Why are men so unloyal these days?

[krista_b_berzina]

Please, men, give me your opinion

[CuriousJC]

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Girlfriend breaks up with me & destroys TV I got for her birthday because I refuse to take her to get her nails and feet done. The real reason why men are unloyal it's because mostly the women they are seeing or dating or or trying to love. In a relationship is supposed to be 50/50 nothing more. It seems women abuses a man's love to her to the point where he can't take it anymore and he needs to move on what time is her in his life. Sometimes in any relationship, the woman just keeps abusing and abusing and abusing and abusing and abusing by being spoiled constantly whenever her boyfriend tries to please her and she still not satisfied. I'll give you a better example: 3 years ago I bought my girlfriend a television for her birthday and it took me six months to save up to $500 without a credit card. I work a part-time job and get paid $90 every other week. The next day my girlfriend calls me up and asked me to take her out and get her hands and feet done and I told her no over and over because I told her I didn't have any money and she just kept telling me to get some money and take her out and I said No angrily and she told me it was over between us and she threw the television I got for her out the window. Thank God I kept the receipt with a warranty on it cuz I knew something like this was going to happen. That's the television. Women are so damn spoiled like children to the point where when a man needs to be satisfied that woman cuts off that man entirely finding someone else. Men are not supposed to be women's magical Money Trees especially when the man does not have the money or anything. She can't love the man without trying to get something from him every time they see each other then there should be no relationship and it's only a matter of time before that woman breaks up in the relationship to find another man and if she can't get it from that man she's going to go to the next man and to the next into the next and into the next until some poor soul actually spoils her. I'm sorry I'm so angry because these are the reasons why I'm still single. It's already hard to find a woman that is looking for love and not just for my Wallet. THAT'S NOT LOVE!!!

[noamazia]

i don't know what you are talking about...
im pretty sure men remaind who they are, but now we have the internet so we hear a lot more stories. and which stories will go around more? a girl bragging about her man being loyal or a girl cursing men for being disloyal.

so what i think you should be asking is WHICH men are more likely to be loyal or not.
none of the people around me ever cheated except for 1 girl (but she had mental issues and that was how she coped at the time). one of my friends even asked me what he should do about having disloyal thoughts when girls from uni hit on him, at a time his girlfriend had 0 sexual drive (he isn't a stud, just weird coincidence), but in the end he did nothing and now he is getting married to her.

i think it's a matter of the surrounding culture. those cultures create images of 'successful' and 'failiure'. so maybe in your culture, a part of being a successful man is having a few women at a time or switching women frequently. and maybe that culture has also 'nurtured' you to look for the complementing aspects in a man, so in the end you are looking for qualities that are most likely common in cheating men in your culture.
if you want to chage that, the only way to escape that is either to escape the culture to a place where the qualities you are looking for are unrelated to unfaithfulness, or you need to change how you are valueing a man.

[Shadouwuw]

I would say options, technology, people were always unfaithful, men, women, i think its rooted to our biology, like someone binging on food. You just gotta have self control. Some give into impulse, some do it just because they can, just because they have opportunity, then falling out of love, bad chemistry, misunderstandings, life problems, different basic beliefs, many other things. Lack of quality time spent together. Its not just men, i feel the same about women. People hardly wanna try anymore, work it out. Breaking up is made like a very normal thing, that we just find someone that fits us better. Approaching with these mindsets, perspectives. Its a lot, its all tangled. But i believe a person always chooses to cheat, despite everything. Its been happening since the begining. Its who we are. Even loyal people have lot of crushes. I don't like it but it is what it is. You dont wanna dig into their mind, u will lose all hope for humanity, its a swear. We can only hope to find like minded individuals, with strict principles and beliefs, who is more understanding, loyal despite circumstances. Semper fi.

[HighValue]

Women are less loyal than men, and the reason is liberal morals. the more liberal morals someone has, the less loyal they will be most of the time in a relationship.

I'd recommend avoiding anyone that has a past of casual sex. They don't think of it the same way as other people and are significantly more likely to cheat.

I'd also recommend that if you like someone, you should try approaching and initiating. Plenty of good guys don't approach women anymore due to false accusations, but the player/cheater type will approach you often because they are used to it.

[TheorionMage]

Define 'un-loyal'. Loyalty is bound by 'reciprocity' ... especially in the face of short term advantageous opportunity hook-ups. Your 'bird' in their hand, beats it nested in some distant 'bush'.

