Probably because younger women having children out of wedlock is not unheard of if not literally pandemic for that demographic, and that means 99% that she has been with some guy before. The more children and/or different guys she has been with, the worse it feels. If she only had a single child from a guy, I can let this slide.
I feel that it is highly respectable for a woman to keep her virginity until marriage and it shows how well-rounded a person can be to actually have morals' this day and age.
@Subarugirl why can't a man desire to be with a woman who chose to save herself for the right man. what if she is okay with being with a non virgin man?
@Subarugirl but it is their personal choice. Would you judge women who choose to sleep around? No, right? Because it's their personal choice although their one night stands might be taken men.
@Subarugirl ok. Then I agree with you. I have talked about this to many women. They said he shouldn't appreciate that he us my first man lol. That is why I brought it up here to see if you think like them.
@Subarugirl Exactly, it should be valued as a moral rather than a fetish. I think a fetish for it is actually degrading and more creepy sounding in my own opinion. I also feel that virginity should be held with high respect for the individual this day and age!.
Or maybe, research has shown that the less sexual partners someone has, the better the chances of having a better relationship? There is a correlation between the two. Why The Number of Sexual Partners Matters ↗
Why be with a nasty whore? Every girl you kiss had a guys dick in it and possibly this cum. That's gross. Her vagina is so worn out and being in someone who has had other guys in it is gross. When you eat her out you're basically putting another guys dick in your mouth. gross.
I have to wonder if the types that say "every girl" is using hyperbole or not, I don't know where you live but several girls in my area at least seem to be "normal" and down-to-earth.
Intimacy is something but like people have told me that if they found the perfect girl in all ways except she has slept with over 5 guys they would reject her. I dont understand that lol
Because it is a number of reasons. The innocence of her, the absolute knowledge that she has no sexually transmitted diseases. There is no kids to worry about, and you can connect in a way no one else can. Plus it seems that virgin girls are more rare to find now more than ever.
Because many women nowadays like to get into relationships via hookups, where virgins are more likely to get to know a person before sex... granted there are guys out there who don't understand female anatomy or how a vagina works, so they believe "a virgin is tighter"
Depends where you live in the world. In China and Asia I remember I would find virgins girls had become common.
And I slept with few of them. Because in South Asia the ratio of girls is so high and there are so many horny loser men. Girls dont wanna sleep with them. And they dont like ASia men.
Because girls act like sluts, particularly younger ones, and you assume the older ones past the twenty mark have already done it. And it seems most girls don't broadcast it even if they are a virgin, possibly due to embarrassment.
As a virgin i can say i feel they fetishize us and think we are not whores and they have something unique to take. That’s not the case at all cause every girl is a virgin for her own reasons not to be a “trophy” it could be religious, personal... etc. I choose to be a virgin because of trauma from childhood that definitely does not mean i wanna be a trophy for anyone.
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As it is rare in western world, a lot of girls these days lose it at 14 or earlier and feminazis put it to you as liberation or whatever they call it today...
Treasure as it was norm traditionally.
In my opinion it is overrated as a lot of girls go on f**ing spree after loosing it... and why I would like to train her, when I can get qualified candidate? Obviously do not forget that such thing as overqualified exist too.
They see virginity as a physical thing which is an issue in and of itself. I think that leads to them seeing it as something to seek or obtain as a prize. It's also just hyper stigmatized in media.
Because most of them imagine they're chad thundercock and their magical and whimsical wiener is going to make their virgin partner commit to them for all eternity.
Guys like to groom girls so they are precisely the sexual creature they want and I suppose guus imagine this is easier if she doesn't already know what she likes.
"why do some men think a girl is a rare treasure if she has not had intimacy with other men?" simply because they don't want their girl to have been fucked by other men as they view her as special and they value intimacy with her.
Thats another restatement of the question. The question is "why don't they want their girl to have been fucked by other men." Thats what i answered. I guess i dont understand what the confusion is about.
Because they view their girl and the intimacy with her as special. Why would a man want his woman to have had the most intimate thing with other men if she is special to him?
Some men don't care about that sort of thing or have otherwise disregarded it as a priority. What I was saying is, of those who do maintain that priority, the reasoning behind may be of wanting to have full control of how the woman is "imprinted."
I don't think we're arguing the same thing, here. You keep emphasizing what some men want. I'm trying to explain why they want it. Our statements are not mutually exclusive.
I know. I only added another reason. A man who thinks his woman is special appreciates her sexual intimacy with him. And definitely doesn't wish she shared it with other guys.
But that's not really a reason, that's just another way of describing a virgin - not having shared sexual intimacy with other guys is what a virgin is. The question was "why a virgin" not "what is a virgin." And while the difference between why and what do tend to run up against each other, there's rarely any gray area betwixt them.
