Because if she can guard her virtue, she can guard her household and be trustworthy?
Also, it's more about aligning values than simply virginity. No guy wants to find a dozen step kids in the woodwork, nor does he want to deal with a mental train wreck "abortion mama" who was sleeping around and punishing her unborn kids for it.
@Spencer754 When a mother gets pregnant, it's automatically a child although most don't consider it a child until around 5-6 weeks when the baby has a heartbeat. I don't believe in abortion and I think that babies should have a chance at life whether Mom planned them or not. Children are a gift from God and you are lucky if He chooses you to be a mother to His special angel He gave to you.
Sure. Thats why God decides to put those "angels" into foster homes if they're lucky. And the unlucky ones get to be assaulted or worse. Then when they grow up and commit crimes due to the lack of love they receive, it's usually people like you that are the first to say they should be killed or locked up for life
@Spencer754 God didn't decide to put them in adoption centers or foster families, their parents did. I am a good person and I believe every child deserves a chance at life. My aunt just adopted two little girls not too long ago am a Christian and I don't care what you think about my beliefs. You don't like it, DEAL WITH IT!
@Spencer754 Because I think anybody who believes in abortion and babies not being a kids until there born should be blown off the face of the Earth and spend the rest of eternity in the underworld
@Spencer754 You're confused. I'm talking about the woman losing her virginity and falling pregnant being a step further from that. Doesn't matter if it's aborted, still born or born - it's still medically regarded as a child. You must be simple minded if you don't understand that premature births and c-sections are a thing? Not every kid is just born, and ultrasound scans are not magically taking pictures of things that don't exist.
Because then she wasn't promiscuous, is more likely to see sex as part of a special emotional bond and not something to do casually purely for physical pleasure. Also she wouldn't have kids from another guy already. I think those would be the main reasons.
When I was young and inexperienced I thought virgins were very appealing because their inexperience made them less intimating and I had this naive belief that two people fell in love and were together for ever.
But after 22 or so I quickly changed my mind, and honestly I would never want to be a virgins first at this point in my life.
I think it's weird and I am a virgin by the way. It's weird because we aren't a treasure and my vagina should be just as precious as any other women's vagina. People have sex (or don't) for all kinds of reasons and if a man is going to look at me very differently depending on whether I am a virgin or not makes me feel very uncomfortable and questioning his intentions.
If it's from a sexual experience, then OK that's fun. I would love for an experienced guy to teach me.
I mean I'm not going to treasure the vagina of a prostitute. I wouldn't even touch one for free lol. And when a vagina has contracted STDs believe me it's ummm less valuable lets just say. And I would hope girls think the same of a penis with the same circumstances. :P
@Subarugirl I wish that was the case but I keep reading girls dont value a virgin guy or a guy with a low body count. I've honestly had numerous opportunities but practiced discipline and restraint. I dont see why that should be frowned upon. Not say that's the case with either of you two ladies. But I've read lots of women say they would never date a guy without lots of sexual experience. I just can't jump in bed like that. I need the connection and bond first. And the girls that wanted to jump in bed like that... yeah they werent looking for such things. And because I knew their whole dating history from in school I was repulsed. I would think like "man it's like banging him and him and him too". Even if that's not the case it felt weird to me. Its quite possibly different if you are strangers or something and you haven't seen all those other faces she's been with. Definitely became jaded for many year about the existence of love because of it too. But I realized I came up in a low income area and statistics show that economics can factor into such things.
It's definitely rare although not sure about the treasure part.
Don't get me wrong I have nothing but respect to women who are not socially swayed to have sex with 100 guys before the age 25 but the trade-off is that they have no experience and their body is not used to penetration which makes it every uncomfortable.
So the sex itself isn't amazing but the person can be a decent person who's a blast to hanagout with
But whats the big deal? Just fuck her 50x and she's just as good as any other girl... if not better because she's learned exactly how to do it with you.
Sure that would work but I am simply pointing out that a virgin girl isn't a rare treasure sexually. Plus having slept with one I can tell you it's not an enjoyable experience. But you have a point do it often enough and you two will have an amazing dynamic although the same can be said of anyone
I dont think so. I've been with a few virgins and after fucking them a lot they basically were all better than all the other girls because we shared the exact same desires for sex. They learned exactly what i liked and learned to like exactly the same thing too. Other non virgins often have fantasies and things that dont align with what i want because they learned them from other men. Ie one girl was accustomed to fingering her exs ass as he came. Where i do not like such a thing.
