Why do guys choose girls they clearly know are sluts over loyal woman?

[Anonymous]

Why do guys always say they want loyal girls and then choose sluts. Any decent looking guy is going to be distributed a slut because there’s maybe 1 per class and they can spot any ok to handsome guy and claim him even if they’re not attracted to him. It’s clear these girls are overly social with every guy, talk about sex with anyone, explicitly say how they’ll sleep with anyone, or at least say things that expose their poor morals. Yet, guys will still pick them? I don’t get why?

It’s leaves nothing for the rest of us and conflicts with any decent thought process of maybe don’t date a slut? This isn’t even to bash those girls, they’re need to have any attractive guy makes things insanely difficult for anyone else and I maybe dislike them but it’s the mass decision making of the boys that that really confuses me. Why do guys do this?

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for reference I am a senior in high school which is why I mentioned class

[razelove]

Well, judging by your question it's an immediate return over investment scenario. It's only within the last 60 years that women could be sluts without being infertile, pregnant, or leaving kids to the church.

Guys have a drive to fill holes like a roadwork crew. Otherwise there wouldn't be a boomer generation (or human race). All those WWII vets came back, and took out their shell shock on their wives until the vietnam war. 8 kids later they thought about what to do with the rest of their lives...

Most of them were about the age you are now, and likely were sluts, up until the point they got knocked up. There also wasn't DNA testing, so the daddy they chose was the daddy they had to stick with.

Now though a woman can be a slut with zero consequences, even HIV can be treated to non consequence with AZT. I remember being appalled in like 2019 when I went to Vegas for work and no one was using condoms except the hookers.

Anyway, when you only think about poles in holes, sluts are the way to go. When you think about having a family, it gets a bit deeper, and the loyal, more traditional woman seems like the pick. It's a question of maturity, time, and place I suppose.

[Flatmanlewis]

Well, truthfully, you're talking about high school so it’s not like healthy or mature relationships tend to develop at this age range anyhow. The bad news, is this will be the norm through high school and most of college. All men love a flirty, fun, sexy girl. Only later in life when their priorities change (ideally anyhow) will most men start aligning their interests to match a girl of more substance.


This is not a mathematical fact but rather a gross generalization. Add to that you single out ‘attractive guys’ as the target and understand that a young man who has a bunch of girls throwing themselves at him isn’t going to seek out the average looking girl who’s the sweet but plain looking girl. That just doesn’t happen except in movies. He’s going to hang in there until he gets the “both” in a pretty girls who is also sweet. There are plenty of those. You may have to adjust your expectations to find a more average guy than the hottest guy in the class.

[LazerBean]

Because those particular boys are usually also sluts. Also, there's a fair amount of guys who are not sluts and therefore are not interested in sluts. So no, the male sluts are not "leaving nothing for the rest of us". If you don't see any good guys around, that really only speaks of yourself. The whole blaming stuff on the opposite gender is a huge sign to have some introspection and see where you can change yourself to get better results.

[MikeTheBartender]

Well said.

[Anonymous]

I feel like younger men do that because they want sex and the sluts are more likely to give it to them. As you get older, most men steer away from those type of women when settling down because they want the good girl to marry. They don’t want someone who’s giving themself to any and everyone.

[Opinion Owner]

The only guys who won’t mess with a slut are good guys. But when ur young, most girls are intrigued by the bad boys. And again- we all know what the bad boys want.

[V_Injector]

A lot of dudes don't even choose, and they basically get chosen. They might of gone months without pussy, so they feel like they're just taking what they can get. Sure some few guys have an abundance mindset, but they just hold out on relationships... they still fuck what they can fuck because fuckers gotta fuck.

Me... hookers and cocaine baby.

Did somebody say hookers and cocaine?

[AlcoholicAngel]

Some men, sadly, are either immature and have yet to have let their balls drop, or are sick of trying to form real relationships with loyal woman. This is probably because as you and I both know, the sluts are everywhere, and men are simple creatures who will take any flirting as either funny or a sign of love, leading to them falling for before mentioned sluts. Continuous hurt via contact with sluts leads these men to lose faith in ever finding a real women, so they just stick to their cheap drugs and cough syrup, all the while never being able to see the pure dopamine and tequila that's just around the corner.

