Virginity Testing is BS.

[1truekhaleesi]

Recently the rapper TI came under criticism for saying he goes with his doctor to her annual gynecologist visits to have her hymen checked to ensure she's still a virgin. Given the songs he sings, that's hypocritical. TI said that he has been doing this annually to his daughter since her 16th birthday. Due to HIPAA, he pressured her to sign a release of information paperwork by asking her if she had something to hide. This is also just plain ignorant and why we need better sexual education. Virginity testing is not real and is something you can't see.

The hymen is a thin, fleshy tissue found at the opening of the vagina. With virginity testing, if the hymen is interpreted to be “intact”, then the woman “passes” the virginity test and it is believed that she has never engaged in penis to vagina sex. If the hymen is interpreted to be “broken” or “torn”, where only the hymenal remnants are found, then the woman “fails” the test and it is believed that she has engaged in sexual relations with a man.

Rapper TI and his daughter, Deyjah

Many other things can cause the hymen to tear. Including sexual abuse, horseback riding, bycycling, inserting a tampon, gymnastics, inserting a speculum during a gynecological exam, among many other activities. Not only that but when a woman has sex, the hymen can simply stretch instead of tear. It's totally possible for the hymen to become completely ruptured or torn during sex. However, less than 50% of women bleed from sex.

Imposed virginity testing violates clauses from The World Medical Association’s International Code of Medical Ethics: “A Physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical service in full professional and moral independence, with compassion and respect for human dignity.”

Dr. Jennifer Gunter

Dr. Jennifer Gunter criticized TI and said, "50% of teens who have been sexually active with a penis have an intact hymen. The hymen also often breaks just with normal sexual activity. It IS NOT a reliable virginity indicator. (never mind the idea of your future male relatives leering at you)"

Sources:
[1]http://www.scarleteen.com/article/body/my_corona_the_anatomy_formerly_known_as_the_hymen_the_myths_that_surround_it
[2] http://www.figo.org/files/figo-corp/Ethical%20Issues%20-%20English.pdf
[3] Dr. Jennifer Gunter

[aicarg]

I know! I heard about it from friends at work as well as read about it all over on GAG as well.
She may be his daughter, she is her own person and is not his property. It's highly invasive and as you've mentioned goes against ethical rights, and come to say, a female can rupture her hymen in many diffrent ways than just sexual intercourse which you've also stated.

I really don't know what's more disturbing, TI thinking he's some entitled rapper aristocrat who's allowed to think in such a way, or TI a father who just has no trust and boundaries with his daughter 🤦🏻‍♀️

[1truekhaleesi]

Kind of disturbing that it's mostly females outraged by this. And while he's over here concerned with his daughter's sexual proclivities, he's out there cheating on his wife, regularly.

FOH

[Wharvey98]

Yeah it’s kinda disturbing to me as well, I really don’t understand how people are ok with this. This is clearly not a healthy relationship, no healthy father daughter relationship includes virginity testing. I mean seriously I thought we left that kind of shit behind in the 1600s.

[aicarg]

@1truekhaleesi @Wharvey98 I really don't think the ones that downvoted my views are capable of putting themselves in the shoes of young ladies like Deyjah. I don't mind them as I wouldn't care to associate myself with guys that feel have these oppressing views.

[BuckWild]

You got my up vote.

[sejla]

I think that her doctor could be in some big trouble over this. Yes a doctor can discuss things with a parent of the minor ok's it but I don't think this thing is part of the deal. I've heard of men from the Middle East asking for this test before a marriage. There is a whole business of providing medical surgery to revirgin women so they can get married.

Yeah the double standard if he sings about certain stuff in his music would be irritating.

[1truekhaleesi]

Revirgin someone? There's no un-ringing that bell

[sejla]

something to do with transferring some tissue down there.

[sejla]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenorrhaphy

[admles]

This is some next-level, creepy, intrusive shit.

It also shows he has ZERO knowledge about the hymen - it can be broken in many ways - and that he's living in the dark ages.

This is so wrong on so many levels.

Plus, his daughter is 18, she's an adult, she should not be tolerating this violation.

Disgusting, and anyone who supports him is also disgusting.

[roland77]

Clearly said, hymen gone or given = no indicator! Only if she had made love with someone else (masturbating doesn't remove virginity then, but please spare the hymen for a gentle boyfriend/husband), only then her virginity is removed.

[1truekhaleesi]

@roland77 you cannot be more wrong.

[roland77]

@1truekhaleesi why that? the #hymen has nothing to do with being #virgin.

