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Lol. I came here to read the blue comments saying how men are the true romantics, just because they want to fuck a woman the moment where they see her with the aim of ghosting her after that 😂
Y is that any different than a girl not lifting the spirits all around her. I mean, if girls were genuinely happy guys would know better that u dont fu*Ik with an innocent girl or lady.
Also, guys dont start off as jerks. I don't know if u understand this. The girl is the one who ultimately flips him on his jerk side from the good side. So, bad girl.
Ah yeah I forgot it’s always the woman’s fault. It’s like this trend about insulting women for having daddy issues while it’s the men who failed as fathers
Yes, and to bring it back. What did God tell Eve not to do?
She had one rule. Dont eat the apple.
Then what happen? Bad guy came and then she ate the apple. Then men failed many corners of every life time.
I believe if women are the problem. Then, women can be the solution. So yeah. We all suck.
Because they haven't been tought how to properly flirt without being creepy. a lot of people think that flirting means you want something more. It can just be nice to let someone know that they are desirable, in an unobtrusive complimentary way. And to have that message returned
I think these days relationships form through superficial ways. Such as dating apps where you the only thing you get is how someone looks and maybe some of their hobbies via their photos. Obviously the attractive guy wealthier guys are going to get way more matches and have a lot more options. Often times having a lot of options lead to them being way over their head and fuck around.
Women don't appreciate it anymore. Romantic guys are stigmatized into kreepos so they give up n just try to get there dick wet for once so everyone acts like an asshole because that's what gets attention.
I don't know. I don't think its just men. I tried to be romantic with one of my exes by trying to do something special for his birthday and I found out that he was with his ex that night and that they had sex. It kinda killed my romantic spirit.
Forget him
He s a asshole
That he was. But I guess I'm a little cautious now when I want to do something romantic for someone else. I'd imagine guys are the same way. If they get a girl that doesn't appreciate something that they did for them they might think twice about doing it again with someone else.
@Simplismilez there is a lot of truth in your followup comment. Yeah, I agree.
What exactly is it that you are missing? What is it that you want from a guy that you consider to be romantic that you are not getting from them?
Good reply!
I don't know why people disliked your comment, you really asked a good question.
🤷♀️? I was genuinely Curious! I swear!
In society you'll get hated for existing. So do so at your best capacities.
Modern pop culture and the latest wave of Feminism has made dating a grim business that has given way to the hookup culture. Women caused this and let it happen. They give us nothing to love except pussy.
Now not all Modern Men are unromantic cause they just want a girl for sex and that's all so I pretty much answered your question and it's kind of sad to think that sex means more to them than old fashion real romance?
A man can have romantic gestures like and still be a disloyal prick. Just focus on finding a good man who treats you right, real love can be found in the little details.
This is true. ^^
True romance and love is how you treat someone and care for them, not what you buy for them.
From who I am and from what I've seen, I think their are alo of romantic gents out there. a lot of girls just dont get them or they aren't "romantic" to their standards of romantic.
It's time to put down your mobile phone and look at what is 10 feet in front of you. Guys are romantic, unless you are attracted to aggressive pigs.
Try going out with a guy whom you keep shoving back into the "friend zone."
Well said.
At first I was going to say its a lost art... However, in reality, its a lost requirement. Men simply no longer NEED to woo women. They get sex to easily these days. Why bother.
Cuz some guys get called creeps who do such romantic gestures.
Because most women are dumb whores not worth getting emotional over
Most. Not all. But srsly there is no point romancing over a slut iv been there i feel like a fuckin idiot when i put all this emotional effort in and bfor i know it she's banging another dude like girls want to be looking for a relationship while having casual sex, you know what I think of that modern philosophy?
GET FUCKED CUNT I DONT WANT YA ID RATHER DIE ALONE THAN SPEND ONE MORE OUNCE OF MY HEART ON YOU
Who hurt you?
