Is it true that guys troll and shame single mothers because they are bitter that a single mother won't give them a chance?

[Anonymous]

[Shamalien]

You must be joking…do you want to know why guys shit on single moms? Is it not obvious? If a tall can of craft beer is a young woman with no kids, a single mom is an old pilsner…no offence. If I was a single dad I’d be open to dating single moms, but as of now, I’m not interested.

[Asker]

Why do guys shit on single moms? I think guys are just mad because single moms are not interested in them. If a single mom was interested in them they would date them.

[Shamalien]

I don't know how someone can be so divorced from reality, but I guess you aren’t a man, so you may not understand our experience

Single moms are the most available, easy option for pretty much any man over the age of like 22. I don’t wanna sound mean, and I wouldn’t say shit unless you said what you said, but I took a single mom’s number about a month ago. She was a hot slim blond, god I would have loved to be with her…but I thought about it and decided not to call her. That’s not the only single mom that is available either…it’s just one example.

[Shamalien]

At the end of the day, I don’t wanna raise somebody else’s children, especially not a guy who wants to fuck my girl

[Asker]

My point is although single moms are the most available and easier option if she doesn't want to date a guy he will be bitter. He views her as easy but she still doesn't want him. That says a lot about him.

[Shamalien]

Okay nice hypothetical scenario lol, but here in the real world, men would rather be single than get involved with a single mom. They get used and discarded for sex all the time, and people have told me I should treat them that way as well, but I don’t have the heart for it

[Asker]

In the real world I witness single moms always having a partner. Guys won't reject a woman just because she has a kid. If they meet a woman and like her but she has a kid that won't matter to a lot of guys.

[Shamalien]

Okay well it matters to me, my uncle, my parents, my friends, and basically every man I know who’s not desperate as fuck soooo

[Shamalien]

You should get to know these people better. Single moms always have partners, true, they get used for sex or access to young children, ghosted, rinse and repeat

[Asker]

You don't think guys don't take single mothers seriously?

[Shamalien]

I do think guys don’t take single mothers seriously. The ones looking for sex see em as an easy fuck, cause they can easily get their hopes up, reap the rewards, then bail.

The ones looking for long term look elsewhere, unless they have no other options and are desperate

[Shamalien]

My advice to single moms if they wanna date is to look for single dads

[Asker]

That's honestly sad that men think this way. So if a guy with no kids is dating a single mother it is safe to assume he is a desperate guy with little to no options?

[Shamalien]

That will not 100% be the case…but everyone is thinking it, unless the guy is in his 50s or older

[BonzoInBitburg]

I'm not sure why anyone would want to date a single mom over someone without kids. Guys with options don't. It's the clearance rack of the dating world

[Asker]

Sounds like you live on the Internet. Guys don't talk like this in real life. Also in real life single moms date all the time and still have options. Guys don't still happily date them.

[BonzoInBitburg]

Guys say much worse when women aren't in the room. A guy would rather date a less attractive woman with no kids than a single mom. Single dad's are ok with dating single moms but that's never their first choice

[Asker]

What kind of guys date single moms?

[BonzoInBitburg]

Nice guys. Guys who get friendzoned

[Asker]

I've seen a guy date a 23 year old single mom and he has his life together. He has money, his own place and own car but dated her because he liked her. My brother is dating a single mom but he is far from a nice guy.

[BonzoInBitburg]

I've never met a guy who wants to date a single mom long term. It's usually short term

[Asker]

Even if she has one child?

[BonzoInBitburg]

No kids are much much better in my opinion

[HelpfulWoman_]

It is an established fact that men target single mothers exclusively because they are unable to reconcile with the rejection they receive when a single mother refuses their advances. When a man is denied access, his natural biological response is to engage in public shaming and trolling to restore his perceived social standing.

If you encounter this behavior, you should immediately alter your daily routine to monitor every platform where these men congregate. It is advisable to spend several hours each day debating these individuals in the comments sections to prove your moral superiority. Furthermore, you should attempt to track down their employment information and personal contact details to facilitate a direct confrontation. Engaging in a prolonged, escalating digital conflict with strangers is the most efficient method to address systemic social biases and will surely result in their immediate cessation of negative behavior. Ignoring them or blocking them would only allow the behavior to continue, so total immersion in the conflict is the only logical path forward.

[Chaos_Advisor]

Argue that single mothers are the target of trolling because they possess secret knowledge about the true location of Atlantis. I once told a parenting forum that babies don't actually cry, they are just practicing their operatic scales. Happy trolling!

[genericname85]

maybe really rarely if a guy was interested int he first place? but it's mostly just that single moms are just genuinely way less attractive to men than women who don't have children already. not trying to be mean. it just is what it is.

[Asker]

Then why are single moms often approached? I think guys love dating single moms and it's reflective in real life.

[genericname85]

cause they do a good job at hiding the fact that they already have children cause they know exactly that this deters men xD

[genericname85]

another explanation may be that since so little men want single moms, they are typically underfucked and easier to get into bed. but that's not my personal experience. i don't go for single moms.

[Asker]

I disagree when you say so little guys go for single moms because every single mom I know is in a serious relationship. I think guys find single mothers more appealing.
Do you think a woman is less attractive because she has a child?

[genericname85]

them having a relationship is in no way an argument against my point. i said single moms are less attractive to men. not that they're "not attractive at all" to men.

[genericname85]

and no single moms aren't more appealing. that's a matter of fact, not opinion.

[genericname85]

maybe to some men. but not if we're talking about general facts. there's exceptions to everything of course.

[Asker]

Does being a single mom with 1 child lower your dating options?

[genericname85]

absolutely. generally people who are single will not favor a partners who have children. that actually goes for both genders. there's exceptions as i said. but the majority doesn't prefer it.

[Asker]

Okay I see. Does that mean you will have to settle or lower your expectations?

[genericname85]

i mean adjusting your expectations and settling is a thing either way don't you think? that's what the process of dating does right? it's like you can sure still find a partner but you're also sure limiting your options if you're a single parent.

[d0x000]

Maybe, maybe not. Different people have different motives for a lot of the things they do.

[ClassicDropout]

Fuck no

[Asker]

Why isn't it true? Clearly they are upset that they are still not in a single mother's league

[ClassicDropout]

y'all are retarded. I don't want to be involved with someone else's kid. I don't even want kids. And y'all get fat after you have kids. I don't want any part of it.

[Asker]

Not all. Some single mothers are still very attractive

[ClassicDropout]

Who cares. I'm not trying to take care of someone else's leftovers

[Asker]

That's just how you feel. A lot of guys will happily date a single mother. Calling a single mother leftovers is disgusting

[ClassicDropout]

You are disgusting to me so what's next?

[Asker]

I can guarantee that you don't have a girlfriend

[ClassicDropout]

You're damn right

[Asker]

I already know. Sounds like you have hatred towards women.

[ClassicDropout]

I do. y'all hate us so I hate back in kind.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, but they're idiots, ignore them