I could not read all that, I thought a few of your references were interesting, considering you spoke of Jordan Peterson. I guess everybody can be inappropriate sometimes. And success with ladies could take time and practice for some.
Have to disagree with you on the first part. Women do sometimes call ugly guys who approach them creeps, and more handsome guys sexy. How do I know that? I've seen it myself, with myself. I've been able to come on strong towards many girls without a problem, but less attractive acquaintances of mine have been called creepy.
I take it it is the, "how not to be a creep" section? That still doesn't negate what I said. I've made the very same advancements as less attractive friends of mine, with different outcomes for me and them. What else is that but a judgement by appearance?
Your approach is different than your friend because you're different people. You have different body language and are approaching different girls in different scenarios. If you're saying it was the exact same scenario with the same girl, then you're setting someone up for failure because she is only going to pick one of you
Even more tryhard feminist propaganda. Statistically speaking, 80% of women want 20% of men. The fact of the matter is, as an attractive man, I can get away with all kinds of things with women that if an ugly guy tried it would be called 'sexual assault.
So yes, creepy is only if you express interest and she isn't interested... just like rape is when you have consent... but don't call her back.
Well I'm a Republican, so no trace of Feminist propaganda here
If your commit sexual assault, you are a sex offender, no matter how attractive you are. If you're attractive, then it's even worse because you're stooping that low even though you have other options
@Kas19 I don't think you can be. The ideologies are opposing. You can't be a Republican and a Feminist because Republicans believe fetuses have the right to live and Feminists support abortion. That's a vastly opposite ideology
That's why I've long been a fan of the belief that a man's social ability or his social skills or conversation skills have a much bigger impact on his dating success more than the other way around
They definitely do. And even when it is supposedly based on behavior, looks still factor into the equation. How a person looks has a huge impact on how they are perceived which means what might be perceived as acceptable for an attractive guy to do or say would be labeled as creepy if an average or unnatractive guy were to do/say.
I really don't think that's true. I mean sure if you're talking about extreme behavior then its probably creepy regardless of how the guy looks, but when it comes to more subtle stuff unnatractive guys are a lot more likely to be considered creepy compared to attractive guys.
Whether or not an unattractive guy is more likely to be called a creep is not the same as saying girls call guys creeps for being ugly. If he is unattractive approaching girls above his league, then he falls into one of the categories I outlined. He is not being called a creep based on attractiveness alone, so to say he's being called a creep for being ugly is incorrect. And even hot guys can be creeps
In Boston, you just have to be an only child with sutism and mental illness to be considered a creep. They are EXTREMELY ableist and a bunch of bullies here. And also, it totally IS about looks, in Boston, anyway.
Women call too many things creepy these days. For example, approaching a girl (while giving her space) is seen as creepy if they don't like you. I fortunately never really been called creepy but yea.
I dont agree with ur ugly thing, 90% of the time girls call someone a creep is bc he is ugly. I know lots of girls who have literally agreed if a guy hadn't been ugly they wouldn't think he was creepy
Calling a guy a creep for something he's not even aware is creepy just because a girl feels that way, is like calling a girl a slut for her fashion or the number of guys she is just friends with.
Now he's aware he's being creepy because he understands that his negative view towards women is his main fault, and that he needs to respect women if he doesn't want to be called a creep
I didn't read the whole take, but I feel like most guys respect women. This just seems like common sense. A guy also doesn't have to have a negative view towards women either to be seen as a creep. It often may not strike a man how women can be really mean until they're really mean to him. And this often happens in traumatic fashion for him, at a time when he put women or a particular woman on a pedastol, giving her plenty respect, openness, honesty, positivity and benefit of the doubt. Leaving out things like romance, love and attraction, the man has felt like nothing he gave was reciprocated out of decency. And that is certainly hurtful.
Nobody owes you a relationship. His feeling will not always be reciprocated. What is creepy is he doesn't respect women enough to realize that and to move on
Well again I think men understand that, or at least it seems obvious that no one is entitled to another person's romance or friendship. That's why in my comment I put "Leaving out romance, love and attraction".
I refer to when a woman is quite rude and is carelessly using "creep" to describe the someone who innocently likes her. I refer to the person that doesn't reciprocate hardly any respect and courtesy demonstrated to her, as if she is entitled to that without ever giving any. If takes respect to get it as the saying goes, then why not ask what women are doing to respect men?
"Creep" much like "slut" is a potent, socially damning word and I don't fully buy that recklessly or over villifying people helps us understand each other better. It often seems like it's not even a passing thought to women, the vulnerable position men find themselves in when it comes to the dating world, let alone that they should think deeply about it with empathy.
And if we trivialize the feelings of men, isn't that creeping into the territory of objectification? If we're going to talk about "creeps" or "detestable people", could a person who objectifies others particularly based on sex, gender or race etc., worthy of being described as detestable?