@CharaS fuck off
you have serious issues lmao
@nikiarya hahah yeah I used to think people who were angry at the world had issues too... when I was young. Now that I've learned a thing or two, I've realized something... the world is worth being angry at. The world has issues, and to ignore them and pretend everything is okay... that is insanity.
yes, getting mad at a whole gender because you have problems finding a SO and ranting about it online is totally not insane. . . there's a reason nobody nice has dated you. girls don't like misogynists :)
@nikiarya I'm not mad at a whole gender. I said "most". The women that go against the grain in this regard, I give them all the love I have to give, and I support them when the rest of their gender tries to belittle and attack them for their beliefs.
You are a dumb mean bitch but I'm not gunna hate you because you are young and naive. I was as stupid as you at 18, so I have some sympathy for your situation. Don't make the mistake of thinking you have nothing left to learn in this life, you could be wrong about everything... that is the mindset young people need to be in if they want to grow and learn.
@nikiarya I hate this incel philosophy. The idea that I 'can't get a woman'. You are a joke. I can find a woman in half a fking second I've had girls CRY AT MY KNEES BEGGING FOR ME but they would just break my heart and I know it so I remain celibate. Have I slipped before and had sex with a bad woman? Yes, yes I have. I was young and stupid just like you.
you dont understand the difference between physical and emotional love. i really feel sorry and pity you. being young might limit my experiences, but it doesn't invalidate them. if you know women would break your heart- then your personality is whats struggling not your body. learn to treat women with respect as normal regular people as you would with normal friends and eventually you'll find a person that you click with.
@nikiarya So young and already so broken... a lifeless husk. I want to cry for your soul but what good would it do.
@nikiarya I treat PEOPLE how they treat ME it doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman. A woman deserving of respect gets my utmost respect, a woman not deserving of respect gets NONE and the same goes for men. I do not treat women better simply because they are women and if you have a problem with that you're sexist.
@nikiarya I'm not going to get involved with any lifeless husks like yourself. If you think you can have sex without emotions and call that 'physical love' then you are broken.
A broken human being incapable of true love and to a sensitive man like me, yes, you would break my heart.
@nikiarya that is not a problem with me, that is a problem with YOU
obviously not if you're judging most of a gender off the bat because of their sex rather than who they are. no women is going to hear you say "most women are dumb whores" and will think that you're gonna respect them
@nikiarya I'm even handed. You should hear what I have to say about most men. Will that make you understand me better? You want to know what I think of the modern man?
@nikiarya I think most men are selfish assholes. They take advantage of foolish young women like you who simply were not raised well enough to be made aware of the dangers of men, and all the while they are telling you what you want to hear. It's sickening. I've ended several friendships over this, long term friendships.
@nikiarya and you know what really pisses me off about our interaction here? How you insult me for being the way I am. I am the RAREST man in the world, the man who considers how my actions will benefit / harm a woman in the long term before getting involved with her, I care too much and for that I suffer. And then you come along and wanna be a bitch to me. Fuck you. People like you make me wonder why I don't just be like those men and trick women into sex. Cause that would make me less of a loser, right? Then I wouldn't have issues, cause I'd be getting laid, correct? Your philosophy and outlook towards men ensures you will end up mistreated by them
well no matter what it is, i doubt it's as severe as "get fucked c*nt, i don't want ya id rather die alone"
you're not gonna get anywhere with such a pessimistic attitude. there's a reason nobody wants an emotional relationship with you
caring about people is the bare minimum. there are bad people everywhere. there are good people too. some people only want physical good relationships. we shouldn't judge them. some people want emotional relationships- sounds like you're one of them which is good for you. i think you need to stop viewing women as objects only for these relationships though. make sure they're a good friend first before you spend emotional energy on them. sex doesn't make a relationship and i never once said it did. i'm just saying that you have seemed to only have women physically interested in you rather than emotionally and that's a problem
@nikiarya you do the work of bringing the reason to him I couldn't handle. Rock on, sister.
