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I’m 28 and it just seems like men in my age group are immature. I know us women are believed to mature quicker than males but at what average age do guys typically stop acting like little boys? Like emotionally, logically, spiritually…? Please don’t tell me 40+ 😩
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4.7K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Do you know what makes men grow up and be mature and responsible? Learning to be that way from a father figure who sets the example and enforces discipline and hard work.
Do you know what most boys today lack growing up? Most don't have a masculine, leader of a father figure, and many have no father figure at all. The direct result of the feminization of boys (being treated as defective girls instead of what they actually are - boys - even in the absence of more direct feminist rhetoric) is that boys are growing up without the focus, direction, or discipline that they require, and it takes far longer to develop these on their own than to learn from instruction and example.
We're in the third generation of feminist, "I don't need no man" women who have raised sons without a strong father figure, and then those boys go to school and are further feminized and indoctrinated, and what a shock - they don't become the kind of men that women desire.
Of course, women are also not becoming the kind of women that men desire (for marriage/committed relationships) either, but that's a different discussion. The point is that serious relationships are at an all-time low, as is the birth rate. This was exactly the desired outcome of the Marxists who coopted the feminist movement in the 60s and have been using the movement to push "radical Feminism" to further the Marxist goal of destroying the nuclear family in the west. Make no mistake - this was an oft-stated goal, and one that's been largely achieved.
Further, media and social media has taught women to pick men for shallow reasons and to have very unrealistic lifestyle expectations, which further erodes relationships. This has caused a lot of young men to simply give up on a serious relationship at all - if he's not a 9 in looks or doesn't make $150k a year, most guys can barely get a second look from a girl, so they stop trying - and without the motivation of a wife and family to drive their ambition, many are content if they can afford Netflix and a few PlayStation games, and don't feel the need to work 60 hours a week to acquire the kind of resources he would have if he intended to marry and have kids. He'd rather just have fun.
The Marxists knew this would happen, and so did the people resisting Feminism, but the general public just believed the narrative provided by the media, that Feminism was the ONLY possibility and was inevitable. As a result, women have never been less happy. Now they have no choice but to go out into the job market and work and compete to provide for themselves - and it's a long life. You now get to work for 40 or more years and most can expect to be on your own. Somehow it's not the utopia that was promised...
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Men somehow seem to be judged extremely different on things such as, how they like to spend their time, their hobbies, things they spend their money on is seen as either dumb, stupid, immature, waste of time, waste of money childish etc etc. Guys like to work on cars,, it's stupid "no point to it" like to go out in the woods and doesn't want wife or anyone there? "He obviously hates his kids and wants to get away from his wife cause he hates her, he is probably cheating and will leave her soon" Plays a few hours of video games when he gets home from work? (Not those guys who spend 12+ hours on the PS4-PS5) women will still say " Oh my god that's all he EVER DOES!!! As soon as he gets on he plays that game for at least an hour or 2 ! Well yes I did tell him that he needed a hobby or some kind of project to do after work so he could unwind, but I thought he would want to knit with me or maybe do one of my hobbies with me, or maybe he would get a 2nd job to make more money for "US TO SPEND "
or possibly even start working outside doing gardening and making the yard look better so i could have something pretty to look at." Whereas almost all of women's hobbies seem to be seen as wholesome, productive, empowering, productive, chicken soup for the soul.
No, I suppose they don’t really ever grow-up. Men in their late twenties, and even well into their thirties and beyond, watch cartoons, and play video games all day! But that is part of the charm of men. You mentioned not to tell you about 40+ men. But even men over 40 have their toys, there’s a saying “the difference between men and boys, is the price of their toys”! My dad is over 40. Yet he is so proud of his Atari 2600. Apparently is immaculate, and he has all the games? He also has his “toy cars”… granted it’s a collection of very real Ferrari’s, Lamborghini’s and other rare cars, but men never truly grow up. That little boy who always dreamed of owning “Magnum P. I’s” Ferrari… Well, if he can afford it when he gets older, he’ll buy it! But that’s part of the charm of men. That beautiful little boy they used to be, is still very much alive and well, and just itching to play with his toys! A recent study showed that while women were more likely to collect things like souvenirs from vacations, or housewares like antique teapots or teacups and the like. Men were much more likely to collect model cars, toys or movie memorabilia like action figures” from their own childhood, OR actual cars and motorcycles, if the have the financial resources to afford them! While it may seem odd or immature to us, I’m sure they don’t understand why we enjoy crafting so much! That must be why the French say, “Vive la différence”! Just… live for the differences!
Great question, thanks for asking it.
