Bollocks. DO get vaccinated so EVERYONE can go outside and enjoy a regular life again.
1. A-Z: Had it, no problems. 2. Wasn't she told not to exercise for three days after the vaccination? 3. Of course the people you'll hear from on social networks, or in the family, are the ones who had problems, not the ones who didn't notice anything. 4. What do you think her response to the actual virus would have been?
FWIW, I think young women should try to get one of the mRNA vaccines in preference to the A-Z or J&J ones, unless it delays their innoculation by more than a week or two. That said, your personal chance of dying from the vaccine is about the same as taking a coin, flipping it 20 times and getting the same side every time, compared with 12 times if you get the virus (and the virus is more likely to have other negative heath consequences).
@Stephen_77 Already had both, weeks ago, like a billion other people. You're making dumb comments that don't match reality on a month-old question.
If it was intended to reduce populations, don't you think "they" would be sending vaccinations outside their countries more than inside? Or is it a devious plot of poor central African nations to take over the world?
@Stephen_77 Along with a billion other people. In the mean time hundreds of thousands of people have died of the virus (the vast majority were not fully vaccinated).
The world just passed 4 million deaths, 700,000 more than when I had my first jab. Just go and get one.
@Stephen_77 I could be dumb enough to think that dozens of countries all over the world would get together to conspire to make up fake statistics, and you're the one who knows better.
You are aware that if somebody tests positive for covid and then dies from a heart attack or gets hit by a truck, they put on the death certificate "died of covid 19." I assumed you was aware of that? Clearly not.
@Stephen_77 I'm sure you're aware that the excess number of people dying over the last year (compared with the previous 5 years) tracks extremely closely the number of covid-19 death totals. Why did all those people decide to up and die this year, all of a sudden, if it's not from the disease? Boredom?
@Stephen_77 I'm aware of all of the bogus crap people like you put out, I've been seeing it all year. Those cases might account for a percent or two, but there's probably a similar amount of people who weren't counted because they weren't tested. You still didn't explain why 600,000 more Americans died over the last year or so compared with the same periods over the preceding 5 years. (And it's the same all over the world.)
No it's not the same all over the world. You're just making shit up. People who test positive for covid and then die of a heart attack or get hit by a truck get labelled "died of covid 19" even if they didn't have any symptoms. Go figure, smart ass.
@Stephen_77 So 600,000 Americans got hit by trucks while infected over the last year, or what? What proportion of people whose deaths were recorded as covid-19 related didn't die of it, do you think?
@Stephen_77 Fewer than 200,000 Americans die from every kind of "unintentional injury" in a year. "The age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% in 2020", for no reason, according to you. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
You are aware that if somebody tests positive for the virus but then dies of a heart attack or car crash still get labelled "died of covid 19" when they didn't? If this was a real pandemic why would they have to lie about the death rates? Go figure.
@Stephen_77 Nobody's lying, you idiot. For every case like that, there's a "heart attack" where the person wasn't tested. Every country around the world has had a lot more people die last year than in any of the previous 5 (or more) years. It wasn't of boredom.
Yes, they're probably dying of suicide and cancer patients having their treatments delayed. If somebody tests positive for the virus and dies within 28 days of anything else, they get labelled "died of covid 19" when they didn't. Why do they have to lie about the death rates? Clearly it's a scam.
the fact people are pressuring others for this "vaccine" is concerning as fucking hell, second of all, it hasn't been tested enough and people are flocking to get it like good little sheep.. your mother got sick and that raises more red flags
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The people who will understand you are already refusing the vaccine.
The people you’re trying to reach, you could show them story after story of people dropping dead shortly after the vaccine, of which there are plenty but people are pretending they died of natural causes (one of them I read about supposedly died of natural causes at 40 years old) they’ll still say that they died for other reasons.
It’s Darwinism in action. They’re all fucking idiots.
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If you think they’re being counted on graphs and in official statistics you’re a moron. Like I just said, I saw one woman, a nurse, 40 years old, posted her virtue signalling posts on social media about how she got vaccinated, a few days later she died of “natural causes”. How many 40 year olds do you know who’ve died of natural causes? Old age? People are really stupid enough not to see that as suspicious. It’s insane.