@nikiarya Thank you, but i don't have much hope for this incel smh 😔
@nikiarya it's the bare minimum and you aren't even fucking close.
No wonder you two got offended by what I said... YOU ARE THE TYPE OF WOMEN I'M REFERRING TO
i'm relieved someone like you doesn't like me... if you did I'd be worried haha
I think you need therapy.
@CharaS @GraceMarie01 some men are pathetic and will never learn. all they do is get mad when somebody tells them the truth. ig it be like that
Men were never romantic, what your thinking of is the yearly days of cinema where men would bring flowers and all that.
Really back in the day it was less bring your wife flowers and more hit her if she didn't clean the dishes properly.
too many women want to be dominated have rough sex with big dick guys that don't care. You need a loving, average dick having, Simp type of guy to have romance.
He needs to value his girlfriend in order to treat her like she's valuable.
Cause most women don't want romantic, caring and real men anymore
My husband can be pretty romantic and he does try. Seems like an odd generalization.
They see "romance" as weakness, and the last 20 years all women have been saying is "we don't like weak men". Well, sort of... you're still suppose to do what they say, according to them, but not in a weak way, but because you "want to". :)
Honestly, it just doesn't seem to work. Women need to understand that men will do things if those things yield results. I've tried to be romantic with women before and they think I'm being a manipulative user.
You just said that if it doesn't your results then it doesn't work right? That's why you're considered a manipulative user. Because you're not doing it sincerely you're doing it just to get results. Why would any woman in their right mind wants to deal with a person that's like that? Would you want a woman that thinks like that to see what she can get out of you and then leave if it doesn't get results? Treat others how you also wish to be treated. Otherwise that's not Romance. We sense the intent not the gestures itself.
@btbc92 I get the logic behind what you're saying. But that's not quite accurate because the nature of romance and love is that you want to dote on the other person to win their affection. If you try to be romantic, and the other people consistently spit in your face, you aren't going to continue to try being romantic in the future. It didn't give you your intended result. Dating IS a transaction, but that doesn't mean it's a manipulative or deceptive one.
That's not true at all. I know because I'm a romantic person at heart. And about doting on another person that's based on personality. I know for myself I'm such a voided and there are just some days I do not want to be touched by people. Not even by my own family. Dating is not a transaction dating is about processing in elimination. You want a transaction relationship then you get married. You are not dating to be trying to keep a person. You're dating to find a potential spouse. Lots of people don't want to get married so they settle for less. If you are settling for less than that also then you're going to be who you attract. What makes it manipulative and deceptive is again your intentions. I can easily accept the rose from a nine-year-old because I know his intentions are pure. But I will not be so trusting to a 19 year-old because usually has a sexual in nature. Why? Because he already went through puberty already. His primary mode is going to be based on physical and sexual attraction. Unless it's out of lust. And most people today do it out of lust. So again. You have to really think about where your attentions are.
I know for myself I'm touch avoident*
Nobody owes you anything in dating. In marriage that is a different story. If you recording each other then you know what to expect. Dating at that point it's however way you make it. But when it comes to romance is out of pure intent. At the same time you cannot be expecting everybody to respond the same way you want them to. Some women like flowers. Some women don't. And that's fun. That doesn't make it any less romantic. That's just do to expectations. Romance is where you can freely be yourself and it's pure and innocent without having to do much in return. Sometimes you don't even have to speak. You can just hold hands and stare at the stars and not romantic. Spending time together is just as romantic. It doesn't require that much work. But what matters is that you want to put the effort. And reality is you cannot be sharing that with everybody because not only is not everybody receptive. But not everybody deserves that from you. YOU decide who is worth that or not.
