Depends on where you are at. I would say if you are under average intelligence or you are under average in your career then yeah. But if you are above average it's not really an issue. Men take two roads with the career. You should be able to live on your own but they they care about if you make more than them or not, and those who think you should be able to live on your own but they want to beable to replace your need to work so you can focus on the house and kids.
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Intelligent is fine. That’s not the same as successful. The reason success often becomes a problem is primarily the result of women feeling “dissatisfied” with a guy who earns less or who they see as less.
As a general rule women want a guy they can “look up” to. That causes problems when he’s not as successful. The difference becomes exponentially greater the more she earns.
Since guys don’t have that quirk it’s not really a problem for them.
In my opinion, its stupid to care, if u like someone, go for it, whether there smarter, dumber, more or less successful than u, it doesn't matter. It doesn't change whether u find them attractive or not. (By looks and personality
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For many of us, intellectual compatibility is critical. I could never do without it.
Ideally you would want to match with someone who can keep you mentally engaged and challenged. In terms of the emasculating it's an older form of think through socialism, but times change. If we are being honest it should emasculate since society is pushing for equality
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My guy is similar to me in intelligence. I could not be with anyone vastly different, as communication would be difficult.
Lol... most intelligent men want a woman who’s also as intelligent as they are. If they want a dumb woman, he’s not only dumb himself but also extremely insecure.
Depends on the person's intentions. A guy I knew wanted to date girls who didn't have a degree they could be dependent on him. So he does it and he proposes to her, but she doesn't have a job or degree and tells him what to do. It's ironic.
I dont care if she's smarter or makes more money, all I care about is will we get along and be compatible and at least be able to compromise on disagreements.
Cringe at those terms? Okay. But humans nature dictates only one leader of a group.
Let me ask this. Does this intelligent woman want a guy who’s focused on his own career and goals? A guy who knows how to get what he wants and expects people to do what he wants. A leader and doer? Well if she does she better expect to compromise to his wishes and to see him only when he has time.
If I could find a woman who could keep up with me mentally I'd have a mental boner for her non-stop. Even better if she's smarter.
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I feel the same way about men, oy. I haven't given up though. Still, it's a challenge, as straight men seem less into in-depth discussions and debates. I met this guy recently who would be exhausted after talking to me and asked why I liked having these discussions. He thought "intellectual discussions" without practical use in your life right now amounted to "mental masturbation."
Being compatible isn't automatically linked to IQ, success or ambition. That really is a lame reason for dating OR rejecting someone.
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I disagree. Intellectual compatibility is extremely important to me. I dont think I could have the quality of relationship I want without it, and I've noticed that communication and building connection is also very difficult without it.
Well the cultural/historical context that men have designed encourages men to date down in terms of intelligence and definitely in terms of successful men. All of the media, ads, literature, messages from decades past show that men have always liked a women less successful. Men fought against women having any rights really. Anyway, A lot of men straight out or eventually reluctantly confess they dont like when they feel the girl is smarter or more successful. There's a lot of "women should hide their intelligence, no need to shove it in your faces" that implies an emotional reaction to this kind of woman. Even on the same level might be an issue, if he feels like there is competition. There was that one study that showed men only liked intelligent women in theory. In reality, it was another story. So my point is maybe "dating down" isn't all womens fault - maybe it has a lot to do with how men feel about themselves.
So I dont think anyone is saying anyone "has" to do anything... that wasn't my question. My question was about whether or not its a good idea for very intelligent and/or successful women to date men who are less intelligent/successful, even if they were open to it, if there are they will encounter this with men.
I'll tell you this I they don't speak for me. I don't want a glorified yes man, I want a partner and friend... hopefully one as perverted as I am. Look the point is it's not strong intelligent women you need to watch out for, it's the weak weasel ones. At least a strong woman is gonna be honest with you.
What happened to this thing about having good genetics passed on? And what is smart? Remembering stuff? Thinking of new ideas? How do you know the person you think is smart is actually smart?
The attitude women have when they're successful is usually unattractive. I've dated a very smart dentist, and she wasn't full of herself.
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Yeah, a lot of men feel this way. It's interesting, I'll say that. But that's what I'm getting at - they dont seem interested in or compatible with many women in these groups. s
Nah, the job or intelligence isn't threatening. There's a very low chance she's more intelligent at everything than me. Most people stick within their range of intelligence. You don't see people with PhD's dating fast food workers.
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Depends on where you are at. I would say if you are under average intelligence or you are under average in your career then yeah. But if you are above average it's not really an issue. Men take two roads with the career. You should be able to live on your own but they they care about if you make more than them or not, and those who think you should be able to live on your own but they want to beable to replace your need to work so you can focus on the house and kids.
Intelligent is fine. That’s not the same as successful. The reason success often becomes a problem is primarily the result of women feeling “dissatisfied” with a guy who earns less or who they see as less.
As a general rule women want a guy they can “look up” to. That causes problems when he’s not as successful. The difference becomes exponentially greater the more she earns.
