I watched various videos and in all of them he looked uneasy around her and she seemed controlling.
Do you think Johnny Depp abused Amber?
I watched various videos and in all of them he looked uneasy around her and she seemed controlling.
No, I do not think Johnny Depp is even masculine enough to be an aggressor in domestic abuse, to be honest. I'm not trying to belittle him or anything, but he comes off rather effeminate, despite his issues.
I think most people who aren't a feminist POS would agree that Amber Heard was definitely the abusive psychopath in this relationship, especially since she quite literally admitted it on tape. I hope one day the people who think Amber Heard "was a poor victim in all of this" will have everyone turn their shoulder on them in their time of need the way they did for Johnny Depp. But I mean, most feminists are horrendous, sh*tty people anyways, so of course they would side with an obvious domestic abuser, while spouting sh*t like "feminism just wants gender equality" and "feminism cares about men too."
The level of disgusting hypocrisy from the people defending Amber Heard (including that pussy-ass beta-male judge, Andrew Nicol, who dismissed Depp's defamation case) is astounding. If Hell existed, Amber Heard would definitely belong in the ninth circle, to rot in the frozen lake of sh*t for all of eternity. And this is from someone who used to defend Heard prior to all of this.
I myself was falsely accused of something when in college, and got expelled with zero evidence because "what woman would lie about such a thing." I sued the ever-living f*ck out of the school in a case that took three-goddamn-years and only ended up in the judge giving the school a slap on the wrist and paying my lawyer's legal fees for basically taking three f*cking years of my life away from me, while I had to start all over again in a new university. Johnny Depp is a millionaire A-list celebrity and he had his career ruined by a succubus POS. Imagine how many other men out there like me and others, would be going through the same thing without the money for lawyers to try to clear your somewhat name.
False rape accusers and female domestic abusers should get punished equally as much as actual rapists and male abusers. But no, feminists would have you believe we live in a "patriarchy of poor oppressed women being abused by misogynists." What we really truly live in, is f*cking Clown World.
The thought has crossed my mind “damn what if he actually did it”. I mean. We don’t know what’s happened in their household. We know how they present themselves on camera but remember
He’s an ACTOR. Not just any actor. But a Grammy nominated professional actor. He can put on any role he wants with strong conviction. Amber Heard is an actress as well. Based on what I’ve watched I would say at the very least those two have had physical fights “with eachother”.
I don’t know if Depp has instigated any fights but I believe there’s a chance that he’s at least retaliated and defended himself. I’d have to watch more of the court hearings to get a better perspective. Based on what I’ve watched I don’t think either one of them is innocent. I don’t think either of them are victims. They’re a couple that fights and Amber might be trying to use being a woman to spin it into a domestic abuse story.
This is speculation. At the end of the day only they know what has happened.
Amber herd is an opportunist like many up and coming celebrities these days.
They have learned how to fake their way into the right circles and when they get there they find the the weakest link.
Johnny Depp is a wild child but old money in this game...
He lost his looks his charm simply because he got old and his relationship broke with paradis.
He had that midlife crisis and guess what this woman a little mysterious wild devilish came over and wanted him.
He was attracted to the danger in her as that's what excites him.
She needed the ticket in and he thought he could show her the ropes but she showed him just how past it be actually is.
He expected her to beckon to his word like he was doing her a favour.
So she did what a woman like her does.
She set him up.
I'm sorry but I'm not convinced she's innocent.
Maybe it was drugs maybe it was severe anxiety.
But defacating on the bed.
Hmm...
Tbh I just think they met their match.
And I actually think people like that shouldn't be granted a divorce because they'll go on to poison others.
Let's find something or someone more productive to talk about.
No. I think she abused him. She could have just left him if she was unhappy but seems that wasn't enough she had to frame herself as a victim for maximum publicity points and to be in an attempt to gain a larger share of a divorce settlement. It really just shows the double standard soceity has when it comes to male victims of domestic abuse.
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No one can know. And no one should claim to know.
But factually i think depp could afford good lawyers and so could amber these good lawyers wouldn't be hard for them to bring forward evidence. And if one wins over the other with generally the same amount of good lawyers, seems like a fair trail and the outcome shouldn't be scuffed.
Also it's not like depp is some random guy who could easy be blamed as an abuser and not have evidence to back it up. They must of had something credible with the amount of eyes on the case and how legit everyone would be on the courts ass and take the judges jobs and lawyers reputations if it turned out there was no evidence depp was so.
But either way no one knows. And well capitalistic issues and society issues around famous rich men always been the abuser is a thing though, but i still would of thought for such a big case with big names they would have credible evidence to find him actually guilty in the end. If it was a smaller case then i would have no idea aka why i never came out by abuse done to me by an ex.
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I haven't been following it much, but from what I've heard, they both seem like pretty toxic partners, but whereas there was audio in which Amber explicitly admitted to physical abuse, there has yet to be any evidence of physical abuse on Johnny's part.
But the only stake I have in this is that I love the Pirates of the Caribbean series, so I will be extremely disappointed if they end up making another movie and Johnny's not in it. I really don't care that he got fired from Fantastic Beasts. It was pretty bad anyway.
