1 yBeggers are not choosers.
If you hate sluts that have Chad's and Tyrone's kids in tow, you're obviously not a beggar and have way better options in line if you wait for it. You have to deal with women online with kids trying to shame you as an INCEL though. That's always fun.
It's like being called a loser by losers that fucked up already and they're trying to shame you into being losers like them. Or you can cave into the shame and get with her or someone like her... and then you automatically become just as much of a loser as her... while you raise another man's kid with your time, effort, and money... as well as put up with more of her bullshit.

No... the real winners dropped a kid off in your pussy and left you like the trash you are. Now you're out there begging INCELS to stop playing video games and come deal with my kids simply because you couldn't convince me to stick around after you let me smash and treat you like trash.
I was once him. I banged a cumdumpster or two though and now you're realizing I won't put up with your shit, so you're looking at the new INCELS as potential victims to use to raise my kids with you. Congratulations on where you are in life.
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Asker1 yThe "Incels" that you describe, single mothers don't want them either.
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Then why are they getting shamed for not going for the single mothers? I would think even a lonely loser guy would know a single mother is a hot mess.
Ignore the INCELS though and let's just pick any average guy that hasn't fucked his life up and is doing alright on his own... is a single mother going to be a great answer for him? Fuck no it isn't.
Single mother is going to be a major drag. It's going to deny him of all the fun he could've had. He's got a fucking kid that isn't even his to think about now. He can't go clubbing with her... because she's got a kid you got to find a babysitter for.
I'd fuck the babysitter.
Asker1 yIf they don't live together the guy doesn't have to provide for the kid. Also if planning things together the child's father can watch the kid.
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Ah... now you're thinking like me. Use her for what she's good for.
I was thinking in terms of devotion and stuff like that. Yeah, if she's got her own place and can get "Daddy" to take the kid of her hands so she can be my slut for the night... I don't have a problem with that.
But let's be real... a guy that wants his own family and his own happy relationship... why should he go for her? That guy... is behind a long list of guys that used her for sex just like would have. Then if he commits to her... she'll probably just cheat as soon as she finds the opportunity. That's what single mothers do. - 1 y
@Avicenna I know right... he's just down to babysit so she can work on getting in the baby making way with other men. And this is supposed to flip my opinion into thinking this is the best thing ever?
How about I just don't, and go find a woman of my own while she begs her ex to babysit so she can go bang other guys?
It's going to be one hell of a thirsty guy that thinks this is a great situation. Meanwhile, some guy that's kept his life together thus far is going to be called a INCEL for not wanting to hang out while she begs the ex to watch the kid just so he can smash that blown out pussy all night. What if the ex has his own plans... she think about that. She's probably just one of the roasties he's smashed'n'dashed on. He's probably a busy man and might not have the time to baby sit his kid while she gets turned out by most guys.
The Devil is in the details too... she thinks that's what's going to be so important to the next guy... being able to secure a babysitter so he can Netflix and chill with her. That's what she has to offer. Look at that guys. That's the fucking selling point I guess. Look. At... that. Wow.
Fucking amazing. I am shocked.
I will admit that some horny dudes will go for that, but let's be real about what those guys are up to... just saying. - 1 y
Supeeeeeeeeeeerb opinion.
- 9 mo
lolz Best post I've read in weeks!
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1 yWell some are yes especially if they judge without understanding. Like I’ve said every single moms situation is different.
But just because a man isn’t attracted doesn’t always mean judging as a person some people just aren’t meant to be
If these dudes are such losers why focus on them….. they don’t matter.
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1 yThere are a variety of reasons for it.
The primary one cited is that guys don't want to raise another man's child, even though it's for a relatively brief period of time in the grand scheme of things. Another is that they don't want to become attached to the kids if the relationship doesn't work out. Some other reasons are the moral character of the mother, the financial risks, the judgement a man might receive for dating a single mom from friends and family.
I'm a widowed single mother. Part of me doesn't even want to try because I'm afraid, and that's the truth. But I know I'd like to have a relationship again. There's something about the feeling of care and protection when with a man that is very grounding for me. But I want to make sure I am in a good place first. I want it to be a forever relationship, or at least until death strikes again.
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It’s true that some people may not want to date single parents, and everyone has their own reasons for that. Many men in the 18-24 age range focus on themselves and are not prepared to handle the responsibilities that come with dating someone who has children. But it’s also important to note that there are small groups online that actively bash single moms, and while their views can be loud, they don’t represent every man.
On the flip side, there are plenty of people who are open to dating single parents, and sometimes it can even be easier to date someone who is also a parent, as they understand the challenges and priorities that come with raising children. Ultimately, it’s about finding the right person who values and respects your situation.
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16.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Of course- all men who don’t want to settle for women who have other men’s kids in tow just can’t get women at all.
has it occurred to you that psychological manipulation is counterproductive when it comes to single moms?