@rebeliouse, the VAERS site admits that almost 4000 people in the U. S. have died from the vax, and there have been thousands of horrific reactions from Kawasaki disease to miscarriages to permanent severe neurological damage. It is also admitted that only about 10% of death and bad reactions get reported to VAERS.
When 50 people died from the swine flu vaccination, it was immediately pulled from the market. So how can a new, experimental gene therapy brew (not a vaccine) kill between 4000 and 40,000 Americans within 4 months and still be on the market? And how can the manufacturers bear no liability for injuries?
There are always going to be a percentage of people that have bad reactions to vaccines. I'm sad to hear it, but here's the deal. Based on the limited testing information that was available, Pfizer or Moderna were far better choices. What made her be accepting to Astra Zeneca?
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It was the only vaccine that was available at that point (not every country has choices available!)
At the very least, it’s too soon for humans to try it.. The Covid flu is 99.7% survivable! Why take a chance? Too many people have become very sick or died from it. You’re letting yourself be tested as a rat , Ginny pig or monkey... I’m an MD... Stay away from it..
@Levin Sheeple that refuse to even listen to another opinion. The Borg.. The collective must be served. The propaganda was so good , that they were cable to convince so many to take a Lethal Injection.
Looking at the messages in the media, it seems we're being primed for the next lockdown with this alleged Indian variant. If that happens there is no release from the death-grip. All independent businesses are done for, total financial and systemic collapse is possible, and the autumn and winter months are naturally respiratory and well, death season anyway!
The sad fact is, that even though we could see what's going to happen months ago, with all the signals in the media and precedence, the public will still go along with it in a dumbfounded and compliant way. In the next few months we will find out whether we're going to be a completely totalitarian state. Or whether I am just a conspiratorial nut. Pray for me!
I am finishing my biomedical degree and find the science behind the mRNA vaccine interesting and holding promise, but yeah no one knows how people will react decades down the line. The process is pretty straightforward. It behaves like a virus in your body, but the script was cut to only produce the viral spike protein. However, this technology is gene editing from a intellectual pursuit intriguing, but ethically and health wise questionable. I have some friends that are teachers who were compelled to take it. I recommended Pfizer and they are doing fine. Long term gene editing will cause mutations, one time shot shouldn't be a concern, but decades are. I'm personally waiting for the Valneva vaccine if my blood test is negative for antibodies (which I doubt). Valneva used the classical methodology used for decades. They are only pushing for vaccine mandates so they can claim it got rid of the virus, but just like the mask the data is highly suspect. Also some of the mutations don't have the spike protein making full virus immunity superior which Valneva and those recovered have.
@Levin Itvwill modify DNA.. There’s no telling what’s truly in the message and no telling what the effect of changing your DNA will have on all DNA. It will change the Human Gnome for ever !
@Levin Long term that is a serious question. In principle this vaccine acts like a virus by hijacking your cells to produce viral spike proteins. Normally a virus kills the host cell and enough cellular death you are sick. In controlled settings and regulated cellular death this shouldn't be anymore deadly than getting a cold, but if the cells that were hijacked do not die, you could end up with propagating altered cells. This is a low chance at a few shots, but decades of use would increase the likelihood of such an event. This technology was approved so that the real interesting things could be accomplished, gene editing. In process they cut short the script from the virus, but in effect they have forced the cells to produce non human compounds, a virus does this already, but it has opened the gate for other modifications.
@Levin Mainly I am saying if you aren't high risk it will be opportune to wait for a deactivated Virus Vaccine such as Valneva's. One mRNA vaccine isn't likely to be deadly, but decades of use is the question on everyone's minds. Personally the cold like symptoms of Sars-2 isn't worth it for me and I likely still have antibodies for it. But if the mandating vaccination psychosis increases I'd hold off for the classical version like Valneva's.
@goaded A little late to the party, but you must also realize Europe has favored the Valneva vaccine. I am impartial to it if it gets to the states. Besides why are you attacking JamieLoves? Do you have proof he is not an MD?
@Gravit1 Yes, he thinks lots of people have died of the vaccine. In the real world, since the end of January, 140,000 Americans have died of the virus.