What that tells me is that you as a person being romantic is not the problem. You are too desperate for any woman to pay attention to you abd want you. In other words. You're not romantic at all your people pleaser. And people Pleasers and I know because I've been one myself growing up. Don't love themselves. So we try to accommodate that by giving love to people without getting that love back in return. That's people-pleasing. That's not Romance. Romance doesn't settle for less and it doesn't settle for toxic behaviors.
@btbc92 I used to be a people pleaser, but I've definitely grown out of that though. I had some personal issues to work through. You talk about how you would be more likely to accept a rose from a 9 year old boy than a 19 year old because he likely had pure intentions, but that speaks to your personal experiences and scars more than it does about men's intentions. Let's do an innocent thought experiment: Imagine that boys aged from 9-19 get into a line and hand you roses. At what age do you begin to doubt their intentions? Now, let's do another thought experiment; let's imagine that we live in a super liberated society where free love is celebrated; why don't you want to sleep with that 9 year old boy? There's nothing non-romantic about dating and love being a transaction. It's not even like I go around feeling "owed" anything for my investment; I just know that I have to pay to play (or get played). I know that you and I both want to think that it should be about love, but when it gets right down to it; dating leads to marriage, and marriage is about security.
Actually no it doesn't it's actually about having discernment. I can sense the intent a lot by people. Regardless of my experiences and scars. I know men who do have pure intentions and I have met many that have not. As a man thinks that his way than access is a way to please me then he's wrong. It's not about the age you see. It's about the Innocence. Are they pure and thought as Jesus had said for us to be. I know for a fact that I am to maintain my virginity until I am married. I know not to be involved with a man who watches pornography and devil in masturbation. I know not to be involved with an individual who doesn't have respect for himself little on other people. Is God himself they know the answer is still no. What you have to understand is why are you dating? What is your intentions? Where does the other person fit in? And most importantly do you understand what it takes to uphold one? What even Jesus has said. There are those that are called. And those who are not. And there are those who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom. Take a wild guess which one am I?
To tell you the truth that's just how you run. But that is not how love run. Gain that understanding from the father who created us. For he is love. If you don't understand the love of the god that created you then you will not understand how to love another woman. Regardless if you believe in God or not. That is how much wisdom and of discernment is lacked in this world. Many have the knowledge but they don't know what to do with it while many have also forsaken it. Please tell me how in the world am I going to connect with somebody who doesn't even understand those basics?
For UC. Flesh will always try to fight with Spirit. But if you don't learn how to tame your fleshly desires than those fleshly desires can either hurt a person or simply benefit you because it's sin nature. Do you not see it's all about testing and trials and tribulations? Because I will also give the example as well considering the nine-year-old. I can tell the difference between a 9 year old who have pure intent and a nine year old who does not. Just like I could tell a 19 year old who has pure intentions and another who does not. Your answers show that you failed the test.
This is why a lot of people fantasize and yearn for the things of real love. But few have yet to obtain it. And understand it. That is why there are but few who can have over 40 and 50 years of marriage and die either a widow or by each other side. While many claim they want to have it but they never receive. Know that the things you cultivate all dropped your childhood is everything you bring to the table in a marriage. Practice starts when you're young. Sex is also about giving and you're learning about sex and practicing sex non physically of course, starting with your parents, starting with your teachers, starting with your pets if you have any, starting with your family, starting with your friends. If you don't already find the importance of that when you are a child and you chose to forsake that as a team for young adult by having sex with multiple people or you supposed to wear your innocence just to fit in. Then you already missed the boat. And it may take you a long time just for you to get back on that boat let alone for you to get that ticket. And his what makes it worse. The ticket is often free. But very few understand it's worth and either choose to either sell it or throw it away. I still have my ticket. And I am not foolish enough to throw it away or sell it.
