Do you believe there are good men out there?

[chocolatetwopointo]

[Anonymous]

Yes of course. I don’t even see why this is a question. You have men who are cops, who serve in the military, men who are firefighters, men who fix your power lines when they’re down, especially in the winter. You have men who maintain basically everything you use on a daily basis. Everything we use in modernity were pretty much created to men. You have good men who uphold the laws for women to have rights. I’m not trying to be an asshole or something but women were given rights because good men fought to secure those rights for women. Women’s rights didn’t come from them burning their bras in the streets or holding their little signs out on the streets demonstrating. It came from men who thought women should have rights. Yes there are men who think women shouldn’t have rights. If all men were evil, if we all thought women should t have rights it would happen. A lot of women would disagree w this statement, but just think about it. Look at the Middle East in some countries. When we withdrew our soldiers, Isis came right back and things returned to the way they were. Little girls in some of those countries can’t go to school past 4th grade, attend college or drive or work. So yes if all men were evil who thought the same the US would be just the same. But because of good men it’s not like that. Men, again if we were all evil could easily enforce the same thing as the Middle East if we wanted to. This would be about physical force. Some me. Would die cause yes some women would be able to kill men by fighting back, but overall women could never physically conquer men if all men wanted things to be like the Middle East.

[chocolatetwopointo]

loads of those men can be bad. js bc they do one good thing doesn't mean the rest is good. women were given rights bc women fought for them.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes of course a number of people can be bad. Just the same as women. No again if men wanted women to be slaves it could happen easily. America became the country it is by physically fighting against others, not because we went to these other countries protesting w our signs. Men, especially years ago held all the power. Those chose to give it to the women. There’s no real equality if one side of having to ask the other for rights

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so why haven't u?

[Opinion Owner]

Why haven’t I what?

[chocolatetwopointo]

why haven't u taken away our rights?

[Opinion Owner]

lol because I’m not an evil man. I take it you’ve ever been to the Middle East like I have 3 times. As much as you like to think women got their rights by fighting for it, it was up to good men to make sure they got them. If you don’t think that’s true then why don’t women in the Middle East have rights? You think all those women there love being treated like that? That they don’t want to go to school or be able to drive? I doubt it. Those me who are evil are keeping them there.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and those were the same men who took them away in the first place. yeah no shit?💀

[Opinion Owner]

You’re proving my point. If all men were really evil we could do the same here. But we’re not.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and how come there's no good men in the middle east then?

[Opinion Owner]

I’m sure there is but when you’re outnumbered, your family is threatened, even killed, you’re not going to stand up. Some may even if it means dying, but most people would rather be alive to still be there w their family to try to roost them than be dead. If you lived in a country where things were like this, would you step up and protest even if those evil men said they’d behead anyone who speaks out against them. That they’d kill their families as well, especially if you had a mother, father, little brothers and sisters? Maybe you would I don’t know. But I doubt you’d want your whole family slaughtered because you protested them.

[chocolatetwopointo]

well most women r killed for doing anything in afghanistan etc. soo most men are bad?

[Opinion Owner]

Maybe a majority of them in that country are, I don’t know. But again I don’t think every person in that country is bad. Now let me ask you this. If it’s 2024, we want equality why aren’t women forming together to kill off these men who are doing this to them? Why does it have to be the men? You said women got their rights by fighting for them. Why don’t they fight for their rights there? If what you said is true that women got their rights by fighting for them, then things should turn out the same for them ever eventually if these women get out and fight and protest w their signs.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc there's more men who wants to kill women and men r stronger than women, we’d be outnumbered by thousands. bc men will only listen to other men, even now men think women are lower than them. bc they’d get killed easily and most dont wanna risk their life. unlike the US there wasn't as strict rules as it is in the middle east. yeah a woman actually did protest by going around naked somewhere, not sure what happened to her but it was brave asf.

[Opinion Owner]

Ok again you’re proving my point. That women were given rights by good men who fought for these women to have rights. Not cause they stood outside protesting w their signs. Even if someone is outnumbered a good fighting force can still conquer a bigger force. Happens all the time especially in the military. Men don’t always listen to other men. There’s a lot of stupid ass men out there.

[chocolatetwopointo]

now tell me this, would men have given them the rights if women wouldn't have started fighting and protesting for them in the first place? if they wouldn't, they’re not a good man. Most men esp in power, only listen to only men. Women are not always allowed into the military so it would take a long time to get a big enough force.

[Opinion Owner]

No they wouldn’t. Again you’re proving my point that women did not get their rights by protesting cause if women did that in the Middle East they’d be killed. That’s why I said good men who fought for women’s rights gave them those rights. I don’t know what country you’re in but in the states women basically have the right to join the military, drive a car, go to college. I can’t think of one thing a man can do that a female can’t. Now let me ask you this. If you village was being attacked by 1,000 armed military men, would you rather 1,000 armed women protect it or 1,000 armed men? Knowing that your entire family lived in that village, that they could potential to ally all die, who would you pick to defend your village?