"Innocent feelings" are fine as long as you don't act on them in a way that makes a girl feel uncomfortable. There is nothing wrong with having feelings for a girl. But if you do ask a girl out and she rejects you, hanging onto those feelings is bad. At that point, you have to move on. If you can't move on and then start stalking her or pushing for her affection, that's when you become creepy. So I get where you're coming from, but there is a big difference between "innocent feelings " and "creepy"
No. You speak from self-pity. I speak from experience. You are not a woman, so you have no experience calling a guy a creep or being creeped out. Continuing to assume that you know what women think is why you get called a creep. You have to respect women if you want us to feel comfortable around you, but that will never happen
Experiencing it, seeing it, reading it, and hearing it is enough to know it's not true. Experiencing it as a female is enough to know that women do not call guys creeps just for being ugly. We call guys ugly if they're uglu
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I could not read all that, I thought a few of your references were interesting, considering you spoke of Jordan Peterson. I guess everybody can be inappropriate sometimes. And success with ladies could take time and practice for some.
This is a good article, but common use of this term, "creepy" is offensive as women are won't to do and be.
"If someone called you a creep, chances are you deserved it"
Lol Thanks for the laugh.
Have a nice day.
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You're welcome. My day has been very pleasant
Have to disagree with you on the first part. Women do sometimes call ugly guys who approach them creeps, and more handsome guys sexy.
How do I know that? I've seen it myself, with myself. I've been able to come on strong towards many girls without a problem, but less attractive acquaintances of mine have been called creepy.
If you read MyTake, you'll see where I addressed that issue
I did read it, that's why I wrote what I wrote?
Then you should've also read where I addressed the issue
I take it it is the, "how not to be a creep" section? That still doesn't negate what I said. I've made the very same advancements as less attractive friends of mine, with different outcomes for me and them. What else is that but a judgement by appearance?
Your appearance is more than just your objective attractiveness. They way you approach is more important
Yeah, but that's exactly what I said. Same approach for me and my less attractive friends, different outcomes.
Your approach is different than your friend because you're different people. You have different body language and are approaching different girls in different scenarios. If you're saying it was the exact same scenario with the same girl, then you're setting someone up for failure because she is only going to pick one of you
"Women do not call guys creeps for being ugly"
They do
Indeed, they do. And it's wrong.
@Thatsamazing I agree
Yeah... they don't! I actually, a long with MANY other men, know how to not act like a love sick virgin with societal issues.
Even more tryhard feminist propaganda. Statistically speaking, 80% of women want 20% of men. The fact of the matter is, as an attractive man, I can get away with all kinds of things with women that if an ugly guy tried it would be called 'sexual assault.
So yes, creepy is only if you express interest and she isn't interested... just like rape is when you have consent... but don't call her back.
Well I'm a Republican, so no trace of Feminist propaganda here
If your commit sexual assault, you are a sex offender, no matter how attractive you are. If you're attractive, then it's even worse because you're stooping that low even though you have other options
Just wanted to add, you can be a Republican and a feminist.
@Kas19
No you can't. They're different political parties
Feminism isn't a political party.
@Kas19
Feminism is a political movement I want no part of. Feminists are indecent baby killers who want to sleep around and make women look bad
So no I can't be a part of that party if I'm a Republican
Yikes, you sound like a pick me.
@Kas19
I don't sound like anything. You went around trying to imply I'm a feminist, so I explained to you why I'm not one. I didn't bring it up
I never called you a feminist. I said you can be a Republican and a feminist. Not saying you want to, I'm saying it is possible in general.
@Kas19
I don't think you can be. The ideologies are opposing. You can't be a Republican and a Feminist because Republicans believe fetuses have the right to live and Feminists support abortion. That's a vastly opposite ideology
That's why I've long been a fan of the belief that a man's social ability or his social skills or conversation skills have a much bigger impact on his dating success more than the other way around
"Women do not call guys creeps for being ugly"
They definitely do.
And even when it is supposedly based on behavior, looks still factor into the equation. How a person looks has a huge impact on how they are perceived which means what might be perceived as acceptable for an attractive guy to do or say would be labeled as creepy if an average or unnatractive guy were to do/say.
No looks don't matter. Creepy behavior is creep whether a guy is attractive or not
I really don't think that's true. I mean sure if you're talking about extreme behavior then its probably creepy regardless of how the guy looks, but when it comes to more subtle stuff unnatractive guys are a lot more likely to be considered creepy compared to attractive guys.
Whether or not an unattractive guy is more likely to be called a creep is not the same as saying girls call guys creeps for being ugly. If he is unattractive approaching girls above his league, then he falls into one of the categories I outlined. He is not being called a creep based on attractiveness alone, so to say he's being called a creep for being ugly is incorrect. And even hot guys can be creeps
In Boston, you just have to be an only child with sutism and mental illness to be considered a creep. They are EXTREMELY ableist and a bunch of bullies here. And also, it totally IS about looks, in Boston, anyway.
