Okay, it looks like You actually heeded my advice to look up ShoeOnHead's channel. If You of all people brought up the "Male Loneliness Epidemic", I cannot think about a different source for this term than Her channel. Now... The Male Loneliness Epidemic is not the only worthwhile wideo on Her channel. Actually, most if not all of them are worthwhile, even for people like me who, being Polish or otherwise knowledgeable about communism/socialism, could never stand up for socialist policies. In particular, You should definitely watch Her "Men Deserve To Be Lonely!" Responding to Backlash Over 'The Male Loneliness Epidemic' video. Now... I do not think You would ever accept a male comment, so it is best if You look it up Yourself, but one of the important points She brings up is that the suicidal men are basically never the "horrible people". In fact, it is the most honest and vulnerable men who end up taking their own lives.
Then again, there are so many more videos on Her channel You would benefit from, including a video on the MGTOW movement (or rather men being understandably apprehensive of interactions with women in general) on women's lives. Long story short, it is not pretty. Mind You, men are hardwired for war through millenia of "kicking the bucket" while defending their loved ones (mainly women). If they ever decide to wage a full-blown war on the society in general or on women in particular, this current crisis would get even worse.
what does that have to do with my question?
@chocolatetwopointo Well... I do mention that You are wrong about those lonely men being horrible people in the first place (basically falsifying the assumptions of Your question). It is just that I know I have very little in the way of proving this to You, so I am referring You to an expert You might find trustworthy, since She is not a man.
okay, but most are.
@chocolatetwopointo Even if it was true, and it is not, it would not justify scapegoating all lonely men. The problem is, it is the men who are even visible to women in the first place who can and in some specific cases will be horrible. Lonely men are not horrible, not to women, anyway, because there are no women in their lives (except maybe their mothers, who these days still mostly just instill the guilt for being a man in them). It is people in power (men or women, it does not matter), people of status, who can and in some, maybe even most cases are horrible, and it is exactly because they can and in most cases, they will get away with it. Though to get a proof of this part, I am afraid You will need to visit Christine Grace Smith instead of ShoeOnHead.
im so fucking tired of the ”not all men” bs. can y'all stfu about that shit. everybody knows it already and nobody cares. if ur not part of it DONT BE OFFENDED.
@chocolatetwopointo We are not offended, some of us are just kind of desperate to reason with any women who can be reasoned with in order to end the gender war that is currently demolishing Western societies, or at least to tone it down, let the mad men and mad women tear each other apart while the sane ones prosper.
if men would have treated us equally we would’ve never had to have gender wars. and the ”gender wars” ur talking ab is js women saying they dont feel comfortable around men
I think it's because a lot of very good average men are being overlooked by very average women or these men have gotten married, had kids and done everything they were supposed to do as a father and husband only to be divorced and cheated on for some flakey reason and then find themselves turfed out of the home they've spent 10-20 years working to pay for, paying alimony and child support to a woman who is no longer their wife and for kids they are lucky to even see at the weekend, while his ex has slotted another man into his place as husband, lover and even father. And he is left alone in some crummy one bedroom apartment.
That happened recently to a neighbour of ours. His ex invited us all around to a bbq she and her new fiancee (guy she had been cheating with for a year and got clymdia off) were having. The new guy was playing host, barbecuing on the ex husband’s grill, watching his tv, drinking his beer, playing pool on the guy's pool table and playing happy family with his kids who frankly hate the guy and I don't blame him.
I see this a lot and I have real sympathy for those guys.
if he was, then why would she divorce him?
Many reasons. Because she was "unhappy", she was "bored", there was no "spark", "he works too much", "he doesn't earn enough", "i just fell for the other guy", " he was emotionally never there", " he was not the same guy i married". There are a whole range of excuses these women invent to justify what they are doing and of course they are finacially rewarded. Truthfully despite they being the ones who did wrong they act like they are victims and become quite bitter especially if the husband moves on with another, a few years later they regret their actions because that loyal average guy husband who would have supported them no matter what has moved on and the guy they left him for has either moved on or treats her like shit because no good man is going to stay with a woman that has a history of cheating or one he can't trust.
There's also other female friends or relatives who are jealous or have or are doing the same thing that encourage them to cheat or leave their husband's and give advice on how to blindside them. I've encountered a few women like this.
if he was, then whats the problem with a divorce?
But was he or was she just selfish and irresponsible? You can tell she regrets it because he was a good husband to her, good provider and good father but he wouldn't take her back because she was cheating. She is really bitter about it, keeps his kids off him a lot, gets upset if he is seeing another woman.
