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It's legal to take a picture of someone in public, even without their permission, but that doesn't make what they did ethical.
Sometimes I want to take a pic of someone. Maybe I like their shirt and want to search Amazon for it later, or I think a candid pic of them should be on facebook with some words of support. Maybe they're the next Sad Keanu.
But I always asked for permission before if I could, and always asked permission after if I couldn't ask before. If they wanted a copy, they got a copy. And if they ask me to delete it, even ten years later, I delete it. I don't own anyone's appearance other than my own.
Even if what he did is legal, I would still support you if you ripped the phone from his hands and smashed it to dust. I don't believe anyone should have the right to take photos of someone else without their permission if they're the subject of that picture.
EXAMPLE: I was once in line at an amusement park line with some friends, and took photos of them. I noticed some girls behind them, and made a motion indicating that I'd like to take a pic of them. They shook their heads as a no, I gave them a thumbs-up and a smile, and I moved on. When I got home, I cropped them out of my other photos as best I could, blurring them when I couldn't.
He was wrong for taking your picture and should of been man enough to delete it
what he did actually was violated your privacy also with his inappropriate comments
he was harassing you too. So yes he was wrong and you know if you took his pic
and went to the police they might look into the guy but he sounds like a creep for sure
but what happens if was taking pics that were really deemed as totally wrong such
as up a females skirt, dress, her crotch, breast yes there is sickos out there like that
who do that kind of stuff ,
:/ Unfortunately there's really nothing you can do about that except... boldly take a picture of him right back and let him know it will be posted all over social media warning other females if they see him. Respecting privacy and being courteous of others is a two way street. It's much worse for a guy's face to be plastered all over social media with warnings attached to it than whatever he had planned for your picture. :)
I should've done that!
All I can thing to do is embarrass him if he ever does it again. Just talk really loud and be like "Did you just take my picture? I didn't give you permission. You cannot use my picture." And then take pictures of him and post them on FB and twitter, to the train's line's FB and twitter, to your police department's FB and twitter, and the local news station's FB and twitter.
I was just so upset, I should've thought of all this.
It's okay. I would be shocked as well!
I would have been pissed too, why are people telling you calm down, they were rude as fuck and I don't blame you for being mad.
The people on here are fucking nuts.
It's hard to believe that people could be this dumb.
I actually remember reading that. Poor girl.
Yeah you're one of the coolest users on here. You're not afraid to stand up for what's right.
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what is the purpose of men on this planet... like seriously what is wrong with them
and the replies from dudes... WHAT?
I know!!! Such fucking piss offs.
Creeeepyy!!! It's morally wrong what he did, but technically it isn't illegal as long as he doesn't distribute the pic or makes money from it. You can't do much about it... sorry for that
I'm really upset
I understand, what he did wasn't cool, but honestly there's nothing you can do, if you call the cops they won't be able to do anything. You're being recorded every time you go out in the streets by CCTV though.
That's really not the same
@Asker It actually IS the same. Whether you know it or not, nearly every public place has cameras.
Plus, think about people who take photos with people in the background. Even though they didn't INTEND to get the people in the background, you may still be in someone's family or group photo (in the background.)
Now if he posts it on the internet OR profits for him, THAT is wrong.
There was a girl on gag.. she told she always takes pics of people when they are not looking.. and then she posted them on gag to ask how they are. I was so mad at her. I tried to explain it to her that this is wrong.. but she was just so stupid.. a girl once beat the shit out of her.. and she still was not going to stop.. so these people are so annoying and fucked up.. but unfortunately we cannot do anything..
People are fucking crazy
I take pictures in public places all the time. I have been accused of taking pics of people when I was not. Strangely, it has only been men. I was not taking pics of those individuals. The fact that he denied that he was taking pics at all when he clearly was makes me think he probably was taking pics of you. However how could you prove it?
I don't need to prove it. I know he was taking pics of me.
They were sitting on the train directly across me. They were all looking at me the whole time and at one point he pulls out his phone and holds it in my direction and snaps a pic.
Ever heard of common sense?
"The fact that he denied that he was taking pics at all when he clearly was makes me think he probably was taking pics of you. "
I agree, he probably was taking your pic. Didn't you read that? However, you don't KNOW he was. And I have had people be completely convinced I was taking their picture when I was not.