To quote the #Wikipedia :
"Virginity is the state of a person who has never engaged in sexual intercourse.[1][2] There are cultural and religious traditions that place special value and significance on this state, predominantly towards unmarried females, associated with notions of personal purity, honor and worth."

[1truekhaleesi]

@roland77 well good thing I'm Atheist. Anyone can edit Wikipedia without using sources so there's a reason I didn't quote Wikipedia at all.

[roland77]

@1truekhaleesi why do you link that with #religion/#atheism? That has #IMO nothing to do with each other. Sure there are religions, but why should I care? I'm #atheist, too.

[jss123]

TI is one sick man. Won't stop people listening to his music though. Chris Brown still has a career after what he did to Rihanna... I've never understood that.

[1truekhaleesi]

I stopped listening to Chris Brown when I found out about that and I will never understand how he has a career. Same with R. Kelly. R. Kelly's trial is in 2020 but for a long while, people didn't care.

[BrittBratt2416]

Chris brown music hasn't been poppin like it use to be back in the day, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing him on the radio now a days.. it's like a song here or there but mostly crickets. So yeah.. he mostly destroyed his career that and other musicians have come up and outshined him

[Massageman]

Using the condition of the hymen as a test for virginity certainly in inconclusive, at best. As you point out, any situation, stress, movement that puts a significant strain on the pelvis/hip region can stretch or rip the membrane, so it just isn't a good predictor of sexual activity (or lack thereof)..

[Wharvey98]

Ah yes, the cheating father is paranoid about his daughters potential sex life. Seems like someone’s projecting.

[Goodwifie]

He also gloated about his son losing his virginity at the age of 14.

[sejla]

@Goodwifie that is disgusting.

[BuckWild]

@Goodwifie Seriously? Holy balls! Please excuse me while I purge my MP3 collection of any of his shit.

[sejla]

@BuckWild Joking or not? I have had to stop listening to a Korean singer because he is being sentenced to sex crimes. He was the only one involved. Lots of people and they shared it on a Kakao group chat. Years ago back the 80s I had to drop a singer after he got high at a party at his house and burned women with cigarettes.

[BuckWild]

No joke. I stopped listening to B. o. B. because he believes the freaking Earth is flat. I just can't support jackassery of that magnitude.

[Daniela1982]

The hymen wears away on it's own without sex. If it didn't the girl would not be able to pass menstrual blood. Some girls break their own hymens to facilitate their period. In fact a virgin can have a hymen that looks broken but it gets that way just by nature, time, and cleaning yourself. So as you say, testing for virginity is a load of you know what.

[VeggiePizzaDude]

Thanks for this well written piece. Huge thumbs up!! Unfortunately, there is a much more accurate way to virgin test than what was described. Any Spanish bar owner can tell you that virgins are 100 percent allergic to ground up clamshells. Grind up a few shells, dillute in a solution, inject and wait for a reaction. If TI wasn't such a boomer, then he would be doing this to his whole family. Cheers!

[bamesjond0069]

I always say men like TI... rappers pimps etc are some of the most traditional mindset men you will find. They just behave how they do because they live in a world of hos so they have to be hard. Like you can't get anywhere preaching virginity surrounded by prostitutes. Its the other side to what most people consider traditional.

[Lemia]

Her hymen could be broken by something other sex, I'm not sure can your hymen break from fingering?

[1truekhaleesi]

Yes.

[lonewolf18]

I broke my hymen when i was 15 because i was fingering myself with a toothbrush trying mimic porn lol I didn’t even have a period yet so I thought that’s what had happened. Now I’m 20 and I realized I broke my Hymen lol so i guess i took my own virginity

[Lemia]

@LoneWolf18 Thats must of hurt like crazy.

[Robertcw]

@lonewolf18 what’s crazy is that he apparently doesn’t even want to allow his daughter to even try fingering herself. So it’s not just sex, he’s locking it down so that nothing at all period is going inside her vagina.

[BuckWild]

@lonewolf18 And that makes you, by definition, damaged goods. For shame!

[BrittBratt2416]

He went to far, i understand he wants to protect his daughter but getting her hymen checked is basically saying he thinks his daughter his hoeing around but he won't say anything to his sons that are sleeping around with another man's daughter. He just sits back and laugh... just full on hypocrisy. And he embarrassed his own daughter in the process, there are some things that you don't need to share with the whole world.

[BrittBratt2416]

And if i was her i would say hell no, I would told ill get my hymen checked when you get your dicks checked first.