Natural evolution of the average Male predisposes to immediate opportunity copulation...
we need look no further than the ethnic preponderance of of 'unwed single parents' DESPITE the availability of significant pharmaceutical and physical birth control. Those spermatozoa evolved to seek access to viable Ovum... beyond that, its all prevailing cultural 'norms' ~

[D_Bone_Steak]

80/20 rule and why would that 20% stick with a single 80% choice when they have the choice of literally 100% if they want? Meanwhile that 80% of men that receive no action at all would be loyal in a greater way. They don't get the chance and you chicks only go after dudes like me that don't care if I have you or not. I'm not trying to be a dick but it's the women themselves that's limited themselves to the top 20%. Online dating changed the game from needing the gift of gab to just being willing to hit the gym and take good pictures. At the same time lets say a woman hooks up with one of those loyal men... she cheats with whom and why? 9 times out of 10... it was for the muscles.

This is why my only advice for dudes is to hit the gym and my advice to women is to stop demanding way more than what they bring to the table themselves.

[Vegasrunner]

You said what I was going to say. It's a great irony. Woman claim they have all these options and choices yet they always come back to someone like us while ignoring the 80% simps that would be loyal. We fuck em and forget then and then they start the cycle all over again.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Vegasrunner Yeah it's becoming common knowledge. A 3 female on a scale of 1 to 10 only gives 9's or 10's a chance and then wonders why the guys that have all the options they want won't settle for them. The tendency of females to be solipsistic is what I blame for their hypergamy taking place holder #1 not considering things like a dumber guy or a slightly chubby guy. Meanwhile, we dudes has always considered a dumber chick or a not top model body... and that's the crux of the issue, those dumber or not top model chicks only consider the best of the best and then wonder why nobody they hook up with isn't willing to settle for them long term. It's their own behavior they seem to refuse to anylize or change, yet the only thoughts and words they have is to blame all men. They end up "alpha widowed" and start asking where all the good men have gone... with their cats and small dogs. lolz

[ohshee]

First of all because they have been brought up to be selfish they were brought up in a me me me world they have no morals values or ethics things are built nowadays to be thrown away in the generation coming up that's how they treat life if you don't like something throw it away get something new it's the way their parents raised them to be all about themselves their parents were the same way there needs to be laws on being a parent. If you cannot teach your kid to be better than you are then the whole world's going to fall apart are the direction that is taken is for the no good and everybody will be out to take advantage of everybody else I would not want to live in a world like that and that's where we are headed it's not only men it's women to

[he-takes-a-part]

Haha becoz every other girl is flaunting and in contrast they dont provide it which makes them hunt here and there every time. Look the matter is quite easy with men they taste and leave the shit they just dont grab it and sit over it unlike most girls. So once a guy has experienced many girls he will come to original love he will return. So just work in the path of their energies to girls get satisfaction by talking but boys are not that way structured they want to release energy eveyday. Which makes hunting the real option possible.
The question showcases a real concern tho.

[BCA6010]

Men say exactly the same thing about women.

It's almost like we live in an era in which hookup culture is promoted directly and indirectly, and the concepts of commitment, marriage, and the nuclear family are shunned, and half of the country's youth grow up with split household's or single parents...

[TheSpaceGnome]

We aren't. I've never cheated in a relationship in my entire life.

Women who think that guys are unloyal, are just dating jerks, and ignoring nice guys.
Usually this is because the woman is a jerk though.

Exceptions exist, but only if the woman is really bad at reading people's personalities, and as a results gets lied to while being oblivious to personality red flags that would have made her see it coming.

[Sonorous]

Mainly because the chads women go for nowadays understand their value. So they know they can afford to burn so many bridges when many more will just form afterward. & the internet makes it so easy to form constant connections with new people. Or in this case, victims.

[Sonorous]

And if a guy doesn't fit the definition of a chad but still cheats. Then it's just another reminder of how humans are not monogamous by nature.

And women are equally bad when it comes to loyalty. If not morso since the internet has made resources so easily accessible. I mean, women don't initiate most of the divorces because of loyalty. 🤣 I've even heard divorce workers say the most popular cause was financial problems. Aka the guy wasn't bringing home enough money.

But I think it won't get people anywhere to ask questions like these. Because everyone has their own perspective validating their opinion. So that's why I think it's better to form arguments based on statistics while shaming certain behaviors if we don't like them.

[Frost9294]

Hey, not all men are idiots and not loyal today… Some of us, like myself are still gentleman, we honour the code of chevalier and stuff but in the end, we are just guys after all so don’t blame us if we give a nice look at a nice pair of big boobs or smile at a girl. That doesn’t mean that we don’t love you anymore or that we don’t respect you, it’s just us, guys being guys and our hormones… It’s impossible not to do that, it would be just like when a girl would just pass right by parfumerie or some cosmetics shop, impossible, right?

[lightbulb27]

I know lots of loyal men my age and some younger ones. This is not a true premise.
Corruption would be the answer... and that may tie back to female "free" behavior, loss of fathers, and loss of morale/value training in various organizations (religious and such).

[Lionman95]

Because many people (not only guys) go out looking for the best catch to find. Therefore they always be looking for someone better. Plus many guys start dating before they even know what they want they think they could find that out while dating.
That way it could happen that they start a relationship that they first think is attractive but later they found that she´s the right person so they cheat on her because while being in a relationship they keep looking.