Even assuming the 4,000 number of people who died after getting a vaccination is correct, an MD would know to subtract the number of (mostly older) people who would be expected to pop their clogs within a couple of weeks of any given day. As of today, over 160 million Americans have had at least one shot - 4,000 is 0.0025% of them. In any given week, approximately 0.015% of the American population dies.
@goaded There's also 750000 adverse incidents reported in the UK. And like we say, by the government's own admission, only 10% are reported.
There's been some NHS whistleblowers recently saying their surgeries are getting overwhelmed with vaccine injuries, accounting for up to half of patients. In the same report the person said there had been numerous deaths and injuries, and that these weren't being reported by doctors to the yellow card system, bar one death which the family insisted that was reported.
Anyway, I kind of think you're wasting your breath now. Everybody has made their choice and you're not going to convince anyone to change their mind. The next few months will show us whether we will indeed fall off a cliff now as we suspected. It's not a conspiracy when every stage that we predicted is being checked off. Now there are rumblings that there will no release date on the 21st of June, or whenever it was supposed to be, because of the alleged Indian variant. So basically, as we suggested, this will not stop now, will go on for ever. If the government has no intent on releasing it's grip after a year and a half of false promises, then there's no reason to believe it will again, ever. At least until they have their digital system and passport in place. ie total totalitarian control.
They've already started the process of turning on the unvaccinated.
@Levin I really wish you'd provide links to back up your claims, it's too much of a pain to look up things like "750000 adverse incidents reported in the UK". Which, by the way, would be from 37,000,000 vaccinations, and the ones that aren't reported will obviously be the ones that aren't life-threatening (I didn't report my sore arm, for example).
"It's not a conspiracy when every stage that we predicted is being checked off. Now there are rumblings that there will no release date on the 21st of June, or whenever it was supposed to be, because of the alleged Indian variant. So basically, as we suggested, this will not stop now, will go on for ever." Of course it won't go on forever, and it's not an "alleged" Indian variant. Nobody can make a reasonable prediction more than a couple of weeks in advance because things change that quickly. Of course there's a difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people; that's been known for centuries, and children have been kept out of school for not having various vaccinations for ages.
I don't even have to click on a link called "dailyexpose" to know it's BS.
@Levin I clicked on it anyway, and it's even worse than I expected. I have the choice to wear clothes or not, I don't expect I'll be let in to many restaurants if I choose not to.
This was interesting, thanks for posting. Especially since your mother is a nurse. I'd like to know more technical details from her, and how long the feelings persist. You should do an update at some point.
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My mother isn't a nurse, but she works in the hospital. I'll do an update for sure :)
I hope that your mother gets her life back soon. I had the moderna with a little pain at the injection site.
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Glad to hear everything went well for you! :) I also hope that my mother will soon be "normal" again, the head aches are causing a lot of distress for her.
Well the experience she just described for one isn’t exactly backed by a multi billion dollar Corp that was paid $$$ to post it. This is more a social discussion forum rather than a antisocializing ad company. The other point would be that although she shared a bad experience with it she also said don’t underestimate vaccines as well. Seems erroneous to proclaim both sides of the fence.
@kmg9150 Well the blood clots also aren't backed by companies. Yet it's haltered the roll out. I am fairly sure if people were reporting constant headaches the rollouts would stop.
Also I think we now many people who have had the vaccine who are 100% fine after the day or 2 aches.
What I meant when I wrote "don't trust social media" was that you shouldn't trust people deliberately spreading misinformation about the vaccine. G@G isn't social media in my opinion, it's more like a forum - it's not as quick as Twitter (retweets are SO easy), not as monetized as YouTube and Instagram (no clue whether people here were paid to write takes but I don't think so) and doesn't have as many members as Facebook, for example. G@G is, in comparison, a rather small, tight-knit community. I don't desccribe it as social media.
Still, you shouldn't think that just because my mother had a negative experience with the vaccine that the vaccine is bad for EVERYONE. There are certainly circumstances where the vaccine is very helpful. Also, not everyone has a negative reaction to the Covid vaccine or to vaccines in general, like @kmg9150 already pointed out.
Depression and temporary sickness can happen naturally as well. How can you be so sure it was the result of a vaccine? Maybe it occurred around the same time but that is sufficient to say the vaccine caused it.
