In your opinion, is it necessary for a guy to become a father in order to have a comprehensive understanding of manhood?

[Kingofkings1992]

Yes

No

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[Anonymous]

No.

It is like a girl doesn’t understand womanhood until she has a child.

Gender is just a part of you as an individual and doesn’t define you as a person.
You can be a father figure without having your own children, same with motherly figures like teachers, nurses, babysitters, etc.

[OneViewpoint]

Yes in my opinion based on my experience you can’t know it unless you have lived it.

It would be like me trying to understand what life is like for a Black man in this country. I just never will.

[petitedollbabee]

No, because many men continue to be losers after having a kid, and then the kid & the kids mom are stuck with a deadbeat dad. I think that therapy is a much better solution, many men are insecure with their masculinity.

[Kingofkings1992]

Fair point

[OneViewpoint]

Your logic is horrible.

The question is can you be a complete man without knowing fatherhood?

It was not “Do some men fail at manhood despite experiencing fatherhood?”.

Of course there are assholes who can’t be saved from failure as a man no matter what.

But I’d argue a man who has never been a father is missing a vital component of manhood. Even if he is an excellent person.

[mrshooiser]

Fuck that just act like a damn man with morals.

[McLlovin]

It’s reverse. It’s important to have a father in your life. You can learn eventually on your own, but that not only is that the way harder way it also effects your growth mentally as a man but also how you view women and just generally how you interact with people. Having both parents is the most import thing in a persons life. Love it or hate it; your parents being in or not in your life impacts you very very greatly. You can over come it, but like i said that is the hard road. The difference is like driving a car and riding a bike. Eventually you’ll get to the destination but one is easier and faster.

[Amy_Mi]

Not necessarily.

Fatherhood refines a man but it doesn’t define him.

Manhood is about integrity, accountability, and emotional intelligence not just genetics or diapers.

A man who protects, provides, and leads with empathy already carries the essence of fatherhood in his soul,
whether or not he ever holds a child in his arms.

[Shiprex]

Having sex and making someone pregnant defines you as a MAMMAL not a man. Your character is not defined by this and neither is your masculinity.

Couragous, steady emotionally and reliable are key factors in what it takes to be a man. Lots of women will post seöfish reasons such they benefit from like provide, protect etc., that are misandrist expectations that men's purpose is to serve others. It's not. It's to positively contribute to society not the individual.

[Kelley1]

There is probably a coorolation, but one doesn't imply the other.

[exitseven]

No, guys can reach manhood in other ways. They can choose a leadership role in an organization or can mentor younger people.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Becoming parents is the ultimate expression of either gender. It's really the only reason we're here.

[Ironco]

It's more in your experiences I'd say, you make your own man. With or without children.

[Anonymous]

They want their copy after they become a man. Not the other way around. Baby doesn't do affect

[Anonymous]

Some of the wisest men in the world are under vows of celibacy

[DrPepper12]

No. 🚫