I did of course. It doesn't matter that I wasn't in live, I'm always a gentleman and I did some extra effort since it was her first. And sure the sex was ok but when you're used to someone who's experienced you feel the level of difference
Well, most girls aren't virgins, so they factually are rare. They are treasured because no other man has been with them, which is naturally appealing. What I think of it? Yeah, sure, I'd prefer to date a virgin, but I recognize that isn't likely at my age. And I'd rather date a girl who is open to sex than one who isn't, which makes dating a virgin even more unlikely. So I think it's ultimately not worth worrying over too much. Too knit-picky, y'know? No one's perfect.
Maybe because they have something of value. A virgin girl could easily lose her virginity like some girls, but instead she has something the other girl can never have back.
Because I’m society rather than sex being seen as a mutual thing sex is seen as something that is “done” to a woman rather than involving two consenting parties. Which is why men are praised for having high body counts and women are shamed for it, it’s also why male victims of SA aren’t taken seriously, why make virgins are seen as “losers”, and why women that are virgins for “too long” are seen as prudes
@David_Kek Isn't Biblical (2.3 billion people are Christians) view of relationship between man and woman all about both of them being part of each other? If I remember correctly there is a passage about each of partners being responsible for needs of the other instead of just taking what they need themselves. But I suppose that is also social/cultural instead of biological.
Wtf does a 42 year old know about the 21st century lmao. Most girls don’t make the first move hence most are virgins however compared to males that’s nothing. There are a lot more male virgins than female. That’s just common sense.
@Nades You can laugh your ass off all you want but what does my age have to do with this question? I won't say what I think about your lame comment but hey you do you.
This is a question that makes very obvious the double standards in our society: a man wanting a virgin woman is an evil creep, while a woman wanting a virgin man is her right. Now, to your question: the reason why many men want a virgin woman is the same as why many women get very excited about virgin men: because they can "educate" the virgin person to please their own sexual desires and they also like the idea of being the first sexual partner in another person's life.
Sounds fair because I understand what you're talking about. I'm turned on by virgin men or by those with short experience. I'm getting very intrigued by the reasons why a man (a natural hunter) would have so much patience
I understand it. Men like to impress and to show someone something she's never seen before. It's also a great honor if a girl chooses you for her first. A guy shouldn't look for that though, and certainly shouldn't think less of anyone based on sexual history. Unless she had sex with Tucker Carlson - that's a deal breaker.
Let's just say a woman being a virgin is the ultimate violation for a guy's pleasure and believe me it's terrible. That's why they consider it so rare especially when that girl doesn't know the guy and he s peer pressuring her to do things that she has no idea what she's doing and eventually oh God is super horrible talk about it.
Nowadays yes it’s rare lol so yes I can see her being treasured knowing he was her one and only but the thing with virgins is once they realize how amazing sex is, they tend to want to experiment more and try others, so it’s very rare that a virgin will stay faithful to just one person sadly to say , I had a few virgin girls virginities away and once they got bored of me they moved on and then trying to get me back , of course I said no way in hell
Because she is picky with guys but if a guy does score one he’s feels extremely special. Also she seemingly will be less likely to cheat if we do get in a relationship.
All of the above may or may not be true. Personally I only deflowered one girl in my life. I don’t recall that being an extremely pleasurable experience for either one of us despite having expectations otherwise.
First and foremost it’s just gross. Secondly it takes away from the specialness of having sex with her myself in that it makes me feel like I’m not special to her, and makes her feel less special to me. Lastly it’s a red flag that she had previous sexual relationships which failed.
I could understand a woman asking that question, but how do you not just feel this instinctively as a guy?
You know that you are not the one sucking another dude's dick right? She did it. Time passed, she washed her teeth, took a bath, no trace of that dude anywhere. To each their own, but I don't think it's less special with me if she did it with someone else. It's just sex. Sex is not a big deal. Is literally the most natural thing there is.