They're not gonna make another Pirates without Johnny Depp. That would be like making a Simpsons episode without Homer.
They already said they're going to do an all-female reboot that will probably flop hard. However, COVID may have canceled it. Also, Disney is losing millions of dollars a day due to COVID and has said they won't be doing anymore wokeness, cause sh*t's hitting the fan and they can't afford to burn money with woke BS anymore like in 2019. And this was BEFORE Mulan 2020 came out with all the Chinese genocide camp controversy involved.
I'm gonna be blunt her I'd say Amber was mainly the abuser to be honest. Yes maybe Johnny Depp might have been in some ways also but her more so. From her recordings she barely said anything nice about Johnny Depp well maybe like two or three nice things apart from that she was putting him down a lot by saying "you're a big baby grow the F$#@k up"
"You never do this and you never do that"
I believe that she even managed to throw a vodka bottle at him which smashed and cut a bit off his finger.
Not to mention that she was always raising her voice during the recordings but Johnny Depp was keeping very calm with her at all times.
Not to mention that she was manipulating Johnny Depp in a way by confusing him during those discussions that they had.
She is narcissistic, manipulative and a liar!
She also manipulated her way out of that situation in court
I have the same opinion. She was and she is all about negative vibes. I remember listening that part : g"row the f$£k up, Johnny" and I thought:omg this man is calm and so peaceful. He choosed his words, he still didn't want to hurt her because he loved her. Just listen how he is pouring his heart out on this audio :
https://youtu.be/Cg9SvQSMnoE
Starting minute 1.20
And all that for nothing. She didn't even hear a single word. 😔
He really did love her and I have a pretty good judgement when it comes to people,
I can tell that Johnny Depp is a empathetic person, that is kind and very loyal but Amber on the other hand looks like she is fake, untrustworthy, disloyal, a lier and that thinks that the world revolves around her not only that but I can tell that she can indeed be manipulative and abusive just by looking at her but I will say that she is indeed intelligent
I've listened to the audio tape and it's pretty clear that Amber definitively abused him. Now I can't say whether or not Depp ALSO abused her but from the sounds of it she was the abusive one and then claimed to be a victim.
Sadly, even with this evidence coming to light for the better part of a year, Depp lost his job in the Harry Potter spinoff series (even though yes, he is still getting paid a lot of money) and Heard is apparently keeping her job as her character in DC/Aquaman.
Both movies are Warner Bros. so its not like there is a philosophical difference here, either.
I think Amber was the aggressor, in nearly all of it, Both were terrible to each other, but she's the one that staged the bruises on her face, and managed to chop his finger partly off. Her making him out to be a domestic abuser was just evil when she was worse. The way i see it, if he lost his spots as Captain Jack Sparrow, and whats his name from Fantastic beasts, then she absolutely should not be part of Aqua man.. And a petition with over a million signatures should speak volumes to the studios.
This is why i am less likely to believe women.. Because even when hundreds of pieces of evidence have come out in support of Depp, He is still the one with the destroyed career and Amber has suffered literally no consequences for her lies.
I hope her career ends. Clearly she was the guilty one. She was aressted years ago for violence towards one of her friends. J Depp is a kind man and the relationship with her was like a roller coaster. He didn't know how to react. Even when she left him.. he told her that it would be better to end things nicely. No court, no suffering. He loved her still and knowing how many proofs he had against her.. didn't want her involved in the court. This whole case makes me sad because I had a friend who been through this. Didn't end well for him. He commited suicide. Violence must stop.
I lost my brother the same way.. i agree with you. l
I don't know through all this what I realised is, I don't WANT it to be true. Like I grew up with Johnny Depp, loved his movies. I don't really like the idea of him being abusive. And I think it's important not to let a little bit of evidence tell the whole story.
My friend thinks it was mutual but she probably feels that way because she comes from a culture where that's acceptable and also she really likes amber heard.
So I don't know. I mean for sure it's very obvious that she's manipulative and mentally unstable. But everyone knows Depp as being unstable too right? Lots of people are defending him, which is very unusual to see in Hollywood. I would think people would have to feel very strongly to back an accused wife beater of a marvel star these days.
But there's still that hint of doubt
I don’t know much about the story, I haven’t looked into it myself and just see what’s trending on Facebook and Instagram.
i originally learned about it a while ago from someone who was on Ambers side claiming Johnny was the abuser.
and now I see most people are on Johnny’s side and there’s evidence supporting Amber being the abuser.
(Even a picture of Amber with Elon Musk having bruises all over his face while they were together)
and I’ve heard there’s evidence they abused each other. I’m not sure
No!
All the evidence, such as audio recordings of Amber Heard ranting, show that she was a violent psychotic who abused Johnny.
She also has a history, in that she physically attacked her former lesbian partner.
Amber is also a proven liar.
The insane counter-factual judgement at the defamation trial and Depp's subsequent sacking by Warner Bros. shows that there is no justice for men.