[Anonymous]

Because those girls are for fun. Chances are the man isn’t looking for something serious if he’s going after women like that. I think it goes both ways. Women tend to pick out of that top percentage of men who have numerous choices, so they’re not willing to settle down. Now the dudes who would settle down w a nice girl aren’t even being looked at. So women put all men in that category of the hookup culture when most men aren’t even involved w that. Plus no dudes are really looking to find a girl in high school to settle down w for the rest of their life. I know I wasn’t because I knew there was more out there to see as far as the world. Joining the military, traveling. Meeting women from all over the world. Women tend to be the ones who want to meet someone right away.

[Asker]

Any guy I've spoken to has said it's much better to meet a girl way and settle for like and sleep around and settle later. Also there's a reason women like to settle early. The world is much more dangerous for women so having a man from the second you go into it makes it much easier to navigate things especially when there are so many traffickers and creeps.

[Asker]

meet a girl early and settle down than sleep around and settle later*

[Opinion Owner]

Sure the world may be more dangerous, not just for women, but for men as well. The majority of people aren’t in danger though. It’s just their perception, their reality so when the person is stuck in their reality they only see things in life that reinforce their ideology of what they think. As for the dudes who told you that, that may be a handful, maybe even friends of yours who told you that because most men aren’t going to be honest w women. Many men play to what women want to make their chances of hooking up w her better.

[Asker]

Even as a highs school girl just going into town a I've been stalked and followed. I've had adult men try to get me alone in public spaces. For men the world is dangerous but not as sexually and as often on the daily. It's scary to be a woman and going to college makes things worse because you're away from home making you more easy to prey on.

[Asker]

I've also been threatened for ignoring cat calls stuff like that is dangerous and the only way to avoid it is having a guy with you

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. I don’t think that’s a majority of women. Like I said if they’re living in a reality where everyone is scary or dangerous to them they’re going to always find something to backup their ideology. Just like if I hated women I’d always find the things that make me say see this is why I hate women. I have two daughters myself, 3 sisters, they’ve never had issues growing up. Maybe they’re just lucky I don’t know. Most women I know have never had that issue. About 1/4 of the women I know are married, the other 1/4 are dating and 1/2 are single. I bunk too a lot of times, especially younger girls don’t take responsibility for theirselves. Going to parties, getting drunk off their ass, not knowing where they are, etc. No I’m not justifying rape or something like that, people in general just don’t take proper precautions. I’m a grown man, but I know not to go to certain areas on my own, or to even go to those areas.

[Asker]

Any girl I've ever met has had those experiences. I don't go to “certain areas” I go to town, I go to my friends house, I go to parks. It could be a friends creepy ugly over for a day, a garbage collector, a father with his kids, or a shopkeeper, does not matter. You cannot expect it or not expect it from anyone. Vast majority of my friends and myself do not drink or go out. It's just how the world is for most women. I don’t know what type of beautiful fantasy white catholic gated community area you live in but that's not the general reality. Also imagine how insane it is that going out past sunset is a reasoning to get assaulted. I want to be a person who can go and and have fun and hike and go to festivals or a bonfires etc but it's not safe enough. Like I said those are only things I would be able to do with a man near to so to ensure I wouldn't get drugged, or followed or threatened or even raped. Life is easier when you have a male companion because other men know not to harass you. Men don't see it because men don't do it around other men unless they are harassing in a group which is also another unfortunate occurrence of which I've experienced myself.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol funny you assume I’m catholic, that in white or I live in a gated community. I’m Hispanic n Native American. My girl is Hispanic, we live in a descent area in Phoenix. But w that said no need to further explain you’re set in your state of mind. Won’t ever change. Good luck to you.

[Asker]

I'm Honduran moved to a rural Hispanic community in the US when I was 7. All I can say is you must be lucky.

[Opinion Owner]

I’m not lucky just made sure to do my research on the area before I purchased a home here.

[Asker]

Like I had a choice…

[Opinion Owner]

What does that mean?