While it's true that I have my wounds and I'm not going to deny that. But I also know how to respect myself and I also know my worth. I also know not to settle for less. So whether you take this advice or not. Grow. Mature. Build something for yourself and learn to cultivate again those same skills in a friendship. It all begins with the basics. It doesn't stop just because you're an adult. I highly suggest you gained some wisdom and change that mentality before you try again. I am almost 30 and I am in no rush to be getting myself involved in that. And neither is any man going to be forcing me into position I'm not ready for or isn't looking for I don't care if I'm alone I want to be single my entire life into my deathbed. If a man can't respect that he has a gun. I care about doing the right thing. I'm not here to be trying to please anybody except for God. Because at the end of my life he is the one I have to answer to. Not people.
feminism has destroyed the meaning of being romantic. thanks to them a man who's romantic will always come off as someone vulnerable and creepy
Why don't modern women act like ladies?
I am romantic, but with a woman who has earned it. I'm not going to all that trouble for a woman who is not worth it anymore. They don't appreciate it like they used to.
You think women are worthless?
No, I didn’t say that.
I’m not going to all the trouble of being romantic for a woman who hasn’t earned it, because sometimes you go the extra lengths and find out she wasn’t a good a person, and wasn’t worth the effort.
Simple man. Judge them by their fruits. Stop chasing skirt, stop looking at the physical, don't have a fantasy. The same advice I'm telling you I tell that to women to.. you have to be objective about these things. The point is is that when you are being romantic to a person is left to do about earning it's about respect. Because a lot of these women don't appreciate it simply because they haven't been shown. That's why I love these women don't act like ladies anymore because a man is supposed to lead. That is how God made that to be. If you're being romantic to a person and a woman's just find it to be boring, then let me ask you this question? why continue to invest in that woman? It's Common Sense dude. You treat others how you want to be treated. Because what you're saying while understandable and relatable, it's not going to help you in a long one and it won't get you the results that you want. You got to learn to have good judgment call. A lot of these people don't.
Cause they don’t need to be anymore, they get sex way too easily
No its not about find sex easly. Its about his character. I never see a woman an anima or object also I like sensual ladies
Newer generation has changed so much in a bad way tbh. Lol remember our partners, they had to try really hard to impress their love now what do these guys do besides sending nudes
Right 👌 but sending nudes not bad for special peoples I think
Because modern women don't appreciate them.
A guy holding a door for a women is considered sexist so men are now afraid to be romantic
Its not cool. The whole idea of love that is personal and private doesn't make sense in a lot of society. It usually has to have the rest of the world involved or social media.
Because of modern women and third wave feminism. I've seen so many girls scream at men who do "romantic gestures" like paying for dinner, opening doors etc. This is why men dont try as hard and why there are so many MGTOW.
Omg whaat?
I'm not sure exactly where you are coming from, but in general... Porn is the culprit. It distorts your brain if you endulge too much, and is very addictive and easy to get. I've seen what over sexualization can do to a person.
They have lost their creativity and are stuck in an "instant gratification" world.
Romance takes a lot of effort that, more often than not, is either not fully appreciated or reciprocated
Too many women tend to put out a lot more easily and frequently these days — therefore too many men have no need to allure them in that manner anymore
Lots of reasons.
Everyone's different. This depends a lot on the individual.
Some men are more romantic than others.
Some (older men) just don't see the point anymore. We learned our lesson during our late teens and twenties. Relationships require time and effort, for not much in return. As we get older, we start to realise that we were better off single because happier life, cheaper, less emotionally stressful and less depressing.
English speaking countries are generally more about business and order. Even the concept of dating is built from a business way of thinking.
im romantic when i know it will be matched with the same level of intensity.
i dont waste my time on girls who are just about hooking up and not putting in effort.
Because of sluts like me who do anal on the first date lol
Well that was damn funny :p
Because they aren’t told to act like men anymore. Everyone is the same. Don’t open that door, pay for the meal or go in for a kiss... it can lead to trouble... meh, who cares.
Because we realise women are not worth the pain. We realise their more to life than being in a relationship
That's why men like me stick to porn
I hope you ll find a fine woman
Sounds like you've been in the wrong relationships that's all!