I get that you're creeped out and angry about it and I understand it. Until you actually see the picture, you do not know with 100% certainty, just like the men who accused me didn't know with 100% certainty that I took their picture (and in their case, they were dead wrong). However, so many people are advising you that you should have pepper sprayed him, should have smashed his phone, should have publically humiliated him. I advise caution in doing that. Taking pics in public is, for the most part, perfectly legal (and for a myriad of reasons, it should be). Smashing property isn't. Assault isn't. Slander isn't.
I dont understand you girls...
Its creepy and rude if someone does it! The gender doesn't matter its simply rude and creepy to take photos of people without their permission. Just calm down now and the next time someone takes a pic of you, take their phone and delete the pic or take a pic of HIM. Show them how it feels like to be creeped out. They deserve it especially if theyre planning to post it online. by the way what is wrong with you? You think that everything that a guy says is wrong but girls say the truth?
Where did I say that? What?
Lol sorry not you, some random girls.
I have had this happen to me before! I was at a WWII memorial of all places and there was this guy with his friend and they were talking to each other then they started chatting me up and then one was like "you dropped your quarter" (i did) and like an idiot i bent down to pick it up and td the other guy snapped a pic.
I was just like "real nice" and rolled my eyes and left, gotta let that shit go. Fuck them
People period are photographed/video without their permission. Im quite sure these guy didn't want the whole world to think they are huge manwhores. XD
www.google.com/.../watch%3Fv%3D5JJFBtHcBnM&ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwjr4ciPx7vHAhXMPD4KHUr2BB0&usg=AFQjCNHeUNQhR1WI-XgJXAlfOS4LZVl-7w
If you live in the states, what he did is sadly legal, unless that train service is considered a private entity. If you live outside the states, I would check for the legality there. In many countries where it's illegal, some people also do it, because nobody with authority taught them it's illegal.
Okay, gonna use the word I'm always telling others not to use: That is really creepy. What an asshole.
I'm really proud of you T-T
@BellePepper: Lol
Welcome to the 21st century. Everyone has camera phones. You've been photographed more times than you know. Especially if you're attractive.
Its pathetic
Roflmal xD
Ok what's your point?
Haha adding the Blue Danube Waltz by Strauss to this video was genius
Kinda see my point? Dont br daft Miss. ;p
@QuestionMan
Yeah it was pretty damn hilarious and anon's topic was perfect for this video xD
Cool story. Read mine now. In the train I was sitting there was a 50 some years old woman sitting on the other side of the coache's corridor looking at me all the time. All of a sudden she takes a pic of me. A fucking close up. Then she stands up and goes to the driver and says that Im threatening her life. I was like WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
omg, that's just rude
Then don't go into public spaces... You picture is taken by hundreds of cameras every day in stores, at stop lights, in university classrooms, at your work place, etc.
Okay it's not the same thing...
Of course it is. I can't say I like it either but the reality is, when you walk out the door every day people are watching you and they have the right to film you.
Pepper spray him and steal his phone. He's an A+ asshole.
I wish I had spray with me
Seriously don't tolerate that BS. Take his picture back, and report him. Make a scene and let people around you know he's harassing you.
Do not let him get away with being a shithead. I feel sorry for the guys who are downvoting and disagreeing... I imagine they also enjoy harassing women with nonsense like this.
You can actually call the police on something like that and follow him. You want results? Pull every card! Follow them off, tell them your calling the cops and if there is a picture then they will be arrested.
That's just SICK 25.media.tumblr.com/.../...7wEoGk1qcwyxho1_500.gif
Well that guy was a jerk but you can't really do anything about it.
If it was me I'd smash their phones.
It's really frustrating. Why isn't that illegal?
That's realy insane
Neither of us KNOWS that he was taking a picture of the girl, since neither of us were there. We have only her word. By the way, I believe she believes what she's saying. But how do you know he was taking a picture of her? How do you know she was center frame unless you saw the picture yourself? And if she is wrong (and being only human, she might be), would you be OK with smashing people's property if she was not the focus of the picture, but just happened to be in the frame?
I'd be willing to bet you've taken pictures in public. Would you be OK if someone you happen to catch in the frame of the pic walk up to you and destroy your phone because you didn't have her permission? Is it OK for people in the background of any picture you've taken in public to walk up to you and destroy your phone?
Would you be OK if a police officer smashed the phone of someone who was filming him commit an illegal act?
