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I do feel a lot of pressure is put on us via the opposite gender ! , they women drop hints expect us to be mind readers and make the first moves? Expect us to carry all their shopping , be some kind of Prince Charming , open all new bottles , fix everything around the house , not listen to things like feline music , - this is the 21st century were women are more equal as opposed to females.
Spot on, brother.
Life isn't black and white. It's way more nuanced that people like to think and therefore, it seems like these black and white ways of thinking are more of a cop out that anything.
Know thyself.
Stand up for your convictions.
Express yourself... wisely.
Love your fellow humans - they've all you got!
Men are turning against us because of women like you who spread bullshit. One day men are going to retaliate in a nasty way. I despise women feminists like you. Wake up and realize all this you are saying is because of your past. You still hold that hurt inside you and that is the real toxic stuff that is causing you to write nonsense
Haha what?
Women should leave other peoplease that aren't doing them anything
Thank goodness we have someone from the opposite sex on this post who actually knows what she's talking about. And thats by not acting like you know how a man feels. This pathetic idea of toxic masculinity is something I've only heard about today and never want to hear ever again, as it pretty much is an imaginary idea.
There's no such thing as a real man, just like there's no such thing as a fake woman, oh wait, that's just a barbie doll, a "real man" is just some opinion of a male with traits that they (the woman, or man) prefer. there's a such thing as a man, not a "Real" man. What would make a man fake perhaps?
Valid point. Perhaps I should have left it with the problem of toxic ideas of masculinity instead of going on to describe what I believe a good man is (and should have avoided the use of the word "real"). When I made that decision it was largely because I didn't want to make a take that just pointed out problems without any solutions.
Truth, truth.
The problem is, that no opinion can be truly neutral, be it women talking about men or men talking about women. Since the judgmental entity itself belongs to either side of the spectrum, he/she will look at the picture through their own lenses which are colored up to various degrees. Unless someone with a brain implant free from emotions, chemicals and other biological stuff comes into the picture.
since feminism is self serving and entitled... I don't really give a fuck what they think about masculinity-whatever it is, it's really all about them. Further, there's dripping irony here as naturally men are supposed to listen and conform to feminist ideas of masculinity and the parameters it should follow...
#FeministFAIL
#FeministDoubleStandards
Excellent take & nice to read a woman being actually supportive towards men , instead of the usual man bashing hate fests !! " Societal " conditioning at work , but crap double standards hurt BOTH genders.
I have my own perceptions of masculinity which I use
Good. That's the whole point! Men should define for themselves what it means to be a man.
Exactly I completely agree with you
That was awesome !! I hope these guys can obsorb some of this and relentlessly be inspired from the take
I absolutely disagree 1000%
She tries to suggest it in the most appetizing way but...
enough of the neutering of men.
Society needs men who can take care of business, stand up for their wives and raise their kids even if its' not always the satisfying thing to do.
Enough with the men who sit around in pajamas all day because thats what feels good
lol irony... again: a man will not have that choice to fuck women if he has some of the characteristics you advocate. Nice guys don't get laid. They are well liked, make good sons, maybe husbands etc, but it's not what gets a woman wet.
Yup you're absolutely right, being a nice guy is good socially, but most women get turned on being in a submissive role.
@Prof_Don thanks man, I know right. Welcome to the dating game. And people still give me shit when I advocate prostitutes.
A real man is a man that knows how to treat both men and women with respect and kindness.
Im that kind of guy. Im proud of who I am. Problem is I intimidate other men without even noticing it. It's like I'm not a bro anymore. I have to show huge respect or men just dont want to deal with me.
If "toxic masculinity" exists, then the 'kill all men' and 'male tears' side of feminism, as well as women telling men how to be men is toxic feminity.
It comes down to Intellectuals vs. Neanderthals I think. The former understand everything you wrote while the latter thump their chest and piss on your leg in response.
I think the problem that people tend to have is that the term masculinity, is in there.
Call it something else and I bet a lot more people would listen, just my two sense.
How you term something effects how something is percieved
What else would we call it?
@Sara413
Well stop womansplaining and the toxic feminist propaganda then we could have a fruitful debate. Once you start with a certain political or ideological agenda in the choice of words, you have instantaneously created a lot of opposition, simply based on what is perceived by prior experiences.
Like when Jehovah's Witnesses asks you about something, then you are not really listening because you are already dispositioned against anything they say, not because you have heard before, but simply because you know you do not like there basic ideology or religion.
@Sara413
I honestly couldn't say, men's mental health crisis maybe.
@smølf
A. There is no reason to be nasty to her, and B. I actually agree with a lot of this take as what she says is true that Societal pressure makes men bottle up their emotions and leads to people with mental health problems such as depression not seek treatment for being called unmanly
Thanks bro!
@Waffles731
@Sara413
Nasty to her!!!
I simply mimic what those people who usually say stuff like "Toxic Masculinity", they also use words like mansplaning. I simply reveres it, to show the stupidity in using words like this.
Being politically in opposition is not nasty, is political debate. I didn't get personal at all, I was refiring to how her choice of words WILL effect how the take is percieved.
I didn't say anything about the content being right or wrong, only commented about the choice of words in the headline.
I can assure you I will state my opinions at any time I see fit, but I will not be nasty toward her or anybody else by getting personal. It's about opinions, not persons.
@smølf
She was being perfectly pleasant and you decided to act fairly pleasant
*Fairly unpleasant
Unpleasantries must be expected when choosing words or subjects of highly inflammatory nature.
@smølf
There is a difference between that and going out of your way to be unpleasant
"going out of your way to be unpleasant " it's your view about what I said, I beg to differ.
My opinion is unpleasant perhaps, but I didn't go out of my way to be unpleasant. I was trying to make my point obvious, hence the reversion of those words.
What makes a "real man"? to ME = extreme self awareness + individuality
Ahh thank you Sara, this is a great article also i know there will be some men in their life will come and dictate other men, u don't need to listen to them because ur comfort is what matters but don't take laziness as part of your own masculine traits, laziness is not good for anyone, just be happy with what ur doing, also i disagree with ur dancing point, i don't think men are ashamed to do dancing i've seen more men who interested in dance
This is brilliant. well done. <3 But, err.. I have Autism and ADHD ;-; wtf
So what
a muscle pumped guy is toxic for me.. i hate the view and i think it really hurts their brain.
If it makes a man feel more like a man then why should he shun away from his desires. Honestly you girls think you know us as if you are a man yourself.
@CrazyAK i have no objection to any man who wants to be a pumped iron. But what I am saying is he can't screw me.
I doubt he wants to anyways