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They want men to fulfill their traditional responsibilities but they don't want to fulfill their responsibilities like cooking and cleaning. And they complain about it
The only time I would expect that "traditional role" to be fulfilled is if I am the only one going out and working while she stays home, otherwise we should share those responsibilities, unless she can't cook. If she can't cook then I will volunteer to handle that every time and since I clean while cooking there won't be any dishes from cooking. We can share the rest of the chores.
Are you expecting them to go out and work and still do all the cooking and cleaning? I don't think she gets paid to be your personal chef and maid. My mom was a single parent and worked 12hr shifts at a hospital. I was a latchkey kid had to take care of myself and my little sister.
Now if she thinks she can spend all day at home and not do anything we ain't gonna be together long without something changing. If I have to work to provide for you, you should be able to do the work necessary to provide for us.
What is a man's traditional role, having a job? Oo, golly, how heroic!
I had a job and took care of myself when I lived alone. I didn't get married to have a live in maid.
My wife works hard. She's always on the go. But I have no problem chipping in with chores and cooking. We help each other out. And when two people pitch in, they both have more time to enjoy life together.
There are certain chores that I take full responsibility for and don't mind doing. There are certain chores that she does exclusively. We both help out with certain things, including cooking, gardening and growing food. It all works out. And it makes her happy that I take some responsibility around the house instead of sitting on my ass and taking her for granted when I'm not at work. But, as I said, it's not like she isn't busy all the time. She takes care of me and I take care of her..
That's not true at all... Some women really love to cook -- I know I do. It's relaxing, creative and the end result is practical and can be shared with friends, etc. etc. There's a nice bit of satisfaction in seeing others enjoy something you make from scratch.
Should it be a woman's lifelong chore? No, probably not. There are a million other things to do. Plus... if you're in a relationship it can be really fun to cook alongside your partner rather than to "serve and obey" which was the "traditional responsibility" of women back in medieval times to ~1950s.
Cleaning should be a joint chore... there's no reason why one person should do all the cleaning while the other just messes up whatever is in sight without consequence or empathy.
Sounds like you're looking for a housekeeper.
They're simply not ready to be wives and want the relationship to be all about them, them and them. Don't let anyone do that to you. Establish your expectations the moment you see potential in a future relationship.
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Those traditional roles use to be applicable when there was much more work to do outside, but these days most people live on a postage sized stamp for a lot in the city and the outdoor work takes like 30 to 50 minutes a week, whereas, cooking and cleaning takes way more time as there are more chores inside. Even less if you live in an apartment...
So it hardly seems fair to sit on your ass while she works everyday cooking and cleaning and quite possibly working a job/career at the same time while us guys spend an hour outside cutting the lawn and trimming the hedges each week.
Besides, learning to cook and clean are valuable lessons for guys to learn too.
It's like some woman said on here just the other day. She said no man is her boss then literally 2 sentences later sys "I believe in gender roles". Of course at this point she's talking about her expectations of him fulfilling his gender roles as a man.😆
Women have been at war with men so long that and COMPROMISE is viewed by her as a concession. And this is the one major failing of feminism. It has taught women not concede ANYTHING. Well you cannot have a partnership without compromise. So it has set her up for failure. Because if she marries a man that she rules she'll probably despise him. But her pride won't allow her to back up off her programming. So one of two things will be destined to happen. She'll either wakeup and realize you can't be at war with the opposite gender and have a happy relationship and she'll abandon her programming. Or she have onre failed relationship after another. Until she despises all men completely.
Yeah as if I’m letting someone cook in my kitchen, it’s okay for you that can’t cook, however some of us actually know how to cook and look after our homes.
in a relationship it’s a mutual muck in and get things done, including cleaning, laundry etc
i do however take the lead on cooking.
They still do that. Where I live probably a majority of families with kids are traditional households. Not everyplace is California. Just move someplace where people have more sense. But even in California it's probably more common than you might think.
Who's chore is it to take out the trash?
Once and for all I would like to know.
I remember being 9 months pregnant and had my husband's clothes to wash as well. We lived in an apartment so I had to take pretty far. He would just watched as I walked by struggling to carry it.
But hey asshole, just as long as YOU don't hurt yourself 😎
Women have had their liberation movement. Men have not.
Men and women both still expect men to abide by traditional gender roles, because it suits women and children. That is all we are valued for. If you’re not producing, protecting and providing for women and children, you’re not a man. That’s where the story ends for us. You can suck it up and be a slave, or you can go your own way and try to find some semblance of dignity and happiness. Those are literally your only options.
I dated plenty of women who preferred traditional roles. Realistically, two incomes is required in the West when starting out so making all the housework one person's responsibility isn't fair. My wife loves to cook and clean when she's stressed but cooking is also my stress release. It's a lot easier to find a traditional woman if you're a traditional man and that means you're the breadwinner
Same reason men don’t want to fulfill their traditional responsibilities as the sole breadwinner, they wanna go 50/50 and be treated like women these days. If you are a traditional man who has traditional values, you should have no problem finding a woman who has traditional values as well. There are still PLENTY of them, if you have a hard time finding them it’s because YOU are not a traditional man.
The same reason lazy men like yourself don't want to do it. Stop whining.
Those aren't a woman's responsibilities, and when I'm dating/serving a woman, I always ask her to let me do all her household chores, laundry, yard work and etc.
Do you want to do these things? Why not? Why do you imagine that women enjoy it any more than you do?
because they became smart enough to figure out that they do not have to do that any more.
Nobody dreams of cooking and cleaning as if they are your personal maid, chef and butler; that's why you traditional men suck and most women can't stand y'all nor desire to be with y'all because you view women to be at your service.
Because we are FREE. I like to tidy up, but I hate cooking!
BOTH should do household obligations irrespective of gender or tradition. That ship has thankfully sailed.
Because times have changed
And for the better
Because women are more than cooking, cleaning and baby-carrying and-bearing machines.
Haven’t heard friends of mine complaining. Why are your female friends complaining?
Tradition is peer pressure from dead people
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