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+1 yGag guys dont represent the majority of men. This year gag become a home for more and more incels to the point more and more women leave this site and to the point many takes and questions has replies that trashtalk women or there are more and more questions and takes that tend to be sexist. Therefore, this site kinda mess up with my mental health. Imagine seeing bunch of people trashtalking your gender. I can't stand this anymore. I deactivated my account many times because of this. [By the way an incel ain't a virgin for me. Incels are misogynistic people. ]
Not only single mums, but also women over their 30s are seen as leftovers by many gag guys.
I have seen a traditional submissive girl in her 30s who even get told that she is leftovers due to her age. What do you want? Should majority of women kill themself since majority of them ain't in their 20s, virgin or childless?
Now some of the guys in the commentsection say that they dont hate them but i have seen them saying in their other posts that they would use single mums as sextoys. How would you feel when women women use you for your money? Then dont complain about golddiggers when you are not better than them. It is perfectly ok if you dont prefere single mums but why do you hate them so much?
I also see many or some single gag males in their late 30s,40s,50s and even single dads but they have the audacity to shame women for being single mums or being over their 30s.
I also notice that these same guys are kinda obsessed with young girls which is disgusting and creepy and grooming behaviour. I saw a guy in his 30s who indirectly admit that he dates highschool girls although her parents were not ok with it. I reported him and even mods agreed with me but they could not do anything.
These guys probably want very young women because women their age dont fall for their shit but young women tend to be naive etc. but they also leave them when they get older aka grow up. This is one of the reasons why the divorce rate is higher the bigger the age gap
I also dont generalize men. I am just summarizing the opinions of many gag guys and add my opinion. I just explain how i see more and more radicalized guys on gag and youtube. I did not even see any feminazi that hate men on the same level the mgtow/redpill guys hate women. It is kinda scary to me. Fortunately, men in real life are very nice and cool. Dont get me wrong. I also like some guys on gag who are very nice but just the redpill/mgtow incels scares me lol. I get death threats, stalked and harrassed despite blocking them since they create new accounts Now my replies get systematically disliked because even posts about my favourite food, celebrity get dislikes for no reason and i even simp men in some of my posts to see if i get still dislike and i get it. My very old posts get new dislikes too. So these people search my nickname and stalk me to give me a dislike 😆🙃.
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Desiring young virgin women has been the norm throughout all of history, it's your ideas that going against nature and you have the arrogance to call people who don't agree with your dumb ideas names.
Feminism is a disease started by white people relatively recently, and hopefully will die out with them as patriarchal, non white cultures are the only ones left having kids.
And oh boy will it be fun when cultures such as Islam start becoming the majority of a population, and start voting their beliefs in. I have my pop corn ready to go. - +1 y
By your retarded logic so is preference for good looking men the norm due to nature, biology, evolution is the norm since females want the best genes for their offspring. It is not healthy for retarted old bastard to marry a girl in her early 20s or when she is a 18 since her brain development ain't finished which affect a her personality, maturity level etc. A gurl in her 30s can be virgin too but since you are too stupid to understand and twist my word ad try so hard to misunder and ignore my points, your prove my points.
The number of former muslims is also increasing and too many muslims are too liberal. - +1 y
I put the statistics. The divorce rate is high for people with big age gap high for a reason. Whatever why i am even replying to you even though you are disrespecting my twisting my words, ignoring many points of mine and make it about something i did not talk about.
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... and try so hard to misunderstand me ** i also say nothing against men. I am sorry if i offended anyone but i really have no bad intentions. I also dont support the third wave feminism and according to statistics women marry older men not old men. So average age gap is 1-5 years for couples
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According to studies and statistics the marriage is also shorter, the bigger the age gap is. The sperm quality is also decreasing the older the men get which means their kids are more likely to have genetic abnormalities.
"Evolutionary Psychology studies suggest that women prefer slightly older or similarly aged partners... Several recent studies have shown changes in male reproductive parameters as a result of increased age. In the current review of medical literature, we found evidence that much older men are more likely to be infertile, women with much older partners are more likely to experience problems during pregnancy, and children of much older men are more likely to have genetic abnormalities. Based on these findings, we suggest that reproducing with much older men does not represent the best reproductive option for women, which would explain the female preference for only slightly older or similarly-aged mates. sexual selection;mate choice reproductive behavior; ..."So it is a huge myth that men can get a young women at every age. Women who usually marry such old men are not attracted to their old looks/personality, they are attracted to the money and these women tend to cheat on these old men with younger men Yes men are attracted to women in their early 20s, but women in their early 20s are not attracted to majority of men since young men aka men their age are minority. Yes, there are young women who marry old men but these are exceptions. So what majority of women really wants is (fertile), (young), strong, attractive and nice men who are same age or slightly older than them. - +1 y
I also never deny that men like young women
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If you're having ten kids at a time it's plausible some will become atheists or change their religion. I'm seeing more Burqas not less.
I'm not a woman, so it's not for me to comment on who they are attracted to, I just know who me and the majority of men are, and no level of convincing will change any of that, but I'm sure all those single, chiless old women will justify being a lone as their choice.
I said YOUNG and virgin, if given the choice between the two it would be young, and my experience with older "virgins" that weren't hideous is that they were bisexual or took it up the ass while young, so I wouldn't trust it unless it went along with some other proof too.
