Let's be all the way real here. ALL "friendships" exist for the "benefits", or at least, for the HOPE of "benefits." This includes women too - except the benefits women want are (typically) different than the benefits men want.
For men, the hoped-for benefit is SEX. And women should not be naïve: your male "friends" want to fuck you, and if you give them a chance, they will. Okay, at least 98% of them will - I grant you a unicorn or two.
But let's be equally real with women's motivations. Women ALSO want "benefits" - except women generally aren't looking for casual sex nearly as much. Instead, the benefits women are after is ATTENTION, sometimes advice, and very often FAVORS.
Virtually every female friend I've ever had has wanted attention - for me to listen to her problems and drama, and for me to tell her that her feelings are justified (here they were often disappointed, as if I felt that they were being petty, manipulative, or overly-sensitive, I'd tell them so), etc., or they come to me for an answer to a difficult problem (but only following my advice 1/3 of the time), or they come to me for favors. "While you're here, could you take a look at my TV?" "You know a lot about computers, right?" "Why would my Check Engine light be on?" "You can fix a toilet, right?"
Now, I'm not a selfish person, and I don't mind helping out, especially when they were genuinely appreciative - making me food, or inviting me to use their swimming pool or something, etc., but let's not pretend that women don't do this a LOT with their guy friends. I know I'm far from the only guy who gets that kind of thing, as I've seen it happen to my guy friends as well.
The difference is that women aren't looked down upon for using men this way, but men are made to feel bad for desiring sex - which is why so many guys PRETEND not to even when they really do. And this is why so many women THINK they have guys who are "just friends" when, actually, they don't.
"Virtually every female friend I've ever had has wanted attention - for me to listen to her problems and drama, and for me to tell her that her feelings are justified"
Women also want that from other women. That's a core component of female friendship. I'm not a man but I heard the male equivalent is playing games or engaging in physical activity or whatever?
As for tools, women will do that more often with men than other women because men are stereotypically better with tools, but that's not the same as *only* being friends with guys so that they can fix your toilet.
Men being friends with women and also wanting sex is fine, just like women being friends with men and also liking their objects repaired is fine.
It's when guys say "men are only friends with women for sex" that people get offended. It would be like if a woman said "I'm only friends with guys so they can fix my toilet".
This here is a great answer. Couldn't have put it better myself
@mistixs "Women also want that from other women. That's a core component of female friendship."
Yes, of course - because that's how women communicate. But it's not how MEN communicate - men get directly to the point and want to solve the problem. Women want to give you a 40-page history and then not even ask their actual question at the end, and it drives men insane - but we (mostly) put up with it.
"It's when guys say "men are only friends with women for sex" that people get offended. It would be like if a woman said "I'm only friends with guys so they can fix my toilet"."
Most women would never say this, but if the guy wouldn't give her attention or do her favors, she would also drop him as a friend or just drift away. I've experienced that myself, and seen it in other people.
The harsh reality is that we ALL want things out of friendships that the other friend may not always want to give. But because of society and manners, people will pretend they don't - at least up to a point. But if the benefits - or at least the hope for benefits - goes away, in most cases, so does the friendship.
Nope. Most women I talk to in a friendly manner, I would never consider having sex with. If a friendship of any sort lasts for any period of time, it’s not because I’m waiting to bang her. It’s because she’s easy to be around, communicate with, she’s laid back, she doesn’t expect much from me, she’s loyal, respectful, trustworthy, we have common interests, we have fun together, she’s funny, intelligent, entertaining, and stuff like that. Women tend to fuck that up most of the time in one way or another, so many aren’t worth being friends with. That said, if they are sexually attractive AND they can manage to be a good friend THEN a relationship is definitely more enticing… Sexual attraction is going to be a lot more physical, behavioral, and visual at the front end. We don’t know anything about you when we approach you. We aren’t fucking mind readers. As a man I’m not trying to bond to determine if sex will be fun. If the friendship/bonding happens along the way, I might stick around… You’re looking at the situation backwards. Looks and physical behavior will always drive sexual desire. Commitment will always be driven by personality.
I think many men would be happy if their female friends offered sex, because many men would be happy if a woman in general offered sex (see the Clark and Hatfield study and its many off-shoots).
