So I was scrolling through my feed as usual and I came across an interesting video song which showed a gold digger woman. And I started reading the comments. So there was this man who was arguing with a woman about objectification, equality and all. So what I gathered is that men made this world and women are just in it. Women don't contribute and he asked the woman to name any 10 inventions made by women. Women are cheaters and sell their body. And lastly there's some scientific technology which created a baby cow without a female cow so women are going to be replaced soon. As per the woman she said men cheat more, women are shamed when they don't do anything ladylike, for not being attractive enough and women face harassments, catcalls, etc by men. (PO:men face that too, no doubt. I wish they would feel safe enough to share). Also, being a housewife is a contribution in itself. The man replied that even men contribute to households but only men changed the world.
(by the way I think men sell their bods too... gym pics? Also, this whole argument made me think... Do men really think that low of us? All of us?)
Before we begin with the discussion, I would request all of you to be kind and polite. No heated arguments please. Let's all discuss this peacefully. I am choosing to ask this anonymously because I don't want to get attacked.
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Pretend for the moment that you own a factory, and the company that runs it. You're going to have a bunch of divisions within that company, simply because of the realities of running a large operation.
Now, when you think of a factory and its employees, the first group you think of are the line workers, and reasonably so- it wouldn't be a factory without them. But are they more or less important than the janitors? Or the shipping department?
Can you elaborate the point?
Sure. To achieve any big goal, there are many sub-tasks that need to be accomplished; often more than any one person can do (at least in a reasonable time frame). Having specialists lets you take on those sub-tasks with less risk and more efficiency- for example, in the task of "building a functioning human society", men were needed to go far afield and hunt down food. Could a woman do that? Sure- many did. But it was riskier, since women aren't as muscular (which makes fighting harder) or good at hand-eye coordination (which makes throwing spears harder) and are smaller (which can ward off attackers in and of itself; if they THINK you're too big to fight, they'll leave you alone).
Meanwhile, since humans are born in a late fetal stage, someone was needed to tend to the kids, and to search for food closer to home (the idea that stone-age women were pampered princesses is utter nonsense). Could a man do that? Sure- many did. But it was riskier, since men have inferior color perception (making knowing which berry is tasty and healthful and which is deadly harder) and inferior scent differentiation (vital back when food poisoning was a death sentence),
One's more glamorous than the other, no question, but both are necessary.
That's a beautiful explanation. I think one should utilise their skills.
Exactly. Since every last one of us is a collaborative project between a man and a woman, we all have some combination of masculine and feminine traits, and sometimes a person isn't comfortable or happy with the role they're born into; it makes perfect sense to allow for some flexibility. As a rule, if you preface any given gender norm with "usually"', the vast majority of associated problems just go away.
And I also believe that gender norms are way too rigid that's why many people feel the need to change their identity and all. They be like God made you this, be this. Yeah well they also made me this way so I don't find the gender norms relatable hence I feel the need to change.