If you've a good man you keep him and you don't disrespect him or dishonour yourself in front of your kids.
id love to see how many relationships that ACTUALLY are like this and not u projecting
80% of divorces are instigated by women. It's not that relationships are all actually like this, remember you question is about male loneliness epidemic. Very hard for a divorced husband/father to start again. He still has to work to support his ex and kids but doesn't get to see him and it can be hard for him to find another partner what with financial problems living in a 1 bed apartment. This is why it's so important to look after the men in your life be it your father, son, brother, uncle, cousin, husband.
ok and? what does that prove? give me ur source to all ur info.
if he doesn't get to see them, he did something bad to them and isn't allowed.
okay then dont date such women, not that hard🤷♀️
they can handle themselves.
Like I say many of these women are bitter after cheating and divorce.
Victim complex. It's like never cleaning your body, and nobody wanting to be near you, then blaming them for being alone. They bitch about the societal norms and culture that they made, enforced and perpetuated for thousands of years globally. Child support, concept by men. Divorce, concept by men. Restraining emotions, concept by men. Etc.
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To ask such a question, you'd need to be able to prove that the men who complain about the so-called "male loneliness epidemic" are genuinely horrible people. Otherwise, it's nothing but a projection.
what? everybody else is agreeing. ur the only one questioning it. get over urself lonely male.
I believe in independent thought and verifiable statistics, not just what people say or agree with. This is why many people remain ignorant in the modern world.
At the very least, if the statement is true, you should be able to provide proof to back it up.
im way too lazy to do that rn and idgaf if u believe me or not but this is common sense.
I know you are, which is why I don't usually take you seriously.
nah its cuz im sick and bc its 23:39
Those aren't my problems. It seems like you're well enough to be ranting online and making such claims. Besides, I don't think you can back up what you're saying with solid evidence. It doesn’t matter whether you're sick, it's the middle of the night, or even if you have superhuman powers.
u can simply google it up if ur that invested i js dont care for u that much.
Of course, you don’t have the proof. In situations like this, it's usually the person making the claim who provides the evidence, not the other way around. But I wouldn’t expect you to know anything about evidence-based knowledge—only emotionally appeasing information.
Well, I Googled what you asked me to, and apparently, I couldn’t find any research or data on this subject that supports what you’ve stated.
@MongozDish Bro stop wasting time…. There’s no point arguing with dumb people
honey i dont care if u dont believe me. go on with ur life.
yeah right, google again. not that hard.
It has nothing to do with women being afraid of men.
The main reason is some men refuse to put in effort to make themselves desirable to the beautiful women they feel entitled to.
Then, there's the guys who straight up hate women because of a few bad experiences they had.
its both
They cry cause they can't get sex It's not so much about loneliness, they feel ugly cause no woman want to have sex with them but once they'er able to get one to have sex with them they cheat on them, those that complain are just bad people.
LOL... excellent question! I guess it's because they are clueless, immature idiots who are easily led by other immature assholes (like Trump or Andrew Tate).
I didn't knew it was an epidemic I m kinda perverted but I keep it to myself unless a girl wants to play talk about that stuff
yeah no. definetly keep that to urself.
Mhm I don't want to scare the girls
yeah so leave them alone.
Ok because you say so😔
do everybody a favor and get off this app.
Oof now that I can't sorry I'll behave to stay.
ok ill block u, ur creeping me out
Incels, abusive husbands/fathers/boyfriends. They suck. I understand women who hate them. Can't blame them. They're pos
ignorant.
Enlighten me then. What happened to you because of these assholes? What did you go through? Asking you as a girl who knows better than me since I'm a guy.
omfg🤦♀️ smartest American.
Will you answer my question? I understand if you don't want to, it is personal.
not until u answer mine.
Men complain because they're controlled by their lust and have tunnel vision when they're horny
oh god. u really aren't that intelligent r u?
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend, honestly.
im not the one who should be offended here
Well I don't mean to offend anyone
okay? I don't know what that has got to do with this?
Well to answer this question I'd say that guys have double standards for girls and also only think with their hormones so they get rejected and then they're surprised why, they don't even realize that they're being assholes when they are
still not my question.
If you are specifically talking about men who do bad stuff then sure. Let them get what they deserve. 🤷🏽♂️
I'm alone but not horrible.
okay?
where did i say all? I don't know where ur getting the ”all” from? id love to see.
where did i say all?
but i never said all. so i didn't mean all. why is this so hard for u men to understand? if ur not fucking part of those ”men” why are u so fucking offended? im not offended when people say ”women”. bc im not part of those women. retarded fuck.
how is that ur fucking focus rn? onfg. being racist, homophobic, sexist etc, apparently there's no man ever thats none of this and a decent human being.
then ur probably ugly as hell.
yeah right. there u got it. how tf u got a mishaped dick? probably some surgery to fix it then go sleep with a whore and you’ll be fine then
lmao. imagine being such a gooner ur dick is mishaped💀
google it up
ur a gooner. get help and go to therapy pls. so u js jerk off to nothing?💀 or ru one of those old school guys who have magazines💀
thats even more disgusting
bro. js fuck off yk ur disgusting and get fucking help u disgusting retard
yes there is. js stfu.
nobody else does it. stop being fucking disgusting.
so? no u fucking ignore it u disgusting pig. we all know u fantasize ab girls yk and thats why nobody likes u u creep
Umm, lots of guys fantasize about girls? No? Should I fantasize about guys, then? I happen to be straight, not gay. Most straight guys fantasize about girls, don't they? As long as they leave girls alone what's wrong with it?