[chocolatetwopointo]

and thats why i said that those good guys wouldn't have done shit if women didn't start. so infact they’re not a good man. yes no fucking shit, im talking about the military not ab cars or college, in the military men are seen as a better candidate no matter how fit or experienced the woman is. thats life. probably men, if there were more women then id pick women, but women dont stand a chance to a man.

[Opinion Owner]

You’d pick women because you’re a female. That’s sad. Let me guess your father is a bad man?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what now? when did i say that? pls qoute it. nah my dads fine but he has his flaws.

[Opinion Owner]

So he’s a good man. Every man in your life is bad?

[chocolatetwopointo]

im still waiting for the answer for my first question, but no lets keep talking ab my dad! nah most r fine but every man has his flaws

[chocolatetwopointo]

and when i asked this question, i meant as in people that i could be friends with or potentially date, none of y'all seem to get that.

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. Just like women, a lot of good
Women too but they have flaws. That’s why I don’t even know why you’d ask if there are good men out there knowing that a majority of the men if you’re life are fine.

[chocolatetwopointo]

then its a good thing im not lesbian lol. yeah well those r 40+ but i would never date someone with their kind of personality. my dad is very aggressive (he didn't abuse me) and id never date an aggressive man

[Opinion Owner]

Then maybe you should clarify that more. What you said or asked was a broad question. Even so regardless of whether it was what you meant it to be or how I answered it, yes there’s still good men out there. I think too many women as well as men are just brainwashed by social media.

[Opinion Owner]

Aggressive how?

[chocolatetwopointo]

sure sure there there, didn't mean to hurt ur ego. how are we brainwashed? like when he watches sports he's always yelling like really loud i always jump at that, and he's also pretty big so he could prolly kill me if he wanted to, i would never date a man like that.

[Opinion Owner]

Ok first off I didn’t get my feelings hurt. Your words have no impact on my feelings. Especially after you’ve been in other countries where people have tried to kill you. My point is if you’re asking for specific answers you need to be specific about what you’re asking.
Just because he yells doesn’t mean he’s aggressive. Does he throw things, slam things, destroy the tv or stuff like that? Maybe he’s just passionate about his sports. How’s that different than when women are on the street yelling, screaming about their fights? Is that aggressive too? I might do the same w sports myself but I’m not out there beating up people, fighting, being an asshole or cutting people off on the road when I drive. I have a family of 16 years, w two girls, one boy. Sometimes being aggressive is a good thing otherwise things don’t get done.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay good👍 I've heard more men yell ab sports than I've heard women scream ever in my life. and he's js in a bad mood all day after and we walk on eggshells around him then. how is being aggressive a good thing? i dont want an aggressive partner.

[Opinion Owner]

A lot
Of times I have to be aggressive, meaning going after what I need to get things done that will support my family. That will make things better for my family. Maybe aggressive is the wrong word because aggressive can be violent but it could also be ready to confront someone or something. I have had to confront people in the hospital when I’ve taken my girl or my children to the hospital only to find out oh we forgot to check them in or any number of things. I have to be the same sometimes working in a hospital because let’s face it there’s a lot of lazy people working in society. If a man wants to get to a better life, even if woman she has to be aggressive. Me sing they’re ready to confront others or things to get the results they want. I’m sure a lot of women don’t want a man who’s just going to let everyone run over him. They want a man who is going to speak up, who can take the initiative. Was your dad in the military?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah i understand that, but personally i dont want kids or a family. id want a man who can handle himself and doesn't need my help. nope he never worked in the military he has the basic dad bod but still very strong

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. So at this age you have different thoughts. It may change years from now. Why do you say you don’t want a family? Other than saying he’s aggressive have you thought where does this come from? Why don’t have to walk on eggshells w him? I was the same for a long time. Even my girl has told me that but now she said I’m different. But the difference is that women don’t have to live the life of a man. A lot of women think it’s easy being a man, but it really isn’t. It may seem like it cause we don’t talk about it or complain about it. Men just understand no one is coming to save us. We righter cry and get left behind or we dig our way out of it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

it won't change, trust me. bc im studying to become a lawyer and lawyers work a lot. so i wouldn't have time for a family, and i could never stand a kid for longer than like 10 min and i would never go through birth. and i doubt id find a man. ig anger issues and maybe adhd, my grandma told me that. if im not careful while talking to my dad while he's mad, he might like pop off and become real mad and yell, thats scary to me. what does this have to do with a man being able to cry? my mom has made it clear its okay for him to cry, I've never seen any of my parents cry personally tho.

[Opinion Owner]

What I meant was no one is coming to save us men so we can either cry n get left behind or we figure something out. Chances are if you meet a man he will be like your father. You may say no I won’t but it happens a lot. Have you talked to your mom. Like what made her go for him. Even if she said he want like this in the beginning, why did she continue to be w him? Well I wish you the best in whatever you do.

[chocolatetwopointo]

if i meet a man like that, i js won't date him. my mom likes him bc she likes his manly build and beard. i like neither of those things.

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. I gotta crash out. I have to work tonight. It was nice talking
Tomyou

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok byebye

[Opinion Owner]

I can message later if you’d like to converse more. If not wish you the best.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah sure, can we priv chat tho?