@Rosyjo wasn't in one , but I have witnessed relationships fall
I don't have the patience to wait for the right partner , I have a whole life ahead of me
Women should do the same , don't focus on getting into a relationship, just build your life and enjoy it
Thats all fine but life can bring good people on the way and then you can enjoy together
@Rosyjo maybe but I highly I have low faith in humanity
In what regard?
You expect a bad boy or a Mr Darcy in these times?
I'm currently manifesting a Mr. Darcy. I watched Pride and Prejudice with my roommate last night, and we wrote "l am worthy of a Mr. Darcy," and "I will never settle for anything less than a Mr. Darcy." on post-it notes.
Because they were brought up in the me me me world and they make it about them in stead of her
Why modern women don't put effort in appearance anymore? Effort you put in effort you get in return.
But there are plenty of men who still do.
I really honestly and truly just think it depends on the guy/type of guy you go for.
Because being romantic these days can put a man in peril of his home, his freedom, his sanity, or his life!
Here's a better question, why are all of the good men who want to become romantic with their partners & be great to their partners, but there partners end up leaving them anyways?
incel alert
@TheAlbanianWoman... incel alert? What is that?
Don't mind the karen bro.
Im not a karen
You idiot
Look at what he said
Wow, look who's talking. LOL 🤣
Are you dumb or what
I don't know, how about you?
Some are lazy, others dont care. Its rare to find a good guy in this generation.
because modern women aren't worth the effort nowadays
I wouldn't go that far. Dude, girls r way cuter then ever before. But, point taken.
yes and cakes look and taste good, doesn't mean its good for you, its whats on the inside that counts, girls do look stunning nowadays but they would snake you when they have the chance or for their own benefit, a good girl is rarer to find now than ever
Us romantic souls are still out there, we just don't advertise as much as the fuckbois
Simple...
Because women have stopped deserving it.
When women stop acting like entitled spoiled brat children with victim complexes and zero dignity or self respect and start acting like women with class... men will treat them as such.
Men still treat good women like crap.
@dwiller943 Nah... “good women” just prefer to pick assholes like all other women and ignore guys who are decent. As a female YOU make the call when it comes to who you partner with... if guys as assholes, puck better males.
*pick
I'm gonna call bullshit on that. I don't believe men or women for that matter have gotten less romantic.
Because they're male prostitutes and not real men 😡😡
That's why I only continue to date men who are romantic. A lack of romance indicates a lack of interest. So why is he dating me - I ask myself.
Most people today are just busy not really unromantic. And also I think it depends on what is considered romantic, I find those short good morning text messages to be the most romantic things.
Because when you try to be romantic these days it'll often be labeled 'awkward' or something else.
You just got to find the right one. I suggest finding an old soul my boyfriend is an old soul and super romantic
How do you find old souls lol?
It's probably related to the way women treat us. No appreciation, constant complaining, lots of cheating.
What about the good women? We deserve to be treated right.
@dwiller943 What good women?
It is because most young men are primarily focused upon sex, and sex is very easy to get without being romantic.
Go try date a woman and you'll understand, we put in all the effort to get a date kn the first place and let's beng honest 99% of then are only out for free food
Blame it on social media, globalization and modern way of life
The rise of the "equality" woman has taught us not to be.
Most young women taunt guys who are romantic.
People made the mistake of advising people to "just be yourself".
We told men they shouldn't have to jump through hoops anymore, and they stopped. Seems pretty straightforward.
"we told men" ? No, women told men that by their actions. Typical woman today has multiple casual FBs who she gives everything to for free. Then she pretends to have standards and holds back with the guy who actually treats her well. Guys decided to opt out and stop begging for leftovers.
@hahahmm - ^^ This. They've done it to themselves.
@hahahmm By we, I mean society.
Because they have toxic men telling them to be losers.
Oh well that’s life
Not all are, some can be quite the romantic and the charmer