Obesity is Not Beautiful

[Josht13]

Yes beauty is subjective etc etc, but lets be honest here most people find being overwhelmingly fat very unattractive. Or at least I though until I saw this question on gag:

https://www.girlsaskguys.com/qt/how-do-i-look/q2276378-what-do-you-think-of-my-beach-body

I was honestly shocked at some of the responses:

"Beautiful. I also admire the fact that you seem happy. That's the best thing that makes you beautiful"

"Very pretty." "you look nice, 7/10"

I'm not going to call these people wrong and that they shouldn't think like this (although I do think many are being disingenuous), but they shouldn't be encouraging this we need to remember

OBESITY IS NOT BEAUTIFUL: THE HEALTH RISKS

You are eating yourself to death, obesity is a gigantic factor for heart attacks THE BIGGEST KILLER IN THE US, UK and many other MEDC countries. Obesity is also a major factor for type 2 diabetes making you 5x more likely to have a heart attack or stroke, and if left untreated blood vessels will become clogged with fatty substances resulting in poor blood flow and frequent heavy chest pains and numerous foot ulcers which can lead to infection and amputation of the feet. For a full list of in-depth symptoms of obesity read this:

https://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Obesity/Pages/Introduction.aspx

just scrolling through that you can see that it is not right for people to tell people they are fine as they are, you cannot be healthy at this

size and you are putting a strain on your body that it won't recover from.

THE ECONOMIC COSTS:

this is a particularly infuriating to me living in the united kingdom where the taxpayers have to pay to have obese people put a massive strain on the economy and the clogged up NHS (that saves lives from people who have life threatening problems that can't be helped) all because people can't get a grip on their own appetite, as you can see by the infographic above obesity is costing £27 billion to the wider economy with taxpayers taking the brunt of the damage, obesity is clearly very selfish as it affects all of society.

Obesity is an epidemic and at the current rate it's only getting worse, we need to stop putting a strain on resources and gorging ourselves and focus on some self discipline. Which is why I go back to what I said and I implore people whether you think it's attractive to be obese or not to not encourage it the problems of it are far reaching and you should tell people that they SHOULD lose weight to become healthier and most likely happier.

For anyone struggling with weight loss, COUNT YOUR CALORIES, if you expend more energy than you consume you WILL lose weight, eat less, exercise more, drink more water it's as simple as that. If you want more advice on the best foods to use, what types of macros you should have and what exercise check out this beginners guide it explains nutrition and excercise very well, NO MORE EXCUSES.

https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

[spuitkaas]

I totally agree with you. When people come with 'why are all models so skinny? Why aren't models the same size as Ashley Graham?'. I am all in for motivating obese people to get thinner and even in a postive way. I think obese people don't have to be ugly, but they could look better if they lost weight.
I don't think you should insult them to the bone. That won't motivate anyone, but making it the standard to be obese is not helping either. If people like Ashley Graham are the beauty ideal then why would you even loose weight then?

[Josht13]

I think shame can be a powerful motivator if there was no shameful stigma for being obese no one would have a need to lose weight, shame is good when people need a good shaming and if you can't control your own appetite you deserve to be called out.

[spuitkaas]

Till a certain extent. Like I said, it shouldn't become the beauty ideal and making it normal to be overweight, but you shouldn't bully or insult them either. They just get depressed from it. Maybe damaged and even suicide. Nobody deserves to get bullied just because of their appearance. Positive criticism and encouragement if they do something healthy or lost weight works really good.

[ProjectBaby1K]

I've pushed what you said on this post countless of times on here and every time I met opposition for stating what is medically true and statistically supported.

Even on the question you linked, it got countless of dislikes and OP snitched to get my comment removed for telling her: Not to let the basement dwelling loser who chase fatasses, since that's all they can get, lie to her. Obesity IS ugly. Those were my exact words 😂

[Anonymous]

I've written my fair share of these, and I think with time you'll eventually come to the following conclusions:

1. Obesity is a personal problem. You can bark all you want at someone who is obese, tell them of the dangers to their health, tell them they are ugly if you're an a-hole about it, and light up all the reasons they themselves know they have a problem, but unless they want to do something about it, it's not going to happen.

2. If you know beauty is subjective, then know that some people actually do find people of all shapes and sizes attractive. Not everyone is just humoring them, and you can't tell someone what they should think and feel about someone else. All of these are standards of beauties that are subjective to the whims of the person stating that A-D are attractive but E-H are not.