I would prob say its the constant headaches thats causing the depression but she needs to go get checked out for the headaches could be blood clot could be something completely diff could be placeebo who knows
I agree that these things can happen naturally, but my mother never had a headache for more than a few days at a time in all of her life. This is just HER experience, whether the vaccine and the headache/mental health issues are related can't be fully determined, but my mother feels very strongly about making sure people around her are aware of the possible side effects of the vaccine. It's just ONE story of many. I know people who got the vaccine and handled it very well too, no side effects at all other than some minor dizziness.
I'm very sorry for your mother. It is worth remembering that we get vaccines entirely for our own benefit. It is mostly. to protect our loved ones from diseases I might get that could kill them It ain't about me. By the way I have had every vaccine going on a regular basis for all of my life. Problems: ZERO. Recovery time required: NONE, not a microsecond EVER.
Thankfully I already got Covid so I don't need the vaccine
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Bollocks. DO get vaccinated so EVERYONE can go outside and enjoy a regular life again.
1. A-Z: Had it, no problems.
2. Wasn't she told not to exercise for three days after the vaccination?
3. Of course the people you'll hear from on social networks, or in the family, are the ones who had problems, not the ones who didn't notice anything.
4. What do you think her response to the actual virus would have been?
FWIW, I think young women should try to get one of the mRNA vaccines in preference to the A-Z or J&J ones, unless it delays their innoculation by more than a week or two. That said, your personal chance of dying from the vaccine is about the same as taking a coin, flipping it 20 times and getting the same side every time, compared with 12 times if you get the virus (and the virus is more likely to have other negative heath consequences).
My mother couldn't exercise for 2 weeks after the vaccine because she felt so weak and bad, so she didn't break that rule lol.
The vaccine is about reducing population. It has nothing to do with health and they have no intention of lifting restrictions long term.
@Stephen_77 Oh, do go away.
Don't forget your death jab.
@Stephen_77 Already had both, weeks ago, like a billion other people. You're making dumb comments that don't match reality on a month-old question.
If it was intended to reduce populations, don't you think "they" would be sending vaccinations outside their countries more than inside? Or is it a devious plot of poor central African nations to take over the world?
You've already had both? Tick tock tick tock.
@Stephen_77 Along with a billion other people. In the mean time hundreds of thousands of people have died of the virus (the vast majority were not fully vaccinated).
The world just passed 4 million deaths, 700,000 more than when I had my first jab. Just go and get one.
Except those are fake statistics. How dumb can you be?
@Stephen_77 I could be dumb enough to think that dozens of countries all over the world would get together to conspire to make up fake statistics, and you're the one who knows better.
You are aware that if somebody tests positive for covid and then dies from a heart attack or gets hit by a truck, they put on the death certificate "died of covid 19." I assumed you was aware of that? Clearly not.
@Stephen_77 I'm sure you're aware that the excess number of people dying over the last year (compared with the previous 5 years) tracks extremely closely the number of covid-19 death totals. Why did all those people decide to up and die this year, all of a sudden, if it's not from the disease? Boredom?
Did you not read my last comment? Do you want me to explain it again because I don't think you paid any attention.
@Stephen_77 I'm aware of all of the bogus crap people like you put out, I've been seeing it all year. Those cases might account for a percent or two, but there's probably a similar amount of people who weren't counted because they weren't tested. You still didn't explain why 600,000 more Americans died over the last year or so compared with the same periods over the preceding 5 years. (And it's the same all over the world.)
No it's not the same all over the world. You're just making shit up. People who test positive for covid and then die of a heart attack or get hit by a truck get labelled "died of covid 19" even if they didn't have any symptoms. Go figure, smart ass.
@Stephen_77 So 600,000 Americans got hit by trucks while infected over the last year, or what? What proportion of people whose deaths were recorded as covid-19 related didn't die of it, do you think?
I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball. But I would say a huge number for sure.
@Stephen_77 Fewer than 200,000 Americans die from every kind of "unintentional injury" in a year. "The age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% in 2020", for no reason, according to you.
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
You are aware that if somebody tests positive for the virus but then dies of a heart attack or car crash still get labelled "died of covid 19" when they didn't? If this was a real pandemic why would they have to lie about the death rates? Go figure.
