If women want kindness so much, why do nice guys still finish last?

[gasman70]

I'm always told I'm the kindest person someone has ever met. That's the only compliment I really get.

[4ngelic]

Being nice on it's own isn't going to get you a woman. Being a 'bad boy' won't either. Guys who complain about that, that I've seen are often either on the spectrum (which let's be honest, unfortunately isn't very attractive to neurotypical people), they're trying to get girls that are way above their league and don't understand the problem isn't that they're too nice it's that they're not attractive enough for said girls (some people need to understand that except in case of gold digging or weird fetishes, it's hot with hot, average with average, ugly with ugly. Not matter how great of a personality you have, if you're not around someone's looks league, they will never get feelings for you), what they mention as 'kindness' is really just ordinary stuff normally respectful people do for each other and the girls get that same treatment from lots of other people so you're hardly standing out, they barely interract with women and never put themselves out there and expect women to make the first move when it's mainly up to the guy even nowadays, or they don't understand that women typically want feelings to date a guy and just being nice doesn't mean it will spark feelings in a woman.

[Kvass]

There's a difference between being a nice guy and being a doormat. Women want a nice guy with confidence, that's what doormats don't understand

[gasman70]

that's a good one, best response I've seen

[OneViewpoint]

Man, why is this so hard for you?

As everyone else is telling you, women do not some phony "nice guy" telling them whatever you think they want to hear in order to get in their panties. They want a decent guy but a guy who also has some self respect and boundaries he will enforce. For himself and others. Lines he will not cross and lines he will not allow others to cross.

A good man with no self respect is one step above a nice guy but he's still weak.

Women want a good man who demonstrates respect for other people and demands respect for himself. A guy who won't fold like a wet paper bag at the first sign of conflict or adversity. A leader. Not a man to control them or boss them around. A man who demonstrates leadership traits. Apparently you're not there yet buddy.

[scott04sa22]

It's also the same as why do calm guys finishes last.

[scott04sa22]

Thank you for the MHO!

[Anonymous]

If women want nice guys, why do “nice guys” keep finishing last? ↗

[gasman70]

that was the question

[Abbycado]

They don't finish last. This is just your excuse.

[gasman70]

oh, so just dismiss it instead of answering it. I get it. avoidance instead of actually answering, real smoooth, smooth as sandpaper.

[NathanDavis]

I've never been last