3. There has to be a captain obvious moment for you in all this, because obese people know they are obese. The world lets them know practically every single day. It's like pointing to a black person and saying, you're black, did you know you were black. Well, duh. They have a mirror. So what of it? It's their life. Stating facts and figures and obvious things for them is not going to alter the universe in your favor where everyone suddenly hits the treadmill and eats a clean diet.

4. If weight loss were so simple, we'd all be fit human beings right. There are plenty of things people should do, ought to do, know is right for them, and they still don't do it. Tell the drug addict, it's simple, just throw away the needle... but is it? Food, drugs, alcohol--all can be addictive, all have mental components to them that keep the people steeped in their addictions. There is no one full proof set of steps to get off drugs as there is no one fool proof way that works for every obese person, to stop their nasty habits.

5. If you truly do want to be a positive force in helping those with obesity issues, get healthy, I can almost guarantee, no one is going to listen to you if you start out by insinuating that you think they and/or their situation are ugly to begin with. They hear that everyday, and it adds to their problems. It tends to be people who treat them like human beings capable of committing to change with a little or a lot of help, that tend to get them moving in the right direction.

[Josht13]

1. many people are just plain lazy I want to remind them it's not okay and hopefully get them off the couch, if they don't want to do that then they are a shameful person and I'll say as much.

2. I think a lot of people are humoring them in the real world I could ask 100 people at my college I guarantee none of them would say she was attractive. I'm just telling my opinion which is that you should think like this because... not you have to think about this because...
Fat is to any sane person something that hinders people and is disgusting if people have some weird fetish about it whatever but they are rare.

3. Lots of obese people are just lazy don't think about the health consequences and some retards even think it is healthy. I think with it being the epidemic it is we have to get tough on this shit hopefully make them feel like it isn't okay to be so obese cos in my opinion it isn't

[Josht13]

4. it's easy if you have some will power and strong motivation which most fat people lack they often try to go for crash diets wanting to get results now over patience, I go to the gym 6 times a week and eat healthy I love it, it's so easy and second nature many people just won't give up habits. EAT LESS CALORIES THAN YOU EXPEND YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT, DONE.

5.

[Josht13]

5. I don't care about positivity I'm very negative, I think shame can be a powerful motivator and there are many people who are just unwilling to change.

[lumos]

@Josht13 Shaming has been proven to be a very bad motivator as humans and animals in general respond more positively to positive reinforcement, as positive outcomes and encouragement is something we strive for. If you knew anything about basic human psychology you wouldn't say such a thing. Some people might respond well to insults and shaming but the majority of people don't, and if they respond at all, it usually swings to an extreme (such as getting very low self-esteem, developing eating disorders, becoming obsessed with calorie counting and weight loss/exercise, which is no more healthy than being obese, mentally and physically).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement

[Josht13]

@lumos I'm only saying the truth in my opinion.

[Opinion Owner]

How many obese people have you actually helped to lose all their weight with your negative attitude and thinking? None, I venture. Being obese is not the definition of insanity, as an obese person does not expect eating another hamburger will make them suddenly lose weight.

I get that this may frustrate you and you feel that obesity is wrong, and no one is denying the health consequences of obesity, but as the other commenter said, the majority of people will not respond to a take like this and decide because some guy said they were apparently, fat, ugly and insane, that oh, all of a sudden, they are going to change their life. It doesn't work or at least not for many. This indicates to me that you haven't actually dealt with or tried to understand the issues of the obese, nor are you invested in finding ways to encourage health other than to attempt to do so negatively.

[Josht13]

I'm not here to coach anyone, they should be able to do it themselves jogging is free and eating less is cheaper so do it now.

[Opinion Owner]

... but they aren't doing that, so that's not enough of a solution to say, just do it because I said so and you should no better. Clearly that's not working as there are still plenty of obese people out there. Just like I pointed out with those who abuse drugs. We are aware in this world obesity and drug abuse are bad for your health, but just stating those two facts, doesn't tend to change people. If they could just "help themselves," they would, but again, you don't really have a grasp of the psychological aspects of the disease that prevent people in addictive situations from seeing what we think should be quite obvious.

[Opinion Owner]

Also if you're not here to coach anyone, that what is the point in saying what is already obvious. Obese people are obese. They aren't healthy. Okay. What is the point other than to just repeat what everyone already knows.

