Omg why dislikes for just telling the truth? Not only they're unromantic but dishonest , horrible and very fragile who can't even listen the truth. Men are WEAKEST.
Soon we will have triple the male whores than female sex workers.
That is the life they chose. So let them live it. They care about sex. That's it.
I didn't vote up or down for your response, cause I (honestly) couldn't..Coming across someone, who's thoughts on a subject, have me split 50-50 pretty much, on all points contained within... is rarity, enough. Since I don't get behind anything, that directly contradicts something else, I either knew to be true or at least "believed" it was... up to that point. Unless, I was somehow convinced to change that stance, when my previous take on things, was somehow proven to be flawed in some way. Which in this particular case, it was the religious overtones I couldn't get behind... yet still couldn't deny, either.I'm not sure how old ya are but ya strike me as being around the same age as me. Meaning you're one of the last remaining members of the old guard, too. Remnant of a by gone era known as an, "O. G.". Least, that's what the younger crowd just loves to refer to us as. Where even though it does kinda border on the insulting... I suppose, they could've referred to us as far worse too, lol.Anyway, assuming that's accurate, then you've also had a front row seat, to the downfall of humanity... every step of the way. Even if we didn't really notice each disturbing trend, as they occurred, the subsequent fallout, as a result of them... could still always be felt, afterward.Hind-sight being what is, it then wasn't very hard to discern when and why, the latest deviation from the status quo, occurred (this) time. Ya throw in enough of those type "course corrections", where again, if you're anything like me, anyway... the world around you, soon became all but unrecognizable. To the point where not only are ya left feeling as though you have no place in it... but would make no attempt to lay claim to it, even if ya did!
Whenever I contemplate how we could've let things get this shitty, it always leads me to the same three "usual suspects".. being at the heart of it all...(every) time... throughout time...Religion, Greed and the ignorant masses, that allow for the other two, to not only be so effective but accepted as common place, at that. I don't mention any of this, as a means to insult you though, honest. Since it was (you), who actually managed to get me to re-assess my take on religion... of all things. Your post left me (forced) to concede the fact, you were right about the effect it has on people... including the noticeable difference when it doesn't. Meaning, the removal of religion from the family dynamic, is exactly (why) the moral fiber of the entire human race, is all but non-existent, anymore. Now only clung to, by O. G.'s mostly, all of whom being a dying breed, of course.Which the thought of, pisses me off.. beyond belief!Cause there isn't a single thing about religion, let alone the scum that spread it... that showcases anything even remotely associated with the term moral. Let alone, does it exhibit/encourages intelligence, free thinking, love or respect for your fellow man or any semblance of a strong family dynamic, whatsoever!In fact, one nauseating precept in Leviticus, suggests it's totally cool to buy and sell children..."forever". God itself, set up it's only ill-gotten "son", to be murdered horribly. For things he had nothing to do with, no less..
And why would it do such a thing? NO ONE knows and no one...(ever) will.People can say he died for "our sins", all they want but what the hell does that even mean? Who is "our"? Was it meant for everyone on Earth, at the time? Just the people who bore witness to his crucifixion? Or was it really THAT broad a stroke, as to mean every last soul that has ever found themself on this rock, at some point... including those that were gone, long before Jesus ever even showed up..Assuming it meant that highly unlikely 3rd option, fine.. what (exactly) constitutes a "sin" then? I've heard about the 7 deadly ones but they're kinda hard to implement into every facet of our lives... as they're happening, no less. Let alone, how can it claim to hate something so much, when god itself commits more atrocities in a 60 second time span, then humans could ever amass, in their entire lifetime... combined!Why am I even forced, to ask these questions? If you were "god" and decided in your infinite wisdom, to put your own son's life up on the chopping block, for our sins... knowing full well, no one would ever remember why that was, (exactly). Let alone, who it was, (exactly) that it was intended to absolve or why they needed absolved in the first place? When that thing itself, was/is the only one holding anyone accountable for the shit, in the 1st place! All of which, done so, just so it can keep a tab on all those sins. Where it will then throw the book at me for my laundry list of offenses, just before sending me off to burn for (eternity)? Seemed like "cruel and unusual punishment", to me and all... guess not, though. Would you (still) have chosen to go through with it, anyway? Does that sound like the act of some loving parent, let alone.. omnipotent being?