[Asker]

I'm saying i couldn't control where I was raisedor where my parents moved. I'm in high school. There are very few communities where woman don’t face some type of harrassment and many of those areas are very expensive or at least hard to find. You're acting is if i could decide where to life at 7 and then saying that it's not that the world is safe for women it's that some locations are safe but a large portion aren't

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. You’re an adult now. Make the change. Yes we can’t always control our own lives when we’re children, but I did. Rather than living in the same community in Cali that had gangs I joined the military, now I’m in Az.

[Asker]

Finding a good college in a non populated and dangerous area is tough because all cuties have crime but yeah I'll keep that in mind. Look I'm not against keeping myself safe but i will say that fact that the suggestion is join the military or do some extreme bs to avoid getting sexually assaulted in public says enough that women truly are not safe in most places. That's all I'm saying. Also I still don't think young marriage or coupling is a bad idea as it provides financial aid and still that extra lawyer of protection. Still not quite sure why your against but to each their own

[Opinion Owner]

I’m not saying to join the military. I’m saying that’s what I did to change my situation. You need to do the same. Otherwise no matter where you go you’ll always have that same mentality. Make your life what you want it. Life is hard for everyone. You can’t predict all of life’s problems, but you can prepare to limit their impact w some preparations.

[tremendousfern]

"Any decent looking guy is going to be distributed a slut because there’s maybe 1 per class"

"they’re need to have any attractive guy"

Before I jump to conclusions, I want to make sure I understand your question correctly. How large are your class sizes? I find it difficult to believe there's only one 1 decent looking guy in each class.

[Asker]

Classes are about 15-30 (half girls half guys) there are typically only 0-3 guys in a class who are attractive sometimes none but, I was referring to 1 slut per class. That 1 girl can easily talk to that either that one for all 3 of those guys because once they spot them they're going to start making advances on at least one most of the time all

[tremendousfern]

Okay that's what I thought then. Your standards are way too high. 3 attractive guys out of a class of 15 dudes (the other 15 girls) is just 20%. You're only pursuing the most attractive 20% of men. Have you considered instead trying to date some of the ugly guys?

I know I know, a horrifying thought, but have you considered the possibility that those 0-3 attractive guys in each class don't consider you one of the 0-3 attractive girls?

[Asker]

Men typically have a broader idea of what's attractive in women than women do in men. The ones I'm ruling out are guys who don’t care about school, are shorter than me, or seriously ugly (4 or below looks wise) I can guarantee I'm at least in the top 30% because I've constantly been rated above average at least a 7 and I put lots of effort into my looks. Also would you want a girl to date you who find you ugly, no? Me neither. It’s not fair the person plus If I find my boyfriend ugly how am I supposed to kiss him go out with him? That's cruel

[Asker]

Also when I say 0-3 attractive guys per class that's exploding guys with girlfriends and known assholes. So the real estimate may be around a 5 but honestly I just live in an area where most guys aren't very tall or fit. A lot are fat and under 5’5”, a lot don't care about college or their grades. Most who don't fit that have 6 billion girls on their phone.

[Asker]

Excluding*

[tremendousfern]

"I can guarantee I'm at least in the top 30%" Perhaps, but I think the evidence shows otherwise because if you really were a true 7, you wouldn't be here talking about how you can't find a man because hotter girls snatch them up before you.

I think what's much more likely is you have an inflated ego and unrealistic expectations for the kinds of men you are able to pull. If you had said there were maybe 7-8 decent looking guys in your class, that'd be one thing, but it's really obvious that you're only interested in the 1 or 2 hot guys and I'm sorry to say but they are only interested in the 1 or 2 hot girls.

"Also would you want a girl to date you who find you ugly?" When I was young and dumb, no. But I learned to make a point of trying to date "ugly" girls or in other words, I lowered my standards to be more realistic and pursue the average looking girls, of which there are lots. Just like how there are lots of average looking men, it's just that you have such unrealistically high expectations that you think there's at most 3 in each class, sometimes none.