[lumos]

@Josht13 you said that "shame" can be a powerful motivator, I simply wanted you to understand that it's not.

[Josht13]

I like sharing my opinion, I saw something I had strong disagreement with so I put my point forward.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

Shame is a powerful deterrant-- how can you say otherwise? 50 years ago, you'd be shamed for being fat, you'd be shamed for being on welfare..

In today's PC era, the shame is gone and what has happened to the percentage of people who are obese and who are exploiting welfare-- It has skyrocketed.

What makes you not hit other kids? What makes you share your toys?

You parents shamed you.

Don't be so naive. Shame is a powerful deterrent and it's effective is proven throughout all aspects of society.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

Your parents*
It's effectiveness*

[Opinion Owner]

@NotJustAnotherGuy Obesity hasn't grown leaps and bounds because there is, in your opinion, no one shaming anyone. There are so many different factors. We didn't have 27 different Mcdonald's in five block radius, we didn't have stores open 24/7, we didn't have schools who cut funding to health and fitness programs and gym was mandatory, most of the food was cooked in the home. Shame has nothing to do with that which is why you and so many have very little grasp of why people are so obese now. You think, oh simple solution, shame people or tell them to just stop eating. To be clear, I'm not saying don't talk about obesity, because that's not the solution either, I'm saying if your goal is truly to help the obese and overweight, treat people with some respect, and create programs that cater to the world we live in now that wasn't the same as 100 years ago. And once again, if SHAME worked so well, how many people has you shaming, actually gotten them to lose weight in the long term?

[Opinion Owner]

Oh, and what type of parents did you have, because my parents certainly did not teach me to share toys by shaming me. They taught most things by example or repetition much the way most kids shows teach concepts.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

I had the usual parents, who say "No", "That's wrong" and "Bad!" when you do something wrong. Negative reinforcement is unavoidable in parenting and it's a form of shaming.

Just think, why do you not steal, cheat and murder? It's because you were told its bad. It's not because you were told life is beautiful.

Being fat is bad. I'm not saying, go around degrading people into tears. Just don't accept the body shaming is bad narrative.

And food access is a moot point. We've always had easy access to food. NPR did a study showing we're consuming the same calories now as we did before the fast food era-- because fast food was only a replacement to high calorie foods of the poor like pasta.

An increase in sedentary jobs has a factor, as well. But more than anything, is the mindset of "bodyshaming" and the bullshit that fat can be beautiful.. when it can not. Beauty should be defined by healthiness. Any other definition is harmful to society. No one should be content with being fat.

[NotJustAnotherGuy]

Content and complacency is the problem. I'd sincerely suggest, if you're truly empathetic and care about people's health, to stop pushing the body shaming narrative. It's not healthy for society.

For another example, look at how shame and disgust for cigarettes deterred its use significantly down in the same era that obesity soared.

[vonasaurus]

treating a person with dignity and respect is not the same as condoning obesity. but is fat really the worst thing someone can be? what about shallow, vindictive, cruel?

this whole post is incredibly ignorant and presumptive. certain illnesses (depression, hypothyroidism, polycystic ovarian syndrome), injury, and medications can all cause weight gain and make losing it very difficult.

i'm curious though: do you feel the same way about anorexia, bulimia, and orthorexia (just a few examples) as you do about obesity? or is it only because *you* find anyone who's not a stick to be unattractive that you feel they are undeserving of dignity and respect.

are you an m. d. or an expert in the field? no? then leave people alone. having an illness, physical or otherwise, does not mean that someone is less deserving of (self) love.

whether through surgery, a strict diet, or exercise regimen, an obese person can change his or her body. i'd tell you to get some work done yourself, but an ugly personality can't be fixed.

[Josht13]

Why would I respect them I don't know them and based on their appearance they are selfish and can't control themselves. Being fat is a really bad thing to be, never said it was the worst though. No matter what the condition of your thyroid is you can lose weight still, it's calories in vs calories out. No one gets fat eating under under 800 cals a day or lower. While anorexia's are unhealthy, they probably have depression or another illness, lets be honest most fats are just that fat fucks.

[vonasaurus]

sigh. it's obvious how little you actually know about the human body and health in general. but i expected that kind of narcissism from a child talking out of his ass.