Wanting a virgin over a non virgin means the man is disgusted by the idea of touching a woman other men have. The man wants his intimacy with her be exclusively about him. He feels less of a man thinking his woman chose other men to have the most intimate thing. I am only explaining to you what about female virginity turns men on.
What a virgin is itself explain tge appeal of being with a virgin. She is untouched. The VERY idea of being with an untouched person turns on some men.
I don't think guys necissarily want their women to have had sex with other men. I think as men get older they just kind of grow out of caring about that sort of thing.
I suppose I don't recall what I found attractive about virgins when I was young. But at my age a virgin seems more a hassle than anything, as I should expect to spend months seducing them, which almost seems childish. I'd gladly take a girl with a sexual history that i could seduce within an hour of meeting her over a girl with no sexual history who wants to keep it that way for several years. It's like the "bird in the hand" expression. The only appeal is the thought that she is eager to learn to like exactly what I want her to like and that might not even end up being the case.
Of course not. I like steak but don't regularly visit butcheries to watch the process of how it's made. I get that there is a lot of burying my head in the sand going on, but if it means the girl I'm with isn't going to spend a year arguing with herself about some vague notions of purity, I'm fine with it.
It doesn't turn me off but nor does it turn me on. It's simply none of my business. If I was super insecure I might dwell on it and let it eat away at me, but I guess I'm just not.
Not wanting your special girl to have shared the most intimate thing doesn't make you insecure. By your logic if a man doesn't want to share his woman with other men is insecure.
Thats not my logic at all. I'm talking about sexual history. I. e. before they were together. Not sure if you're a girl who is super proud of her virginity and demands other be proud of it, too, or if you're a guy who is trying very hard not to be judged because he is too insecure to accept a non virgin. In either case it seems like you're trying to misunderstand me.
Like whomever you want. I only wanted to say that it is absolutely fine for the man not to want his special girl to have sexual intimacy with other men. This is not jealousy or insecurity. This is vauing the relationship.
The same reason why a man doesn't want to share his woman with others is the same reason why he wouldn't want his woman to have had sex with other men before him. I'm not saying they are the same thing. I am saying both show he values her intimacy with him and wants it to be exclusively with him.
If I were a man I would still want a virgin. There is not one reason why I would be turned on by the idea of making love to a eoman whom other men banged.
I didn't say it wasn't fine. The question was "why" and I tried to answer it. This was never intended to be a criticism - just a description as objectively as I could state it. If that came across as criticism it may be that you aren't being entirely honest with yourself. It could also be that I didn't choose my words as carefully as I could have, though..
Maybe some do. I don't know. Some that just doesn't want the modern woman who rides the C. Carousel and sleeps around. Some just don't want that girl and in western society there are fewer and fewer that are not like that girl.
The more a woman sleeps around. The greater chance kids are not your kids. Women don't have to worry about that. All kids are THEIR kids but for the male... you could be raising another's kid and you didn't reproduce anything... you aren't passing on your lineage.
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Why would any man want his woman to have had dicks in her?
Why would any woman want a man that has fucked other women...…..
Probably because younger women having children out of wedlock is not unheard of if not literally pandemic for that demographic, and that means 99% that she has been with some guy before. The more children and/or different guys she has been with, the worse it feels. If she only had a single child from a guy, I can let this slide.
Because child like innocence and virginity is fetishized
I feel that it is highly respectable for a woman to keep her virginity until marriage and it shows how well-rounded a person can be to actually have morals' this day and age.
Men who want that should do the same though
@Subarugirl I agree 100%.
@Subarugirl why can't a man desire to be with a woman who chose to save herself for the right man. what if she is okay with being with a non virgin man?
@marish01 because it’s hypocritical to hold someone to a standard you at self aren’t willing to meet
@Subarugirl but it is their personal choice. Would you judge women who choose to sleep around? No, right? Because it's their personal choice although their one night stands might be taken men.
@marish01 I’m not judging women to decide to save themselves for marriage. I’m judge hypocrites and men who fetishized virginity
@Subarugirl I'm a virgin. What should my first man who is not a virgin think of my virginity for you not to judge him?
@marish01 respect your choice and not fetishize you for it
@Subarugirl Respect that because it's just a choice of mine?
Should he not appreciate that I chose him to be the special man?
@marish01 I didn't say anything about how it shouldn't be appreciated, I said that it shouldn't be fetishized
@Subarugirl ok. Then I agree with you. I have talked about this to many women. They said he shouldn't appreciate that he us my first man lol. That is why I brought it up here to see if you think like them.