@Stephen_77 Nobody's lying, you idiot. For every case like that, there's a "heart attack" where the person wasn't tested. Every country around the world has had a lot more people die last year than in any of the previous 5 (or more) years. It wasn't of boredom.
Yes, they're probably dying of suicide and cancer patients having their treatments delayed. If somebody tests positive for the virus and dies within 28 days of anything else, they get labelled "died of covid 19" when they didn't. Why do they have to lie about the death rates? Clearly it's a scam.
I had the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine with zero side effects.
Glad to hear about your positive experience
the fact people are pressuring others for this "vaccine" is concerning as fucking hell, second of all, it hasn't been tested enough and people are flocking to get it like good little sheep.. your mother got sick and that raises more red flags
The people who will understand you are already refusing the vaccine.
The people you’re trying to reach, you could show them story after story of people dropping dead shortly after the vaccine, of which there are plenty but people are pretending they died of natural causes (one of them I read about supposedly died of natural causes at 40 years old) they’ll still say that they died for other reasons.
It’s Darwinism in action. They’re all fucking idiots.
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If you think they’re being counted on graphs and in official statistics you’re a moron. Like I just said, I saw one woman, a nurse, 40 years old, posted her virtue signalling posts on social media about how she got vaccinated, a few days later she died of “natural causes”. How many 40 year olds do you know who’ve died of natural causes? Old age? People are really stupid enough not to see that as suspicious. It’s insane.
@rebeliouse, the VAERS site admits that almost 4000 people in the U. S. have died from the vax, and there have been thousands of horrific reactions from Kawasaki disease to miscarriages to permanent severe neurological damage. It is also admitted that only about 10% of death and bad reactions get reported to VAERS.
When 50 people died from the swine flu vaccination, it was immediately pulled from the market. So how can a new, experimental gene therapy brew (not a vaccine) kill between 4000 and 40,000 Americans within 4 months and still be on the market? And how can the manufacturers bear no liability for injuries?
@Lliam do u have link to prove your claim of 4000 - 40000
There are always going to be a percentage of people that have bad reactions to vaccines. I'm sad to hear it, but here's the deal. Based on the limited testing information that was available, Pfizer or Moderna were far better choices. What made her be accepting to Astra Zeneca?
It was the only vaccine that was available at that point (not every country has choices available!)
That was unfortunate.
Agreed.
Meanwhile, my instructor, age 68, gets two shots of AZ and doesn't even get a fever. The reactions to AZ seem to vary from wall to wall.
That's certainly true
At the very least, it’s too soon for humans to try it.. The Covid flu is 99.7% survivable!
Why take a chance? Too many people have become very sick or died from it.
You’re letting yourself be tested as a rat , Ginny pig or monkey...
I’m an MD... Stay away from it..
I tried to tell my sister and her husband about this yesterday. Didn't go so well...
I'm guessing People are embroiled in the narrative, and anything that disturbs it is going to be personally attacked.
@Levin
Sheeple that refuse to even listen to another opinion. The Borg.. The collective must be served.
The propaganda was so good , that they were cable to convince so many to take a Lethal Injection.
Looking at the messages in the media, it seems we're being primed for the next lockdown with this alleged Indian variant. If that happens there is no release from the death-grip. All independent businesses are done for, total financial and systemic collapse is possible, and the autumn and winter months are naturally respiratory and well, death season anyway!
The sad fact is, that even though we could see what's going to happen months ago, with all the signals in the media and precedence, the public will still go along with it in a dumbfounded and compliant way. In the next few months we will find out whether we're going to be a completely totalitarian state. Or whether I am just a conspiratorial nut. Pray for me!
dailyexpose.co.uk/.../
@Levin
1984 ... mate !
There are many of us that won’t tolerate this and we will rid the world of the Elites !
I am finishing my biomedical degree and find the science behind the mRNA vaccine interesting and holding promise, but yeah no one knows how people will react decades down the line. The process is pretty straightforward. It behaves like a virus in your body, but the script was cut to only produce the viral spike protein. However, this technology is gene editing from a intellectual pursuit intriguing, but ethically and health wise questionable. I have some friends that are teachers who were compelled to take it. I recommended Pfizer and they are doing fine. Long term gene editing will cause mutations, one time shot shouldn't be a concern, but decades are. I'm personally waiting for the Valneva vaccine if my blood test is negative for antibodies (which I doubt). Valneva used the classical methodology used for decades. They are only pushing for vaccine mandates so they can claim it got rid of the virus, but just like the mask the data is highly suspect. Also some of the mutations don't have the spike protein making full virus immunity superior which Valneva and those recovered have.
