Why is women wanting men with money or a solid good income an issue for men? (Page 3)

[BaldAvenger]

It leads us to think that they are money driven, not love driven.

[AndrésC64]

Who said that it is an issue for men? And why does it have to be the guy that pays?

[Leoxen]

Because sometimes all they do is show us that they are with a man because of those things and not because of love.

[Anonymous]

Because you can't be trusted. Most of you women sugarcoat your intentions. Money is the biggest incentive for why you commit to a man in the first place. No sane man wants to deal with a woman who's mostly with him because of how much he makes.

[Anonymous]

My problem is with women who ask for money as a condition of going out with me. What are you, an escort?

[Aerissa_Jade]

Wow, I've never even heard of that. That is crazy, like what you ask them on a date and they say sure, if you pay me?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes. They usually say send me $30.

[Shamalien]

Those are not decent women, they are bots or scammers

[fjb2021]

Truth be told, gold diggers are the difference between Trump, and Biden diddling his daughter.

[anon_boy]

Well, not an issue but girls who look like shit and wants a rich and handsome guy that's an issue

[noohair]

Because the definition of good and solid differ between men and women.

[Shiningtempest]

Some men see women wanting men with money or a solid good income as a gold digger.

[joshctlee]

The best woman don’t care about those materialistic qualities

[Anonymous]

If he doesn't pay for my food, he doesn't get head.

[David_Kek]

What's your rates? Asking for a friend.

[HighValue]

So you are basically admitting to being a prostitute. Intimacy in exchange for a financial benefit.

[Anonymous]

I’m all in if my future partner is coming for my financial status.
As long as I find her attractive.

[Anonymous]

I just want men to fuck me bad with his big dick 😝😝😝

[Anonymous]

Quite frankly men are through with the notion of an "equal partnership." It hasn't and never will work.

[Recurrence]

Because I’m poor and lonely

[Asker]

okay so because you’re poor and lonely, you would want a woman to do for you (have sex, maybe clean, have children, cook for you, support you, be loyal to you etc.) but you get a pass on typical man duties like providing?

[Curmudgeon]

Well, as I typed out, maybe, just MAYBE, he needs to be *encouraged*, since he sure as hell isn't getting any encouragement from the schools, the media, and sadly most workplaces today. It is amazing how many young ladies have no idea how much "The New Girl Order" is stacked in their favor. (Now as they age that changes, but they don't realize that until is is often sadly too late for them).

www.city-journal.org/.../new-girl-order-13042.html

[Asker]

so why do men need to be nurtured and encouraged for falling short of their responsibilities, but that same leverage is not given to women and women get ridiculed for it? i mean truly why are men entitled to this special treatment and leeway?

[Curmudgeon]

"so why do men need to be nurtured and encouraged for falling short of their responsibilities, but that same leverage is not given to women and women get ridiculed for it? i mean truly why are men entitled to this special treatment and leeway?"

And praytell, why SHOULD they "measure up to their responsibilities", when they don't get rewarded for it, and get passed over anyway (see 80/20 ratios above)? The payoffs have dropped off, and the burden is no longer worth carrying. To take from the title of a sadly too wordy but still thought provoking novel based upon a Greek myth, Atlas is shrugging. It's just not worth it for many men to hold up a jagged sky anymore.

[Recurrence]

I would like to mainly stay home and take care of the household upkeep. I make pottery and would like to adopt animals and take care of a garden. So I’m a virtuous gold digger, but I honestly live really small, so not a shitload of gold. And I don’t want children

[Asker]

the reward is not living in poverty and having a stable life for themselves. if they think they shouldn’t want that because there’s no “reward” (which i assume you mean relationships and women) then they have bigger problems they need to sort out. i’m not going into nursing knowing it’s a high paying career for a MAN. i’m going into it because i want to be stable and to financially support my future family (which in this day and age i can conceive without a man though that’s my last option). this “woe is me” mindset is probably why women are passing them up in the first place. we can subconsciously tell which situations aren’t good for us.

[Curmudgeon]

OK, well, to respond:

"the reward is not living in poverty and having a stable life for themselves."