Cause not only did that random act of cruelty, fail to teach me any sort of moral lesson, whatsoever... it did the exact opposite?All it accomplished, was to glorify the premeditated and completely unjustified, murder of some guy named, Jesus. A charismatic guy to be sure but clearly, not exactly in his right mind, either. Less it really was all true of course, in which case his brutal murder, really was orchestrated by his deadbeat, deity dad too, then! Who one may have thought would at least show up at some point, to save the day then. Then after having put a stop to the scripted to be, days on end, brutal beating and torture of the son it loved so much. Thus allowing for some sort of misguided moral lesson to be learned. Though, if things actually had played out that way... I still fail to see what the fuck that could possibly have been.But nope, turns out the only lesson to be learned... was for Jesus, alone. When realizing just what kind of cold hearted, son of a bitch, his dad truly was. As if he didn't have a crystal clear picture of that, as it was..When leaving his immaculately-raped mother behind, to raise him all on her own. A futile exercise, no less.. as they were all made well aware. Since dear ol' dad, put the hit out on him, eons before he was ever even born. All just a footnote in it's wonderful plan, we always hear so much about... and never actually see the fruits of... in any way, shape or form... ever.
I mention these things, not only to try and convey the reasoning behind my lack of faith.. but also to express why my agreeing with you, is so maddeningly frustrating! Cause without that moral-less deity to "guide us"... the human race, truly is lost. And (that) is probably the saddest lesson to be learned from any of this complete waste of time, we called "life". You really do write eloquently though, managed to do what no other has... Convinced even me, of all people... that religion truly is or at least was... a (necessary) evil. Cause without it, one day someone may find they're so devoid of morals, they just decide to unilaterally unleash a deadly flu/disease on everyone.. for example.Anyway, ya may not realize or care but if this pandemic crap, really is humanity's end and all..While I'm sure this post wouldn't mark a "1st" for you, it's still an end of days accomplishment, worthy of recognition.At least mine, anyway... nice..
I have read the entirety of your post. But you have to understand something. Do you have to seek the Lord while he still may be found. Because these coming years is not going to be a good thing. It's going to be really hard for anybody to see or hear from God. That's how dark just trying times are becoming. Whatever problems that you have understand that God loves you and he don't want to see you in a place that separates you from him forever. He doesn't expect everybody to understand everything. But to have a desire to fully understand him will make things a little bit more easier. When I came to this world I came to this world with a lot of knowledge. But, I had to be shown to Darkness of this world, in order for me to come to the light of the father. We are born with his love that's why babies always bring a smile to people's faces. But it's up to us to choose to keep it or leave it. I'm just one of the few we few chose to keep his love because his love is more precious than anything else. Without it oh, and you had nobody else. Who else will you have? Most importantly what would you do if you don't even love yourself? That's why we need God more than ever. It's not that anything was a necessary evil. But that Satan always tries to mess up everything that God had made right. So God has to fix everything because of the damage. The sad reality is that we tend to get caught in the middle if we are already used for evil. Just know it's better to be used for good, than for evil. Jesus had to do what he had to do because he had to show us the way to the father. And he did. But sadly a lot of things as being taught in churches is not as accurate either. That's why having a relationship with God is very important. And not for us to lean on to our own understanding. I could tell you that by experience.
Wow someone actually thought about the question. So if women start to become better than men do you think they should be the one to wow us be romantic, especially if they start making more money than us
No.Neither gender is inherently ‘better’ than the other. Both men and women are capable of holding down jobs with comparable incomes so.. just do what I’ve always done- everyone pays for their own shit and behaves in a courteous manner to all. Regardless of whether they’re a man, woman, friend, s/o, etc..
But wouldn’t it be fair for women to flip roles and start to take care men since men have been doing it for so long. Like there can be classes in how to please men and how get our attention, we can make movies about how awful women treat men because men are now the ones who feel entitled to romance. That’s sounds fair to me
Lol what? In what way have men been ‘taking care of women for so long’?
You said that women couldn’t work so men has to take care of them
Correct. Women didn’t have the right to have an income of their own so..Call it what you wish. Either institutional dependency or ‘caring’ for the person who is basically your property in the name of the law.
Well I doubt women wanted to be farmers and cole minors
... farming and coal mining were a source of income so that’s a moot point.
What’s moot mean
It’s an invalid point to say to try to prove anything by saying ‘women wouldn’t want to be farmers or coal miners’ because even if they did, we’d never know. Women were forbidden, by law, from any means of an income of their own.
Perhaps the farther back you go the younger women got married and I doubt a woman who was raise in a society that see a woman’s roll as giving birth to children would want to be a black smith or a coal miners or a ditch digger, or farmer. I work at Lowe’s hardware and women barley want to help me move heavy stuff now. So when I hear you paint women as the victims through our history, I can see that your divorce from the idea that women aren’t that big on hard labor even now and you can fathom the idea that they would rather have a man take care of them than lift a finger. Even though today’s women are the same way. So I always just laugh when I hear girls say women weren’t allowed to work. It’s just ridiculous
I see you’re comparing apples to oranges in picking some parts of society from today and acting like that’d be acceptable in the past, or vice versa.Maybe you have no success with women cause you have trouble telling right from left. Your job is not to blame for that.
