Why do guys say that their infatuation with looks is the same as girls' wealth requirements?

[Bethany22]

It's not the same thing!!! While guys become infatuated with a beautiful woman, girls become hopeful around a rich guy, but may not become infatuated until later. So guys stop trying to make yourselves seem less superficial!! Acknowledge how superficial you are for once.

[Cormac995]

I've rarely met a man who won't admit he's superficial. Humans like pretty things we have since we were chimps, and nothing is going to change that. Frankly from my experience it's woman who are the privileged brats with unrealistic standards and bitchy attitudes. This screams Simler vibes like some jaded woman wanting to bitch at men on the internet. This isn't twitter level but it's getting there. I hear people bitch about how woman are treated but the double standard for men and how badly things are on our end pretty much kills most of my sympathy.

When a woman cries everyone flocks to comfort her, when a man cries, he's weak. When a man is a murderer, he gets 20 years when a woman does, she gets ten, single fathers almost never get alimony and single moms almost always do. Male pedo's get less than they deserve as is, but female pedos are often perceived as "gifting" themselves to an underaged boy. Worse sometimes it's encouraged by men who have no fucking clue what they're talking about.

Men are expected to be wealthy, strong, take the lead in everything and have all the responsibility of providing a womans needs but when her husband want's something she's busy or has an excuse my mom did it to my dad daily more often than not multiple times a day.

The guy also always gets fucked in the divorce even when his "Wife" was a cheating whore. Woman, have a very easy time getting full custody even when they are abusive, and the father is the better parent, and after all of these men falsely accused of rape can basically do jack shit about it or at least they couldn't until recently if I'm remembering right, a new law was passed making it illegal to lie about that as it should be!

Then men are the ones who are expected to pay for everything too. Dates? man pays. Rings? Man pays. Wedding? Man pays most of the time, but family help is pretty common to be fair. In my whole life I met one met two woman who were ok with going on dates Dutch and once you want them to pay their way most woman will just walk away.

We're constantly used by woman for thing over and over but when we want friendship or emotional investment, they're perfectly happy to use us for help not give a shit about our feelings. That's called stringing someone along. Then there are the girls who have boyfriends who let guys hit on them at the bar and spend 20 bucks on drinks and THEN conveniently mention they have a boyfriend.

They complain that men never want anything serious but they're just swiping right on every hot guy they see just like the men do with woman and don't give a shit about anything else. Men are superficial about these things sure I won't deny it but hypocrisy pisses me off. Men don't have this magical ability in society that gives us special advantages anymore that's gone there is no such thing as male privileged the only privilege in our country is wealth. If anything, these days in many ways woman have the advantage now and men are at the disadvantage.

I could go on more and more this is a long list of bullshit hypocrisy and double standards but let's stop pretending men are the only ones who are superficial assholes. As a woman in a first world country, you have one of the greatest lives in human history so as a bitchy white woman on twitter would say to dismiss an argument with no valid defense. "Check your privilege."

Being a woman doesn't suck, being a human sucks, women aren't special because they're woman and men aren't special because they're men. You were lied to your whole life, you not special no one is except people like trump, Elon and all their little peons because they have money and power.

[Stevepro68]

I am not sure that they are the same thing they just have the same similarities. Both qualities are stereotypical. They are both things that we as society put on other peoples relationships. Externally. Oh that's why she is with him he has money. Oh of course he chasing her she hot. Attraction is complex and only the emotionally broken truly decide relationships based on these 2 factors in the opposite sex. We as outsiders are bitten by confirmation bias. Men are superficial therefore its the reason. Women are provider focused and its that reason. Just often enough we see it to confirm what we already know. Despite these thoughts they are both right and wrong.

[Crimsyjo]

Hm. I guess from the viewpoint of status... a man sees a beautiful woman as adding to his status. And a woman sees a rich husband as adding to her status. So in that way it's similar.

But its also different if you are talking actual infatuation. I don't think women get infatuated with wealth. And like it's morally more acceptable to be infatuated with a person over their possessions or assets which seems kinda cold.