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I wouldn't say men are more immature as a whole- they're just different and they have different priorities. There's differences among them, too. Generally, women take a more holistic approach to living their lives by prioritizing balance between work, family, self-care, and other responsibilities. Men work hard, play hard, and repeat. Everything from their home, car, or whatever else goes to the wayside.
It's why partnerships are beneficial. Compatible couples are an efficiency machine.
Generally speaking, it takes guys longer to learn communication. Other than that, men and women are pretty on par maturity-wise.
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384 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Not to any great extent. I'm 61 but I still like doing the same things I didn't when I was 16... or even 6 for that matter. Hanging around with my friends is the best part. What has changed that instead of playing football on our front lawns we are playing golf. Instead of bicycle riding we're now riding motorcycles. Instead of plinking with.22 rifles we're shooting expensive and sophisticated rifles and shotguns. Instead of doing a little fishing in a local we're going deep sea fishing off the Florida Coast. And of course, instead of getting together for a Cub Scout meeting, everyone comes over for drinks.
Who in their right mind would ever want to change this? well, women.
My SO is always harping about how I never have time for her.
Let's see, I could hang with the guys, or sit around listening to her complaining about her ex-husband (they've been divorced for ten years but you'd guess it was ten weeks) and the endless issues with her two adult children, her endless financial problems (which she blame son her ex-husband) all while being annoyed by her dog which has sheds so much hair you can't walk out of her place without being covered in it.
"Mike, Rick, Jack... you guys up for a trip to the range tomorrow? Great. I'll drive. Meet here at 0800 and we'll stop for breakfast."I mean I think guys view girls in a similar light. We mature in different ways, so it's easy to see where the other gender isn't maturing.
Though to an extent, there's also a thing where guys don't have the clear delineations between "boy" and "man" that we used to. Nearly every tribe has some version of a ritual where the boy is separated from the group, has to go through some challenges, and then comes back with people treating him differently. It gives a nice, clear line that makes it easier to "trigger" the more adult thinking.
With the line being blurred more, it makes it harder to make that sudden change in mindset. It used to be once you turn 18 and leave the house. Or get your first job. Or have sex for the first time. I know one that seems to be strong is when you have kids.
Though not all maturity is good. Like, there's a difference between childlike and childish. Childlike is generally good and something we should keep around our whole lives to some degree. In your case, you are talking about childishness. Though I don't have specific examples to address.I think men "grow up" after they've found their cause in life. A guy's first initiative is a career/form of income. Pussy can come and go during that period, but females take everything to heart and think love at first sight is a true story. After they've achieved a great job, then they are looking for a lifetime companion, and maybe start a family. U don't want to be around those grumpy old men who have regrets and take it out on everyone else! Be happy to know some guys w/immature tendencies 😆
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I will probably will be shot for saying this. But I think their out look on life is just different.
I've met men who have dealt with some really stressful situations, held down jobs, still been a family man.
But because they chose to have a mistress completely written off for all else they do.
It's an awful thing to say but life doesn't reward you for being a Martyr!
I'm not condoning cheating or all the other things that cause people pain.
But sometimes looking at situations differently will show you, it's not immaturity or refusal to the responsibility or backing down.
It's literally because they see things differently to us.
Some people are serious, mature, boring, rigid. Whereas others are funny, immature, relaxed, adaptable.
I don't know if this is making any sense. But you have to take the person for who they are, not what you expect! 955 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Yes but it´s a decision a person makes. It doesn´t come with an age rather with a change of character and situation. One born as a male but being a man is a choice and there are guys that don´t want to make the choice to do so because they can´t handle responsibility.
I can´t tell you when at what age that will happen but there are still guys that grow up. The moment arises when he finds a way to manage life and work on a healthy basis and has a clear set of values and expectations.
If that´s the structure of his life then he´s a man. Everything besides that is a comparison of apples and peaches in terms of comparing male and female behavior when it comes to majurity. Because men and women have a different view on the world we have different goals and work differently for good reasons.-
I see what you mean because man in their 40's grow up to be more responsible and had to mature a lot faster and parents didn't baby them back when they are kids. Unlike man our age born in 1992-1994 they were all momma's boy some are 28 ,29 ,30 and still acting childish because they are still a mommas boy. Now man in their 40's act a lot more responsible and mature. My cousin he is now 42 but at that time when he was 21 he had a real job own a house and took his job seriously. Now a days 30 year olds are still living with mommy.
Of the three criterion you have mentioned; logic, emotion, and spirituality, the latter two are completely abstract and subjective. And the first is incorrect, men are generally more logical and less emotional (not immature) than women. From the minute men become adults we are told that whatever you do, there are consequences and no one is going to come and help you out. Does a man hold a job, pay the bills, pay his taxes, registered for the draft, then he is mature enough. Mature doesn't mean that men exist to please women and validate them.