The only what that men can protect themselves against false allegations by batshit insane women is to not allow women into their lives. No dating, no sex, no relationships, do not even speak to women. Cross the street to avoid women.
MGTOW monk.
Your assessment is far more a reality than certain women will ever care to admit goes on. The approach to domestic violence has it all wrong and taking Rights away as an answer only makes things worse. Domestic issues are always driven by escalation and getting the legal system involved to strip Rights and or imprisoning or doing nothing at all is how one or both (and sometimes even the children) end up dead.
If one would have it in them to just leave the other so much damage could be avoided.
Cops in America could get called out to a domestic where the husband is lying in his own blood while the wife stands screaming holding a bloody knife, and they’d arrest the husband. Its practically protocol.
When she called the cops they came out, examined the scene and talked to both of them... then decided her claims were baseless and left.
That should be proof enough he did nothing. Personally I’m going with the statement made by eye witness comedian Doug Stanhope who I’ve never seen lie about anything in 2 years. (He talked about cheating on his girl, getting abortions, euthanising his mother, and plenty of illegal acts, never saw him lie though) and he said Amber was the violent psycho liar.
I feel like it's vice versa as well you have to remember johnny had 1-2 married wives before? And in his 50+ years and both of them saying he was short tempered and an ass but never hit them and if he did why now after 50+ years? That's a long time to hold it in. Also if he really was that evil why would he hit her? Because he knows as his career in pirates of the Caribbean and as a celebrity if he hit a woman that's his career ended. And if he was seriously evil why did he hit her on the face for everyone to see most abusers do it in locations you can't see.
Where was he when she first abused her? Why did not he leave her in the first place. I dont feel bad for anyone who let himself/herself get abused. Furthermore, he is a man and so physically stronger than her. He could defend himself and also can't feel bad for people who leave their kids and ex wife for younger women. I also dont believe that she just physically abused him out of nowhere. Nobody hit you just for no reason. I am not justifying abuse but humans tend to be more violent when they become angry because of something and not for no reason. So i think he also did something and again he should have left her immediately after she hit him the first time.
There are many audio conversation between them. He says that he tried to get away, to leave and stop the fighting and the whole abuse. Then she went nuts and yell at him:he is a baby, he is a coward. The man respects woman enough to not hit back. Plus, he loved her so much. After all these years he finally realised all that love was just for the idea of her.
My aunt get abused by her husband but still she is with him. I can't stand such people. Such people only hurt people who care about them. My grandma died because of the stress that is caused by my aunt since she also hurt her parents by staying with such abusive partner and her kids also get abused. Then my mum has enough of having worrries due to my aunt.
So sorry this happend. Hope she will open her eyes and get out from that relationship soon. Before it'a too late. I had a male friend who commited suicide. His wife was so violent. He thought she is gonna change eventually. She didn't. In the end she divorced him, made him look guilty, took his car and his house...
I love johny.. he hates the lime light on his personal life that’s possibly why he was uncomfortable. I think he made a poor choice marrying a child. And I can’t say where or not that tipped him over the edge and he lashed out at her. The fact that he let his personal life be dragged through the mud so publicly by instigating the defamation trail makes me think he truly believes he didn’t abuse her.
No, i think Johnny Depp was the one being abused (maybe they both abused each other).
All the leaked media files, like audio recordings and pictures, point towards Amber has abused Johnny.
To be fair these can be tempered with or being faked, ... but i haven't seen or heard any "piece of evidence" like this, which point towards Johnny is an abuser.
No, simply cause she has a past of abusing other people in relationships and Depp doesn't.. His former partners spoke up for him sayin he never laid a hand on them. I t was the opposite for Amber.. She was observed multiple times gaslightin him sayin that "I didn't beat you I just punched you".. If he did "abuse" her it would have been in retaliation because she is a nutcase from what I seen about her.. Sad thing is she got away with it too.. She was right.. The courts didn't believe him.
Of course not. No history of it and their was no evidence of it. The only reason why they say he did is because a woman accused him and men are never treated as victims and women are never treated as victimizers no matter what evidence is brought forth.
Pretty sure that she was abusing him hoping for him to snap so she can use it against him, and when he didn't do enough she painted bruises on herself.
In either case, she seems like someone who deserves to be ran over by a truck, but in the kind of way where you don't just die, but are stuck to bed and have to eat through a straw for the rest of your life.
hahaha.. nice touch 2nd paragraph lol
No
I know someone who knows Johnny Depp and he has had Johnny stay at his home* with his wife and family on numerous occasions
N. b. he's in film production and worked with Depp on those Alice in wonderland films
* well, mansion would be the only way not to insult it
No, there's very concrete evidence Depp did nothing wrong and it was in fact Heard who abused him. She even admitted it and threatened him and it was all on record.
It's bizarre society allows female abusers to get away with it. It's terrible.
@chris_987 Well, I hope they reject her in future, then.
That's news to me.
Oh that bitch Heard totally did it. That said, it sounds like they were both toxic in their own ways, but Depp seems more self-destructive rather than abusive. Ultimately I believe he's the real victim here. And now he's being blackballed by Hollywood. Fickle dickbags
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