Thats a lot to unpack, so assumption that I have success with women is based of what? At no point in Time did I suggest that I was failing with women, my only assumption is that you think that if a man criticizing women then he must not be sleeping with them, well I don’t where got that from so I’m just assuming like you.You need to be more specific you can just I’m making comparisons about women not wanting to do hard labor but provide no evidence contrary to the facts.
Kayla, I love what you said in your post. I completely agree with you. Thank you for writing that.However, I myself have never considered anything financial to be romantic. Romance to me would be writing someone a poem or singing to them or telling them how much you care about them. (And holding hands, and kisses, etc.) And sure, flowers can be included in that, as well as chocolate, I guess. And going out is nice, but it shouldn't depend on one party mooching off of the other.
@Jamie05rhsI’m glad we’re on the same page! 😊
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You do know that women also do romantic gestures don't you? I don't know where you meet all these independent modern feminists who don't like or do any romantic gestures. Maybe it's an USA thing.
It is common of you americans to not have middle ground and only see extremes. To you the idea of a modern woman who is actually an amazng partner who loves and cares for her man is the same as talking to you of an alien.
@ThisIsMyOpinion First and foremost, no. Their is a reason why the romance genre is almost exclusively produced by and consumed by women, its because it is female centric by nature. Now if your suggesting that I'm saying their are not gestures women can give men that are good and show that they love them, then your an idiot because my argument clearly states that their are they just frequently don't.(We have been through this before, your white knighting is pathetic, stop it. women are not angels they are not perfect, they can and frequently screw up and the data has shown that its more common now then before (again, we have been through the statistical data so I'm not going to rehash that because it didn't sink in the first four times its not going to sink in now)).As for your talk about the US, your a moron, you do not live in the US, you do not know anything about the US, and you have more then likely never been to the US (or interacted with americans in person) yet here you are trying to act as if you know what the US is about. We are not a land of extremes except in the extremes of freedom and individuality. So kindly fuck off. Can't say if this holds true for europeans in person, but what is it with europeans online believing they are better then every one else and know everything? Its especially frustrating when that person is clearly proven wrong time and time again yet still has the gall to try and talk shit. Mind boggling.
I know that romantic movies are more to women, but to say that has nothing to do with women making zero gestures while dating and in a relationship. If they don't they are not even worth it. And here it comes the "it's their nature" bs. The amount of times we see it is where we disagree, that's why I wonder if what you say is an US thing.I know they are not angels, I know they are not perfect. I said this many times. That is not my point. I have interacted with many americans here, and guess what, THEY ARE THE ONES COMPLAINING ABOUT WOMEN. Not Europeans. Even yesterday I saw a question like "Why are American girls mean to me but european girls are nice?". And you wonder why I put the hypothesis of all you say being due to deal with women who have nothing to do with ours?
@ThisIsMyOpinion Well first off it has every thing to do with women, if you don't understand how the romance genre is entirely consumed by women and almost exclusively produced by women has something to do with women, your just stupid and their is no helping you (and you are just stupid, and their is no helping you.). As for your interactions, on here, they are complaining, but so are others so are europeans, its a western society thing not an American thing. do you think that the reason why you see more americans talking about it is because we have a population size of 328 million people while your country has a total of 10 million? You think it might be because we have the third largest population in the world while western Europe combined doesn't equal the US? You think maybe that might be the reason why? Of course not, that would require you to think and you have shown multiple times your not very good at that (plus your a white knight and a cuck so what the fuck do you know anyway right? I mean again, we have gone through the multiple statistical studies from both america and Europe showing your wrong but your to fucking stupid to understand it and I'm not going to go through it all over again just for you to not register what is said).
@hellionthesagereborn I know the movie style is made for women. I agreed with that. Do you even read what I say? My point was that women also act in a romantic way in relationships. My comment is by comparison. Most european guys I see here don't complain about women. It's not that I see more, when I see a guy who is not doing it he is european. Not only that but I know that the agenda you have there is was more agressive then the one we have here. I also gave you stats that you dimissed on the count of "I don't believe those, I only believe mine."
I know this is meant for both sexes but I feel like some girls might think, "Well, I want candy." Anyhow, great fu*kin answer. Covers an overall struggle and implies an answer. Honesty is timeless.
Haha thank you. I do buy candy but only for one girl that I used to work with. We have a special relationship. Not romantic or anything, I wouldn’t want to date her but I think she has a crush on me. She has 4 kids anyways from like 4 dudes and she’s not cute.But I buy her candy when I see her and I hug the shit out of her. She has a funny personality. She’s like “why didn’t you buy me candyyyyyyy!!! I’m mad at you!” Lmao like it’s all a silly sweet joke. For her I will buy candy and she buys me candy and snacks too.Don’t know why I’m saying this lol. There’s no point to it but whatever.