[Darwin_n_chill]

The vast majority now more than ever, I'd say. However, because of the situation that society puts them in in many ways, men may commit minor acts of deception, like pretending that they're more interested in commitment than they actually are, but by the same token, women will also pretend like they're more interested in sex than they actually are in order to get a free dinner. The interesting thing is that the best men for a young woman to potentially marry are the ones that are a bit older, say 30 to 35, but now our culture tells you not to do that so...

[Kayleigh2005]

Yes, I use to sit on my mothers bfs laps and most of them didn't try anything

And I posted about what I do on Halloween and a lot of guys didn't take advantage of me drunk and passed out

Men are great and love them ❤️

[mandyfire98]

Of course. They're just getting drowned out by a vocal minority hopefully. I refuse to believe that sociopathy is that rampant in our society.

[sawno]

Many, but you are 16 so your not going to have much options yet. The boys need to grow up first before you will notice them being good rather than sex obsessed.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i never wanted them, im js asking fpr safety

[sawno]

For safety its more important you recognize the good guys from the ones who will be dishonest to get something. Easiest trick is seeing if they are willing to disagree with you or show that they don't have an interest in common. I saw a good example on gag today, the guy she was talking to was suggesting he could come over so she could read tarot cards for him. The OP of that question posted a few screenshots and probably had it listed that she is in to that stuff. The guy had nothing knowledgeable to say about it and immediately used it to try and come over. Thats a dishonest creep. If he had actually been into tarot he'd have shared his own knowledge about it, if he had a genuine interest he'd be asking questions or opted to do the online reading she said she could do rather than using it a bait to get laid.

Honest good guys will be themselves with you, the bad ones will try to impress you by doing things they don't actually believe.

[chocolatetwopointo]

sadly u can't always know that until it actually happens. most guys r different and have different techniques.

[Unit1]

No, we're all cheaters

I get it. You hate men. Why do you ask this then? Shouldn't you join the ongoing gender wars?

[chocolatetwopointo]

i think somebody got a little triggered

[Unit1]

I know it's you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and what could i be triggered off?

[Unit1]

men.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[coxoabean]

Yes I do believe there are. You just have to meet them in the right places:)

[NathanDavis]

yeah... I was at Costco, but now I am in here, at my place

[Emmytexrex]

Is your dad a good man if he is you have gotten your answer

[chocolatetwopointo]

i meant as in that i could date, not my 40 yr old dad, but he has his flaws

[Emmytexrex]

There you go there a some good man out there but they have there flaws and there a ton of bad men out there too
You can't just tell if someone is good or bad if you don't observe there personality

[chocolatetwopointo]

did u not read the first thing i said? yeah ik? but most guys ik r manwhores, i would never date a manwhore

[Jennz6]

There was a movie, “A FEW GOOD MEN”, probably true 💃💯

[LiamS95]

I know there is cause I'm a pretty nice guy.

[Anonymous]

Do you believe there are intelligent 16 yo females out there?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah im one of them, the men thing tho.. not so sure,

[Opinion Owner]

Nah, you have posted more than enough nonsense on GAG to prove you are a dumbshit.

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao like what?

[Opinion Owner]

Like this question, which isn't really a question at all. You're just taking a jab at all men because you're a dumbshit kid who doesn't know she's a dumbshit kid and has has allowed herself to be radicalized by rhetoric from femcels online. But this is just one example of countless ones I've read from you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i think somebody got a little offended here

[Opinion Owner]

Nah, nothing a dumbshit kid says offends me. I just like to call out stupidity where it lives. I'm trying to help you be a better person. You're welcome.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah yeah okay lmao have fun

[katiesmuff]

Yes I know there are!

[chocolatetwopointo]

how?

[katiesmuff]

Well from my dad, three brothers, my hubby, the guys that work for me, the many hundreds of customers from all over the world I have been able to meet and from the men I have met while on vacations to name a few.

[Apple1996]

Yes but they are rare

[sawno]

What part do you find rare to find?

[Apple1996]

@sawno finding men with empathy and men who acutally want to protect women.

[sawno]

I'd assume there would be plenty of empathic men, but perhaps I am biased since I have very strong empathy myself. In what sense do you mean protect in this case? Do you mean that as in physical fights or in a more broad sense?

[Apple1996]

@sawno protective in all ways. Physical, mental and emotional. Making women feel safe in all those areas

[sawno]

Emotional I am fantastic at, the physical part I am still working on improving. I have a slender body type so gains aren't easy.

[laly520]

I do

[chocolatetwopointo]

why?

[laly520]

cuz im with a good man for example

[jahaims]

Duh.

[chocolatetwopointo]

u sure?

[Adel50]

There are.

[Sinemm]

Nope😅

[jahaims]

They just want nothing to do with you.

[sawno]

@jahaims That is how that works, if girls are going to openly hate on men instead of showing they have a nice personality all the guys who are loyal and date because they love a girl for the whole picture are going to skip due to the lacking personality. I expect girls are mostly hating on here and not on their dates though, but if they are any good guy would walk.

[Sinemm]

@jahaims ı I know lol😅

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes.