Men are losing their masculinity in the west, is there a solution?

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englisc · Accepted Answer

For society as a whole, there is no solution. Only individuals and perhaps small groups of men can solve this problem for themselves.

This is nothing new. People only think it is because they don't know their history, feminists especially. They want to shape the world based on the way they think it should work, and it's a whole lot of "why can't it work like this?". They think that it's never been tried, but it has. It always fails.

All cultures rise and fall. This rise and fall comes in cycles. In his book "Sex And Culture", social anthropologist J. D. Unwin wrote about his findings after studying thousands of tribes and civilisations of the past. He noticed this pattern, this cycle. The reason I say that there are no solutions for society as a whole is because no society in the past has ever been able to save itself from this.

Some people describe this cycle simply:
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

That's the cycle. In hard times cultures always become patriarchal. Think about any natural disaster you see happening today, who takes the lead to save people and get shit done? Who risks their lives to do that? Men mostly. The strongest, most capable men of course, not the effeminate pansies. Men are and always have been the ones to do this, even today in this society where we pretend that women can do anything men can do. The only reason people have such delusions is because we live lives of luxury.

So hard times, men lead, men protect the women and children. In these times people see that masculinity is highly necessary and essential to the survival of those people. Under this patriarchal culture, they eventually rise to success.

Once they reach success, they now live in relative comfort and a time of plenty, as we do today. Not understanding the above cycle, they think that progress is linear. They think that those old values are no longer important, and that anybody who still thinks that they are is "behind the times", again as you see so many people repeat. Now they devalue masculinity in men especially. In fact the leaders of those cultures would rather have men weak, passive, easy to control, because it makes their job easier.

However, those old values were what made those cultures successful. Remove that and the culture becomes weaker and weaker. Then the culture always dies out somehow. It either collapses in on itself, or is invaded by another culture sparking war. Chaos ensues. Afterwards the rebuilding of the culture begins again, the first part of the cycle - patriarchy.

I predict that this will happen in the near future in some way. What we won't see is any great awakening of the people before that happens, a return to sanity, or any of the changes people are proposing here which would be great, but which our leaders will not implement.

As a man, you can only really do this for yourself, and perhaps men who are receptive. Surround yourself and ally with strong men. The men in the video? And the majority of the men here? They're too weak and too far gone.

Obtuse · Accepted Answer

I think it'd be a start if they didn't apply such soft ways in school like giving bonus points for effort absent merit or participation trophies or discouraging boys from being boys. Nuclear families without helicopter parents would probably help a lot but it seems like a pipe dream at this point to expect more of those instead of less and less without intervening in areas like public education.

I've also seen a tendency for young people these days to associate dominance with tyranny instead of the traits of a leader and protector as well as competition to be a hostile activity instead of something that helps boys and men discover what they're good at. I think there needs to be taught (in schools if the parents won't teach this) that there are healthy and noble ways to be dominant and healthy and productive ways to compete.

ecfresh · Answer

One thing that would be helpful is more 2 parent households where boys and girls are raised with a father and mother. The girls will learn to respect themselves and have high standards in how men treat them and the boys will have positive role models in acting in a mature masculine fashion and how to better treat women. Women will feel safer embracing their feminine energy when they feel protected by an authentic and strong man.

JackSmy · Answer

Maybe a time of changes, and transitions, and both genders, and the others are learning to live and relate, in this current social structure.
Men 'losing their masculinity?' I doubt that, but maybe other's perspectives, on what 'male masculinity' is?

Anonymous · Answer

It's another reminder that it has been a common discussion among dating and relationship coaches, self-improvement coaches, that masculinity has been on the decline for several years now or maybe even longer, due to toxic masculinity or masculinity being demonized, several other factors, etc.

It's also another reminder that the way it looks like, is that becoming a man is a process, always has been, but for girls, women, transitioning into womanhood happens automatically, etc.

Thatsamazing · Answer

This guy's videos are utter trash. While he makes a few good points here about the fact that dudes who worship mediocre pussy are fucking idiots who need to never reproduce, his content is just so fucking stupid that I can't take him seriously.

TheFlak38 · Answer

Yes there is a solution. Take womens rights away, take their freedom away and lock them in the kitchen. No more single mothers raising wimps and no more special laws serving the interests of women exclusively.

9ncredible · Answer

The solution is to take yourself less seriously. FFS. You sound like some particularly poor bit of Nazi propaganda.

MannySimms · Answer

Yes Antnee, there is. Blowjobs. Receiving good ones bolsters masculinity and always has. NEXT IN LINE...

Daniel3035 · Answer

True tbh I think the biggest issue as well is men on tinder who keep swiping right on girls like have some bloody dignity and stop acting so desperate.

JimmyQ · Answer

Stop electing democrats. You are killing yourselves.

Tamera952 · Answer

They are? That’s news to me

Lotusinwater · Answer

The only solution is Odin 👌

esotericstory · Answer

Society has to become right wing again.

DutchGuy12 · Answer

Everyone is turning into a pussy  Not only men

maadison · Answer

Feliz cumpleaños

JuanFrank7 · Answer

#MakeMenGreatAgain

stonerboner · Answer

Move east.

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