Should healthcare workers be required to take the Covid vaccine?

[Anonymous]

I predict by this fall vaccines hopefully will be required by most major corporations like Walmart, McDonald’s, Amazon, etc

[Lliam]

Absolutely not!

First, the jab isn't a vaccination. It's a gene modification experiment being tested on the general population.

Second, if I choose not to eat GMOs and chemicals, does that make me anti-food?

If covid was so deadly people would be witnessing death all around them, not just on TV. And if a vaccine was so effective, there would be no need for propaganda and coercion.

If we are supposed to trust science, why are hundreds of top global experts and thousands of medical practitioners being banned, blocked, censored, mocked and threatened for sharing scientific findings that do not support the official narrative?

More and more information about the danger of the jabs is coming to light. Blood clots, heart attacks, organ and neurological damage, Bell's Palsy, Kawasaki Disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, blindness, miscarriages, sterility, unusual female bleeding, painful rashes, acquired immune deficiency, cytokine storm, and death. Some of this, but only a tiny fraction (1-10%), is available in the VAERS reports.

All for a germ that, even IF one catches it, has a fatality rate of 0.002% for people under 20 years old, 0.03% for people between 20 and 40, 0.5% for people between 40 and 70, and around 5.5% for people over 70. But keep in mind that over 70 includes people up to 120 year old and people who have multiple co-morbidities who would die from things like common colds or flues. All these stats are based on having received no treatment.

There isn't even evidence that the jab is effective. Even the manufacturers admit that those who have received it can still contract and transmit the disease. There merely say that they "hope" it reduces symptoms. But a large number of people who have received the jab are now dying from covid. How interesting.

And isn't it interesting that inexpensive, extremely safe, and highly effective treatments have been vilified and denied to people who do develop covid symptoms? Why is that? Because it would be illegal to approve emergency use of an experimental medical treatment if even one other effective treatment was available.

People have been conditioned into believing that the immune system is a conspiracy theory and that the only way to survive is through the diligent efforts of the benevolent pharmaceutical industry. Not that there aren't some miraculous pharmaceuticals.

But why is the vaccine industry the ONLY industry that is immune from liability if it's products cause harm? Why do children today receive vaccines for something like 72 different illness, including common childhood illnesses and things that they might not ever encounter? And, in spite of that, why are children today much unhealthier than they were in previous generations?

Am I anti-vax? No. But I do believe in safety and accountability. And I believe in a person's right to control what is put in their body. If it's wrong to be forced to take a dick, it's wrong to be forced to have a substance injected into your body.

Lastly, to force or coerce people to engage in medical experiments goes against the Nuremberg Codes and other national and international laws. It's considered a crime against humanity.

[45Fstraight]

Well put! All the covid paranoid should read every word you have written here. I've never been an "anti-vaxer", but this poison will not be going into MY body!

[FatherJack]

@45Fstraight They will NOT read a word of this , as they will explode into a fit of cognitive dissonance , with a side order of Stockholm Syndrome. My daughter just had a 4 pathogen booster @ school , but she , like myself , and I have NOT influenced her , will NOT be having this heavily pushed , very suspect jab.

[NamerOfStars]

Insofar as that would risk exposing an entire industry to potentially debilitating side effects more-or-less all at once, no- it's a catastrophically stupid idea. Insofar as the industry it would potentially wipe out is the one that would TREAT those side effects, it's (impressively) even stupider.

And if there ARE no (well, no major; pretty much every medical treatment has SOME problems, and we already know these gene therapies are no exception) major wide-spread effects, all that's going to do is legitimize the idea that safety, legal liability, and long-term testing are unnecessary luxuries. Either this rollout will be a disaster, or it will raise public acceptance for the one that is. The only way out is strangling the monster in its cradle.

[Cynicaldreamer]

Healthcare worker here-

Currently it is NOT required at my facility, though "highly recommended." There is talk of it eventually becoming mandatory for everyone.

With that being said, no, I'm not vaccinated yet. Nor will I get it until it's mandated. I want to make sure it's completely safe with no side effects down the road before jeopardizing my health.

... and before anyone says, "But you work around patients and you're not vaccinated? That's very selfish of you!"
Even those that did get the vaccine, are required to wear a mask AT ALL TIMES in patient care areas!

