Don’t you think modern women have got it wrong?

[Anonymous]

Modern society tells women to get an education (which is important).

But they’re determined to be a boss bitch.

Then hit 30-40 with money in the bank and a house. But no kids and no man.

by 2030 50% of women won’t be married at 30+.

Modern women aren’t what men are attracted to.

I have a question. Why do women want to be men these days? It’s disgusting. I don’t want to date a man.

I agree modern women/mindset have got it wrong

Disagree

[jeemm]

I don't exactly know or care about what others do regarding femininity or masculinity. People should do what they want to be happy as long as they don't take away that happiness from others via their actions.

I'm sure you'll find a girly girl who is nothing but a tool because they certainly do exist but don't expect others to conform to your ideals of what a woman should or shouldn't be. That also means you shouldn't let others decide what a man is, be the man you want to be.

Maybe plan on moving to Saudi Arabia or Afganistan, women over there really fit your ideals.

[HighValue]

There is more to it than that.

1. Many women that get an education take too long. A bachelors only takes 5 years so why are they 30+ when they get it?

2. The problem isn't them having a degree, the problem is all the debt that usually comes with it which means that she needs to work full time for 10+ years afterwards in order to pay off that debt, leaving her around mid 30s before she finally has time to raise a family, which is often too late.

3. While in college, many are promiscuous which makes them undesirable to GOOD men. Then they are often only appealing to the undesirable men that have a bad past.

4. If they buy a house and the man buys a house before they meet, who is going to move and lose all of their investment? Unless they have been paying on their house for 10+ years, they have been paying mostly interest and not gaining equity, which means those years paying for that house are lost/wasted if they move. That means they cannot move to be together in a relationship and are undesirable as a long term mate.

Solutions:

1. If they avoid being promiscuous and don't ruin their looks by getting fat or having tattoos so they are desirable to a GOOD man, they could get one much easier in their early 20s.

2. Once they have their first kid, if she stays home until the kids are school age, she could go to college online while at home. Her living expenses are provided for her so all she needs to do is pay for college, which is often more affordable when taking courses online.

3. Once the kids are school age she may be in her late 20s or around 30, having already secured a good man for an exclusive LTR and started a family, then with little debt from college, she can put her degree to use and work in whatever job she trained for.

So the problem isn't that they go to college or get a degree. The problem is often the order in which they do it. And of course the promiscuity ruins their chances of getting a good mate either way.

[boggboss]

My definition of a women or man isn't someone with a house or money in the bank so I guess it's not a issue for me

[Anonymous]

It doesn't matter what you think because I still see women (married or not) have children! They realize they don't need another "man" because sometimes the men are also big babies that they have to care for and they're TIRED of it! I personally would RATHER be independent because then I don't NEED to rely on ANYONE for my needs! And if he divorces you/ cheats on you/ abuses you and you're not ready out there in the world to fend for yourself and you don't got no family support, you're pretty much screwed!

FACTS.

[Ksiskg]

36-45 and still no one wants you. No surprise

[Opinion Owner]

@Ksiskg Thanks for the insult but I am HAPPIER this way so nice try.

[MCheetah]

Women, and anyone else, should be allowed to have options. The PROBLEM is, when too many women choose a career and being masculine b*tches no one wants with impossible standards for men, and the population starts to decline.

But what can you do though, as no one can force others into being miserable by having a family and kids with people you don't want to be around (though some conservatives are certainly trying to, as soon as anyone brings up abortion).

The entire population of people have to change their mindsets, in order for things to change. And while yes, women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships, I'm not going to blame it all on them, as many men want to die childless nowadays too (I am one of them, though it has more to do with my genetics and me not wanting to produce children, then it does with me being "anti-family" or anything like that.)

Your poll options don't accurately reflect how I feel, so I'd vote for "Other." SOME women can choose to be childless and career focused, as long as they are the majority of women and the birth rates aren't declining due to it.

[MCheetah]

*aren't the majority of women

[Sirenboobzilla]

As someone who near fits the description, really couldn't care less what other people may think. I'm living life the way I want. I work hard for my money so that I can afford what I want.

My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 2 years. I make 35k more than he does. I make enough money to live by myself in close proximity to NYC. I literally don't need a man to support me. And I'm not one to tolerate someone wanting me to be a subservient housewife.

What I do want, and expect, is companionship and love. That simple.

Also, why do aome men attribute us being so self sufficient as man-ish?

[Asker]

Men signify strength women do not

[Asker]

It’s good you are self sufficient but this whole I don’t need a man shit is ugly and leading to a gender divide

[Asker]

You’re basically saying you don’t need us, so F off and be single then. Leave us men alone so we can find someone better who will value and RESPECT US.

[Asker]

Don’t forget men built everything you look at today. Also I’d hate to be your boyfriend you just insulted him online. I bet he’s a pussy

[Sirenboobzilla]

You contradict yourself quite a bit.

Let's break it down in a way that you may understand.

Men may have built everything, but absolutely none of you would be alive if a woman didn't birth you.

In no part of my argument did I say that I don't need a man. If I didn't, o wouldn't be dating one now would I?

