Why do women struggle so much w/ understanding that a man of value has options and will act on them?

[Vegasrunner]

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Mz Ash If that were true you wouldn't need to add the qualifier "decent" doing so u create a situation where you can simply disqualify any women who contradicts your theory by claiming they're not "decent" Men who have status, money, resources, didn't spend the time acquiring metrics simply 2 chase one woman around. Acquiring such metrics provides us w/ the ability to not have to tolerate the bs that comes w/ having females. The issue becomes that females r being trained to believe that they of

[HappyWoman34]

I think that SOME men and women have that issue, but not all. I’ve met men and women who fit this description. Likewise, there were men and women who didn’t.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 Lol, why would men be concerned about other men's options?

[HappyWoman34]

Some men are competitive over women. Like some women are competitive over men.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 Now I see your confusion. Even if that were true why would a man struggle w/ understanding that HV men are going to act on their options, if anything wouldn't being competitive validate that men of value have options as we would be taking their women?

[HappyWoman34]

High value? High value men are good people, not the most virile guys.

[Dr_CEI]

@HappyWoman34 I would have to agree i myself am a high value man but I am lacking virility

[HappyWoman34]

@Dr_CEI you see what I mean then. A real man is a man of good character.

[Dr_CEI]

Yes, that's how I was raised. To be a gentleman with honour. But I am lacking in other ways

[HappyWoman34]

@Dr_CEI aren’t we all 😊

[Dr_CEI]

I guess we are!

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 TY for sharing. What is the relevance to the question?

[HappyWoman34]

Tbh I don’t know.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 That makes sense a lot of times when women hear information that is uncomfortable they attempt to deflect. It would be interesting to hear a females POV, but I respect the fact that you at least admit you don't understand.

[HappyWoman34]

I’m not uncomfortable. You asked me the point of your question and I don’t see a point to it.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 That's perfectly understandable, and I appreciate the fact you're willing to admit your ignorance on this subject.

[HappyWoman34]

I’m not ignorant. I just think you’re wrong.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 You said you don't see a point, now you're saying you do?

[HappyWoman34]

No I’m saying I understand your question but I think you’re wrong.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 A question is designed for a answer from the audience, there's no right or wrong component to it. I'm simply waiting for your answer as to why u think a man would be concerned about another man's options. Originally you said you don't know, so I have to take you at your word. TBH it's not that uncommon as most women struggle w/ understanding male POV's so don't feel too bad.

[HappyWoman34]

I feel that the words High Value Man are thrown around too much. What would you define as being a High Value Man?

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 It's understandable that you feel that way, as it is quite possible that you've never been w/ a HV man b4. The definition of HV man is a man recognized as HV by other men of value.

[HappyWoman34]

That’s rubbish then.

[HappyWoman34]

A man regarded as high value to a man is different from a woman’s idea of a high value man. Most women myself included, have plenty of options too, but no need to brag about being High Value. I’d say any man using that term is a dickhead and if he thinks he can do better than me or other women, good riddance. We’ve got one less dickhead to deal with.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 Lol, response is exactly why HV men don't place value on women's definition. Women are typical emotionally and selfishly driven.

[HappyWoman34]

Women are driven to pick a guy based on kindness, intelligence and humour, in my case and most others. If you consider women to be selfishly driven and wanting to be provided for, then what about men refusing to date women who aren’t young and beautiful? Is that not emotionally and socially driven?

[HappyWoman34]

Real high value men do put value on women’s opinions. That’s because if they don’t, they miss out on mating opportunities.

[HappyWoman34]

Assuming that most men aren’t gay here.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 This is a common mistake women make. You may have options for sex but not to retain a man of value. I personally have numerous of women to bang, but I wouldn't necessarily keep all of them. Your opinion of the term isn't relevant as it only matters what other men of value think. Women let their emotions dictate a lot of how they think.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 Lol, Women select men based on competency, resources and ability to provide, along w/ about 50 other metrics. If they didn't a platform like this wouldn't be popular. Why do you think male dating coaches are a multi million dollar industry but female dating coach industry doesn't exsist? Well no deciding not to date a women because she's not attractive is logically driven which proves thar men make logical decisions better than females.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 No, if you're truly a man of HV a females opinion is irrelevant. Think about it logically, if you're competing against me, and other men of value but u need a females help, how can you win? Also women don't understanding mating at all so they can't really help you, a women is going to do what you have done which is share here antedoctal perspective, how will that help men attract a variety of women?