Which all too often they can easily do on their own, it is providing for others which becomes the hard part, especially when the women they end up with are financial drains, and the odds are they WILL end up with financial drains. There is a reason more and more advertising of pricey schlock is aimed at women, namely, they are more willing to buy it, the occasional "man toys" here and there notwithstanding.

"if they think they shouldn’t want that because there’s no “reward” (which i assume you mean relationships and women) then they have bigger problems they need to sort out."

Sadly, then you just DO NOT understand what in days of yore WAS, and mostly still IS, a big motivator of men.

"i’m not going into nursing knowing it’s a high paying career for a MAN. i’m going into it because i want to be stable and to financially support my future family (which in this day and age i can conceive without a man though that’s my last option)."

Well, you are doing what you have to do, and I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. But many men have decided "not worth it" especially when the woman no longer uphold the traditional quid pro quo, and especially when the media and academia try to shame young men for their preferences, while bending over forwards to accommodate the preferences of young women no matter how fickle. Women who end marriages out of merely vague dissatisfaction abound, no matter how kind the guy is.

" this “woe is me” mindset is probably why women are passing them up in the first place. we can subconsciously tell which situations aren’t good for us."

Well, good luck chasing the dragon! You might well be in the top 20% (or whatever it is) tier too!

[Asker]

lol okay curmudgeon i see you’re trying to find ways for men to get sympathy trophies for their “efforts”. like i said in my other comment, men are more than welcome to choose to be alone as long as they are willing to accept that women don’t want anything to do with them if they’re not doing their responsibilities as a man, or creating an equal partnership. women are so tired of hearing these men throw tantrums and insult women, all because women won’t settle to do all the traditional women roles and go 50/50 on top of that because, like the other commenter said, they’re “broke and lonely”. once men process that, i think the sun will shine a little brighter :)

[Curmudgeon]

Gee, WHO began shaming WHO? Look at your very own question and answer that honestly.

And again, if you are that top tier woman who really deserves all that effort, good for you, I did acknowledge that you may very well be a goddess, remember? But most of the other women just plain *don't*.

[Asker]

also funny how you bring divorce into this subject. do you know majority of divorces filed by men are due to lack sex? so men want women to have sex with them whenever they want it but complain about providing? when men want women for sexual access and women want men for financial stability? i’m sure those women weren’t getting time patience encouragement and understand due to their “shortcomings” but when a man slips up it’s “support him”? let’s play some violins😂

[Asker]

i’m not shaming anyone at all. i’m just saying that both men and women need to start being realistic. let’s stop asking for 100% effort when we’re only putting in 50%. and let’s recognize that if you don’t put in, you will not get back.

[Asker]

but sides are extremely entitled. women think they’re entitled to money when they don’t deserve it. and men think they’re entitled to get sex, waste a woman’s youth, and impregnate a woman when they’re working at mcdonald’s hoping to find a woman to “support them” until they get promoted to mcdonald’s manager. both sides are out of their damn minds😂

[Anonymous]

Cause most men are lazy and broke.

[SecretGardenBlood65]

We love money than men

[SecretGardenBlood65]

This is the best question I've ever seen in my life. In addition, while they want women with beautiful physique, beautiful face, beautiful breasts and beautiful ass, women wanting rich makes men crazy.

[Juxtapose]

All I want is a woman who can get my dick hard and is more entertaining than my solitude. You really don't have to do much to reach that point, you can even be out of shape and still turn me on.

[Dchrls78104]

When feminists and golddiggers entered the arena.

[Asker]

this doesn’t answer the question but good to know :)

[FTnWo]

It shows just how shallow they are

[JohnHaley114]

So that they feel secured for life long.

[Jackba57]

It’s not. It’s smart.

[Cherry234]

@jackba57 I agree.

[Cherry234]

Only broke or insecure men have an issue with it.

[Sabretooth]

it just feels like that's all we are.

[MrTaboo]

Same as beauty is for women.

[barn_stormer]

it's not. it's normal. we want the same thing.

[driven159]

because it means money is more important than love

[Anonymous]

Because of the risk of being ruined by divorce

[JesseJayNeak]

Depends on the woman in question

[Anonymous]

everybody likes money I think

[EaterPeter]

For some men

[EaterPeter]

Thanks for like!

[Anonymous]

It’s for fake cunts