Divorce rates mean absolutely nothing in the west because of how much of a shit show marriage here has become. Show me the age gap and divorce statistics for Iran. - +1 y
@Lazi-boi i am a former muslim and too many former muslims hide the fact that they ain't believe in islam. Look at iran, turkey etc. I also dont agree with radical liberals for being against marriage and family. I personally think marriage can be feminist. I know good feminists who are married so 10+ years in turkey. They dont expect from their husbands to be a feminist too since they think feminism is activism and nobody has to be a activist. They are very cute couple who respect eachother. I have seen muslim traditional turkish women who gossip a lot about husband while these feminists did not do that to the point nobody gossib with them anymore lol. In our culture men are also very pressured to buy a lot of golds or expensive stuff for their bride and these feminists did not want a gram gold from their husbands and did not even wabt from their husbands to buy them anything. But i can understand why you dislike feminists
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Divorce rate would be high in middleeastern countries too if divorce would not be taboo. I know too many old could couplese who hate eact other but can't divorce due to pressure and taboo. I personally think younger generation marry wiser since they decide carefully and ain't pressured to marry in western countries. I also dont deny that marriage laws are sexist towards men..
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I already buy gold for myself, only it's sitting in a draw picking up dust (and inflationary value)
I'd rather see it adorned on a girl, as long as she's not going to run away to some idiot with it.
I have no issue of working myself to the grave to provide for my family, if I had a guarantee, or at least a high than average chance that she wouldn't leave Mez take my kids and half my stuff, or make my life so intolerable by holding that threat over me, because the divorce statistics don't count guys who are walking on egg shells so that their while life does not get destroyed.
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Ok i dont deny that men may be attracted to YOUNG women but do they really want a serious relationship with them. Her personality ain't stable due to brain development which affect her maturity level etc. It is kinda just primitive and just pure instincs. I can understand the attraction since young women look better but i would not understand when you seriously think a relationship with them will work. The divorce rate is high for couples who marry young or have huge big age gap. I think men care more about personality
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I have seen many feminist muslims or lbgt supporter which does not make sense to me. I have seen some hidden former muslims among my relatives but they did not tell me directly but it is so obvious since the question quuran and say that quran gas surahs that they dont agree
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To be honest i dont want talk about this since i am scared
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They probably sugar coat it untill there's a large enough population, then all the other religions will pay the Jizya and everyone else will get a trip off the roof.
Even the silent minority won't stand in the way of the so called extremists, who are actually following the book.
I personally can't wait, barely drink any alcohol as it is and don't mind doing some yoga five times a day and fasting every once in a while.
Secular patriarchy would work as well, as in normalised socialism and not the inbetween nonsense the west is in. - +1 y
Secular patriarchy? What kind of bs is this. You know patriarchy hurt men. Patriarchy create these so called marriage laws where men get divorced raped. Then dont complain about it. Then male rape victims dont get serious. Men who get abused dont also get serious. I am from turkey which is secual but culturally very conservative and any man who get abused, cheated on, raped is seen as pussy there. So patriarchy is not good for anyone.
AND movements like feminism, lbgt, blm, minority rigts are used as tools to get votes. I have seen a turkish feminist organisation - who dont support third wave feminism - get cancelled, attacked and almost shut down. I also see lbgt organisation that dont agree with the current lbgt in the media and this organisation get sabotaged and so on. These so called feminists, lbgt people etc. in the media and politics dont give a f about women, or gay people. They just hide themself behind these labels to be seen as good.
Hollywood itself was very conservative two decades. Do you really it is a coincidence how they change themself so much?
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People in power misuse any liberal movement like feminism, lbgt, blm, etc. and minority like muslim :) to get votes even it does not make sense. However, this hurt the people who are affected and i also see so many naive young western girls think islam is a great religion:). I mean i dont think that they have bad intentions but they are too naive. The popular feminist alice schwarzer even feel betrayed by the liberal media and dont support islam and is against the uncontrolled immigration aka refuge crisis. The german media dont give her much publilcity. So real sane feminists get shut down.
By the way thanks to internet more and more people become former muslims especially in turkey. Look at popular atheist channels (Efe Aydal). The number of non atheist increase 3 times in turkey. - +1 y
Sorry for spamming you.
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Lol.
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Sometimes i have the feeling russian or china financially support radical liberal organisations such as antifa, and radicalized liberal movements such as blm, rasical feminism etc. to harm america . It is crazy how divided america is.
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That's because those policies were designed to destroy a nation so a more powerful nation or ideology could come in and take it over.
After communism takes over, there's a period of normalisation because now that the "proper" people are in power, the destabilising policies are no longer needed.
That's why full communist countries are all patriarchal.
At the end of the day patriarchy will be the norm. You'll either be submissive to a loving husband at home who would take a bullet for you, or to a faceless uncaring big state which won't hesitate to put a bullet in you if you say something wrong.
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455 opinions shared on Dating topic. Oh it's because boys don't like the idea that you might have had sex with someone else. The kids kind of a giveaway.
Once they grow up, men don't mind.14 Reply- +1 y
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Indeed, which is why I'm laughing at you.