That's not the same as only being friends in order to get sex. Some guys say that & I think that's misogynistic because it's implying they don't really view women as people like other guys are; they only view them as sex objects. I don't care if men are friends with women and would also like sex too, that's natural, but it's offensive when guys say that sex is all they want.
How would men feel if women said "I'm only friends with guys so they can fix my sink when I need them to"? Wouldn't they feel used?
We would feel used the same way we feel used when you make us listen to your incessant whining about crap that has obvious solutions which you do not wish to hear about or even get annoyed with us for pointing out.
"Benefit" lol. Talk about a subtle choice of words there.
A lot of men would be happy if they got to experience their platonic women sexually (whether one time, temporarily, or something enduring.) That could be deep interest, or mild curiosity.
But that does not mean that they therefore only interact with them to wait around for this slim possibility.
Why is this platonic friends question so popular?
Is it because there are many people who don't have the nerve to tell their 'friend' that they want more?
It is absolutely possible for men and women to be friends.
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We don't have this type of culture here in Japan. Japanese way doesn't discriminate friends by sex or by sexual desire even at a young age. Our friend groups are mixed in sex even at 6-years old:
It was actually huge culture shock to me when I went to US and learned that American boys think being friends with girls is weird and that girls have the "cooties". I ignored them. We don't care so much in Japan whether friend is girl or guy. And I have many female friends and I am equally good or better friends with their boyfriends and husbands too. This is Japanese way.
I think the reason Western guys have a problem making friends with girls is that there are too many incels there. They can't get date so they crush too hard on their female friends even if they have boyfriend and act all creepy and weird. Guy who can get date easily don't need to obsess on his female friends. Brad Pitt probably doesn't have problem having female friends or acting all weird and entertaining ulterior motives around them. We are like Brad Pitt here in Japan -- most of us.
@Juxtapose Absolutely. Cuz Japanese incels are just pathetic. They don't talk shit about women. And we don't have this formal "incel" term in our language. Hang out at English-speaking forums and they are talking shit about women all day long. We can compare it to suicide vs. school shooters. I do am not nearly as harsh towards a suicidal young man as I am towards a school shooter. Because the suicidal man might be a gigantic fag but he's not hurting people, you know. If people wanna jump off a cliff they will not warrant my harshest critique. But if people wanna throw others off a cliff, they will get my worst.
@Juxtapose You take a Japanese "incel" and they've truly given up. Just like a Japanese homeless man. Come to Tokyo and see how many people beg for your money. It is close to none because Japanese homeless accept their fate. They even forget their own names on purpose because they divorce themselves from their past. They do not harass people. They do not beg. Americans beg left and right. There's even a panhandling problem there among people who aren't even desperate for food. Spoiled, you know. I cannot sympathize with that. They are not even on the verge of death.
Good point. There is a definite difference between being vocal and hostile, and passive and resigned.
The 'accept their fate' concept is very Japanese though.
In North America we would see it as financial misfortune, or mental health or physical health issues, not as inevitable end.
@AmandaYVR It is very much a weakness as I see it here. But I think it's at least imbalanced away from hurting and exploiting other people, away from seeing people as a means to an end. I would prefer not to pick among evils but I think this is the lesser of the two.
I befriend people because people are fun to talk to and spend time with, and this applies to both men and women.
I don't really hope I will be getting something more out of it, nor will I ever get upset or frustrated if it remains entirely platonic forever.
However...
Do I prefer cute girls for friends? Of course.
Will I flirt with them mercilessly like I would with any other girl? You bet I will.
Would I bang them if they were to express interest in me that way? Sure thing.
Do I take the "it's only going to be a friendship" spiel seriously? Naah.
I've had way too many "totally uninterested" female friends shift into "soo... what if I WAS interested?" to know that being platonic at one point doesn't really mean anything.
All I can draw from is personal experience, and I’ve never had a guy friend who only wanted to be my friend. They’d pretend to be my friend, but it’s not long before the subtle (or not so subtle, if drinking was involved) attempts at flirting start to creep in. Then comes the being asked out or the “I feel like I’ve always liked you” speeches, or suddenly talking down on whomever i was dating at the time. This is always a bummer for me, because I feel like I’ve never experienced a true male friend. Sad sad.