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Men dont want 2 raise anothers offspring just as the woman doesn't want to provide for the man.
Asker1 yIf men don't want to raise another's offspring, why do they do it?
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Your answer honestly inspired my answer. Good job on pointing that out.
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Oh yeah forgive me for not tying up all loose ends, sure some 'men' would because they can't do better than someones leftovers
Asker1 yOkay if he isn't doing anything for the kids why don't men like to date single mothers?
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God forbid a man has standards, boundaries, and expectations. Women are just selfish and demand everyone to succumb to their will
Asker1 yDoes this apply to older single mothers or younger ones?
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Both; however, I’d imagine that men are more willing to date a younger single mom than an older one, especially if she’s interested in having another kid. That’s another big downside with a single mom- she’s already got her kid (s) and is less likely to be able to help support more even if she wants more.
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1 yFrom my perception, a 'single Mom' here in Asia, and one in -say- Americanesia are not necessarily of the same kind.
Your question indicates some prejudices also from your own side - are ''all'' people really thinking the same? And do they ''all'' have the same motivations and backgrounds?
As for your thesis - frustration is not the only reason to be for or against a specific situation. But basically I'd agree that all ( ... :P ) people who hate (socially, politically, or individually) have a limited intellectual horizon that does not allow them to see the bigger picture.
00 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. It depends on the single mother and how she became single in the first place. If she is on her sixth child and they each have their own father, I can totally understand the avoidance because that that point, it is the incel in question's turn.
If she is a widow or she is able to prove that the father of her children is a menace to society and that she didn't abandon the relationship because she was bored or wanted to "find herself." Then yes, the incel in question likely fumbled big time.
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1 yI'm trying to understand. Men that don't want a used product that comes with a insta-family are just incels?
Brilliant logic.

This is why I feel dead inside.
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Asker1 ySo if a woman has one kid she is used up and undeserving of love?
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Why did she have that kid? Also, why is he a incel just for not having a woman with a kid as his first choice?
I don't think you're seeing this outside your own shoes. I highly doubt you'd get on here and call women femcels for not willing to give single Dad's a try. Why is he a incel just because he'd rather pass on you? Let him go make his own kids. Maybe you should talk to the kid's father and work things out instead of trying to shame him into wanting you. - 1 y
Put it like this... so if a man isn't sexually turned on by a woman breast feeding another man's kid, he's instantly an incel and underserving of love?
Do you not see how your logic is a one way street?
692 opinions shared on Dating topic. Just because they won't be in a relationship doesn't mean they hate you. It isn't my preference, and I have other choices when I'm dating that I do prefer more. In your age range there are more women who don't have kids than there are women that do.
In my age range it's the opposite, and more women have kids than women that don't, and the women that don't have kids probably never will. If I were going for a woman your age though, there's no way I'd settle for a single mom.
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Asker1 yHow much of the single mother talk is just internet talk vs in real life discussions?
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I don't really use social media much, so there isn't any need for me to filter myself. Nor do I feel a link to red-pill, incel, or any group like that. I've fooled around with single moms before, and found the biggest difference to be how much attention and time I can get because so much of her attention needs to go to her kids. Rightly so, but they're not my kids.
Generally those relationships never progressed past friends with benefits, and I only ever met the kid in one of those. Flipping I wouldn't even tell other women I'm trying to date that I have kids unless it's going past 2 or 3 dates. Women have the same reservations about dating guys with kids, they just don't get judged for having them.
No. They are just guys who don't want the baggage of a woman with a child. Single fathers especially the ones who actually have their kids permanently or more than most have similar problems dating as the person they are dating isn't their n01 priority.
00 ReplyI don't want to pay for a kid that's not mine. I also don't want to be playing second fiddle to a kid that's not mine. Mothers should put their children first, but I don't want to be in that position so I won't date single mothers. I've had a few women... So I presume I'm not an incel.
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Asker1 yYou lose out on a lot of potential partners. A lot of women in that age group are single mothers
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That's certainly true. About half of the women I'm interested in are single mothers so I write them off. About 25% I don't find physically attractive so I write them off. The other quarter are younger and aren't quite interested in family right now. Hence my dilemma. I've got a few years left before I have to settle with one of the unattractive 25%
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1 yI guess it depends on what you mean when you say "hate." Because most guys that I know agree that it's better to date someone who doesn't have children from another relationship.
The guys who actively despise and criticize women who become single moms tend to be the incel types.
00 Reply 6K opinions shared on Dating topic. I Just don’t want to get involved with them because there are to many potential issues or drama that could arise from it.
and I don’t have any desire to raise or take responsibility for someone else’s kid.
i don’t hate them or anything.
00 Reply18.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. That is accurate 95% of the time. They are the same ones that put down anyone who has had a successful sex life.