3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. I date single Moms only cuz I am a single Dad , But to answer your question , Most single guys don’t want a girl that has kids from another guy , Mainly cuz they don’t want to take on the responsibility of having to take care of a child that isn’t theirs , Most guys are very territorial when it comes to falling for a girl , They want her all to themselves , It’s a turn off to most guys if she already has kids, mainly because most people don’t like thinking about their partner having sex with someone else , so by her already having kids he will hate the fact that it wasn’t his kids, it’s some other guy that made them with her , Kids are walking proof that she was pounded by another guy sorry to sound so blunt but it’s truth , I will be honest when I was younger and single with no kids , I didn’t want a girl that already had kids , I was totally against it , it was a turn off to me because I wanted a girl to only have my children not someone else’s , Girl’s that I would date some of them lied to me or kept it a secret that they already had a child and to me that was a turn off the fact they lied about not having a child but As I got older and had my own kids I realized it was stupid of me to be that way and I understood why those girls I dated kept it a secret cuz again they were looking for love but guys would turn them down cuz they had kids , Girls have turned me down when they found out I already had kids , so it’s one of those things that just happens , I realized I am going to dislike someone just cuz they had children already , Having my own kids made me realize how much I love kids , But the funny thing is now that my kids are older , I am looking for a girl that doesn’t want more kids , I am at a point in my life that I can’t see myself starting over raising kids , so I am ok if she already has kids and doesn’t want more , So again I think it all just comes down to where someone is in their lives. kids are a lot of responsibility and most people aren’t capable of taking on that responsibility , Why I really didn’t date much after my divorce I mainly focused on my kids and didn’t want to put that responsibility on to someone else , Now that my kids are older and pretty much taking care of themselves makes me more open to dating cuz I know my kids are at an age now that they can take care Of themselves pretty much and I am not looking for a girl to take care of them
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+1 yI don't hate single parents by any means. When it comes to single mothers, there are a lot of reasons why men view them in a negative light.
My reasons for not being interested in single mothers would be below. Again, don't hate them, but definitely not something I would have the desire or energy to go through with.
1.) The kid will always come first over you, rightfully so. A kid requires a lot of time, especially when the mom is not working to make money. Her spare time will mostly be dedicated to the child. Any dates will be dependent on baby sitters and her schedule from her commitment to work as well. This isn't counting any emergency the kid may have like sickness, school, etc.
2.) The baby daddy. Most of the time the baby daddy is in the picture one way or another be it with split custody or alimony. If she still has any interaction with the man who is the father of her child to a heavy degree, there is a good likelihood she would go back to him on a physically intimate point and I believe a part of that is do to pair bonding and biology. I would rather not deal with being in competition with or face a possibly hostile dude.
3.) The kid. I don't like the idea of helping raise a kid that isn't biologically mine. The possibility of getting attached to him/her and vice versa or him/her resenting me just sounds like an annoying hassle to deal with. The other bit to go with that is I have no say on how the kid is raised if there is something I don't like. Plus I feel rotating doors of men in a single mom's life takes a toll on the kid emotionally and psychologically.
4.) I would rather date a woman who is free from those commitments by being single and not having the responsibility of having a kid.
5.) This one is a personal opinion and very judgmental, but in my eyes, unless she married and widowed young, if she is single and taking care of a kid at a young age I feel it is a sign of poor judgment and decision making. Divorce, impulsive decision on having sex with the wrong man, etc.
6.) Financially I am really only able to support myself. Taking on a woman and her kid as well would be a bad move on my end.10 Reply
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+1 yHate? Not hate just unacceptable to date… and I’ll tell you why.
1. All women bring trouble of some kind so if your going to date find the best you can get to make it worth it.
2. You will never come first. First to her is always someone else’s child then hopefully your children, then usually her because that’s a mans place putting women first, then you… who wants to always come in 4th. If it’s just 2 the last still means second… if you have a kid well it’s your kid after all so be a man and put the kid first anyway… but to put someone else’s kid first? You went from 2nd maybe 3rd to 4th.
3. You have to support that child but generally you hear I don’t need a daddy for my lid. You cannot punish my child… etc. Your always the stepfather never the dad. And I’ve done the stepparent thing. Their never quiet… yours. As bad as that is to say.
4. She’s a single mother. Nothing could be more irresponsible in my opinion. I would never date someone that made such bad choices. Sure there's rape and specific situations and widows but that’s barely a % of all single child births. Ima just assume your a whore and don’t know how to wear a condom. But I’ll respect a single mom still more than some whore that performs abortions to fix her mistakes. Their irredeemable.11 Reply - 6.3K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yNobody 'hates' them, they just have no business dating in the first place. Whatever time they have left after working and running a household by themselves, they owe to their children. That's the least she can do for them, having fucked up their family life with a broken home in the first place. They NEED this time, they NEED their parent, whatever is left. When the kids are grown and gone then MAYBE she can dip her toe in the dating pool once again.
Secondly, everybody knows that a new love interest in this situation is never their priority. EVER. Those kids, her mother, her job, her friends, ALL come before the new guy. He just has no real value to her - maybe some sex, or if he's really a plow-horse, maybe she can convince him to help her out with this huge project of raising her children and running the household.
And finally, everybody also knows that the new guy will NEVER have final say in ANYTHING. EVER. Zero authority. He's always a second-class parent, he's always a 'step'. Even the kids know this.
No, a guy would have to be a moron to want to raise someone else's crotch-fruit. If he wants a family he should start his own, not try to marry into someone else's. It just never quit works like you had hoped or wanted it to.34 Reply- +1 y
Yes but 50+ years ago things were different because that woman would want to behave 100% like the women who married before they had a kid. The dad would get full authority & mom would never whisper to anybody that she ever was a single mom. He'd still be a simp but a less crazy one than we have today.
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@hahahmm - Likely yes. But the more things change the more they stay the same.
The truth is, single people think they have some kind of right, some kind of entitlement, to date again. To have a new lover in their life. Well they can surely try, but they've got a LOT of baggage that most good prospects are not willing to entertain. Women expect their man to be their plow-horse. They expect them to pull the same load that they created for themselves. This is what THEY chose!