[Robertcw]

I find tjis hard to believe. Sure if something besides a penis goes inside then it can break.

But something has got to go inside to break it. And that’s the point. That guy obviously doesn’t want anything going anywhere near that thing.

Basically he’s locking it down, penis or not.

[Robertcw]

This doesn’t mean I agree or disagree.

[Robertcw]

*With TI.

[1truekhaleesi]

Okay dude you're clearly smarter than a gynecologist who specializes in this. You have completely changed my mind about this.

[roland77]

Riding a bicycle or doing sport activity can break hymen, inserting finger/penis/dildo/vibrator/whatever into a pussy does not necessarily break it.

[FlutteringFeelings]

For a guy who lived his life and ruined multiple women lives is walking around with this mentality and preventing his daughter from living her life. He should know a woman is no longer a Virgin once she lays with a male and he inserts his penis into her. A test can tell whether a female is sexually active or not but he took this whole thing to the next level, especially as her Father.

[GhostMochi]

This mytake taught me more about the vagina than sex education did in middle school or high school. 😂
Great mytake btw! :)

[1truekhaleesi]

Thanks! I plan on putting up more sex education takes.

[luvstoned4him]

I dont like how he aired his daughters business on social media

[1truekhaleesi]

I think that's just as bad as the test.

[luvstoned4him]

yes ...

[Some_Goof]

This whole thing seems so idiotic and still there are people defending it and think there's nothing wrong with it lol. As you said, that's not how hymen or vagina works... Smh

[Alpha09]

How would you feel about a father in his 18 year olds sons sexual life?

[1truekhaleesi]

Equally disgusted. Still abusive regardless of gender. No parent owns their child.

[Alpha09]

Shoot I actually meant to put this on another commenters post. He thinks T. I. has the right to do it.

[1truekhaleesi]

I saw that. I blocked one of them. I think I heard somewhere that his son has sexually active since he was 14. It disgusts me that its mostly women that are disgusted by this.

[Alpha09]

Yeah he's just one of those backwards "I can cheat and sleep with as many people as I want, but god forbid my daughter grow up and do normal adult things like have sex."

[Waffles731]

Oh, so that's why I keep hearing TI referenced lately.

That's just fucked up

[Lliam]

Really good MyTake, 1truekhaleesi. All the points you made are true and I agree with you 100%. I'll add that TI is a dog shit excuse for a human being and a terrible parent.

[BuckWild]

I think that's completely justified and normal...

... is probably what I would think if I lived in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan!

[Mädchen]

So He doesn't even allow her to masturbate. As If He didn't wank it as soon as He what Masturbation was

[DiegoO]

The amount of ignorance related to virginity amaze me. SEX IS NOT ONLY VAGINAL SEX, there is oral and anal sex, that's why condoms packages have 3 condoms (one for each type of sex).

That rapper lost his time, a lot of time.

[sejla]

yes that is true and sometimes it might lead to more risky behavior in the long run. If your child whether a minor or a young adult can't have open discussions with a parent when they need to it can have real consequences for their child when they really need help and understanding.

[DiegoO]

@sejla Yeah, parents should know to respond to their child's questions. It can be related to sex or any other question.

A parent who only knows to say "I don't know" or who keep quiet, will have a son/daughter that will look for answers anywhere else, less at home.

[sejla]

My child a good person but there were times she told me stuff that made my head want to explode. But she has my guilt so I would ask her 3 times something and then she'd tell me.

My mom was pretty conservative. but she talked to us about sex ed stuff. She had been a public health nurse in the 50s and she had to track people down to get treated for STDs when they ended up on a list of partner's of one of their patients at the health department. She told me she ended up in some pretty strange places.

[BuckWild]

My ex-wife and I are completely open and transparent when it comes to educating our daughters about human sexuality. They are 11 and 13. They know that sex is not a bad or abnormal thing. Sex is not a taboo subject at all. My thirteen-year-old comes to me with all of her questions. And she knows that she can do this without ever feeling strange or embarrassed or that she might get in trouble. The girls know that abstinence is not a legitimate form of birth control. We humans are programmed to have sex. It is important to be realistic and to make sure you give them the best start in life and that's to make sure that there are no early pregnancies in that they are disease-free.

[KungfuCyborg]

How is virginity testing even a thing? Is this the fucking 1800s again why is this tolerated for even a fraction of a second?

[Bellaboo01]

I think it's odd and intrusive I'd hate if my dad did this it's an invasion of privacy. Especially now she's 1i it's quite frankly up to her what she does.