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Well, look at how much responsibility thrust upon you when you're still a little girl! You're 9 or 10 and, suddenly, you've got tits and have to start wearing bras. a couple years later, you find yourself bleeding on a regular basis and you not only have to learn to deal with that but also, now, you have to be really careful about the possibility of getting pregnant. You gotta learn how to cook, breastfeed, do laundry, take care of babies! That's a LOT of growing up you have to do before you're even out of high school!! Guys don't have to deal with any of that unless they get out on their own and/or get a girl pregnant and choose to stay with her or get married.
Maturity is subjective and based on personal perspective on what they feel constitutes maturity... I still like watching cartoons, but I still go to work. I say stupid wild shit playing video games, but I just filed my taxes. Like everyone else, I gotta work all day and walk through life while people impose their beliefs and throw generalizations around about my skin, hair, sex, hobbies, with everything in between, only to die in the end. Sometimes you gotta let your inner child take a crack at the wheel.
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Depends on the guy and his environment. What you are asking is emotional development and I was a messed up scared and wounded little boy. A very hard project for a mature woman and easy prey for one with low morals. Took me til well over 40.
Our society is turning out boys not men. Look for good parents and become one. - 535 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic.
Yes, men grow up. Sometimes later than others. There is no “average age” for emotional maturity - just depends on the individual.
For “logical maturity” it was said to be 25 when their brains are fully developed, but now there’s new studies saying 43 years old.
I mean, it’s not always accurate. You have 20 year olds who are more mature than their fathers… And 45 year olds who act like their 12 year olds sons. It just depends on the individual I suppose. - Anonymous(30-35)
I actually went with an older girl because I found girls in your ag bracket to be overall too childish still when it comes to serious long term commitment. I just couldn't take the games anymore and I'm not fighting over you with other men who you also share a bed with. Not you specifically but I notice this more with girls under 35 in general. Also the attitudes a lot have now. I'd say that my chances of finding a girl in that younger bracket and being able to stick with her would be much more slim then with an older woman who realizes what she's really got. Not to blow steam up my own ass but I don't screw around, I'm loyal, in loving, I'm nurturing, and I'm a good listener and I know most guys aren't that combination of things so for me I'm a prize because I won't do you dirty and I'm a very giving person as well.
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Well, I'm damn near 50, my house is full of Disney stuff and I have a 1980s arcade in one bedroom. I also work, pay my bills and support my kids.
I think the issue is that what you think of as growing up and what someone else might think of as growing up are different things.
My ex-wife used to call me childish because of my hobbies. She would do that while being self centered, self absorbed, self obsessed, and self worshiping. Maturity is subjective. Maybe you're too mature for your age? Personally, I am 26 and I actually find guys to be adequately mature as they enter their late 20s. If I were you, I would date guys in their early to mid 30s. (Guys tend to officially become very mature in their 30s). I wouldn't go for 40s. Its unlikely you would have anything in common with a guy that old either, unless you're looking for a daddy figure or a mentor who has tons of advice to give you.
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Just check out how he and his mom interact…then decide if she is worthy of your time to take over as his mom or if she will ever allow you to take over… age doesn’t necessarily play in this equation.
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This really depends on the individual and the family. The question is really generalizing. Also, I don't think itnis healthy to lose touch of one's youthful side. As long as you can take accountability and show up responsibily in your life who cares if you want to be a little goofy.
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When DESIRED females NO LONGER endure those guy's immaturity!
Any SANE animal only affects change to permit 'access' to desired resources...
'Skinnerian Conditioning' "What behaviors get POSITIVE reinforcement?"
Yep, ... THAT simple! : ( We are all children and may act that way sometimes, but I am sorry that you find yourself interacting with boys and not men, especially as this is in the age range of careers emerging. We are all looking for awesome partners and often find that in that search we lose hope.
Some of us were born 40, as some of my family, friends and coworkers say about myself (now 41).
The mature men you see are out there, maybe just not perhaps in the areas you currently are.- Anonymous(30-35)
Men act like children because it’s fun.
But being boyish isn’t childish.
Mentally it’s most women never mature.
Women more often than men:
- act like entitled spoiled children.
- dress in ridiculous clothing with no concept of shame or dignity.
- whine and throw tantrums when they don’t get their way.
- run to an authority when someone says or does something they don’t like.
- Use shaming tactics to silence people they disagree with.
- don’t understand basic logic when it comes to responsibility for their actions.
The list goes on. - 1.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic.
That is just sort of a "lash out" question.
Of course they do. Some are mature... some not as with all people.
You are just venting your frustrations.
Lastly, all people should keep a little part of their hearts that can remain a "little kid" for life.
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