Something else to consider too: you complained to other people a lot about how you don't like these guys who have been tainted by sluts. Have you considered the possibility that these ugly guys you've been avoiding have better personalities because they aren't as attractive? Or that they would be more loyal because a girl that they felt was out of their league was interested in them?

I mean, ultimately you can set your standards however you like, but these are just things that I've considered as well.

[Asker]

The difference between me and those girls isn't looks have had one of them come crying to me about how to get attention and how to be pretty etc etc. The difference is I don't give it up like they do, I don't seek out guys for validation, I don't post my boobs on the internet, I don't talk to everyone about sex and what I'm willing to do. I've been asked out by plenty of decent looking guys, popular guys but I've rejected them because they're assholes. Truly attrcatve guys don't seek girls like them out. They seek them out that's the issue. If these girls got chosen minding their business i wouldn't care but, they gravitate to the only attractive guys even sometimes the ugly ones for attention. Attractive guys don't go up to girls at all because they know sluts will seek them out and start conversation and perster them 24/7 for dick.

[Asker]

Also you're excluding the fact I live in an area where the leverage guy is around 5’5”, no intentions for college, no intentions to do well in school, and fat. Sure at any other place maybe I'd be lucky to have 5 attractive guys in my class but I live in a shit area. So yeah decency in morals and looks are low. I’m not dating a fat retard failing all his classes. That's genuinely the other option

[tremendousfern]

"I've been asked out by plenty of decent looking guys, popular guys but I've rejected them because they're assholes"

Okay, so why are you complaining then? If your school is really full of just assholes and the horrifically ugly, then it sounds like you dodged a bullet. It should be something to celebrate, especially if you don't need validation from other men. It should be enough that you have stuck to your guns about not acting like a slut and expecting the same from the men you'd be willing to date. Do you think that just because you're a good person you're entitled to date prince charming?

The way I see it is that you have two options, neither of them require compromising your own personal standards of how you behave: either lower your standards for physical attractiveness in men to try to find guys with better personalities because they aren't being pursued by hot sluts or continue only pursuing the top 20% of guys who usually go for hot slutty girls and hope that you get lucky enough to find one who isn't tainted.

[Berethor]

Because it easy to get sex from a slut, when it come to marriage guys tend to prefer a virgin.

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Nature_Adores_a_Virgin

[firenine909]

Depends on the guy not all guys behave like this. The ones who want sex want these slutty girls because they want to fuck. If the guys are only interested in sex than the guy might not care for you if you date him so I wouldn’t worry about it


If a guy does and date break up with him you’d be right bit high school guys aren’t the most mature and are more excited about getting laid vs long term dating

[Asker]

I'm not even referring to like assholes I'm not talking about terrible guys the sweetest guys or more genuine ones. A guy can be super sweet till he willingly messes with a slut and then he's ruined. Ruined for any other girl and overall just less likable. It's so sad because if anyone else got to them first they could have been completely decent guys. It's so hard to find a guy in the first place because it feels like they've all been ruined.

[firenine909]

You don’t need to be an asshole to want to fuck a cute girl and get laid. Genuine guys could be easily impressionable and very interested in hooking up with those types of girls. The girls can be bitchy too which can make a guy more irritated or the guys ego is stroked so hard he’s a big dick.

I’d suggest finding a guy with better morals or a virgin. They exist but they won’t actively pursue girls so they don’t seem as apparently visible

[ShadezMcgee]

Men your age are focused on sex, not a relationship. If sex is what they are focused on, then they will go for the slut or whore that makes it easy to get. The few men that want relationships are either ones that don't stand out or are ones that don't actively go for those women.

[OlderAndWiser]

At your age, many boys don't want a relationship; they just want sex. They want it now, they want it often, and they don't want to "work" for it. Older guys are more interested in relationships and will date nice girls. Don't assume that all men are just like high school seniors!

[Lightningbolt005]

These guys just want to sleep with these girls because they find them easy, so do you consider them sluts as well? You shouldn't be calling anyone a slut anyways, what people do is their own business and should be able to have their own sex lives.