[HappyWoman34]

I’ve made my point. I stand by it and I think you’re wrong.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 Yes, and as you said you don't really understand these concepts at least not at a high level. It's good that at least you're willing to be educated on the subject.

[MzAsh]

Being a man of value is about who you are, how you act, and the respect you show to those around you. Quality over quantity, darling. True value comes from integrity, respect, and the ability to form healthy relationships… not from how many girls you can juggle on a Friday night.
If someone’s definition of “acting options” means hopping from one girl to another like they’ve got a VIP pass to ladies underpants from the club, they’ve seriously missed the plot.

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh That's a female metric. Women are valued by the quality of the man they can keep while men are valued by the amount or women they can attract. I think you mean societies definition as that is the reasons the most successful men I'm the history of the world have also been tied to many women. Regardless my question is why do women struggle w/ this concept. Seeing how you seem to be one that struggles could you please provide some reasons why?

[MzAsh]

Again, it seems we’re flipping through different playbooks here. You’re talking about what impresses other boys in the locker room, while some of us are more about connecting with the class.

Your strategy to rack up numbers isn’t pulling any rabbits out of any hats to the rest of the world. Why do you try so hard to be seem attractive to other boys in the locker room?

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh We could be my statement is grounded in reality and historical evidence while your response seems dictated mostly be emotion. The strategy of challenging a man's maturity whenever hearing information that frustrates you is a standard one and thankfully is on display so often these days that successful men have learned to easily spot and in the case of HV men like myself exploit these insecurities.

[MzAsh]

Saying your view is grounded in reality and historical evidence sounds great to you I’m sure, but let's not pretend we're debating the laws of physics. This is about how we value people and what we admire in them. I could just as easily say your response is dictated by your hormones. It’s a game plan that sounds more like a playbook for a high school drama than a high value man. I’ve watched other people point this out to you as well. Don’t you think it’s time to grow up a little? You’re not 20 anymore. No one in the grown up with is impressed with many many “hot chicks” you can get in bed. That’s child’s play. Let’s see how many women you can get to stand to be with you for a while. 😏

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh Yes, you could "say" that however unfortunately for you, you would be unable to present any tangible evidence to support your claim to an intelligent audience. Whereas I have provided you w/ tons of tangible evidence to support mine. Thats because yours is based on an emotional response to hearing something you disagree w/ which is common in a lot of women your age. You're statement also shows how little u actually understand about male mating dynamics as the majority of HS age men struggle mightly to attract women. (Literally sitting in a gym w/ HS students rn) I understand this because in my profession, I'm around the Alpha, and top 17-24 yro men in the world. In fact turn on any college bball game today and most likely over 80% of the players on the floor are a product of my company, service or direct mentorship. So all the things I address are the things that men are ACTUALLY dealing w/. As you said your , only focus is on women so it's understandable that you would be ignorant of these issues. What I find most fascinating is you're belief that having a women stand w/ you is a metric for HV men, when in fact men that attract a lot of women are provided way more privileges and opportunities then men that can not. This is another example of why it would be considered a mistake for men to take relationship advice from women. TY for sharing this.

[MzAsh]

To say guys who attract lots of women are automatically high value is a pretty narrow view.

You’re deep in a world where, being a chick magnet might seem like it opens a few doors, but only within the jr varsity squad.

Boiling down high value to how many women someone can attract oversimplifies things to a very high school level. And since it seems you mentor high school athletes, the dots are definitely connecting here.

You might not want to accept it, but life is bigger than the sandbox of sports and little gurls you’re playing in. Real value is about who you are at your core.

Appreciate the back and forth, but let’s just say we’re playing in different leagues when it comes to defining what makes someone valuable.