So I hug all my friends and next thing I know one of them is kissing me and I'm like woah I didn't okay this avoided him for two weeks, which is hard cause we lived in the same building, but luckily not same floor- 10 stories, but I was so shocked I just didn't know what to do. I then felt bad thinking that maybe I lead him on but I never flirted with him or anything so 🤷🏻♀️
It can be foe sure, from selfish perspective. If his selfish then yes. But even then spending good time with someone is also benefiting from other. It can go deep. You need to be more specific. What kind of benefiting are we talking? Financial, emotional?
Well in that case, guys are looking females mostly 90% for sex reasons. Tell me, what is guy and girl gonna do as friends? I want to see if my mind can see reason to be friends with girl.
Well I do agree that most men are friends with females in hopes that one day they will be able to have sex with them, but this is how the male mind is wired, so there is not much you can do about that, but pushing that aside, can a guy still genuinely care for their female friend and be there for them even though in the back of their mind they wouldn’t be against the idea of being able to have sex with them in the future?
I mean they call it simping for girl. Onlyfans, so yea sure. I mean I can see how female friend can be useful, ask her to hook u up with her other female friends, thats what friend would do.
Do you mean, “Do men only maintain friendships with women if they know they can exploit them?” (I mean, friendship is always a give and take. Why would anyone bother if there wasn’t a benefit to it?)
I would like to think that sort of behavior is limited to users, narcissists, and sociopaths.
Personally, I love my women friends and I think I have more to offer than exploitation. I’ll grill meal, fix a cocktail, lend an ear, give advice, drive them to the airport, fix plumbing, hang out… normal friend stuff?
Is there more context to your question?
Thanks for updating.
Yes, a man can be just friends with a woman if he knows it’ll just be a normal friendship. At least it’s true for me.
When I was single, it was usually pretty clear when women were interested in me and when not. If it the spark was missing, pretending to be friends for the off chance at sex never entered my mind. Seems like a desperate/douchey thing to do. But if there was still rapport, why not remain friends?
I distanced myself from women who I thought were interested in me but in whom I had no interest, mostly because I didn’t want to give them false hope. And I could always tell when it was done to me, so I laid off.
I did end up married to my best friend. I think that’s OK too.
Honestly i posted a take "dont have sex with sluts" for this reason.
When you dont realize just how many women are sluts, you idolize them as innocent angels that you have to work on and "expose" to the sexual world.
I remember being a young kid and not even realizing women watched porn online. Thats how delusional i was, and what's scary is that that is a natural delusion that both men and women have about women called the Women Are Wonderful Effect.
If a guy realizes that women will come onto you if they are truly interested then yes its possible to have a friendship. But then again just what do men and women have in common beyond having sex and relationships? Even if she's a painter too, women usually paint so drastically different from men. Its like two perspectives that men and women live through that only mesh together when the allure of sex or love is there.
Of course not, i have plenty of friends that are girl that I’ve never even thought about anything sexual, i treat them just like I would treat my guy friends. They might serve me the benefit of being there for me emotionally as I am there for them as well
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It can happen where there's no thinking of being friends with sex on the table, but personally I say the opposite is more true. It's happened on 7 separate occasions with me where guys would make their moves and make them more and more obvious and even if you state that your not into them they keep trying and going with it making the situation more and more uncomfortable
Im typically only friends with girls I find attractive. So i find them attractive plus the fact I know them because we’re friends. Obviously imma want to fuck at some point. Attraction grows with familiarity
A couple of my closest friends are women. I have no desire or expectation of sex with them. They are very attractive young women. That doesn't mean that I want to bang them on the closest firm surface.
I'm friends with a girl I live 9000 miles away from. There's very little possibility for any sexual relationship between us even if either of us wanted it. It doesn't mean I don't value her friendship. In fact I hope it says how much I value it.
No. My best friend is a woman. She even offered to date me and i said no. 11 years before that i had a crush on her. She refused to date.
Anyway. Its truly friendship. A best friend from college. But as a guy i know that outside of being family or a college friend? Then a guy talking up my girl wants to bang her. Women convince themselves this is true as an excuse to build up a roster of replacement boyfriends after a breakup.