It sounds like you might be insecure on why guys pick these "sluts" instead of you. You said you're a senior in high school which is very young. Some advice is to stay clear from these types of guys and not worry about anyone picking you to be their hookup. Most boys are looking for the "easy" girls right now and be glad that it's not you. You have a lot of time to find someone eventually down the road outside of high school life who will value you more than that.

[Anonymous]

The answer is simple; they're in high school. 90-95% of guys your age are not interested in serious, potential long-term relationships; they just want to get laid. They may get into relationships with one girl because they want to be guaranteed sex, but they'll move on to the next girl if a hotter one comes along.

It doesn't get much better in college either, where there's even more sex going on especially at major universities. If you want to find a guy who's serious about long term, first know your own goals, and then don't be afraid to tell a guy "this is what I'm looking for - sex is off the table till I find a guy with similar goals and wants". Once you tell them this, they'll fall away like you're the plague, till you find the right guy.

[Avicenna]

I'll tell you what I did to the biggest slut at school when I was a junior in high school. When she was talking to me, I turned around and kissed a fat, unattractive girl I knew didn't have a boyfriend. The slut was majorly offended because I preferred this unattractive girl to her and kissed her right in front of the slut (I was lucky the unattractive girl was kind of friend of mine so she didn't mind I did it).

[andersopau]

Oh boy, there is no polite way to answer this question except to say that slutty women are fun! Most, if not all guys, know that they are not a permanent fixture in their lives but "slutty" women who want... no... need to be fucked constantly are tons of fun in the sack. It's purely carnal.

[Billlewis]

Because most guys don't want a woman who is nice to them. To the contrary, in my case, for example, the worse she treats me, the more likely I am to fall helplessly in love with her. Isn't that strange?

[ChicoFromThe305]

Well high school is a moment when men think the most with the other head, I'd say wait until after high school if you can't find one in high school, usually teenagers mature into taking such things more seriously

[Asker]

Problem is if all the guys are getting ruined this early by time I get to college they will all have been fucked and dumped by sluts. They'll get apathetic and feel they don't have to put in effort and fell so highly of themselves they'll continue the cycle. Some will break that cycle but they then they will have like i said still a already been ruined and I really struggle with the idea of dating a guy whose been touched and ruined like that.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Well then I recommend looking into men that have a faith of a higher power, usually their morals have limitations on sexual intercourse as well, so they aren't ruined by sluts, I can assure you that you aren't alone with the feeling, sometimes I do think of the amount of women ruined by these pigs as well, but virgin men exist and virgin women do too.

[Finchie40]

Because most guy’s your age are only thinking about sex , they want a girl that’s pretty much a sure thing that will be more than likely easy for them to get into bed ,

[Bricealan]

Don't know, and have never known a 'slut'... had sex with many woman, some liked sex or seemed to... but none would I ever describe as a slut... overused and misused term... sadly

[laly520]

cuz lust for em comes before love

a slut is easy to play with, sleep with n use unlike a loyal woman who won't be into having only fun n sex

[Anonymous]

High school senior, that makes sense. You’re dealing with horny teenage boys, of course sex is all majority of them think about.

[Asker]

It's genuinely impossible to get a boyfriend because I refuse to mess with a guy who's been ruined by a girl with 6 boyfriends. If any cute guy now is getting fucked and dumped and ruined for the future them how am I expected to find a guy in college?

[Opinion Owner]

Would you feel the same if he’d had 6 girlfriends?

[Asker]

Yes.

[Asker]

Wait what do you mean? 6 girlfriends plus that girl or 6 girlfriends and tables were turned and he was the slut?

[Anonymous]

You need to understand that when guys say they want a quality, loyal woman, they are NOT talking about for casual sex. Those women are in two completely seprate categories and they serve two completely different needs.

[SolitarySolace]

Because majority of women out there today are sluts and whores what other option does a man have?

[Asker]

Literally any other woman. There are only 3 major offenders at my school but guys always pick them and guys always say all women are sluts but only pursue sluts.

[Asker]

Maybe put on your thinking cap and use your critical thinking skills to go up to choose a better girl (pro tip it's not the one with 1000 followers on Instagram, 17 exes, and a sex tape!)