[Nicole9356]

Haha nice one Von

[Curious625]

I understand all your points and I agree that people should take action as this affects their health as well as the economy. A lot on tax payers moneys that is put aside for the NHS goes towards helping people with problems that were preventable, such as type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol etc. However, there are people with genuine conditions that make it extremely difficult for them to loose weight but very easy for them to gain it, like women with PCOS. That's why in think you have to be careful about the way come across as it's not an easy thing to deal with for most people. It's very tough and challenging, especially when you do try very hard but it's as though your own body is working against you. It's not just about self discipline there's a lot more factors that affect someone's weight. So as much as I agree with the points you made about it being a severe problem and it's best for people to lose weight. I think it's best not to generlise all overweight people as many of them have issue that they are struggling with be it physical like women with PCOS or mental like someone who's used food as a coping mechanism. Saying they just need self discipline is a bit of a slap in the face when the problem is a lot deeper and they're weight is simply a side affect, that they too are most likely unhappy with.

[Josht13]

people still can lose weight with PCOS, they choose not too, not everything is easy you have to do hard things get over it. Also only 1 in 10-15 women have PCOS, this bad excuse doesn't even work for most fats. I work out 6 times a week and eat clean calories, sometimes it feels hard every now and then you get cravings, nonetheless I keep on track. Self discipline is everything most fats don't have these bullshit excuses yet everyone says they do lol.

[Curious625]

It's 10 times harder for a woman with PCOS to loose weight compared to the average woman, butnit is very easy to gain it. It's not a bullshit excuse and being someone that doesn't live with that you don't really have the right to say that. 1 in 5 women have PCOS in UK, I agree that there has to be a level of self discipline but there are many factors that you haven't considered. Did you know each individual responds differently to food? So where certain foods or even a specific fruit could have a positive response in an individual, they can affect another in the complete opposite manner and cause them to gain weight. This includes foods that are perceived as healthy. So your diet may be working against you even if it's healthy because of the way the body interacts with the food.

[SpaceMapache]

I think you are already aware that obesity is a desease, a sickness that affects both the body and the mind, is a desease beautiful? Not really no, but as unattractive as it might be, it shouldn't be pointed out, not by people who are not helping anyways , would you shame a person with cancer whose body is deteriorating?
You might think that obesity is always a choice, but that's like saying that lung cancer is also a choice, my point is you speak in black and white on a subject that has a lot of shades of grey
You seem to think shame is a good motivator, but you are sadly mistaken, it really isn't, again would you shame someone with depression? If so, you might be too far gone
Do you really think obesity is cured by telling someone : "stop eating you fat f**k" ? If that was true I would guess, nutritionists, trainers etc will be out of a job soon
Let the people who help do the their work, and please, for your sake, stop acting like your helping and educating, when all you bring to the table in this discussion is ignorance, the dangerous ignorance at that, the one that causes 15 year old girls to be ashamed to leave their house and/or commit suicide

[Josht13]

the person with cancer can't help getting cancer, if they smoked a lot I'd be like well it's too late now you get what comes around. Obesity is a choice you choose to eat too much. Anecdotally where I am shame seems to work.

[BuchitaBuchys]

1. This has been said countless times. And the more you fight it, the more people will go against you.
2. Some people do genuinely find overweight people attractive. Even obese. You can't "argue" for them to change their minds to find them unattractive anymore than they can "argue" you into finding them attractive.
3. Obese people have every right to find themselves attractive. You can't control someone's thoughts.
4. I don'tknow about this "healthy is beautiful" campaign. Are you going to tell a bald (ing) little girl with cancer or alopecia that she isn't beautiful because she isn't "healthy"?
5. Giving big people basic respect isn't glorifying obesity.

[WhereIsMyMind]

What she said

[BuchitaBuchys]

@WhereIsMyMind thank you :)

[Josht13]

A balding little girl isn't beautiful (in terms of looks) people with deformities aren't beautiful either. There is nothing special about being beautiful it is purely looks.

[BuchitaBuchys]

Why are you so against fat people?

[Yoush1992]

Its easier said than done if you are thin. I dont perceive obese as pretty nor healthy and they should not be encouraged, thick is a different story, but beautiful is when you embrace yourself in whatever shape and size you are acknowledging that you have a problem but still feeling comfortable in your skin especially for those struggling with obesity and try plenty to lose the weight but its not happening. You never know what a person is going through and why they became obese.. everybodys got a story and for them to embrace their story and who they are that is more than beautiful

[Josht13]

I work out 6 times a week to stay in shape and I am eating over 3000 cal of quality stuff, it's easier to sit down and eat shit than do that. I think your dictionary is off beauty is: "pleasing the senses or mind aesthetically". Also I gotta know what you consider "thick" because lot's of people considered thick such as Ashley Graham are actually fat.