I really like this post. We really do need to up our standards. We hold a lot of the power to shape society through it.
Well I mean... quit going for the rich, good looking guys who has line of women who want em.
So, so, so true. So like if you are @charas and talk about deepthroating on your profile... guess where that bar is set? Lowly whore to be treated like a sex object and nothing else. Hey if that's a kink great, but if you let kinks run your life you will end up very fucked up. You want respect? Act respectable. When women demand respect, men will meet that standard. Men WANT to have to work for it, it's in our DNA. It's very rare that a man will hold himself to a high standard if women don't.
@iFartedReally? Rich good-looking men have zero to do with it. If you don't have income to provide as many of us should be expecting to have families then that is already to standard. The problem is that if a man is over real good looking as many human also one good looking women who are you to judge? The same issues we have all the same issues you have. The most you basically do it for sexual reasons you don't do it because you want to build a friendship and get to know a person. That's how a lot of you meant end up single. And that's why a lot of us women end up going for such men. If you want a man that is able to provide then you automatically qualify. That's how it's been for eons what makes you think it changes today? Start building and have a rational and logical reasons to date. If you called for that life than you must qualify. If you don't qualify remember one thing. Beggars can't be choosers.
Your looks is only going to get you but so far. But unless you're a supermodel getting paid for your looks. your looks is not going to pay the bills. Or till the fields. A farmer is more qualified than a man who's sitting on his butt all day.
Plus, if you think romancing means chasing a woman: we know that you give MORE to the guys who don't bow down and beg you for stuff so we've learned to worry less about your feelings.
^Your comment is spot on.
Right. Giving romance to a date would be like romancing a street hooker. She's not loyal to the guy & she's got 100 other dudes she considers equal priority most likely. Nobody is buying roses for that.
@hahahmm I agree, romance comes when I have her commitment. I’m not romancing some girl could have been sucking dick an hour before I met up with her on the date.
The guy was testing the woman to see if she was only for casual (likely to be giving it up to every dude who wanted some) or if she was good for long term serious because she had standards. So what if the guy used romance as an FBI sting. Women have about 150 trap tests they pull on guys every month. Us men only had 1.
Not saying every guy used it as a trap tho - just playing along with your premise.
none romantic cry babies dislike this so pathetic
I agree with this except for the competing part. I compete against no one. I ain't playing that game.
But I also think you could have left out the "desirable" part. Because a lot of girls will read that and feel bad because they think they're not desirable (but they really are).
@Jamie05rhs: Someone can read whatever they want into anything, and that should in no way be taken to mean that; however, women need to understand that a guy isn’t going to do that For a woman he doesn’t consider long term relationship material.
Forget him He s a asshole
That he was. But I guess I'm a little cautious now when I want to do something romantic for someone else. I'd imagine guys are the same way. If they get a girl that doesn't appreciate something that they did for them they might think twice about doing it again with someone else.
@Simplismilez there is a lot of truth in your followup comment. Yeah, I agree.
Yup. Us guys should've known this would happen back when women went crazy for that movie Pretty Woman. Which is basically about a hooker who finds a rich sucker that treats her like a serious girlfriend/wife.
@hahahmm - Seems you're ripe for the red pill. Go here and read at least the first two years' blogs by Rollo: www.therationalmale.comWith understanding comes acceptance. I absolutely love women, have had a shit-ton of them. But I don't take any of their bullshit either.
Pink dislike? The truth hurts b*tch! You're a man's slave. Go get used by them like a doormat.
You think women are worthless?
No, I didn’t say that.I’m not going to all the trouble of being romantic for a woman who hasn’t earned it, because sometimes you go the extra lengths and find out she wasn’t a good a person, and wasn’t worth the effort.
Simple man. Judge them by their fruits. Stop chasing skirt, stop looking at the physical, don't have a fantasy. The same advice I'm telling you I tell that to women to.. you have to be objective about these things. The point is is that when you are being romantic to a person is left to do about earning it's about respect. Because a lot of these women don't appreciate it simply because they haven't been shown. That's why I love these women don't act like ladies anymore because a man is supposed to lead. That is how God made that to be. If you're being romantic to a person and a woman's just find it to be boring, then let me ask you this question? why continue to invest in that woman? It's Common Sense dude. You treat others how you want to be treated. Because what you're saying while understandable and relatable, it's not going to help you in a long one and it won't get you the results that you want. You got to learn to have good judgment call. A lot of these people don't.