And I can't ignore it or it never goes down, I just "fantasize" and it's over with. I just do it a lot and all of my friends (who are girls) don't know that I need to do it a couple times before bed every day. Big deal. I keep it to myself, so what's wrong with that?
And if you must know, my fantasies usually involve women judging me "down there" and then having sex with another guy while I'm still hard. It's because of past experiences I've with women who've seen my erection (the way it looks), laughed, and left me sexually frustrated. I understand why they didn't want to sleep with me, to be honest. One told me my erection was "deformed", so I get why a woman wouldn't want that. Thinking about situations like that does make me very turned on though when I masturbate so it's over pretty quick.
ok and? doesn't make it less disgusting. how about, be normal and dont fantasize at all? its FUCKING DISGUSTING. what do u not understand. how do u think those girls would react if u told them u fantasize about them? they would not be happy most likely, thats why its disgusting. yes u can ignore it u gooner. u got a problem, get therapy.
i dont give a fuck about ur imaginations.
get therapy. ur fucking disgusting.
Well my friends who are girls don't know I have those fantasies and they've never seen my erection (and I'm not going to show it to them, since they would wonder what happened to it). They probably assume that I masturbate (since they know I'm single) but they don't know that I do it so much. But they're understanding, they know guys have needs.
How would a therapist help me with my erections? I have them a lot and I can't command them to get soft. If you knew anything about guys you'd understand that.
exactly. THATS WHY ITS DISGUSTING. imagine if they found out. would they still be ur friend? if ur answer is no, then u should get therapy.
guys dont have needs ur js fucking disgusting. ur therapist would help u stop fantasizing ab ur friends and ur addiction. you can ignore it, everyone gets horny not js men.
I don't molest or harass any women so why am I disgusting? I keep my fantasies to myself. I'm sorry if you think of what I do and imagine is disgusting. It's just human nature though. You don't understand that guys have needs? What should I do when I get an erection and it won't go away?
BC U FANTASIZE ABOUT INNOCENT WOMEN. how can u not see a problem with this? ITS NOT HUMAN NATURE. stop being so fucking disgusting. GUYS DONT HAVE NEEDS. js fucking ignore it. it’ll go away its not permanent. u need fucking serious help.
yes you are. and if she found out? keyword ”if” do you think she would be happy or creeped out?
you seriously think they wouldn't be creeped out ab u fantasizing them naked and having sex? these delusional men. u fucking addict get help.
there's ur answer. do u find nothing weird about that? STOP TALKING ABOUT UR MISHAPED FUCKING DICK. I DO NOT CARE.
I. DONT. CARE. ur a fucking addict and u need help. i feel so bad for those women. r they even over 18?
mhm right. sure but not about THEM. ur so disgusting its making me sick.
but not fantasizing about THEM. god im like actually gonna throw up. remind me to never go into a mans house.
We're good friends and we've known each other for a long time. It can't hurt them if they don't know that I wish they could see my erection. They're never naked in my fantasies and we don't have sex. It just feels really good when I masturbate thinking about those kinds of scenarios.
YES IT CAN R U FUCKING RETARDED? why tf would anyone wanna know that ur fantasizing about them. UR SO DISGUSTING GET HELP.
then go on. tell them. tell them about ur fantasys and see how many friends u have left. go on.
tell them.
I just need to keep going because it feels so good when I cum. I get hard and if I think of those things my erection is gone. It feels good and it's a huge relief. I don't expect you, as a woman, to understand what it's like to have a throbbing erection that needs to be taken care of all the time.
so yk its disgusting?
get help u disgusting pervert.
I know it's disgusting, but it's not as bad as a guy who harasses a woman and touches her without her wanting it and sending them dick pics. I leave them alone.
All my fantasies are just like, they're fully clothed, we never have sex. They just notice I'm hard and they ask me to show it to them. I pull down my pants/underwear, it goes "boing!" when it pops out, and they laugh and tell me I'll never get a girlfriend and I'll never know what it's like to be inside a woman and all the penises they've seen are straight and bigger than mine and they'll laugh at me while they're having sex with their bfs
stop trying to look like the good guy. ur js as bad. fucking disgusting. I DONT CARE ABOUT UR FANTASYS STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM.
yes u are. stop being disgusting its making me sick. ur blocked.
i never told u to tell them u retard. it was a point to prove that they wouldn't be happy ab it and thats why its fucking disgusting. god i hate men y'all r so retarded
we literally have body parts we can't control either? u think we chose to have periods?
so you’ve never heard of a girl bleeding through her pants?
no its not?
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