@Subarugirl Exactly, it should be valued as a moral rather than a fetish. I think a fetish for it is actually degrading and more creepy sounding in my own opinion. I also feel that virginity should be held with high respect for the individual this day and age!.
Because most females are whores today & you know that. So of course it would be rare to find a virgin over say age 21. Not impossible tho.
That said, her character still matters. If she WANTS to be a whore then she might as well be one.
Because it's a fetish. Innocence and virginity is easily fetishised and then held to a higher status for some men.
Bullshit. Innocence means lasting relationship, good mother, good wife. Just because someone can be a slut, it is not good to normalize it.
Or maybe, research has shown that the less sexual partners someone has, the better the chances of having a better relationship? There is a correlation between the two.
Why The Number of Sexual Partners Matters ↗
It's still a fetish regardless of all that.
@ninani That may be for some, but in general, the information provided in my Take that I've shared with you applies.
Why be with a nasty whore? Every girl you kiss had a guys dick in it and possibly this cum. That's gross. Her vagina is so worn out and being in someone who has had other guys in it is gross. When you eat her out you're basically putting another guys dick in your mouth. gross.
I have to wonder if the types that say "every girl" is using hyperbole or not, I don't know where you live but several girls in my area at least seem to be "normal" and down-to-earth.
That's such a childish way of looking at it 🙄
@zaharuh but why would any man want his wife to have had other men before him?
Well like people put way too much value on virginity and so what if she has.
@zaharuh so what? Like intimacy is nothing?
Intimacy is something but like people have told me that if they found the perfect girl in all ways except she has slept with over 5 guys they would reject her. I dont understand that lol
@zaharuh how is she perfect? Lol
I said in all ways except that
@zaharuh she can't have the same morals and family values as a girl who waits.
They can have the same family values and similar morals like what
Because it is a number of reasons. The innocence of her, the absolute knowledge that she has no sexually transmitted diseases. There is no kids to worry about, and you can connect in a way no one else can. Plus it seems that virgin girls are more rare to find now more than ever.
Because it is indeed. After a certain age it’s easier find a non-virgin than a virgin.
Because many women nowadays like to get into relationships via hookups, where virgins are more likely to get to know a person before sex... granted there are guys out there who don't understand female anatomy or how a vagina works, so they believe "a virgin is tighter"
Depends where you live in the world.
In China and Asia I remember I would find virgins girls had become common.
And I slept with few of them. Because in South Asia the ratio of girls is so high and there are so many horny loser men.
Girls dont wanna sleep with them. And they dont like ASia men.
Because girls act like sluts, particularly younger ones, and you assume the older ones past the twenty mark have already done it. And it seems most girls don't broadcast it even if they are a virgin, possibly due to embarrassment.
You've written down my thoughts, word for word, man. Like this.
Some of us are actually good girls.
@Callous_Capricorn99 I thank you for it.
As a virgin i can say i feel they fetishize us and think we are not whores and they have something unique to take. That’s not the case at all cause every girl is a virgin for her own reasons not to be a “trophy” it could be religious, personal... etc. I choose to be a virgin because of trauma from childhood that definitely does not mean i wanna be a trophy for anyone.
As it is rare in western world, a lot of girls these days lose it at 14 or earlier and feminazis put it to you as liberation or whatever they call it today...
Treasure as it was norm traditionally.
In my opinion it is overrated as a lot of girls go on f**ing spree after loosing it... and why I would like to train her, when I can get qualified candidate? Obviously do not forget that such thing as overqualified exist too.
What do you even mean by train her lol
Enjoy a detailed explanation to your question:
Why The Number of Sexual Partners Matters
They see virginity as a physical thing which is an issue in and of itself. I think that leads to them seeing it as something to seek or obtain as a prize. It's also just hyper stigmatized in media.
Because most of them imagine they're chad thundercock and their magical and whimsical wiener is going to make their virgin partner commit to them for all eternity.
Kind of dumb when you think it about it that way.
Guys like to groom girls so they are precisely the sexual creature they want and I suppose guus imagine this is easier if she doesn't already know what she likes.
Or simply because they don't want their special girl to have had intimacy with other men.
Right, but the question was "why"
My comment answered "why"
To paraphrase, the question was "why do some men think a girl is a rare treasure if she has not had intimacy with other men?"
In other words, you repeated the question but in other words.
"why do some men think a girl is a rare treasure if she has not had intimacy with other men?"
simply because they don't want their girl to have been fucked by other men as they view her as special and they value intimacy with her.
Thats another restatement of the question. The question is "why don't they want their girl to have been fucked by other men." Thats what i answered. I guess i dont understand what the confusion is about.
Because they view their girl and the intimacy with her as special.
Why would a man want his woman to have had the most intimate thing with other men if she is special to him?