We don't always look for that.
Sometimes men just need to find a certain woman that is really nice to hang out with, easygoing and feel convenient to talk with her.
Though there are men that like you said but I don't think all men are like that.
Most men orbit in case the chick gets vulnerable and wants to sleep with them. It's usually not about friendship, it's about sexual possibility.
That being said, women and men can be just friends, but the sex question has to be addressed and out in the open. Once you've had that conversation then you can be friends.
Define benefit. Is it always sexual? Not necessarily. However, whenever I'm friends with a girl that I'm not attracted to, the girl is attracted to me though.
Sometimes guys are friends with girls for the benefit of dating her friends or meeting new people. Others could be for job or professional connections.
It really depends.
Men that see women only as an object for their pleasure see every woman as an opportunity. Men that don’t have this view of women can and do have close relationship with the women with out requiring a sexual possibility.
No! Most guys are friends with girls because they have a friendship. They respect them from work or they have similar hobbies or religious/spiritual values.
No some of them genuinely enjoy the other person’s company. It is definitely more rare though, than the ‘friends’ who are there either for convenience or they’re in the same social circle. In my experience anyway.
You are supposed to derive benefits from friends regardless. It’s possible that the needs and motives may be different but as long as the platonic relationship is honest and fruitful on both sides I don’t think the details matter.
Not any more than the number of girls who become friends with men only to benefit from them, which is to say almost none. Stereottping men is as bad as stereotyping women and girls. Stop it.
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I will say no as well.
For the men who answered that men can’t just be friends with women without wanting sex, does this apply to very long term friendships? I have several guy friends I have known and stayed friends with for over 20 years. Are you saying they always wanted to hit it? And still so even tho now I am a middle aged mom?
Yup. It can apply to long term friendships too.
If a woman is fairly attractive, they might have thought about it and they might want it, even now.
But they haven't made a move due to various reasons
Men are very observant to attractive females that is our natural mechanism but any person mature enough to know what friendship is worth won't cross limits even in his mind...
But then again all people have deep dark sides so it's unfair to expect that all men be saintly sometimes naught ideas pop into everybody's head but you just learn to ignore em better with age
Yup, many guys, just try to act normal, but if a woman asks him, most of them won't turn down the offer
If I wanna have sex with a girl and don't wanna be friends with her, then I won't be friends with her I'll just ask her to fuck. If I'm friends with her I wanna be. Maybe I wanna bang her too but if I just wanted that she wouldn't be worth being friends with.
No. I have lots of guy friends they never tried to benefit me. Guys see their female friends as bruh girls. Guys can be friends with girls it is 21st century it is very normal. To be honest it is really noce to have guy friends that you can talk about anything like periods, dating advice, etc...
True, but just because they haven't made a move doesn't mean they haven't thought about it
As I mentioned in another reply, do NOT mistake the fact that the guys have taken no overt action as being the same thing as them not wanting it. If you offered your "guy friends" sex tomorrow, 98% of them would take you up on it immediately. If they were "just friends", they would turn you down, but that's almost certainly not what would happen.
@mistixs I disagree. But you can test your theory: tell your guy "friends" that you like them as friends, but there is no way you will EVER have sex with them, no matter what. Having killed all hope, my bet is that within 6 months, the vast majority of them will have drifted out of your life, even if you used to talk with them every day. The guy may not even realize it himself, but the HOPE of MAYBE one day having sex with you was really the reason why he stuck around (again, with a few rare exceptions who might pass this test).
I've actually had girls do this, because they didn't believe me - and it went exactly as I predicted - those guys faded out of their lives to some extent or other. Some didn't disappear entirely, but definitely went from talking 3 or 4 days a week to once a month or every other month, while other guys were completely gone.
It isn't wise to underestimate how strong sex is as a motivator for most men in ALL things to do with women.
Most men actually create a friendship with women they find attractive. It's kinda the first step for many guys
Not me. My best friend is a woman, and we’ve never had sex, and there is no sexual interest from either side. Now, how has the friendship been mutually beneficial? Yes, just not sexually.
No.
Most of my friends are men and they never ask me for anything other than my company.