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1 yIt's not about hating single moms, it's about not wanting to get involved with a woman who is a likely poor decision maker and has a kid that isn't yours and most guys, unlike women, don't have much paternal feeling for any kid not theirs. Don't want a woman with emotional baggage like that.
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Asker1 yHow much of the single mother talk is just internet talk vs in real life discussions?
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Trust me it's real. Recently had a similar talk with my single mom sister who is looking for a man. Just something women need explained from a male perspective.
3.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. That and assholes who like slut shaming anyone not a virgin
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1 yMany men have no interest in being the ATM that pays to raise some deadbeats kids. Also, women who let lots of guys make babies and leave are dirty and have no self respect.
10 Reply308 opinions shared on Dating topic. No, I don't want to take the responsibility of kids. I am a single guy and I want to enjoy my sex life before having kids. I don't hate kids but I need more time to father kids. First, I want to be a good husband then a good father. All these years I have dreamed of marrying a good mature woman and having lots of sex with my wife. I want to live that dream.
I think a man with kids is a perfect fit for a woman with kids. They have the higher chances of understanding each other well.
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1 yMost yes, but not all.
It’s just same like people who date girls online overseas. Mostly they are men who can't even attract girls around them.20 Reply - 927 opinions shared on Dating topic.
m 1 yHating someone for being a single mom does tell something strong about one's psychology. What it means exactly, why and how is mostly the job of therapists lol
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Anonymous(30-35)1 yAbsolutely, all men who don't want to raise another man's child, don't want to date a woman who has made poor decisions and don't want to date a woman whose primary focus is on her child must be in incels.
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Asker1 yHow much of the single mother talk is just internet talk vs in real life discussions?
Opinion Owner1 yMost of it.
Asker1 yMost of it is internet talk?
Opinion Owner1 yNope, as a guy who lives in the real world, I can tell you the same attitudes exist among real men.
Asker1 yThen why do a lot of men date single mothers?
Opinion Owner1 yThere will always be exceptions, but a lot fewer quality men are willing to date single mothers than other women.
13.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Mostly. One can choose not to date single mothers without hating them.
10 Reply2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Most of them yes. They can't get anyone so they spend their time shaming women like single moms. It's pretty disgusting tbh
00 Reply312 opinions shared on Dating topic. I don’t get why would anyone hate single moms. I’ve dated a couple and they’re great.
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Asker1 yA lot of times the baby daddy is in the picture. They're just not in a relationship anymore
1 yNo... lol we are men who judge women for their poor choices and open their legs for any man. That's all... we aren't going to be taking care of another man's kids.
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Asker1 yHow much of the single mother talk is just internet talk vs in real life discussions?
6.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. They are a part of it. Most of the hate comes from the single moms who are trying to act like a prize when its just simp losers who will take what they can get.
00 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Who hates single moms? Just not interested in them is all.
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1 yNot all of them. You have your fuckbois and simps mixed in too.
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Asker1 yA guy is a simp if he dates single mothers?
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Your question was about guys hating moms. I said not all of them
Anonymous(25-29)1 yIts so weird to HATE single moms. You dont have to date them why do they HATE them? Lmao. Thats psychotic.
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1 yUsually they are the sons of sine moms/no bio dad
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Anonymous(25-29)1 ynot wanting to date single moms =/= hating single moms
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Asker1 yWhy don't guys want to date single mothers?
Opinion Owner1 ybecause single moms are not their preference
I imagine, not being a single mother in the first place would do wonders.
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1 yTypically yes. A man that rages against women especially women they don't even no are super weird to me.
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Anonymous(36-45)1 yAre single moms just jealous because they made poor choices and now use pathetic shaming tactics like "incel" 😂
00 Reply794 opinions shared on Dating topic. Just because someone doesn't want to date you doesn't mean that they hate you.
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1 yMaybe, but they're probably no-life and/or religious fanatic busybodies.
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1 yyeah but i tend to just hate most women but it just comes from my lived experience
00 Reply2.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO RAISE WHAT SOME OTHER DUDE NUTTED IN YOU?
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Asker1 yIf it was as bad as you making it out to be, why do men date single mothers?
Asker1 yThat doesn't mean you have to date them
Asker1 yI guess. Just because you date a single mother doesn't mean you have to raise the kid
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1 yWhat about women who won't date single dads
00 Reply It's easy to see why you are a single mom.
00 Reply483 opinions shared on Dating topic. usually many don't hate them
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Asker1 yThey do. On social media you constantly see guys bashing single mothers
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1 yThat does not logically follow.
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Anonymous(25-29)1 yHate or just don't want to date?
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Opinion Owner1 yBut nah most aren't incels because they date other women who aren't single moms.
1 yNah surely not 🚭🚫
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1 yNo, that's not true.
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Asker1 ySo what is it?
Anonymous(18-24)1 yMost are
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1 yyeah pretty much
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