[lumos]

If I see one more take stating the obvious I swear to god. Let people live. Let people be body positive. Nobody is saying it's healthy. People are just saying that they're allowed to feel beautiful even if they don't conform to society's standards. And that's not something you should get your panties in a bunch over.

[Josht13]

You couldn't be mooooooooorrrrreeee wrong, Look up HAES, go on tumblr for a second furthermore I don't think they should feel beautiful for gorging themselves and fucking up health care. Also you should tell all obese people to lose weight they need to lose weight.

[lumos]

Sorry but you don't get to dictate other people's thoughts and feelings. So instead of being the thought police you might as well just chill out and let people think whatever they want about themselves?
People who are overweight/obese get this kind of shit thrown in their faces pretty much every day already so I really don't see the point in adding to that.

[Josht13]

they deserve it.

[lumos]

No, they don't.

[Idonthaveausername]

Regardless of your illness, being unhealthy is not beautiful. Health and vitality are beautiful. Healthy attributes are considered to be the most attractive

That map of the obesity rate in America is horrible (as in it's a great demonstration, but what it shows is horrible). Obesity is a serious problem whether people want to admit it or not. It doesn't really matter how you go about the subject or dealing with it, it's a serious problem

I agree that obesity is not beautiful. So is being underweight. I had an ad pop up on this page saying obesity and being underweight is on the rise worldwide. This means that being healthy is on the decline. With more understanding of what is and isn't healthy and having more resources to counteract it, it's shameful that the world is allowing itself to be so unhealthy

[FallOutBoy2001]

While I agree with some of your points (health, mainly) I disagree that it's as simple as not overeating.

I'm a compulsive emotional eater. I only weight about 120 lbs, and it's mainly muscle, because I swim 11+ hours a week and have a really fast metabolism. I'd guess I eat 4000-5000 calories per day (when I don't forget to eat, which happens once a week or so) and I eat more when I get stressed out. It's incredibly hard not to eat when I'm emotional, and I can imagine I'm not the only one.

The key, if you're like me, is to work out as much as you can manage, and eat healthy foods. You're not going to be able to go cold-turkey, but slowly transition to mostly healthy foods with the occasionally junky snack. You lose weight and you feel healthier, you occasionally indulge yourself in your favorite junk food, and still eat about the same.

[Josht13]

I should've added gorging plus laziness, I have no problem with those who work out one of my friends is a swimmer who sims 3 hours a day every day and I always see him eating, bacon sandwiches, sweets, crisps but is shredded, it's all about calories in calories out, I myself eat about 3000 calories a day currently gaining muscle anyway but I go to the gym 6 times a week and do cardio regularly.

[Grimmjow25]

To be honest I do believe that instead of trying to promote "fat-acceptance" and "plus-size beauty" (which only encourages unhealthy lifestyles) we should instead be encouraging fat people to lose weight. That is not to say that I support shaming fat people, but I do believe that these fat-acceptance and plus-size beauty campaigns do more harm than good.

When I was in Japan there was none of this plus-size beauty nonsense. The result? Japan is one of the fittest and healthiest countries in the world.

[AleDeEurope]

This is why in America (well, the Western world), we have such a big problem with obesity, because people would rather let these people die by telling them it's ok to be fat, instead of being honest and telling them to lose weight. Even doctors get called out on "fatshaming" for telling someone they're too fat.

People are like "awww you're so beautiful. You're rocking those curves! You go guuurl!!!"
Then the next day "She died? From obesity? Oh no... why didn't she lose weight?"

Fucking idiots. This body positivity movement is killing people. Ignorance is killing people. Narcissism is killing people.

[TripleAce]

Can we really blame the people?

when our diet consisted of 100% organic foods, the hunter and gatherers diet --> nuts, beans, meat, vegetables and fruits no one was obese or even overweight

1. today the food is almost all tainted. Everything minus a few items at the store is process with sugars and salts. Hormone injected
2. Bread is pretty much sugar
3. Milk from cows grass fed use to have CLA in it. Which reduced fat significantly. Guess what? Grain fed cows don't produce CLA anymore

4. Donuts, cereals, breads, cakes, cupcakes, pancakes, cookies, ice cream

5. All this bullshit we eat daily makes us fat. Combine that with genetic changes over time. Some people are doomed with they are even born

[Anonymous]

Obesity isn't beautiful but some women who struggle with their weight are still beautiful. I don't agree with promoting obesity or being too thin though. This entire idolizing unhealthy women thing needs to go. Being severely over or underweight is an issue and it shouldn't be promoted.