Suppose the asker follows your advice and smashes the phone of the next man/woman...
... she sees taking a picture which she just happens to be in. And suppose that person is armed and will defend his/her property and personal space. And suppose that person seriously injures the asker who attempted to smash the phone even though it's perfectly legal to take pictures in a public place. Are you going to be OK with the asker being in the hospital for attempting to invade someone's person space and destroy property (which it is almost always legal to defend with violent force)?
You're 47, maybe you just don't understand how teenage/college guys act? I am absolutely certain it was a pic of me. Why would he refuse to show me the pic he took if it wasn't?
My situation was even worse. One summer day two old creepy men were taking pics of me sucking a popsicle.
I know the feel, it's creepy af.
Did you say anything to them? What the fuck
I didn't... I was soooo creeped out, when I noticed I gave them a death stare and ran away basically
that's really creepy. were they really old?
@VampireEmpress yeah, like legit old... at least 50
oh my god.
He's probably going to edit your pic to feature some random and deep quote completely irrelevant to the picture and post it on Tumblr to gain 100k+ notes.
That should be illegal.
Yeah! he should get your permission before becoming tumblr famous.
Taking pictures of people without their consent is illgeal. A cop told me that before. But if a cop isn't right there then eh sorry that happened.
He probably won't do anything with it though. Not much you can do with that kind of picture.
Furthermore, if it's illegal without consent, how is it that the Rodney King beating vid wasn't tossed out of court? How is it that the NUMEROUS police brutality videos aren't tossed out of court? How is it that bank cameras' footage are admissible in courts even when they are used as evidence for crimes which were not committed on the bank's property? How is it that ANY vid or pic taken by a private individual is not tossed out of court immediately as evidence on the grounds that it is illegally acquired evidence?
Well, the reality of it is in order for it to be illegal, you would have to ban virtually ALL public photography. Have you ever taken pictures in public? If so (and I'm willing to bet you have), then I'm pretty sure you probably have a few people in the background of at least some of your pictures. If you want to make it illegal to take people's pics without their consent, you'd have to get the consent of every single human being in the frame of every single picture you have. It would then be illegal for reporters to show up and take pictures of events. All those pics of 9-11 of firefighters, police, and ordinary citizens would be illegal. Right now, I'm looking at pictures my friend took of me and her kids at the Getty museum. There are literally dozens of people in the frames of dozens of pictures for whom my friend didn't get the consent of.
I get the creep factor, I do. However, I'd rather live in a free society where people are permitted to take pics in public...
@Bluemax and yeah the two cops I encountered told me that after I had a spat with two rude neighbours. I told them I was taking a picture of what she had done on my lawn and they said it wasn't legal to take a picture of her. One of those same cops ended up on the news for stealing evidence and he bothered other people
I think you could have asked for security to come to the next stop, maybe there is a help button someone on the train?
There isn't any.
You may not like it, and that is rather strange and creepy... but he did nothing illegal.
You deserved the spazzing he gave you, though. As the saying goes, "you can't control what people do, but you can control how you react".
From a legal point, he did nothing wrong, so you have no case. You should have just left it alone.
No she would have a case. She didn't consent to her picture being taken. I assume they are just random morons. Even if they didn't take the picture they should of shown the proof that they didn't. If they put her up on fb and such she can actually take action, but I don't think that would happen because they seem to be the type to aggravate anyone but not take it further because they are scared to get in trouble.
This is the stupidest fucking answer on this thread. And there are a lot of stupid answers here.
Don't sweat it girlslie, he's prob one of those people who tells a rape victim not to dress a certain way because then she's 'asking for it'.
Video tape him with your phone and show that as proof to authorities when you get hold of his name and where he lieves.
Girls sometimes take a pic of a random male stranger too thats just life
Exactly lol
Because your comment hd NOTHING to do with my question. You just wanted to start a gender war.
I wtore on the train. Do you know how to read?
That's not "just life" that's sexual harassment. It's horrible to invade another person's privacy like that without their permission. It's perverted and rude. That's why you have 14 downvotes :|
@BellePepper lol and I bet you were one of the ones who down voted me :P lol it is rude but its not illegal getting upset over it is not gonna help her the worst that guy could do is like go on a dating website and cat fish using her photo and make creep comments.