Having a previous relationship that failed is normal. Is very very normal. They fail for a no number of reasons. And sex is part of relationships. Nothing to do about that.
Because I had virgins before. Two to be exact. One was a serious relationship. They were by far the worst sex I had. Being virgins made them worse in bed and didn't made them better as people compared to the others. Being a virgin is not a total dealbreaker, but there is nothing special about it.
If a girl has never had a penis inside her, then she won't have any other penises to compare the size to, maybe? or they won't have any other encounters to compare their performance with? I, honestly, think it's bullshit. If I meet a 25 year old or older woman who is a virgin, I'll jump straight to the conclusion that there is a social or sexual health problem.
No offence but your genitalia doesn't make you special, I would be more concerned with what kind of person I was rather than weather I have a flap of useless tissue still intact.
@MelaninQueen21 you really are a rare gem and quite clearly @Subarugirl is some washed up shit that have been used up and now has difficulty and is now jealous of you, don't listen to her cause you truly are a gem
@lambrini honey, my husband, our son and I are happy and thriving. My biggest issues right now is where to send my son to school and weather we want to have a 3 or 4 bedroom house built, but I do so appreciate your concern..
@lambrini There are girls around the world, like me, who are a virgin, as well as a lip virgin (never kissed). Saving that for someone special is not rare, but not common.
because a virgin girl is special. I am against having sexual intercourse before marriage. but in many countries, especially in America, girls have sex even though they are not married. that means she was touched by another man before me. I do not want like this. The woman I will marry must be a virgin. that's why finding a virgin girl is becoming a rarity now.
This is what makes it repressive. I'd rather give in to fornication and when I meet God I'lll say "well, I have been dealt living among crap circumstances and I wanted to get some taste of romantic love".
So why couldn't I plead mercy with him because of the time I was born that at my stage right now marriage is a corrupted institution, I may have wanted a stable monogamous partner who is loyal, but that doesn't exist anymore. It is my only way I will at least get a crumb of the best deal I can get in modernity society. If not, then I don't think that is a merciful God. Even most women around my age of faith fornicate and guys are more the ones missing out. Do you think God wanted sexuality and relationships to be like the status quo we see today?
He could've foreseen it too, but is continuing to allow Satan to have his way, only for him to retire the concept of sexuality and relationships like that when we get to see him or when Christ returns?
I think God is ambiguous and vague no matter what people may say or how they try to spin it. Sorry, I can't take that "but God is not x..." anymore, I see how our world works today from down here.
@KlinkyCoder yes, Allah is Most Forgiving, but forbids adultery. so he won't accept your excuse. Man is a willed being. He can avoid this mistake of his own free will.
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Because if she can guard her virtue, she can guard her household and be trustworthy?
Also, it's more about aligning values than simply virginity. No guy wants to find a dozen step kids in the woodwork, nor does he want to deal with a mental train wreck "abortion mama" who was sleeping around and punishing her unborn kids for it.
I was with you until you said unborn kids. They're not kids if they haven't been born. And you can't punish something that doesn't exist
@Spencer754 When a mother gets pregnant, it's automatically a child although most don't consider it a child until around 5-6 weeks when the baby has a heartbeat.
I don't believe in abortion and I think that babies should have a chance at life whether Mom planned them or not. Children are a gift from God and you are lucky if He chooses you to be a mother to His special angel He gave to you.
Sure. Thats why God decides to put those "angels" into foster homes if they're lucky. And the unlucky ones get to be assaulted or worse. Then when they grow up and commit crimes due to the lack of love they receive, it's usually people like you that are the first to say they should be killed or locked up for life
@Spencer754 God didn't decide to put them in adoption centers or foster families, their parents did. I am a good person and I believe every child deserves a chance at life. My aunt just adopted two little girls not too long ago am a Christian and I don't care what you think about my beliefs. You don't like it, DEAL WITH IT!
So why can't you deal with my beliefs then?
@Spencer754 Because I think anybody who believes in abortion and babies not being a kids until there born should be blown off the face of the Earth and spend the rest of eternity in the underworld
This coming from an "all loving" christian?
@Spencer754 yes, my parents believe that too
Thought Jesus taught love and forgiveness?