@Gravit1 do you think these shots will modify a person's dna? Make them gmo?
@Levin
Itvwill modify DNA..
There’s no telling what’s truly in the message and no telling what the effect of changing your DNA will have on all DNA.
It will change the Human Gnome for ever !
@Levin Long term that is a serious question. In principle this vaccine acts like a virus by hijacking your cells to produce viral spike proteins. Normally a virus kills the host cell and enough cellular death you are sick. In controlled settings and regulated cellular death this shouldn't be anymore deadly than getting a cold, but if the cells that were hijacked do not die, you could end up with propagating altered cells. This is a low chance at a few shots, but decades of use would increase the likelihood of such an event. This technology was approved so that the real interesting things could be accomplished, gene editing. In process they cut short the script from the virus, but in effect they have forced the cells to produce non human compounds, a virus does this already, but it has opened the gate for other modifications.
@Levin Mainly I am saying if you aren't high risk it will be opportune to wait for a deactivated Virus Vaccine such as Valneva's. One mRNA vaccine isn't likely to be deadly, but decades of use is the question on everyone's minds. Personally the cold like symptoms of Sars-2 isn't worth it for me and I likely still have antibodies for it. But if the mandating vaccination psychosis increases I'd hold off for the classical version like Valneva's.
Like hell you're an MD.
@goaded A little late to the party, but you must also realize Europe has favored the Valneva vaccine. I am impartial to it if it gets to the states. Besides why are you attacking JamieLoves? Do you have proof he is not an MD?
@Gravit1 Yes, he thinks lots of people have died of the vaccine. In the real world, since the end of January, 140,000 Americans have died of the virus.
Even assuming the 4,000 number of people who died after getting a vaccination is correct, an MD would know to subtract the number of (mostly older) people who would be expected to pop their clogs within a couple of weeks of any given day. As of today, over 160 million Americans have had at least one shot - 4,000 is 0.0025% of them. In any given week, approximately 0.015% of the American population dies.
@goaded There's also 750000 adverse incidents reported in the UK. And like we say, by the government's own admission, only 10% are reported.
There's been some NHS whistleblowers recently saying their surgeries are getting overwhelmed with vaccine injuries, accounting for up to half of patients. In the same report the person said there had been numerous deaths and injuries, and that these weren't being reported by doctors to the yellow card system, bar one death which the family insisted that was reported.
Anyway, I kind of think you're wasting your breath now. Everybody has made their choice and you're not going to convince anyone to change their mind. The next few months will show us whether we will indeed fall off a cliff now as we suspected. It's not a conspiracy when every stage that we predicted is being checked off. Now there are rumblings that there will no release date on the 21st of June, or whenever it was supposed to be, because of the alleged Indian variant. So basically, as we suggested, this will not stop now, will go on for ever. If the government has no intent on releasing it's grip after a year and a half of false promises, then there's no reason to believe it will again, ever. At least until they have their digital system and passport in place. ie total totalitarian control.
They've already started the process of turning on the unvaccinated.
dailyexpose.co.uk/.../
This is the kind of wickedness that you're supporting. We saw it all from the start. We knew this would come to pass with any kind of compliance.
@Levin I really wish you'd provide links to back up your claims, it's too much of a pain to look up things like "750000 adverse incidents reported in the UK". Which, by the way, would be from 37,000,000 vaccinations, and the ones that aren't reported will obviously be the ones that aren't life-threatening (I didn't report my sore arm, for example).
"It's not a conspiracy when every stage that we predicted is being checked off. Now there are rumblings that there will no release date on the 21st of June, or whenever it was supposed to be, because of the alleged Indian variant. So basically, as we suggested, this will not stop now, will go on for ever."
Of course it won't go on forever, and it's not an "alleged" Indian variant. Nobody can make a reasonable prediction more than a couple of weeks in advance because things change that quickly. Of course there's a difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people; that's been known for centuries, and children have been kept out of school for not having various vaccinations for ages.
