Do you believe that men aren't masculine anymore?

[chris_987]

[Anonymous]

Yeah. I used to date a make feminist. Honestly at first it was good but it was really like dating another woman, I swear the guy got periods and I couldn't see him in a sexual way after he had be do him with a very large strap on. I didn't so much as break up with him as much as I left with some real alpha male asshole who was being crude to me and bullying my ex.

[chris_987]

If you have a son you could only raise him to be a feminine man though. So you're kind of proving the point, Why women shouldn't be leaders

[Opinion Owner]

That's why you marry a masculine man.

[Rei13]

No there are plenty of masculine men. It just depends on who you’re surrounding yourself with. I also don’t see an issue with men or women embracing different masculine/feminine traits. It is a spectrum and most people won’t be extremely one way or the other. In general tho people are just softer than they would’ve been in previous generations since their lives were more difficult

[chris_987]

In my experience women are more masculine. Girls wouldn't wear what men wear in the past

[provokeesmokee]

Nah.

And funnily enough, I find that the men who are the most masculine in my life are the men who don't feel threatened by femininity. They know they're manly and they don't need anyone's validation of that.

[chris_987]

Well I would argue that women aren't even feminine anymore. The rules have been switched. When are the feminine ones and women are the masculine ones

But girls are in denial that they're masculine

[provokeesmokee]

Not all. I know many women who embrace their masculinity and femininity together.

Frankly, I find when people put too much identity until things that are fluid and on a spectrum like femininity and masculinity, they really only limit themselves.

Personally, I mix both masc and femme and like it. Likewise, I prefer people who can embody both or either as they feel fit to.

Why limit what is human in us? Makes no point to me.

[chris_987]

That's not what I see. I see girls that fight guys because they know they can't hit them back. I see girls that wear male clothing because it's socially acceptable to do so. I see girls that have long sharp nails and would abort their baby without giving it a second thought.

There are still obviously feminine women here and there. But the majority act very masculine and are only conditionally feminine.

100 years ago or even a thousand years ago. Women will raise to be submissive for a man. That's why you look at these movies or even read old books. Girls were very dainty and would just faint at the side of hearing certain things. So whether it was guys rescuing them from dragons or saving them from evil witches? It was pretty much agreed on that. Women need to be saved.

If women can save themselves then men don't feel the need to be masculine so the two cancel each other out.

[provokeesmokee]

Lol, you know there were lesbians who dressed like men AND women back in Victorian times, right?

There was a famous French lesbian opera singer and duelist who would routinely duel men then perform in the opera that evening, after kissing their wives when she killed them in the duel?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Masculinity and femininity are not math equations. Humans can and frequently do have both aspects of that within them.

And it isn't a weakness, either. For thousands of years, cultures around the world - especially pre-colonial cultures untouched by Christianity or White Puritanism - not only recognized but venerated those of "the Third Gender" who encompassed both masculine and feminine?

You need more history and less Andrew Tate.

Humanity isn't math.

[chris_987]

Well then this question isn't directed to you then because you believe that men are masculine but there are plenty of girls that see a guy who doesn't want to pay on their first date as feminine. So this question doesn't even apply to you.

[Randogirl491]

I don't believe that. It's just that some people, especially from older generations think that masculine = wife beating rapist who despise women and doesn't bathe. Being a decent man who also looks beautiful doesn't make one not masculine.

[Smashingdoozy]

No, there's plenty of masculine men. Having variety is normal. You don't have to be masculine all the time and there's nothing wrong with being a feminine man or embracing some femininity as a man.

[Anonymous]

I feel like Gen z and young millennials are pretty much a bunch of pretty boys cuz the male influencers of their generations are either tiktok boys or kpop boys , even the Hollywood boys that are deemed heartthrobs are more feminine looking like Timothy Chaka met and Tom holland

[Anonymous]

There are plenty of masculine men. They just aren’t chronically online and on Reddit forums bitching about women. Most masculine men live in reality. Same with traditional women.

[sage2021]

I see a lot that are and a lot that are on the feminine side. What's the point?

[agnesbraswell]

Increased quality of life makes you softer. Ancient Romans were tough by today's standards. The Barbarians thought they were pampered pussies.

[chris_987]

You're obsessed with ancient Rome too

[Anonymous]

A lot of them aren't and it doesn't help that a lot of the foods and plastics contain hormone disrupting agents

[4ngelic]

no i think most are masculine enough

[chris_987]

Your 106 How would
you know?

[4ngelic]

i'm 22

[sheikalana]

A lot of men are loosing their masculinity.

[chris_987]

But isn't that because women wanted men to lose their power? So if you emasculate men, wouldn't the outcome be more feminine men?

[sheikalana]

I never wished for men to lose their power. That's the feminists and I'm not a feminist and never been.