@Spencer754 We still don't beleive in abortion
No. You guys just want people who believe in womens rights to go to hell
@Spencer754 abortion is MURDER
Only if ignorant people win will it be considered murder
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@Spencer754 You're confused. I'm talking about the woman losing her virginity and falling pregnant being a step further from that. Doesn't matter if it's aborted, still born or born - it's still medically regarded as a child. You must be simple minded if you don't understand that premature births and c-sections are a thing? Not every kid is just born, and ultrasound scans are not magically taking pictures of things that don't exist.
Not at all. And which medical opinion are you going off of? If you think a mass of cells is a child then the only ignorant one here is you.
Because then she wasn't promiscuous, is more likely to see sex as part of a special emotional bond and not something to do casually purely for physical pleasure. Also she wouldn't have kids from another guy already. I think those would be the main reasons.
When I was young and inexperienced I thought virgins were very appealing because their inexperience made them less intimating and I had this naive belief that two people fell in love and were together for ever.
But after 22 or so I quickly changed my mind, and honestly I would never want to be a virgins first at this point in my life.
I think it's weird and I am a virgin by the way.
It's weird because we aren't a treasure and my vagina should be just as precious as any other women's vagina. People have sex (or don't) for all kinds of reasons and if a man is going to look at me very differently depending on whether I am a virgin or not makes me feel very uncomfortable and questioning his intentions.
If it's from a sexual experience, then OK that's fun. I would love for an experienced guy to teach me.
I mean I'm not going to treasure the vagina of a prostitute. I wouldn't even touch one for free lol. And when a vagina has contracted STDs believe me it's ummm less valuable lets just say. And I would hope girls think the same of a penis with the same circumstances. :P
I don’t know lol
Called out LOL obviously a clean unused pussy is more valuable
Not to mention the emotional baggage ur avoiding... a girl ready to bond is miles better than one who’s been breaking bonds for years
@Shamalien Right just like a clean unused dick is more valuable
@Subarugirl I wish that was the case but I keep reading girls dont value a virgin guy or a guy with a low body count. I've honestly had numerous opportunities but practiced discipline and restraint. I dont see why that should be frowned upon. Not say that's the case with either of you two ladies. But I've read lots of women say they would never date a guy without lots of sexual experience. I just can't jump in bed like that. I need the connection and bond first. And the girls that wanted to jump in bed like that... yeah they werent looking for such things. And because I knew their whole dating history from in school I was repulsed. I would think like "man it's like banging him and him and him too". Even if that's not the case it felt weird to me. Its quite possibly different if you are strangers or something and you haven't seen all those other faces she's been with. Definitely became jaded for many year about the existence of love because of it too. But I realized I came up in a low income area and statistics show that economics can factor into such things.
It's definitely rare although not sure about the treasure part.
Don't get me wrong I have nothing but respect to women who are not socially swayed to have sex with 100 guys before the age 25 but the trade-off is that they have no experience and their body is not used to penetration which makes it every uncomfortable.
So the sex itself isn't amazing but the person can be a decent person who's a blast to hanagout with
But whats the big deal? Just fuck her 50x and she's just as good as any other girl... if not better because she's learned exactly how to do it with you.
Sure that would work but I am simply pointing out that a virgin girl isn't a rare treasure sexually.
Plus having slept with one I can tell you it's not an enjoyable experience. But you have a point do it often enough and you two will have an amazing dynamic although the same can be said of anyone
I dont think so. I've been with a few virgins and after fucking them a lot they basically were all better than all the other girls because we shared the exact same desires for sex. They learned exactly what i liked and learned to like exactly the same thing too. Other non virgins often have fantasies and things that dont align with what i want because they learned them from other men. Ie one girl was accustomed to fingering her exs ass as he came. Where i do not like such a thing.
Hahahaha well that sucks luckily I never had anyone go near my rear end and it's gonna stay that way. But I definitely get your point
Do you think if you loved her it would’ve been a more enjoyable experience? With virgins you just got to give them time lol
I did of course. It doesn't matter that I wasn't in live, I'm always a gentleman and I did some extra effort since it was her first. And sure the sex was ok but when you're used to someone who's experienced you feel the level of difference
Well, most girls aren't virgins, so they factually are rare. They are treasured because no other man has been with them, which is naturally appealing. What I think of it? Yeah, sure, I'd prefer to date a virgin, but I recognize that isn't likely at my age. And I'd rather date a girl who is open to sex than one who isn't, which makes dating a virgin even more unlikely. So I think it's ultimately not worth worrying over too much. Too knit-picky, y'know? No one's perfect.