You imply that modern women don't have any use for men, that we'd rather remain single. If so, why would we need to leave you alone when we aren't looking for you in the first place?

boyfriend is well aware of the wage gap. At no point did I say it as an insult. I listed exactly what I want from a man and he provides it. You're the one who threw insult.

As for strength, dude... what kind of 'strong' man comes on an app and anonymously complains about not being able to get women? That's pretty weak if you ask me.

If you don't like the modern woman, that's perfectly fine. Go find yourself a more traditional one. They still exist.

Now go. Go off and find one. Be a man, not a bitch

[Asker]

Exactly, so men and women NEED each other. You’re too dumb to realise that. I also know I can earn up to a million a year with my education and family set up. How’s that for not needing a complaining woman haha 😂

[Asker]

Women have achieved more college degrees from the year 2000 yet men are still way ahead of woman and the number of male billionaires is ever increasing. Men signify strength women signify kids and love

[Asker]

The only reason you can get to work is because of what men built for us all. Yet you don’t need a man. You just need to suck your ego like your thumb at night

[Asker]

Anyway I’m finished here. Hopefully your man’s has the sense to dump you. He is not respected and valued he’s just a spare part in your life. He should run

[Sirenboobzilla]

You're not capable of reading much eh?

Where's your dad? I wasn't planning on having children, but after having to read your lame excuse for manhood I want to fuck him and give him a son who can actually function in society

[Asker]

Oh right you don’t want children. Good, just die out. at least you recognise your life is worthless and you have NOTHING to give 😂 Trust me I’ll find a girl a million times prettier and better than you, she’ll likely be more educated than you. Seen as I only ever meet educated girls with my profession.

[Asker]

You’re not even man enough to have kids you’re too weak

[Sirenboobzilla]

You're not man enough to post so we can see who you are. Ya know who does that though? Weak minded bitch boys

[Asker]

Such a bitch reply. I’m new here. I don’t want you sluts stalking me. You have no argument so you resort to my anonymous status 😂
Go cry over your period cramps. Just think there’s women that would kill to have kids. What a waste

[Sirenboobzilla]

So says the little bitch crying on here instead of paying attention to the woman you supposedly have

[mandyfire98]

@Sirenboobzilla, I think you're my favorite person haha.

[Asker]

Boob is in your name as you’re just a sex object for men. No one wants to plant a kid in that 😂

[Sirenboobzilla]

The way you talk I'd be surprised if you could find the right hole to get it all started

[Asker]

You’re used to men putting it in the ass as no one wants to impregnate you 😂

[Sirenboobzilla]

I don't do anal. I'd love to peg you though

[Asker]

You wish you had a man like me that could tear you in half with my chopper

[Sirenboobzilla]

Aww don't be like that. Come here and bend over. Mama's gonna be gentle with that tight little bootie

[Asker]

Mama? You aren’t even good enough to have kids. Man wannabe

[Sirenboobzilla]

Now now. Behave or I won't use any lube

[Sirenboobzilla]

That's no way to talk to your mama

[whirled_up_girl]

Well I looked for a husband when I was in my 20s. When I couldn't find one I decided to get an education, but I choose nursing which is a female dominated profession, so I don't know how modern that makes me. Self sufficient is what I was going for, if plan A doesn't work then on to Plan B.

[Dinklex3]

What? Loo.

People encourage us to get educated and jobs so that we can be financially stable adults. Not to "get men".

We do not have to be reliant on someone else's income.

People who want kids and a man will have them. People who don't, won't.

You do not speak for all men.

The men I am attracted to are attracted to me as well.

[LazerBean]

So is my your ideal marriage structure made up of a husband making the money and the wife not working and just taking care of the home and kids?

[Asker]

Not I think girls should work a bit too

[LazerBean]

How many hours should a wife with kids work?

[Asker]

I’ve not done the calculations. But many women receive maternity pay

[LazerBean]

Just give a rough estimate. 40 hours? 30 hours?

[Anonymous]

Maybe men are dropping the ball and women are looking for an alternative.

[Asker]

Or maybe their balls haven’t dropped yet

[Opinion Owner]

Is that from personal experience?

[Asker]

You wish you could suck my balls

[Opinion Owner]

Let me know when they drop.

[Asker]

I’m sure you’re desperate to suck them on your knees where you belong

[Asker]

Serving me

[Opinion Owner]

Where would you get the idea that some random woman online wants to suck your balls when you can’t find one in real life that does?
Men like you only get serviced by paid women. Just make sure you check for an Adam’s apple first. Otherwise, things might get awkward.

[Asker]

Let’s face it. You’re a typical I don’t need a man bitch. You’re the cause of the divide between genders and the shockingly low birth rate.

[Asker]

I’ve had girls that like me and I’ve rejected them. I’m in a good career and believe I can earn up to 1million dollars one day. You don’t know my situation and educational background. I actually come from something and not broke shit like you.

[Asker]

You don’t know who you’re talking to

[Opinion Owner]

Lmao “ You’re a typical I don’t need a man bitch” I have been committed to the same man longer than you have been committed to breathing. “ You don’t know my situation…” Right back atcha. “You don’t know who you’re talking to” Nor do I care.

[Anonymous]

Its a personal decision, their is no right or wrong.

[AsaKyo]

What's a "modern woman"