Hmm, if the vaccine is so effective, why are those vaccinated still required to wear a mask? (Just saying)

[Asker]

You get fired where I work lol. The company mandated it thankfully so I don’t need to be around any misfits

[Cynicaldreamer]

"Misfits?" Now now, no need for insults- that makes you see immature to stoop to namecalling just because of us are using common sense :)

That's great that your job is mandating it! And with this new delta strain out, you'll have to let me know how that vaccine works against it okay?

[Asker]

No coworkers have been sick for about a month

[420Rachel]

No I believe it should be a choice. As long as hands are washed in-between procedures seeing patients and masks are kept on there shouldn't be any significant risk of transmission. Think about it, there are countless other highly contagious diseases that healthcare workers have to deal with besides COVID-19. The same safety precautions being used against COVID-19 are the same that have been in place for years for any other contagious disease. If someone feels safer having the vaccine then obviously they should get it. If they don't feel safe getting it because of the potential side effects they should not be forced to.

[Anonymous]

Corporations like Walmart, etc. should be vaccinating the people handling produce, stocking shelves & handling cash not the health care workers. Health care workers in corporations have the **least** amount of interaction with customers. But someone stocking shelves is coughing & sneezing on & handling with germ-crusted hands hundreds of items daily.

If, that is, COVID wasn't just a bad case of the yearly flu. People get pneumonia with the yearly flu. People with compromised immune systems have worse effects from the yearly flu (that is why during bad flu seasons - or if you've pneumonia, etc. - medical experts say to stay the fucking hell away from relatives undergoing chemo, young babies, etc.). People with prior medical conditions have complications from the yearly flu. And unfortunately, seniors are more prone to dying from the yearly flu than any other age group.

Anyone with half a functioning brain would realize 2 + 2 = 4. Not 2 + 2 = 58.

Unfortunately, the average person nowadays is a brainless sheep. As exemplified in the emulating and glorification of so-called celebrities and influencers who, 10 years ago even, would be viewed as trash and ignored.

[ArztSchlachthof]

No, no one should be required to do anything.

By taking a vaccine, you:

- "defend" only yourself
- don't develop ANY herd immunity
- don't help the economy or healthcare at all - why? There are more covid-positive people in Israel (70% vaccinated) than those covid-negative, for example

You can get more info regarding covid statistics from virologists like Montagnier (Nobel prize) or official sources people so gladly ignore.

If you say that you don't respect these, you don't respect science that doesn't suit you and you are trashing the very freedom or democracy people have died for.

[Levin]

This is really some evil that is taking over the world.

No one should be mandated to take an experimental medical treatment still in clinical trials, where the long term effects could be serious disablement or death.

That simple, really.

If you want to be 'safe', then lose some fucking weight, stop eating shit, and take some responsibility for your own life..

[gotc147]

Absolutely not! NOBODY should be forced to take a vaccine for anything!

If you're vaccinated then it doesn't matter if others around are, you're immune, you aren't catching it. Because of this, forcing others to take it as well is unnecessary and immoral, I'd even go so far as to say evil.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Yes. Healthcare and frontline workers (including retail) should have the vaccine - available for free, of course.

It makes sense. They're the highest transmission risk, and if enough frontline gets sick it does impact bottom line of profitability.

It just makes economic, public health, and social sense to mandate vaccines for these high risk populations.

[gotc147]

It's evil to mandate a vaccine.

[Kdizzle85]

@gotc147 It’s not evil to love others in a Christ-like way by protecting others and yourself through getting the vaccine.

[gotc147]

@Kdizzle85 It's evil to force people to do something they do not want to do.

[tyrantfuryre]

Wow. It’s people like this who should be locked in a cage and fed 3 times a day. Nothing else.

[Anonymous]

Yes. I have heard of too many stories of people dying after getting covid in the hospital. Healthcare workers learned in school that they need to prioritize their patients' well-being over their own so if they don't want to do their job, they can find a new one, instead of exposing high-risk patients to a potentially deadly virus.

[cth96190]

Anyone who wants to force vaccines on another person should move to North Korea, Cuba, or Venezeula.
That is where their mentality belongs.
The vaccine is a bioweapon that will kill and/or sterilise everyone to whom it is administered.
The time frame has been put at three years, roughly.
Anyone who tries to force it upon me, or mine, will be killed as an act of self defence.