Maybe because they have something of value. A virgin girl could easily lose her virginity like some girls, but instead she has something the other girl can never have back.
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@michelleb17 yeah
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@michelleb17 yeah sure
Because I’m society rather than sex being seen as a mutual thing sex is seen as something that is “done” to a woman rather than involving two consenting parties. Which is why men are praised for having high body counts and women are shamed for it, it’s also why male victims of SA aren’t taken seriously, why make virgins are seen as “losers”, and why women that are virgins for “too long” are seen as prudes
Stuff like that shouldn’t be stigmatized
If all of that is cultural as opposed to biological, then why are there no exceptions?
There are cultures where it’s different so I’m not sure what you mean by no exceptions
Name one.
@David_Kek Isn't Biblical (2.3 billion people are Christians) view of relationship between man and woman all about both of them being part of each other? If I remember correctly there is a passage about each of partners being responsible for needs of the other instead of just taking what they need themselves.
But I suppose that is also social/cultural instead of biological.
@Mango-man It also says in the bible you should kill anyone, yet that hasn't seemed to stop them from that either.
In the 21st century it is rare, there are girls 12 years old having sex. What's also rare is women that are over age 30 that don't have children.
@caligirlbh
there are some girls over 30 that dont have children
Wtf does a 42 year old know about the 21st century lmao. Most girls don’t make the first move hence most are virgins however compared to males that’s nothing. There are a lot more male virgins than female. That’s just common sense.
@Nades You can laugh your ass off all you want but what does my age have to do with this question? I won't say what I think about your lame comment but hey you do you.
This is a question that makes very obvious the double standards in our society: a man wanting a virgin woman is an evil creep, while a woman wanting a virgin man is her right. Now, to your question: the reason why many men want a virgin woman is the same as why many women get very excited about virgin men: because they can "educate" the virgin person to please their own sexual desires and they also like the idea of being the first sexual partner in another person's life.
Sounds fair because I understand what you're talking about. I'm turned on by virgin men or by those with short experience. I'm getting very intrigued by the reasons why a man (a natural hunter) would have so much patience
I understand it. Men like to impress and to show someone something she's never seen before. It's also a great honor if a girl chooses you for her first. A guy shouldn't look for that though, and certainly shouldn't think less of anyone based on sexual history. Unless she had sex with Tucker Carlson - that's a deal breaker.
exactly
Let's just say a woman being a virgin is the ultimate violation for a guy's pleasure and believe me it's terrible. That's why they consider it so rare especially when that girl doesn't know the guy and he s peer pressuring her to do things that she has no idea what she's doing and eventually oh God is super horrible talk about it.
Nowadays yes it’s rare lol so yes I can see her being treasured knowing he was her one and only but the thing with virgins is once they realize how amazing sex is, they tend to want to experiment more and try others, so it’s very rare that a virgin will stay faithful to just one person sadly to say , I had a few virgin girls virginities away and once they got bored of me they moved on and then trying to get me back , of course I said no way in hell
Just pure stupidity! Your virginity is in no way a measurement for innocence, you can still be a bitch amk
By typing the last word above you already classify yourself as non-innocence or non-pure no matter what happens , kinda funny and ironic though ;)
Because she is picky with guys but if a guy does score one he’s feels extremely special. Also she seemingly will be less likely to cheat if we do get in a relationship.
All of the above may or may not be true. Personally I only deflowered one girl in my life. I don’t recall that being an extremely pleasurable experience for either one of us despite having expectations otherwise.
Why would I prefer a woman who’s already fucked some other guy? Why would I prefer kissing a woman who’s had some other man’s dick in her mouth?
How is this even a question?
What difference does it make?
First and foremost it’s just gross. Secondly it takes away from the specialness of having sex with her myself in that it makes me feel like I’m not special to her, and makes her feel less special to me. Lastly it’s a red flag that she had previous sexual relationships which failed.