Some men don't care about that sort of thing or have otherwise disregarded it as a priority. What I was saying is, of those who do maintain that priority, the reasoning behind may be of wanting to have full control of how the woman is "imprinted."
But pretending that it is the same thing whether your woman shared your desired intimacy with other men or not is the same thing is foolish.
I believe if a man views her as special he will view intimacy with her as special too. Definitely not something unspecial that any man could get.
I don't think we're arguing the same thing, here. You keep emphasizing what some men want. I'm trying to explain why they want it. Our statements are not mutually exclusive.
I know. I only added another reason. A man who thinks his woman is special appreciates her sexual intimacy with him. And definitely doesn't wish she shared it with other guys.
But that's not really a reason, that's just another way of describing a virgin - not having shared sexual intimacy with other guys is what a virgin is. The question was "why a virgin" not "what is a virgin." And while the difference between why and what do tend to run up against each other, there's rarely any gray area betwixt them.
Why would a man not to want his woman to have sex with other men?
Just answer
Wanting a virgin over a non virgin means the man is disgusted by the idea of touching a woman other men have. The man wants his intimacy with her be exclusively about him. He feels less of a man thinking his woman chose other men to have the most intimate thing.
I am only explaining to you what about female virginity turns men on.
What a virgin is itself explain tge appeal of being with a virgin.
She is untouched. The VERY idea of being with an untouched person turns on some men.
I don't think guys necissarily want their women to have had sex with other men. I think as men get older they just kind of grow out of caring about that sort of thing.
I suppose I don't recall what I found attractive about virgins when I was young. But at my age a virgin seems more a hassle than anything, as I should expect to spend months seducing them, which almost seems childish. I'd gladly take a girl with a sexual history that i could seduce within an hour of meeting her over a girl with no sexual history who wants to keep it that way for several years. It's like the "bird in the hand" expression. The only appeal is the thought that she is eager to learn to like exactly what I want her to like and that might not even end up being the case.
Do you like the idea that she has sex with other men? Does it her body more desirable?
As for seducing it depends on her feelings for you.
Of course not. I like steak but don't regularly visit butcheries to watch the process of how it's made. I get that there is a lot of burying my head in the sand going on, but if it means the girl I'm with isn't going to spend a year arguing with herself about some vague notions of purity, I'm fine with it.
So the idea turns you off?
I guess you compared your woman with a cow
It doesn't turn me off but nor does it turn me on. It's simply none of my business. If I was super insecure I might dwell on it and let it eat away at me, but I guess I'm just not.
It was an analogy chosen because everyone understands food. I could do a sports analogy instead, if you prefer.
Not wanting your special girl to have shared the most intimate thing doesn't make you insecure.
By your logic if a man doesn't want to share his woman with other men is insecure.
I could use food analogy too. Would you want to eat the food that another men chewed and spitted?
Lol
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Thats not my logic at all. I'm talking about sexual history. I. e. before they were together. Not sure if you're a girl who is super proud of her virginity and demands other be proud of it, too, or if you're a guy who is trying very hard not to be judged because he is too insecure to accept a non virgin. In either case it seems like you're trying to misunderstand me.
Like whomever you want. I only wanted to say that it is absolutely fine for the man not to want his special girl to have sexual intimacy with other men. This is not jealousy or insecurity. This is vauing the relationship.
The same reason why a man doesn't want to share his woman with others is the same reason why he wouldn't want his woman to have had sex with other men before him.
I'm not saying they are the same thing. I am saying both show he values her intimacy with him and wants it to be exclusively with him.
If I were a man I would still want a virgin. There is not one reason why I would be turned on by the idea of making love to a eoman whom other men banged.
I didn't say it wasn't fine. The question was "why" and I tried to answer it. This was never intended to be a criticism - just a description as objectively as I could state it. If that came across as criticism it may be that you aren't being entirely honest with yourself. It could also be that I didn't choose my words as carefully as I could have, though..
No it's fine. I enjoyed our convo. I only wanted to add another reason why some men want virgins.
I support everyone's right to have preferences.
Fair enough.
Maybe some do. I don't know.
Some that just doesn't want the modern woman who rides the C. Carousel and sleeps around.
Some just don't want that girl and in western society there are fewer and fewer that are not like that girl.
Oh, and ps.
The more a woman sleeps around. The greater chance kids are not your kids.
Women don't have to worry about that. All kids are THEIR kids but for the male... you could be raising another's kid and you didn't reproduce anything... you aren't passing on your lineage.
Its a common missconcepton. I used to think that, when I was younger. All that bollocks like, I am the first one, I will take her virginity away etc.
Now that I am older I would much rather prefer experience 😊