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh That was never said. It's a component of being HV however you choose to frame it the way you did because even you understand this.
Being a "chick magnet" simply comes w/ the territory its odd if you're not in favt I visit sites like GAG to understand why loser guys don't have chocks chasing them.
They should be connecting especially considering you omitted the part about the college and pro athletes which only highlights how women need to create palatable narratives and why HV men don't take them seriously when it comes to important matters.
Sounds like you're struggling to accept it which is why you're forced to change the narrative which is literally something I explain to young men that women will do in an attempt to be deceitful. Many of these young men are multi millionaires and live the type of lives that every man dreams of yet because of your emotions you attempt to pretend that financial, professional and relationship success is juvinelle. Thankful because of mentors like me highlighting your tactics and motives at a young age these men can live much higher quality of life, while you struggle w/ a failed business model. Yes we are absolutely playing in different leagues as you are still in the minors. GL to you

[MzAsh]

No decent woman in her right mind is chasing any man. It’s natural for men to be the ones to pursue a woman. Only recently do we have weak men competing with women for the role of the prize. But in order to be the prize like woman are by nature, a man is going to have to be a hell of a lot more than his looks, credentials, or his sexual prowess. I don’t think such a man has ever existed. Feel free to keep trying though.

[Billlewis]

Yes, but women are still the decision makers, and wield the power to determine whether a guy can be with his dream girl or stay single.

[MzAsh]

Bingo.

[Billlewis]

@MzAsh Thank you very much for the like, ma'am:)

[Vegasrunner]

@Billlewis HV men dont have "dream girl" That's more of a female metric.

[normalice]

They don't struggle with with any such thing.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice So you're saying women understand that HV men will act on their options?

[normalice]

I'm saying the concept of an "hv man" is an MMARRPG stat for a game most people, including most women, don't pay attention to.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That's obviously not true, because the most desired women in the world are all w/ a HV man. Name the super model who's w/ a regular person like you?

[normalice]

I'm saying the term is only something that exists in the redpill alternate reality game. If you weirdos decided to associate it with something you observed after it already occured, that's not grounds to assume they are also playing your ridiculous game.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice "Term"? You believe value is a made up word?

[normalice]

You think "high value man" is the same as "value"? Interesting.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice So value is a real word? You keep going back and forth.

[normalice]

You're not even trying anymore, lol.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice TY for sharing but not sure what you're referring to, are you sure you tagged the correct person?

[normalice]

Ah, there it is. I was wondering why you were speaking unrelated nonsense: in hindsight obviously it was to set yourself up for accusing someone else of speaking unrelated nonsense. That is better trolling, I suppose, but that's like saying you're a more pungent smelling piece of shit than I originally though.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Well hopefully you feel heard, as that's what's important to a lot of women when they talk, however not sure what the relevance of your statements are.

[normalice]

I suppose it makes sense that it would confuse someone with your particular case of brain damage, sure.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I suppose that is considered an intelligent comeback to someone like yourself. I appreciate all your support, and understand that why someone as inexperienced as yourself would hold the view thar you do.

[normalice]

I'm not really attempting a "comeback" so much as trying to help you understand that this isn't a battle. You are brain damaged and I am trying to encourage you to get the help you need. That's all.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Well don't be embarrassed, but looks like this is just another thing you're failing at. TBH have you considered that you may not be mature or experienced enough to hold an adult conversation on these topics?

[normalice]

I know. I'm not exactly trying hard, though, as I haven't the bandwidth to help strangers on the internet with their mental health issues, for free.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That's OK, at least you realize you're lack of effort however that seems like an odd profession. How do you make a living?

[normalice]

It is a civic duty not my profession.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That makes more sense as you do seem more like an amateur in these manners

[normalice]

Well, I my defense, helping people over the internet for free isn't something I'm aware of anyone doing successfully.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That simply highlights another subject you know little about

[normalice]

It is the same subject. Which illustrates what a challenge it is to help repair you.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Yes, women more specifically how to obtain, discard, and replace them, I see no evidence that you understand much about any of these things

[normalice]

No, we're taking about fixing your brain damage. Sigh..

[KrakenAttackin]

Because if you are a "perfect 10 Queen" you can't imagine any man not falling at your feet.