Women call me a creep because I run up to every table and say "Hello, my name is Ninooo!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0kk3nHCSUkI've never been called creepy. Then again I've never been called anything by a girl, guess I'm just unremarkable. A gay guy once told me I'm sexy tho.
Well, you've got a backup option there, dude...
I guess if I GAF what others thought this stuff would bother me.
Women call too many things creepy these days. For example, approaching a girl (while giving her space) is seen as creepy if they don't like you. I fortunately never really been called creepy but yea.
I dont agree with ur ugly thing, 90% of the time girls call someone a creep is bc he is ugly. I know lots of girls who have literally agreed if a guy hadn't been ugly they wouldn't think he was creepy
Women who call guys creepy Are creepy themselves and have creepy issues brain dead number 1
Calling a guy a creep for something he's not even aware is creepy just because a girl feels that way, is like calling a girl a slut for her fashion or the number of guys she is just friends with.
Well-said.
Now he's aware he's being creepy because he understands that his negative view towards women is his main fault, and that he needs to respect women if he doesn't want to be called a creep
I didn't read the whole take, but I feel like most guys respect women. This just seems like common sense. A guy also doesn't have to have a negative view towards women either to be seen as a creep. It often may not strike a man how women can be really mean until they're really mean to him. And this often happens in traumatic fashion for him, at a time when he put women or a particular woman on a pedastol, giving her plenty respect, openness, honesty, positivity and benefit of the doubt. Leaving out things like romance, love and attraction, the man has felt like nothing he gave was reciprocated out of decency. And that is certainly hurtful.
@Thatsamazing Thanks
oh, **pedestal** pardon
Nobody owes you a relationship. His feeling will not always be reciprocated. What is creepy is he doesn't respect women enough to realize that and to move on
Well again I think men understand that, or at least it seems obvious that no one is entitled to another person's romance or friendship. That's why in my comment I put "Leaving out romance, love and attraction".
I refer to when a woman is quite rude and is carelessly using "creep" to describe the someone who innocently likes her. I refer to the person that doesn't reciprocate hardly any respect and courtesy demonstrated to her, as if she is entitled to that without ever giving any. If takes respect to get it as the saying goes, then why not ask what women are doing to respect men?
"Creep" much like "slut" is a potent, socially damning word and I don't fully buy that recklessly or over villifying people helps us understand each other better. It often seems like it's not even a passing thought to women, the vulnerable position men find themselves in when it comes to the dating world, let alone that they should think deeply about it with empathy.
And if we trivialize the feelings of men, isn't that creeping into the territory of objectification? If we're going to talk about "creeps" or "detestable people", could a person who objectifies others particularly based on sex, gender or race etc., worthy of being described as detestable?
@Idonthaveausername also thanks for your thought
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"Innocent feelings" are fine as long as you don't act on them in a way that makes a girl feel uncomfortable. There is nothing wrong with having feelings for a girl. But if you do ask a girl out and she rejects you, hanging onto those feelings is bad. At that point, you have to move on. If you can't move on and then start stalking her or pushing for her affection, that's when you become creepy. So I get where you're coming from, but there is a big difference between "innocent feelings " and "creepy"
If the person is menacing and over-aggressive, stalking and threatening etc., I certainly would call that creepy.
"as long as you don't act on them in a way that makes a girl feel uncomfortable"
Ultimately I agree but I don't agree with that wording. There isn't any nuance there.
In one of the pictures: "Write a letter to yourself." That's creepy. 😂😂😂
Soooo... trade in the panel van? 😂
My family had an astro van growing up lol. So he'll yeah because they're creepy
From a woman's point of a view, a "Creep" is an unattractive guy. That's it.
Wrong. Please ready MyTake before commenting. Any literate person will be able to read where I addressed this issue
I did read it. I'm just telling you the truth.
I told you the truth. You are wrong. You are not a woman, so you can't determine what women think
I speak from experience.
No. You speak from self-pity. I speak from experience. You are not a woman, so you have no experience calling a guy a creep or being creeped out. Continuing to assume that you know what women think is why you get called a creep. You have to respect women if you want us to feel comfortable around you, but that will never happen
Experiencing it, seeing it, reading it, and hearing it is enough to know it's true.
Experiencing it, seeing it, reading it, and hearing it is enough to know it's not true. Experiencing it as a female is enough to know that women do not call guys creeps just for being ugly. We call guys ugly if they're uglu
Creep and ugly are correlated from a woman's point of view.
Not at all. They are completely different words. They're the same from a Male's point of view
Fucking MAGGOT bitch assumes those who don't agree are "illiterate". Enjoy the impeachment! And enjoy being blocked.