[exitseven]

I am definitely pro vaccine but this is America and we cannot force people to take a drug that is not really thoroughly tested. My wife works in healthcare and she was required to take it. I am a teacher and the state let teachers cut the line to get it so I did.
I don;t think anyone should be forced to take it.

[Asker]

They have a choice but not if you want to work for certain companies

[exitseven]

When I joined the Air Force I had to be vaccinated for small pox again so yeah, I get it.

[Anonymous]

I see you're not a big fan of "my body my choice". lol. Or freedom.
Probably one of those people who think the government SHOULD be involved in every aspect of your life because you suck at making decisions for yourself?
Anti-religious? Yet, refuses to acknowledge that being unable to work, do business, buy or sell unless you have "the mark" is some straight-out-of-the-bible-shit. :)
Also, the famous phrase "papers please", which you WANT to be a condition to participate in society and even to put food on your family's table, was made historically famous by literal Nazis. But you've been so blinded by your politics that this all seems normal to you and you follow along like a good little sheep.

Nah, I'm not about forcing people to take experimental vaccines which barely have any affect on the virus anyway.

[LohrvsData]

The choice should be quite clear. If a parent fails to take a child to the doctor after seeing their child get sick, and the child dies from said sickness, they would be held legally responsible.

Same should apply here. If you don't take the vaccine, and someone dies because they got Covid from you, you should be held liable.

You have the freedom to choose if you want to take the vaccine or not, but you should also be expected to be responsible with your decision.

[Ms_Vanderquack]

Everyone should be. But yes, especially healthcare workers. Fortunately most people working in hospitals and what not have some level of medical education so they aren’t dumb enough to avoid getting it in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Funny how no one is required to do regular exercise, eat a healthy diet, supplement with vitamin D3, K2, iodine, selenium and NAC in order to be permitted to work in an establishment. Most of you pro vaxxers are so devoid of the molecules your immune system needs to reduce viral load, reduce viral replication, destroy viruses in the sweat, saliva, nasal passageways and elsewhere... that you are actually the bigger threat to others.

[Liber8CopWatch]

So take away personal choice? What if someone has a medical condition that makes taking the vaccine a threat to their life? What if someone has an extreme phobia of needles and the mere sight of a needle causes them to become extremely violent? Do not even think about forcing this on someone because it could have deadly consequences

[Asker]

Same with Covid

[Sammie97]

I’m going through this now. I am currently looking for a job and one of the requirements is to be vaccinated. I don’t feel I should have to get a vaccine in order to get a job.

[Asker]

Work for a local business, I personally feel like mom and pop stores shouldn’t be required

[gotc147]

Because you shouldn't.

[Hxxmx]

Yes they should (must). And it is not because a President said so or because some billionaire invested heavily in it.
It is sick people that mostly come to the hospital (incase you don't know), people with immune weakened already, they susceptible to viruses, flu and infections. let's not stress the 3 strain part.

[Brett18]

No

#1. Taking the vaccine should be a choice and forcing anyone to take something they don't want is not okay.

#2. Taking away someones freedoms or work position etc because they choose not to take the covid vaccine makes no sense because people who are fully vaccinated have the same chance of catching covid and spreading covid as people who are not vaccines.

#3. All the vaccine does is make the symptoms of covid (which in the vast majority of people is nothing), a bit less

[Kabluie]

Yes, France just made it required for all healthcare workers. Although the amount of healthcare works that had not gotten it in US is probably the lowest % of all professions though. Some RNs and MDs made some stances because they had gotten covid previously and wanted to ride out the natural antibodies.

[Floppy2112]

No. Not everybody can take the vaccine and those who had covid don't need it. We shouldn't punish people for personal health decisions.
I think everybody who can take the vaccine, should. But I won't bitch if they don't. I got mine, so I should be good. I am still not going to deliberately put myself in a room with covid positive people, but otherwise I am living my life mask free.

[John_Doesnt]

Everybody should be required to get the vaccine. The last ones need to be strapped down and forced, because they've been brainwashed by conservative media into hating vaccines.
We have to force people to take their medicine so life can go back to normal.

[rosemilk]

required? no. it's their choice. they know the risks, they are around it all of the time 🌸