[MrCommodore]

Some men are not loyal, most of us are loyal snd never cheat.

Why are some unloyal? Some players just need to feel the rush of chasing a new girl, and they just can't be loyal. Others just maybe drift away from their partner and bond with another girl.

[Anonymous]

Women are less loyal than men.
And if you pick a man who is not loyal...
YOU need to pick better men.

Women choose their partners and sort through all the options they have and pick the guy they want, so if he is a cheater, it’s in you for picking poor partners. Men take the partner they can get, and those women have endless attention from other men, so the likelihood and reality of it is that they will cheat by the sheer math of it.

Add to that the fact that women are generally hypergamous and have persistent grass is greener syndrome

[Wade12345]

I could ask the same of you women. It takes two to tango, so for every cheating man there is a cheating woman.

In addition, there are actually far more bisexual women than men, and the women cheat with one another, so if you counted lesbian/bisexual affairs, I'm pretty sure women cheat more than men cheat.

[Browneye57]

Cheating is pretty well split 50-50 by gender, however women are better liars so the stats are skewed to men.

What makes you think any guy owes you anything at 20 years old? Seriously. Did you expect some kind of exclusivity without any kind of commitment?

[MrtoddsWildRide]

I was married for more than twenty years and stayed faithful that entire time. In that time I had one of my close male friends out of four cheat on his spouse and we all stopped talking to him after that.
I think you are just finding the wrong men.

[jasco]

People become dick heads when morals are loss. This is both men and women. No morals means no anything other than awful choices that usually hurt people. The tradition way of doing things kept morals and religion in society which in turn made people become less of a dick head and more of a good person

[Anonymous]

There are too many single women on the market as a result of the collapse of the institution of marriage.

Your dating strategy and preferences probably also favor dating players. That is men who are naturally disloyal and particularity skilled picking up and courting new women having had so much practice with it.

If you can count the number of girls he talks to and past girl friends, the higher the number the lower his loyalty.

[MCheetah]

Why are women so unfaithful, gay, and shameless these days? (Find me one woman who isn't a lesbian, into OnlyFans, or can treat a man half-decently.) Please women, give me your opinion!

[Anonymous]

Well according to my previous boss women of today are men. He said any woman under 35 just wants to get her f*** on.
There's no point in seeking a relationship with someone who looks at you as a temporary stiff d***
Sorry about the language and bluntness.

[cookiecrusher]

Because women pick such guys.

If no women would want a guy like that, especially for a hookup, then guys would learn.

Hookups as a woman is especially dumb, it totally makes you worthless 😗. Giving everything away for free, no commitment needed and not to mention future pair bonding and issues.

Sorry women, you can't have it all.

[Pohjolan]

Are they really?
Like with how many of the men you have had sex with have you agreed on that you are both in a monogamous relationship?

Also fuckboys fuck around more easily than ever before so this creates a certain confirmation bias.
Heck I do know a over 6 foot tall martial artist with ABS whom is loyal as fuck at least to his friends but struggles to get a date.
In the 80:s or 90:s this would not have been the case.

[Anonymous]

Women give no incentive for it. Most guys aren’t getting girls, it’s women going and getting with the minority of guys that do get girls. When these girls then decide to commit to a regular dude they’re already used up. In other words, they’re not long term relationship material.

[exitseven]

Social Media. Nobody is loyal to anyone. If a relationship goes sour it is easier to just fins somebody else than try to work it out. I am glad I don't have to deal with it.

[Cuminginside]

Yeah I hear that

[SkipPerk]

Most men are not. Women choose to share a handful of men, instead of choosing men with integrity. My question to you would be, why do so many women choose sleazy, disloyal men?

[Browneye57]

Cuz the like the fukboyz. They're edgy and fun. Then they whine about it, think they can change 'im. Silly girls. LOL

[Hairylegs222]

Shitty people are because they're pieces of shit. Also choosing your partner poorly is your own fault. There's simple loyalty tests I do to women being potential gfs towards me. If they fail, I move on.

[blazesteered]

Men are unloyal because of the degeneracy of modern society, feminisms lack of replacing old gender roles with something that works or counterbalancing old gender roles with a more egalitarian modern principle, respect of women idea being degraded and being bad to girls being seen as "cool" and there own pride and Ego and Vanity

[Anonymous]

Most men are loyal but most men never get attention from a single woman. Women only go for men with baby maker at least 26 cm with money so the top 100 men at every college sleep around because they know women still want them anyways even if they are uni loyal and lie saying they are the only woman they sleep with

[DyingLately]

Considering that studies show women to be more likely to cheat and that I’ve been cheated on in the past. I’d say women are the ones who are not loyal. THESE HOES ain't LOYAL