And the fact that the majority of them blew out the bio-dad is a huge red flag for the next guy. There's no guarantee she learned ANYTHING from the first one, so don't expect her to treat this new one any better. There's good reason the first marriage didn't survive, if they even married at all. It's highly likely to repeat itself. Some of them don't even get that far - they'll just fuck any ol' guy if he talks to her right. - +1 y
You're 100% correct Woman expect the new guy to be the provider but have no say or make the decisions. If a bitch is a single mother is for her dumb desicions. One of my buddy's made the bed choice to married a single mother what happened the bitch left him on the streets and she hop on to the next dude that made more money. Single mothers want to remarried to get financial Support and for a provider from what I've seen.
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@Longbeachguy2010 - yes, and some dick once in awhile when they feel like it.
What women don't really get is that having a man isn't really like having a kid, or a pet. Well, maybe like keeping a lion, or a tiger. LOL
I don't hate single moms. I MAY dislike the fact that many of them have terrible attitudes and think having children and being slutty in their early 20s somehow makes them "braver or stronger" than intelligent women who use protection, don't get knocked up, and are smart with their choices of men (as in, not sleeping with Chads and assholes who aren't daddy material). You don't deserve a medal for being a single mother; screw that BS. Now, you deserve SOMETHING for being a GOOD mother, but single moms, statistically (unless they're widowed or something) are far less likely to be good mothers being as they can't even get their own lives correct, most of the time.
The reason no one wants to date a single parent is because it's a lot more work and investment, for a lot less payoff (you have to impress both the mother and her kids, and she will always put you dead-last in her list of priorities, not that you can blame her for that). I use the metaphor, it's like buying a used car at 50% more the price of a new one. Unless it was owned by a celebrity or is a one-of-a-kind car, you'd have to be foolish or amazing to take such a bad deal.00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI don’t hate them. Some of the time it happened through no fault of their own. They met a guy who seemed to be good and he turned out to be a piece of shit.
What I do hate is the way many women think about it and their attitudes towards it.
When it comes to this the main priority should be the children. Children do better with two parents in a healthy, loving relationship. That’s a statistical fact. But many women see it as no big deal.
In response to the above many women will say “yeah but shit happens”. Sometimes it does, but sometimes it also happens because you didn’t think about the consequences of your actions.
If you think that becoming a single mother isn’t a big deal you’re probably not going to vet a guy to see if he’s going to he a good father to your children. You’re probably not going to be as careful about who you have unprotected sex with. You’re probably going to choose based entirely on feelings without any logic.
So a woman like that meets a guy who is good looking, funny, makes her feel good. He knocks her up, and he’s not ready for a kid. Or maybe he sticks around, but he’s just no good in the relationship now that the kid is here. It all goes tits up and now she’s a single mother. Might not have happened had she thought about it a little bit more.
Some women also attempt to shame men into doing things to suit them, no matter what, and these women are delusional. It’s the same as nice guys calling women who don’t want them sluts.
Some of the answers here for example say that those women deserve better than the guys who don’t want single mothers because those men aren’t responsible men. So responsible, high value men are those who want to take on another man’s kids. Those are the “real men”. It’s bullshit.
Some will call those guys incels. I’m married with kids, obviously not an incel. I wouldn’t be with a single mother when I was single.10 Reply
+1 yI absolutely don’t “hate” single moms. I respect most of them for taking responsibility of raising their kids.
But what I don’t like is how some women fall for worthless assholes, have kids with them and then all of the sudden the “nice guy” is a best option. I have no interest in being your fucking safety net. I was the guy you friendzoned years ago while you happily spread your legs for abusive/irresponsible assholes.
Now again not all single mother’s are what i described above. I dated a widow a few years ago. Her husband died in a car accident. That was different. But again I have no interest in being a “savior”.60 Reply896 opinions shared on Dating topic. I don't understand why a Real Man wouldn't be prepared to date a single mum. I've got two girls I love (as friends) who are single mums who if I wasn't married I'd definitely consider asking out. It's tricky when you get involved with a single parent because you have to take the child into consideration - you're not just taking on one heart, you're impacting two (or more). An emotionally immature guy is more likely to be self-involved in a relationship and not see the benefits of getting involved with a single mum.
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+1 ySingle moms do not bother me. Frankly short of importing a childless women from some other location, single moms are the only option in my area. That being said, not all single moms are created alike. Some are completely irresponsible serial poor decision makers around here whilst others lead very productive and happy lives. Unfortunately the irresponsible serial poor decision making variety are in great supply in my area. Granted, even prior to motherhood they where irresponsible. I mean pretty much every women in my area has the same cheap bottle of vodka in their purse that they drink warm and chase down with some equally cheap warm drink.
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+1 yThere are a lot of morons on here who voice the opinion that "all single moms are ho's who either drove their men away or just tried to trap them". While that might be true if the woman is trash, none of the single moms I know personally come close to that description. All the ones I know either got dumped by their guys because the men decided they didn't want to be "daddy or hubby" and take responsibility for their actions, or it was a mutually agreeable divorce. They all work hard to make ends meet, and I have a lot of respect for them.
If a guy just flat out calls single mom's whores, or says he hates them, consider the source. He's probably had a bad experience, or knows anecdotes of bad experiences, or is a loser himself. No one should bash a single mom without knowing ALL the facts.20 Reply 988 opinions shared on Dating topic. Because guys are generally reluctant to having kids of their own much less raise someone elses.
Most single moms make it sound like it shouldn't be a big deal for a man to take her and her children on but the fact is it's a huge deal especially if the guy has never had kids before since usually guys get mentally prepared for these things during pregnancy and have 9 months to accept their new reality. But telling a guy you just went a date with that you have children and and he will have to take on that responsibility is not gonna fly well 9/10 times.