Their girlfriends don’t seem to mind me. Pretty sure they assume I’m a lesbian. Lol
"Most of my friends are men and they never ask me for anything other than my company."
You're mistaking the fact that they haven't asked you for sex as being the same thing as they didn't want sex from you. But those are two VERY different things.
Understand that men may have girlfriends, fuckbuddies, etc. who come and go, and might be your "friend" for 20 years, and you think he's "JUST" your friend, but that entire 20 years, he's been waiting for you to be single, or for you to show interest, or for you to be "needy" - in other words, he's been waiting for an opportunity with you. Just because he's had other girls does NOT mean he isn't waiting for an opportunity with you. And you may not be the only "female friend" he's waiting for an opportunity with. Those guys are "playing the long game" and are continuing to live their lives while they do it, but, trust me, at least most of them would have sex with you tomorrow if you offered. Almost none of them would turn you down - which means they aren't "just friends" with you. There might be one or even two (if you have a bunch of guy friends) who are genuinely "just friends" who would turn you down, but 90+% would go for it if they thought they could.
Don't believe me? Offer to have sex with them and see what they say.
I’ve known them for most of my life.
I know them very well and know for a fact they do NOT want to have sex with me.
Just because you’re a sex addict or know men who are sex addicts doesn’t mean that all men are.
You don’t know my friends, but I hope you enjoyed typing that pointless rant.
I don't choose my friends based on who can benefit me. I'm not part of that sick shallow culture. I choose my friends strictly based on how I vibe with them.
I rather be friends with women I can talk with them a lot easier it’s nothing sexual. My wife fills all of my desires and needs. Most men are just to odd for me to talk to have nothing in common
That's human nature. People only keep those around that that they benefit from. That comes in many different forms from one person to the next
i think generally speaking that's what friendship is. i mean should you be friends with someone who's just taking and never giving? it should be reciprocal shouldn't it? that's the essence of friendship right?
Fucking hell dude no, I have many female friends and they're amazing, I love them and they love me, they bring me so much happiness and I do the same for them too, I don't feel attracted to some of them yet I'm close to those the most, I don't care if I benefit from them or not, their company is enough benefit just like any nice friendship out there.
I haven't read many guy comments here but the ones I read are fucking disgusting lmao
It depend on the man I personally don't like any kind of friend ship with women it's not healthy it reduce the masculinity as I'm 6.2 and fit and many other women flirt as real women I'm not interested to have female friends.
It depend on the man I think if he's an as kisser then he may stay friends
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Not necessarily, but they usually pass through such a phase for sure, at least at the very beginning.
Yes, that is correct. Otherwise, what would be the point? To maybe get to go shoe-shopping or something? I mean, come on woman, what do you want, a simp or a tiger?
you haven't met any fun women have you? lol my female friends play fortnite, soulcalibur, minecraft, borderlands and a bunch. of other stuff with me.
@TheSpaceGnome and they can beat you at it too, right? Ahah x3
I think opposite gender friendships are also good cuz you can get dating advice from them
sometimes, my one friend is pretty good at nightmare in sc6, though dating advice is something i have yet to get from friends.
@TheSpaceGnome - I'm an IT tech. The LAST thing I ever want to do after work is to look ad a video screen.
The fact is, truly platonic mixed-gender relationships don't really exist - one or the other will always want more. This is settled science. Just google it if you're not sure.
I'm usually in front of a screen all day by choice.
Either way I have a bunch of completely platonic mixed gender relationships, and doing a google search isn't going to nullify that fact.
Honestly I don't understand why you think a strait guy would automatically be sexually attracted to anything with a vagina, it just seems off to me. You know picky people are the norm right?
@TheSpaceGnome Azwel 4 life.
@TheSpaceGnome - You're kind of dense, aren't you? Oh well.
@Browneye57 why are you calling him dense? maybe you just don't understand his experience of reality. Just because its different from yours doesn't make it invalid. Can we stay try to be understanding of each other?
and though i know i can't change your mind if you are not open to change, but I personally believe in opposite gender friendships. All that is required is communication. Yea, there might be attraction at some point of both people are decent looking and friendly and compatible, but if they dont wanna be together romantically, they can simply communicate that and stay true to their word. That's called Integrity.
and i know not everyone has integrity in their character, but hopefully people can become aware of what that means and work towards it. That's what I encourage in my network of friends
@SnowyOwl - No. I owe him nothing. He thinks he knows something but he doesn't.