I think people on the internet freak out about weight issues a little too much though. They call women who are overweight by 10-20 lbs "fat" and they call women who are a little thin "anorexic". They start comparing the two and turn it into some ridiculous battle of skinny vs curvy. I mean seriously just be semi-close to a healthy weight for your height. Being a little over or a little under isn't the end of the world, just take care of yourself. Being healthy is always going to look the best, whether you're someone who is naturally thin or carries a little extra weight, just add some muscle and try to eat good for the most part.

[Anonymous]

I'm always torn when I read things like these, I get your point and I do agree that obesity is unhealthy but I've been on the receiving side of severe body shaming, it felt terrible and I got even larger because I stopped caring. I finally started losing weight when I let go of the hate and started loving myself, I treated myself better and got more motivated to be active. So yes, obesity is not beautiful but I doubt you're going to convince someone to lose weight by screaming at them for how unhealthy they are.
Oh, and the big thing that keeps pissing me off with a lot of weight talk on here is that a lot of girls that have a few small belly rolls or a bit flabby arms immediately get called fat or obese when they're obviously looking like they're in good health, maybe not in the post you included but on other ones. I don't want this kind of judgment to become even more common...

[SilentShadow]

Your points, in a nutshell, is that obesity is unhealthy and costly. How does that relate to beauty? Of course unhealthy people aren't beautiful, but so what? How does this myTake connect to beauty and what it means to be attractive? I agree with what you said, but the title does not suit what this myTake is about.

[Josht13]

the negatives make it not beautiful in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Obesity is a disease. Disease is not beautiful oviously. But being sick isn't something UGLY. And a person with disease is still beautiful. I think if we stop shaming obesity, they will accept they should lose their weight.
the woman in the picture is beautiful. But if she has some problem with her weight, she should lose some. That's all.

[Josht13]

a person with say a disease that disfigures their face would be ugly, It's not a pc thing to say but it's honest and being fat is basically disfiguring your body into a nasty mess that should be shamed, Your logic is backwards if we accept obesity as if it's normal and ok then people won't feel pressure to lose weight.

[Opinion Owner]

Obesity isn't normal. But we should stop shaming them. Don't you know a lot of people decide to lose weight from anothet diseases like eating disorders or taking a dangerous pills?

[LucasSchoubye]

Its not... but its the individuals problem and you are quite powerless to change other peoples perspective without being rejected or just plain mean which makes the problem pointless. at least in my oppinion.

Their body, the countries problem, their choice.

[Josht13]

fuck that it's their problem fatties need to be taxed for their health failings.

[LucasSchoubye]

What about victims of harsh childhood abusiveness? It can lead to severe depression (actual depression with a doctors permit not just teen girls special snowflake bullshit) others who have selfinflicted problems like alchohilism and the porpusely uneducated. Should they also pay tax? What if they dont have the money because of their disability? It would cause more crime and a intire "2. Class" population which could ascalde futher and in serious cases in history cause "social slavery" and even civil wars.

Its a risky thing too do dont ya think.

[Absolute_Revenge]

A fat tax in America... perfect. Since most people in America are fat anyway.

[Theresao]

I agree somewhat, obese people can be beautiful, but it's more the fact that it decreases lifespan and increases health problems.

[Josht13]

show me 1 beautiful obese person (you can't but I'll wait)

[Theresao]

Adele
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[Josht13]

absolutely disgusting those belly rolls almost made me throw up.

[JustCallMeLeon]

I certainly dont find obese people (guys or girls) pretty, sexy or whatever. However, if someone wants to look like that and feels happy about it, Im also happy for them. However it gets me worried. What I can't stand is watching obese couples shopping (or generally go out) and their kids are like them. Cmon. Its your body but dont condemn your kid to this nightmare.

[Ironlak282]

That's your opinion although i think due to evolution most people would find being fat or obese unattractive to ensure healthy offspring. A more objective statement would be Obesity is incredibly Unhealthy. Infact some people believe that what people find "cute" or "handsome" is actually an evaluation of ones health.