Since guys don’t have that quirk it’s not really a problem for them.
In my opinion, its stupid to care, if u like someone, go for it, whether there smarter, dumber, more or less successful than u, it doesn't matter. It doesn't change whether u find them attractive or not. (By looks and personality
For many of us, intellectual compatibility is critical. I could never do without it.
Ideally you would want to match with someone who can keep you mentally engaged and challenged.
In terms of the emasculating it's an older form of think through socialism, but times change. If we are being honest it should emasculate since society is pushing for equality
My guy is similar to me in intelligence. I could not be with anyone vastly different, as communication would be difficult.
Lol... most intelligent men want a woman who’s also as intelligent as they are. If they want a dumb woman, he’s not only dumb himself but also extremely insecure.
I think dating lower intelligence is a bad idea especially if the gap is huge but not lower ambition or success.
Depends on the person's intentions. A guy I knew wanted to date girls who didn't have a degree they could be dependent on him. So he does it and he proposes to her, but she doesn't have a job or degree and tells him what to do. It's ironic.
I dont care if she's smarter or makes more money, all I care about is will we get along and be compatible and at least be able to compromise on disagreements.
All good relationships require an Alpha and beta. Two equals only get along for as long as their goals and interests stay the same.
I cringe at those terms but I'll side step that.
so you think an intelligent/successful woman needs her "beta" ? Or she needs a more intelligent /successful man?
Cringe at those terms? Okay. But humans nature dictates only one leader of a group.
Let me ask this. Does this intelligent woman want a guy who’s focused on his own career and goals? A guy who knows how to get what he wants and expects people to do what he wants. A leader and doer? Well if she does she better expect to compromise to his wishes and to see him only when he has time.
I think men who are extremely intelligent and good with money want the same thing in a woman.
It's a bad idea if you think your better and stuff.. I don't know.. riskae.
A mature man will not let the intelligence difference between him and the woman he is persuing faze him. He would take it as a challenge.
If I could find a woman who could keep up with me mentally I'd have a mental boner for her non-stop. Even better if she's smarter.
I feel the same way about men, oy. I haven't given up though. Still, it's a challenge, as straight men seem less into in-depth discussions and debates. I met this guy recently who would be exhausted after talking to me and asked why I liked having these discussions. He thought "intellectual discussions" without practical use in your life right now amounted to "mental masturbation."
That's how it is with women. They want to talk about drama TV. While I'm contemplating if I'm in a simulation and they want no part of it.
Forr they record I hate you because I call it "mind sex"
It depends on the guy.
Some guys like women that are totally bitchy and never satisfied
Some guys prefer manners and simple things
Some guys just want head.
Being compatible isn't automatically linked to IQ, success or ambition. That really is a lame reason for dating OR rejecting someone.
I disagree. Intellectual compatibility is extremely important to me. I dont think I could have the quality of relationship I want without it, and I've noticed that communication and building connection is also very difficult without it.
Most likely. I'd like to date someome who's on my same level.
You do realize the reverse is true as well right? Why should men have to date down?
Because the majority of the time men's opinion of themselves are disproportionate to reality
... wow you actually just said that? Holy shit. I... i don't even have a snarky comeback this bigotry speaks for itself.
Well the cultural/historical context that men have designed encourages men to date down in terms of intelligence and definitely in terms of successful men. All of the media, ads, literature, messages from decades past show that men have always liked a women less successful. Men fought against women having any rights really. Anyway, A lot of men straight out or eventually reluctantly confess they dont like when they feel the girl is smarter or more successful. There's a lot of "women should hide their intelligence, no need to shove it in your faces" that implies an emotional reaction to this kind of woman. Even on the same level might be an issue, if he feels like there is competition. There was that one study that showed men only liked intelligent women in theory. In reality, it was another story. So my point is maybe "dating down" isn't all womens fault - maybe it has a lot to do with how men feel about themselves.
So I dont think anyone is saying anyone "has" to do anything... that wasn't my question. My question was about whether or not its a good idea for very intelligent and/or successful women to date men who are less intelligent/successful, even if they were open to it, if there are they will encounter this with men.
*"our faces"*
I'll tell you this I they don't speak for me. I don't want a glorified yes man, I want a partner and friend... hopefully one as perverted as I am. Look the point is it's not strong intelligent women you need to watch out for, it's the weak weasel ones. At least a strong woman is gonna be honest with you.
What happened to this thing about having good genetics passed on? And what is smart? Remembering stuff? Thinking of new ideas? How do you know the person you think is smart is actually smart?
The attitude women have when they're successful is usually unattractive. I've dated a very smart dentist, and she wasn't full of herself.
Yeah, a lot of men feel this way. It's interesting, I'll say that. But that's what I'm getting at - they dont seem interested in or compatible with many women in these groups. s
Nah, the job or intelligence isn't threatening. There's a very low chance she's more intelligent at everything than me. Most people stick within their range of intelligence. You don't see people with PhD's dating fast food workers.