I could understand a woman asking that question, but how do you not just feel this instinctively as a guy?
You know that you are not the one sucking another dude's dick right? She did it. Time passed, she washed her teeth, took a bath, no trace of that dude anywhere.
To each their own, but I don't think it's less special with me if she did it with someone else. It's just sex. Sex is not a big deal. Is literally the most natural thing there is.
Having a previous relationship that failed is normal. Is very very normal. They fail for a no number of reasons. And sex is part of relationships. Nothing to do about that.
Because I had virgins before. Two to be exact. One was a serious relationship. They were by far the worst sex I had.
Being virgins made them worse in bed and didn't made them better as people compared to the others. Being a virgin is not a total dealbreaker, but there is nothing special about it.
“Sex is not a big deal.”
This is the key difference between us. Sex is a big deal to me.
Totally respect that. Again to each their own.
If a girl has never had a penis inside her, then she won't have any other penises to compare the size to, maybe? or they won't have any other encounters to compare their performance with?
I, honestly, think it's bullshit. If I meet a 25 year old or older woman who is a virgin, I'll jump straight to the conclusion that there is a social or sexual health problem.
I'm a 21 year old virgin and proud! I am a rare gem.
I can assure you that not having sex does not make you a rare gem lol
@Subarugirl Oh, but I am whether you like and agree with it or not!
No offence but your genitalia doesn't make you special, I would be more concerned with what kind of person I was rather than weather I have a flap of useless tissue still intact.
@MelaninQueen21 you really are a rare gem and quite clearly @Subarugirl is some washed up shit that have been used up and now has difficulty and is now jealous of you, don't listen to her cause you truly are a gem
@lambrini honey, my husband, our son and I are happy and thriving. My biggest issues right now is where to send my son to school and weather we want to have a 3 or 4 bedroom house built, but I do so appreciate your concern..
@Subarugirl sweetie, maybe actually start living instead of making up fantasies
@Subarugirl that's one of the things (besides being a virgin) that makes me special and unique. I'm waiting til marriage.
@lambrini There are girls around the world, like me, who are a virgin, as well as a lip virgin (never kissed). Saving that for someone special is not rare, but not common.
@lambrini but thank you for your positive statement 🙏🏽
@lambrini oh what? You don’t like the idea that a woman who didn’t “save her self” for marriage could have a happy a successful life?
A true queen speaking
@swettannie thank you 😊
I'm only saying the truth. Your nickname is just perfect
Honestly for me it's kind of rare treasure to get a girl virgin... It's not like in judging but it want to lose my virginity to a virgin girl
because a virgin girl is special. I am against having sexual intercourse before marriage. but in many countries, especially in America, girls have sex even though they are not married. that means she was touched by another man before me. I do not want like this. The woman I will marry must be a virgin. that's why finding a virgin girl is becoming a rarity now.
It is repressive.
@Smartman5, very difficult to find virgin girl in USA
@Zygum Yeah
This is what makes it repressive. I'd rather give in to fornication and when I meet God I'lll say "well, I have been dealt living among crap circumstances and I wanted to get some taste of romantic love".
@KlinkyCoder God will not accept your excuse.
So why couldn't I plead mercy with him because of the time I was born that at my stage right now marriage is a corrupted institution, I may have wanted a stable monogamous partner who is loyal, but that doesn't exist anymore. It is my only way I will at least get a crumb of the best deal I can get in modernity society. If not, then I don't think that is a merciful God. Even most women around my age of faith fornicate and guys are more the ones missing out. Do you think God wanted sexuality and relationships to be like the status quo we see today?
He could've foreseen it too, but is continuing to allow Satan to have his way, only for him to retire the concept of sexuality and relationships like that when we get to see him or when Christ returns?
I think God is ambiguous and vague no matter what people may say or how they try to spin it. Sorry, I can't take that "but God is not x..." anymore, I see how our world works today from down here.
@KlinkyCoder yes, Allah is Most Forgiving, but forbids adultery. so he won't accept your excuse. Man is a willed being. He can avoid this mistake of his own free will.
I don't worship Allah. I believe in Yahweh and Jesus.
@KlinkyCoder but the only god is Allah. all people are servants. We will all pass his test in the afterlife.