And you don't know what you're talking about either, I own you nothing either.
Neither of you came here to learn anything, you just want people to agree with you. Sorry, not my job, not wasting my time. Have fun on GAG.
I'm telling you that there is really no such thing as mixed-gender platonic relationships. One or the other will always want more - there's a reason they were attracted to each other in the first place. Do some google search if you don't believe it. This is well-settled common knowledge.
Good bye.
I'm not dense just because you can't find already taken women you enjoy being friends with but aren't attracted to. Seems like you are the dense one honestly. not everything between the sexes is sexual. sometimes it really just is shared hobbies.
also azwel is just an easy mode algol, and he doesn't even have pew pews or that silly chair that made him funny af xD
@TheSpaceGnome Azwel's style is pretty sweet & powerful though.
visually yeah his abilities are cool but i get bored playing his fighting style cuz it lacks any sense of difficulty and thats kinda the main reason i play fighting games.
I don't think so. I have male friends who will never have any other benefits apart from my friendship and we still remain friends.
Yes thats how men are, plus the type of men that would stay in the fried zone isn't the man women are attracted to so dont expect attractive guys to stay in the fried zone. there's a lot of nice juicy opportunities out here
This sounds like something only one type of men would say: The fuckboys, who see women as nothing more than a sex object - A beautiful face, body and the slit between her legs.
No.
My advice to you with your guy friends and guys you know. Be with supportive people and people who genuinely care about you.
Drama and arguments can be tiring and something you don’t need in life.
There are good guys in this world too you know who genuinely whish well and acre about you if you think that men only have feelings if they can get sex from you then you have misunderstood our kind from the very beginning , it all depends on what is in the foundation of a friendship sometimes it's work sometimes it's understanding sometimes it's just human socialization process doing it's job...😂
Would make sense. I’m not trying to be a guys friend unless i wanna date him
I’m actually really good friends with my girlfriends best friend. We often go climbing together without my girlfriend. Yes I’m attracted to her and my girlfriend knows that, but I would never sleep with her even if my relationship with my girlfriend ended. I have a lot of respect for our friendship and my relationship and I would never want anything more.
This is false. I have several friends who are women and sex never was or will be on the table with any of them.
No... but my weird fetish is I’d sleep with all of my friends... attracted or not. So maybe... lol. But that builds so I don’t start all friendships like that.
Nah we can be friends with women but 9/10 women we hang out we only met because We tried getting them as a girlfriend.
Sometimes that not working out turns in too a decent friendship
I've had many friends that are female that I would never want to "benefit" from. Some guys that friend a woman see her more as a sister than an object of sex.
Of course and vice versa? Why do people deny biology.
No, some men just value the friendship of a woman without any sex.
Yep, and vice versa. Your civilization is based on that...
I have women I'm best friends with that I don't have interest in dating.
Nae, I’m friends with the married woman across the parking lot and there’s no friends with benefits or anything like that.
If all you do is fuck, then ya. Friends with benefits is tough. Best to iron out everything beforehand.
Would I be friends with someone I knew I could someday sleep with? Never. That’s beyond messed up that someone would do that. Women are smarter than men in many ways. It’s good to pick people’s brains. You never know what you will get!
Not necessarily, I have many women friends who are friends in which I have no interest in them for anything sexual.☯️
NO! "most" men would "hope" for something sexual (can be just a kiss on the lips) again "MOST" men, not all. It is in our nature and Sigmund Freud proved it years ago.
thats the only friendship that exists between men and women
i only friends with people who benefit me , doesn't matter if they are men , women , trannies , genderless , etc
No. I think we all enjoy the company of good interesting people. If we jerk off to you, that’s just a bonus.
Men only stay friends with females in hope one day he will become more than friend. I don't believe in friendship between men and women
100 per percent yes
Unless I'm trying to get something sexually there's no reason for me to be your friend
Why would I want that in the first place?
Not really, sometimes it's better to have females as friends.
Definitely not. I don't expect anything from the women that I am friends with.
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