You're right I did downvote you. Just because the law hasn't caught up with technology doesn't mean that it's okay to do. It's scummy to do and it's scummy to make excuses for it.
@BellePepper they do know about it they just don't do anything cause not enough people care about it or complain about it
So how does it feel to contribute to making women feel unsafe just for daring to use public transport?
@BellePepper since when did I say I did it? I am just saying there is not much you can do about it the government takes pics of people on a day to day basis and they even hide things from us life area 51. You don't have to do something to accept it.
You said since there are no laws there's no problem but say there's no problem because there are no laws. That's ridiculous and that sort of thinking is exactly why there aren't laws against this sort of behavior. Just because you haven't had this problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
@BellePepper and I never said there are no laws either.
"they do know about it they just don't do anything cause not enough people care about it or complain about it"
Yeah I was talking about the government and that doesn't mean there is no government lol
@BellePepper if not enough people complain about something the government won't do anything about it that's why taking photos of people in public is legal.
I cannot with your not logic anymore.
This girl went through a horrible invasion of privacy and personal boundaries. It's not a joke. Are you the type of person that likes to "joke around" about rape too?
I have had people take pics of me in public her going to the cops and complaining would be even worse for her because the cops would tell her that that is not illegal and if she kept telling the cops to do something about it eventually it would get on their nerves and they could arrest her for not leaving the cops alone. @BellePepper
If someone is harassing you and taking your picture without your permission, that is wrong and you absolutely should call them on it.
It is but trying to contact the authorities would do no good so there is no point in being upset over something you can't control @BellePepper plus its not all that bad I mean certain things in public are illegal like say someone can't record a personal conversation in public or any of their personal information
I'm not going into this with you again.
That's illegal and next time someone does that to you, tell them you're sending them to jail! It will scare them really good.
I don't think it is illegal tho
... Maybe where you live.
Hey dont feel too bad its something that both guys and girls do when they see someone attractive.
So what are you hoping for us to say? I am sympathetic that you are upset, but unfortunately there aren't any options available to you other than to let the anger pass and get over the situation.
I actually didn't know it was legal till I asked this.
impolite, i suppose, but legal. scotus has ruled you have no expectation of privacy in public places, so unless he uses that, say, in publication or such... legal.
some phones come with a feature that its backlight blinks for notification of messages, mails etc. maybe he received a message or something and you thought he is taking picture. it may be a misunderstanding. so try to forget the incident.
it should be compliment. you are hot.
most girl ugly don't ever get picture from stranger.
guys do it all time and i like candid booty videos.
Unfortunately, there is nothing illegal about taking pictures in a public space, as there is no expectation of privacy there.
You can ask them to erase the picture but they don't have to.
I did ask them
And he refused, because he is under no obligation to erase it.
There's nothing you can do here except get over it, no laws have been broken.
Can't handle the truth eh?
I can see why they wanted a picture of such a charming, delicate flower as yourself.
Nah I know the truth. But you and every other guy on here has shit advice.
He is such an asshole.. But don't worry.. Life is boomerang :D
Yeah, it's highly inappropriate, what else do you expect us to tell you?
I was hoping it's illegal.
Unfortunately that is legal, as humilliating as it is.
Maybe if you whine and complain some more it'll make every miniscule problem go away.
K daddy
You are welcome my daughter.
I didn't say thank you
You are grounded for talking back to your dad.
Yeah I'd just sneak out.
You are really gonna get it once I tell your mother about this.
My mother wouldn't care
That's a lie. Your mother is gonna rip you a new one.
Rip me a new one
?******
Ugh what a douchebag... You could have gone to the police but yeah you had no proof.
I've seen facebook posts of women taking pics of men and those commenting never seem to complain about it being creepy or invasive =/
Don't make this a fucking gender war. Goodbye.
Take his picture and send it to the police.
You should have killed him...
Its really pathetic that people actually do this.
He did nothing illegal
Okay. Thanks for telling the obvious.
So, essentially this is just you complaining about morals, not legalitys, typical woman
I was actually wondering if it was illegal, not that I know it's not, I'm just pissed.
'Typical woman'- ugh seriously fuck off.
Just sayin'
Sorry bout that :/ next time steal his phone
It's not the end of the world.
Did I say it was? Wtf
Can you just go away
No my attitude is fine. I just hate stupid comments like these that are absolutely unhelpful.
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