The best bet for a single mom is to find a single dad. Because a single dad is already in that headspace and mentally ready for kids and if they like eachother they can have a mutually beneficial arrangement about the kids00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Simple


There will be always some that will hate you, love you or neutral about it and it is their right to do that.
If someone hates you, so be it. Accept it and find someone you like you for what you are.
Everyone makes mistake, but the key is to accept the mistakes, but accepting the mistake if ever, does not means reset button. It means agrees with whatever consequences that will come with it whether you like it or not.00 ReplyGiven the fact that I could be force to pay child support for a child that isn't mine is the main reason that I will not. I do not hate them for it. Because its a example of the pendulum swing too far the other way in the legal system. Single mothers for a very long time had next to no recourse against men that simply left them with the child and kept a low profile. Even collecting child support from the men that owed it is still like pulling teeth. Now the pendulum has swung the other way. So men that choose to date single women had the tables turned against them in the legal system. So its not that I hate dating single women. Its very much a choice I made to protect myself.
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+1 ySingle-motherhood is a display of bad decision making either in her choices in men or her choices in life. It displays that you either have a history of thinking you're better than the men that you're dating or that the men you're dating don't want to stay with you and it could also mean that you've too self involved and think that the world owes you everything simply because you're 'special' in your mind. No man will even measure up to a woman like that; and no man, no matter what he says, wants to raise another man's kid.
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Took the words outta my mouth.
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Correct Bro this is why I only go for 20 year old woman. Woman that old have baby daddy issues.
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@Longbeachguy2010 I try to date women younger than 22 and I'm 31. It makes it difficult because of how deluded the entire fucking gender has become, but when you get it they're yours. I had a chick earlier this year that I wasn't interested in beyond the bedroom that it took me getting with her like 8 times with absolutely no indication that I'd ever go out in public with her for her to get what was going on. 19, which is the youngest I've had, but it was fun for what I wanted. Part of me thinks I should have continued it, but I definitely didn't have anything in common with her.
That said, that's not what I'm looking for and my first fiancee was a single mother which is how I know these things as well as I do. Never again will I enter a relationship with one, that said I'm not opposed to fun with them not that it's what I want. - +1 y
How did that go? Did that woman expect so much from you and to take the whole packeged on raising that kid? Man the whole dating world is a circus man. I dated a woman my own age second date tells me she got a kid and expects the boyfriend to take responsibility. Hell No I ain't instrested in some single momma what if the kid turns out ungrateful.
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@Longbeachguy2010 Actually it wasn't a terrible experience until she fell back into her formerly recovered addiction. Once she fell back into her addiction she went absolutely bonkers, but pills will do that. Getting the experience of being around a kid was a good thing for me, I didn't grow up with siblings so I had virtually no idea what it was like to have to protect someone like they were my family.
I definitely wouldn't do it again because she did have issues and just about every other single mother I've ever met has similar issues even if not manifested in the same ways. There's a very common air of entitlement that they carry with them for doing the one thing that they're biologically developed to do. It just seems like an abnormally low bar and a bar that doesn't even display any level of quality.
I will date single mums but they won't date me 😄 not long term anyway, they just want casual relationship with me. I would like 4 mixed race children with a Caucasian partner, so If she already has 2, then we have a total of 6. That might be too many children for one vagina 🤷🏽♂️. Example of half Indian half British-White people below 😊.



10 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. I Think most guys might be over thinking it and they're being selfish for me I like single moms because they have their shit together. And you can tell exactly how much they do just by the way they treat their kids they know what they have to do in life they know what comes first in life and hopefully that's their kids always no matter what if a single mom can prove that to me did I would rather date her
20 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. I have in the past.
As you get older the chances of dating someone that doesn't have kids becomes less and less.
What you been to look at is how the mother and father get along with each other concerning the kids.
Are they able to put the past behind them, and not use the kids to get back at each other.
Are there always petty arguments about anything and everything.
Those type of things might make you want to move on.
Who would want to subject themselves to that type of behavior.
It will become all consuming and you will find yourself getting drawn into it.
Some disagreements will always come up, that is normal.
Constant fighting over everything is not fun.
You need to factor in the kids into a relationship, they aren't going anywhere.
Don't expect the kids to like or accept you right away, to them you are just someone that is banging their mom or dad.
It can work out just fine, it just takes a bit more work.00 ReplyHate single moms? No there’s no hate, but that’s your choice if you want to believe so, really.
It’s not hate but most of us don’t really see a point in dating a single mom for several reasons and ofcourse , these reasons do stack. I really wouldn’t want a one-sided relationship where the single mom and her kid will benefit only and there wouldn’t be time to bond with the mom to see if you’re both compatible? Besides, they’re single for a reason and I do not want to be just a walking atm in that “relationship”.
In fact, I’d rather spend money on an E-girl than a single mom. Oops….00 Reply
+1 yBecause single mothers are cancer on any society.
They do nothing but cause pain and dysfunction.
They are low IQ women having sex with low IQ men and producing low IQ kids.
Most of the boys they raise end up in prison.
Most of the girls they raise end up as single mothers themselves and perpetuate the cycle.
And they suck the taxpayers dry by collecting welfare or living on unemployment most of the time. We are living in a time where we are literally subsidizing single motherhood.
And that is why many people not just guys have a problem with single mothers.00 Reply- 993 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIt’s not hate, but it is complicated.. it’s more resentment. Within men’s circles it is widely believed that stereotypical single mothers are often women who had their party days and fun in college, ended up pregnant, and now want to settle down with a “provider” that they never would have bothered to even look at before.