I don't even have to click on a link called "dailyexpose" to know it's BS.
@Levin I clicked on it anyway, and it's even worse than I expected. I have the choice to wear clothes or not, I don't expect I'll be let in to many restaurants if I choose not to.
Wow I'm glad I got the Moderna vacc. The most i felt was fatigue for 2 days but thats it.
Glad to hear about your positive experience!
Yep yep
This was interesting, thanks for posting.
Especially since your mother is a nurse.
I'd like to know more technical details from her, and how long the feelings persist. You should do an update at some point.
My mother isn't a nurse, but she works in the hospital.
I'll do an update for sure :)
I have had both of my shots and had no side effects from either except a sore arm where they stuck me. Mine was the Moderna vaccination.
Thank you for sharing this!
I hope that your mother gets her life back soon.
I had the moderna with a little pain at the injection site.
Glad to hear everything went well for you! :)
I also hope that my mother will soon be "normal" again, the head aches are causing a lot of distress for her.
“never trust social media”
So, we shouldn’t trust your story?
Well the experience she just described for one isn’t exactly backed by a multi billion dollar Corp that was paid $$$ to post it. This is more a social discussion forum rather than a antisocializing ad company. The other point would be that although she shared a bad experience with it she also said don’t underestimate vaccines as well. Seems erroneous to proclaim both sides of the fence.
@kmg9150 Well the blood clots also aren't backed by companies. Yet it's haltered the roll out. I am fairly sure if people were reporting constant headaches the rollouts would stop.
Also I think we now many people who have had the vaccine who are 100% fine after the day or 2 aches.
What I meant when I wrote "don't trust social media" was that you shouldn't trust people deliberately spreading misinformation about the vaccine.
G@G isn't social media in my opinion, it's more like a forum - it's not as quick as Twitter (retweets are SO easy), not as monetized as YouTube and Instagram (no clue whether people here were paid to write takes but I don't think so) and doesn't have as many members as Facebook, for example.
G@G is, in comparison, a rather small, tight-knit community.
I don't desccribe it as social media.
Still, you shouldn't think that just because my mother had a negative experience with the vaccine that the vaccine is bad for EVERYONE. There are certainly circumstances where the vaccine is very helpful. Also, not everyone has a negative reaction to the Covid vaccine or to vaccines in general, like @kmg9150 already pointed out.
What was confusing is you posted a experience/information on a global internet network, and tell users “don’t believe social media”.
In the end it’s still social
Social media
Social app
Social forum
People write down information to the public and it’s up to the person on what they want to believe or not. Either way, it’s there.
But for a person to say “here’s my story and don’t believe anyone else.” Because questionable.
Without vaccines, there would be so many deaths from diseases.
Vaccines have saved lives.
I also had Astrazeneca.. only sick and felt like shit for one day only.
Glad to hear the vaccine went well for you :) my mother's experience isn't representative of everyone of course!
Depression and temporary sickness can happen naturally as well. How can you be so sure it was the result of a vaccine? Maybe it occurred around the same time but that is sufficient to say the vaccine caused it.
Perhaps, but what if that is NOT the case?
I would prob say its the constant headaches thats causing the depression but she needs to go get checked out for the headaches could be blood clot could be something completely diff could be placeebo who knows
I agree that these things can happen naturally, but my mother never had a headache for more than a few days at a time in all of her life.
This is just HER experience, whether the vaccine and the headache/mental health issues are related can't be fully determined, but my mother feels very strongly about making sure people around her are aware of the possible side effects of the vaccine.
It's just ONE story of many. I know people who got the vaccine and handled it very well too, no side effects at all other than some minor dizziness.
I'm very sorry for your mother. It is worth remembering that we get vaccines entirely for our own benefit. It is mostly. to protect our loved ones from diseases I might get that could kill them It ain't about me.
By the way I have had every vaccine going on a regular basis for all of my life. Problems: ZERO. Recovery time required: NONE, not a microsecond EVER.
I think your mum should not do it just because of peer pressure
Thankfully I already got Covid so I don't need the vaccine
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My experience with astra zeneca. The first administration I had a little pain in my arm, as if I had been punched for two days. The second understatement I had no pain.