[Nikki1989]

What you are saying is a flawed and a very disingenuous argument. You are confused on several levels here, and what you say about girls and rich guys is a ridiculous stereotype.

[Shiprex]

Men are infatuated with the PERSON a whole lot more than the packaging. You've never heard men say we prefer the natural look of a woman but STILL you all insist on plastering on the products (expecting men to be grateful and even contribute to) that actually creates a barrier between them and the actual prize and even causes a mask to be put up between them.

Those are NATURAL traits while wealth and prosperity aren't. Ambition and dominance are also less superficial but within the spectrum of traits used by women chasing men.

[HighlyQuestionable]

You're absolutely right. It's not the same thing. When a man (or anyone else) falls in love with another's beauty, it's still falling in love. When a gold-digger or gigolo becomes "hopeful" (maybe that "p" is misplaced) she or he is hopeful in the same way that a turkey vulture is "hopeful" looking down on a lame steer in the desert. There is simply no comparison, I've never met a girl or woman and thought "man, I hope she's got a good job so I can sponge off her".

[236color]

So guys are superficial because they want attractive women, but you're not because you want a rich man? Both men and women need to have a more realistic assessment of their possibilities. Guys that are 4s only set themselves up for failure if they insist on a 9 or 10. Honey, if you're making 35k a year, it not likely a Millionaire is going to risk his hard earned wealth on someone very likely to decide he owes her half of his net worth just because she fucked him.

[NicholasRedone]

Sometimes a (non whackjob/non nutcase guy) guy will eyeball a woman. Before she's realised because she's got something he wants + her hair is iconic, her face shape is iconic or her bone structure unique "I always wanted 5 foot tall" lol

[Anonymous]

Isn't it more superficial to get into a relationship with someone for their wealth with no interest in them personally; than to get into a relationship with someone you find attractive? Like if Anthony Fauci was poor; nobody would be interested in dating him. Yet if Zendaya was poor; nobody who would date her would care. Or from another perspective, if you are dating someone for their money and they lose it overtime; you are more likely to leave them. However, if you date someone for their looks and they lose them overtime you are more likely to stay with them. I don't know, I don't feel like I am explaining it well.

[Anonymous]

How is it that you can dictate what uniforms men. We have every right to say we think otherwise just as you do. Don’t speak for us men as you k ow nothing of what being a man is about just as I don’t know what being a female is about. To us men it is what we say it is just the same as you think what you think it is. They’re both transactional.

[Sonorous]

Humans in general are superficial. But women are more superficial because evolutionary reasons. Being the child bearer of the species raises great need for the superficial.

[RavVid]

Well I think girls can't keep their tongue in their when they get hopeful just as men can't when they are infatuated.

Same, same but no different. :)

[HungTexan]

I think it’s obvious that most guys can become infatuated with a hot gorgeous woman. To compare that to a woman’s interest in finding a man with money and power is silly.

[OlderAndWiser]

I am not one of those guys, but I think that the idea is that they are both "shallow" requirements to be expecting in a potential partner.

[AnonAndrew]

Both men and women are a bit superficial and get infatuated with the opposite sex because of their looks.

[oldpigg]

I don't look at a woman's wealth but at her university career ( medicine). A rich woman without a career is still useless.

[Shy_Steve]

If us Guys liking beautiful Girls is superficial then we must be superficial.

What is the female equivalent for Guys liking beautiful Girls then?

[GAGsucksballs89170]

Because most girls these days ask "so what do you do". Give me a girl who doesn't, and I'll show you a guy who doesn't care about how a girl looks

[MicahRaine]

Both are purely material. I have an issue with both sides.

[BarryLiverstone]

Both guys and girls find looks attractive. How is that superficial?

[msc545]

Girls begin to scheme and plot around rich men - "hope" is a minor part of it.

[Sunrising]

I'm superficial then, and not rich 😢 XD !

[beefcakebradybatson]

Because it basically is.

[jahaims]

Go to therapy

[TallAnon]

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