Further, regardless of the reason, dating a single mother has significant obstacles. You will always come in last place in her life and most importantly, if you do cohabitate or get married and it doesn’t work out, you are responsible for child support of a child that isn’t yours.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yThere’s a number of reasons. One is she’s probably never free as much as opposed to a girl w out a child. Two there’s potential for baby daddy drama. Three, he’s not ready for an instant family. Four he just doesn’t like the idea of raising someone else is kid. I dated a girl before w a child, it was ok but everyone, which it should to a degree, revolved around the kid. We’d have to cancel plans, child is sick I can’t go, babysitter cancelled, child’s father is coming by to visit I can’t go. Overtime as we were together for a while I tried to discipline the child for throwing food by telling him not to, course she got mad sad not to scold her kids who was 4 at the time so I’m like fuck it you want me to be w you but when it comes to your child we’re separate. Plus for me women are difficult as it is, now throw a child in the mix, all the crying, breaking down, mad at the ex for not helping, etc, etc.
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I’m curious as to why people hate on them though.
Opinion Owner+1 yHate on them how? To my knowledge men really don’t hate on them unless they have a child w a girl n things didn’t go as they wanted it too so they’re pushed of at their ex as well as all single mothers.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWe have men being raised by single moms who were raised by single moms...
We have men who have been used as a meal ticket.
we have men who dated single moms, became attached to the children, then she leaves..
We have women who passed up the good guys when they were young to have fun , then expect the good guys they ignored to pick up the tab..
I've seen it all, I watched my mom walk over the good guys to chase assholes and finally settled for the good guy once she turned 40 and wanted stability. Hardly a fair deal for him was it?10 ReplyIt has nothing to do with hate. You're using the word hate as a way to make single mothers into victims. The truth is many guys don't want to put that kind of weight on their shoulders. There's nothing wrong with that and we have the total right to feel that way. The same way a lot of women don't date single fathers, won't date short men, won't date poor men, won't date black men , won't date men without a car, won't date men in many different situations.
We have the right to say we don't want to be burdened with the responsibility of raising another man's child. Period.00 Reply2K opinions shared on Dating topic. No one hate single moms. It's just complicated to date them.
First, you're never a priority to them. Whatever happens, you'll get to see her whenever she has the time, which is often never.
And the rest of the reasons are linked to it. If everything goes well with the mom, but the kid doesn't like you, you're out.
And on the contrary, you can get along with the kid and get attached to him, but if it doesn't work with the mom, you'll never see the kid again.
Also, you have to take care of a child who isn't your own, and you have no say on his education, and no authority on him. The mom of course, but also the real dad are before you, even tho you're more present. You give the same amount of effort, but the result is even less guaranteed than in a regular relationship.
In the end, you're just an option in the relationship. It's not the mom and you, it's the mom, the dad, the kids, and maybe you.00 ReplyI don't hate them up to the point where some start commenting that I should want to take care of them, and implying that only a "real man" is "strong enough" to look after them.
Basically, I don't like the ones that act like douchebags.00 Reply- 2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI don't hate them, but having a kid is symbolic that you've went that far with another guy. And although mistakes happen, and I don't judge others for their mistakes, I do want to have my own blood as a kid. A mother of a kid is less likely to want more from another guy in my opinion and is focused on raising her own. Not that I would hate the mother's kids or treat them less, but wanting continuing our own bloodline is a guy thing.
00 Reply For the guys who don't like single moms and won't date them I think it's actually good they feel that way because these women deserve better men and responsible men. No woman should have to deal with a man with these kind of mindsets.
The mature men have the decency to understand that they could not give a good life to her and her kids being that they are not ready to be in that stage of a relationship. So honestly I see this as good, let them tread far away.014 Reply- +1 y
You're just stroking the ego of the few desperate and stupid men who probably don't have any other option than to date single mothers.
It's like telling a slave they are so much better at picking cotton than anyone else. It's condescending, and single mothers can go f themselves when they say things like that.
The person who deserves the label "mature" isn't the one who had kids out of wedlock with a drug dealer and it now relying on the government to support them, it's the one who is steering as clear as they can from these stupid people. - +1 y
@Lazi-boi
There is a lot of assumptions here and you went very left field here.
Of course their is immature single mothers who make dedicated mother's look bad, that's not what I implied here.
Also your assuming that I mean men in general when I am actually talking about men who have replied on here bashing women simply for being single mothers.
Not dating a single mother is your choice no one says you should. Though to criticize a mother simply for being a single mother is extremely immature. That's what I am implying here.
Many of the men seem to think they have been with all single mothers or simply place judgment of them based off personal experience that does not dictate all women or majority.
Overall I think you misunderstood me. - +1 y
The majority of single mothers are absolute trash, how would you know since you don't date any.
I'd say angsty incels are around 20% of the comments, and 80% are genuine expressions of what a cesspool single mothers are as partners, as human beings and as a dating experience. You just refuse to accept it. - +1 y
"these women deserve better men and responsible men" - Ok but the better and responsible man is the type of man who won't date a single mother. Learn to do a little logic and look around you. GOOD and RESPONSIBLE men are still with their children's mother by the time the kid is old enough to walk. It's the losers and degenerates that are gone by the time the kid is one year old.
You're mentality is the hands down the most ignorant when it comes to shaming men who dont want the responsibility of raising another man's brats. We don't date single mothers because WE are the ones who deserve to have our first children with good solid women who haven't had kids irresponsibility with men who are trash. - +1 y
@Lazi-boi It's in the modern woman's nature to say "it's good they dont want me anyway, they're not real men" in just about any situation when a man doesn't want them.
Man won't date a fat woman - "ugh, he's a little boy who has a small penis and can't satisfy me anyway"
Man won't date a divorced woman - "oh he's a loser who wants some innocent little girl, probably a pedo"
Man won't date gold digger - "He doesn't know to make a woman happy"
Man won't date a single mom - "He's an immature irresponsible child who doesn't know how to step up and be a man"
That ego is why this generation of women are so miserable as they reach their 30s and middle age and realize it's only weak betas, creeps and sleazebags that are really chasing after them anymore while all the Solid High Quality men are with 24 year old good women who don't have all this baggage. - +1 y
@Lazi-boi
@ronaldo75
What in the world are you talking about.
Look men always seem to think they are good for women and also seem to think they know all women.
The fact that you think I am criticizing you personally tells me your offense to my comment and opinion is due to inner seeded bitterness or resent. This has nothing to do with my view of men this has to do with your phycological form of thinking.
A person in general understands not to place pure judgment on someone with showing their true colors and a man he dictates women as a whole due to lack of experience and personal experience is simply expressing thief logic understanding on opinion not fact.
So results boys, you are acting like people in general do not deserve better when they themselves project their best. This is not a notion to be confused with constantly bashing or criticizing men it's just what is right. Their are good men out their that seek a woman not someone who simply fits into a checklist of the right partner, this is maturity without seeing women as a issue just simply for having a kid. Plenty of men do marry these women.
Also thier is a lot of women that know they can not spare thier time to men and relationships due to being a hard working woman. So they do not attempt having a relationship until their kids are old enough to care for themselves or they leave home.
To call me ignorant shows me you are ignoring the fact that you don't know me. So this tells me you judge before being logical and accurate in your information.
If you are going to attempt a relationship with a woman in general and do not like her as a person please do yourself a favor and walk away from her before she stunts your view of women. - +1 y
@JustAnj Less and less men are willing to fall on the sword like that. I think we've had the last generation, but who knows, I guess you should never underestimate the level of simp.
I'm all for men marrying these women as it takes the burden of raising the children into somewhat functioning adults off society, but on as a personal choice, it's DUMB, these men are DUMB, no question about it, but those who have some brains can take the advice guys like me give.
Believe me, any time I want to marry a single mom with a bunch of kids I can. I can probably steal a few of those married women away from the husbands they are with, and these girls are still under 30!
So at least they are young single mothers, but beyond 28, god, what are you even doing guys. - +1 y
@Lazi-boi
What does age have to do with love and good partnership?
Being able to steal a woman does not prove anything good.
Being a man who chose a woman with kids is nothing more then a man being with someone they appreciate and love and they themselves love children and do not dictate thier partners based off their kids but they dictate themselves based on their influence. This is why I say I would prefer to see women be with men with that kind of maturity and responsibility, some men can not handle being a father figure. This means nothing of men just that they can not be father figures to other children.
Some men even do not mind adoption, if most men felt the way you did we would not have a empathic society. Relationships are not as simple as you assume, you do not want to end up with the wrong person just because of a generalization.
You can choose what you want, to think your influence is positive based on your experience in chosing the wrong person and not leaving knowing they simply are not for you, only leads men to never facing they may be attracting the wrong people themselves or chosing people that they do not have compatibility with.
We all have flaws and kids is not one, ignoring our own flaws and acknowledging others only leads us further into the arms of the wrong person.
Men just need to let go look to themselves and work on their own flaws to attract a person with flaws they can work around and learn to grow together as partners.
I honestly am very confused about why you would assume a person's age dictates anything further then youth or age.
Either way I hope you find your own happiness and hope you do work on your own flaws.
We all grow everyday and when we allow learn from our misconceptions.
13.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. We don't hate them, but we know her children will come first for many years, and the man will get what's left over. "Hey, want to go out tonight?" "Let me check... sorry I can't get a baby sitter" Why would a single childless man want to deal with that when there are single childless women available?
00 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. 1) Man is never the higher priority to her than the kids..
2) Do you know when a lion conquered a new territory.. He kills the existing Cubs of the lioness so he can pursued them to mate with him..
Being similar to that man do not want to raise other men's kids.. (it's against our natural instinct ) although we repress it because we are civilized..11 Reply- +1 y
Just because we're mammals doesn't mean we're wild.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI don't hate them at all. But I wouldn't date one at my age. I would not like to deal with the problems of schedules to see us or to go out. Obviously the children will be their priority , I would gladly accept their children be priority only if the child was mine too.
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+1 yI will date a Single Mom, the last girl who lives on the West Coast I had to let her down to date her cause the reason I live on the East Coast and I told her distance is the issue, she wanted to date long distance but just think, no physical contact, no dating to eating out, no holding hands, no cuddles, no kisses, no hugs... She had a 2-year-old
child who had heart problems but that wasn't the issue00 Reply- 1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yHate may be the wrong word - but as a matter of fact most single moms are at best reckless people and cause a lot of societal damage.
Most young people with mental instability, suicidal tendencies, criminal tendencies and more come from single mom homes.00 Reply I don't hate them at all. In fact I have more respect for them. I would never let the fact she has kids get in the way. However I have had a bad experience with my exes kid making things difficult for our relationship at times but that's life. I still fell deeply in love with her, who she was, and how she handled things.
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+1 yDon't hate them all, just the ones that actively alienate the father and force the father to go to court just to see his children.
50 Reply 567 opinions shared on Dating topic. First off , guys do not hate single moms, we differentiate between those who could have used any of the 12 methods (in total and counting) and did not or if they are divorced.
And single moms who have lost there partner through illness or accident, these we are most likely to date.00 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yeah congratulations to single mothers for contributing to the destruction of society from within and perpetuating the vicious cycle by giving us more criminals, drug addicts, sluts, white knights, fat man-babies, feminists with strange-coloured hair. Apparently for you we should be praising them instead of hating them for the shit they're producing.
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On point
+1 yI don't hate them, I just no longer date single moms. Had bad experiences with the ones I dated too. I didn't make the mistake of having kids with a partner than it didn't work out. If a couple has kids they better make sure that guy or girl they're with are 100% going to be together forever. Having kids on accident excuse is irresponsible and wreckless in my opinion.
00 ReplyI don't hate them, but I understand why they can be annoying. Quite a lot of them have unrealistic expectations and high standards when it comes to dating. Meanwhile they don't have much to offer, only problems and drama.
20 ReplyProbably a few reasons pop to mind. Younger dudes don’t want to get teased by their friends that they’ve hooked up with a ready made family. Second reason is that guys feel they’ll be chained down by having to be more responsible because of the kids involved.
Obviously, not all men have the same viewpoints and the idea of dating single mom’s doesn’t bother them.00 Reply19.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I’ll date them but I’m not going to get married or make any commitments I’m not the original father. Plus I would always be the third wheel behind the children and feel like an outsider every time we’re all together. All
my plans would have to be made around the children if I had something to do I would be given hell over it00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 ybecause they are the ones supposed to be happy that someone would even think of wanting to touch their tainted lives and be part of it yet they come with all kinds of demands that, frankly, they don't deserve to be given AND they put their child first no matter what. Why would any man put himself through that kind of shit when he could rather take a normal woman without kids
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+1 yHate them? Absolutely not.
I understand that when you go into a relationship with a mother, the kid takes priority. which a great deal of time, makes it really hard to go on dates and do romance stuff, making it extremely difficult for romance to grow.00 Reply
+1 yI certainly don't, I would date a single mum depending on how we got on.
I'd imagine these men adopt a "used goods" approach which to me in my opinion is just so superficial and negligent of what who she is as a person and individual00 Reply
+1 yI ain't instrested or stupid enough to take the responsibility on a kid that isn't mine or in dating a woman that has 3 baby daddies!
This is why I only date 20 year old young childless woman a woman my own age if she single with a kid NO THANKS GOOD BYE!20 Reply- 1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI’m sure you’ve heard of the saying damaged goods & when it comes to dating once someone says they have kids that’s a whole new ballgame & when some people hear that they are out like a fat kid in dodgeball.
00 Reply 4.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. No man Should Hate Them. It is their Right to NOT--Date them. xx
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+1 yFor myself. When rateing a single parent (I was a single dad for a long min an this goes both ways ) the person gets attached the kids then if things go bad. It seems like there's a empty spot from it. Which is wires then missing jus the person tour dating
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+1 yI don't think anyone hates single mothers? where do you get that idea?
would you mind answering some of the questions I've posted?
im also looking for a friend, or someone supportive?10 ReplyI don’t hate them but I am not dealing with or taking care of someone else’s kids especially at my age
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Bro that's why you should go for a 20 year old woman that's what I do woman our age expect us to stepup to the plate.
It really depends on the situation. However in many cases, children can make the relationship complicated especially if the single mom is so overly protective and enabling toward her children, that the man has no disciplinary authority. I know a couple of guys who have married single moms, and those moms consistently undermine their authority in the house.
00 ReplyHate is a strong word. Personally I believe everyone gets turned on by people who make extremely smart decisions but that doesn't mean you'd crucify someone who made a mistake, owned it and is thriving now. I'd never hate a person like that.
00 ReplyThe juxtaposition between the men's and women's answers! Hahahaha!
Don't be her golden parachute, boys!10 Reply- 3K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIts not about hating them. It's just easier not to. Easier to plan time together, can be more spontanious, and if guys you've seen doing this are your age, they aren't ready to settle down
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+1 yI don’t hate single moms, I guess it’s the expectation in my mind that these aren’t my kids and those kids may be somewhat pissed off because their dad is no longer in the family.
10 Reply8.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. I do not hate them. Kids take up a lot of time and resources especially when they are young and often cause friction in a relationship. If the kids were grown I guess I might feel differently.
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Hate? I don't see that.
As long as the single mom was hot guys are still going to want to fuck her but guys are seldom excited about raising someone else's kids.
That does not equal hate.12 Reply- +1 y
U r so wrong Thats why I only date 20 young year old woman that r childless.
No dude wants to deal with bastards.
+1 yKids take up a lot of time (and money) you as a man are just a replacement for the baby daddy who may still be in the picture pissed off/stalking her etc much better to find a childless woman if at all possible
10 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Hate is a pretty strong word implying we wish to do them harm. That is very rare so men don't hate single moms. It is enough to know that single moms are trash and, since they have no value, it is best to avoid any close relationship.
00 Reply16.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. We don't hate then, it's just that we know that they generally aren't dating material (I can think of only one single mom I know who is).
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+1 yThey have a habit of leaving their men. The man is still alive, they either symbolize bad judgement or immature/unloyal behavior. The dilemma is really becoming a pandemic
00 ReplyNot reason for hating single mom personaly. Most dudes avoid kind of relationship simply because they don't share deep relationship or it's because they don't want to take responsibility
10 ReplyHonestly speaking i never have thaught about this...
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