Fuck censorship loving liberals who love propaganda and despise truthful information that calls into question the corrupt WHO, CDC and big pharma narrative.
How dare any one do their own research, seek honest information or ask questions. They should just do what they are told.
"As a scientist, it baffles me when people say things like 'trust the science.' Scientists are the most skeptical people on the planet, we absolutely would never "trust the science,' we doubt everything that our peers claim at every single step. Scientists don't trust other scientists so why the hell does everyone else? You shouldn't trust science, science isn't supposed to be based on trust."
Why do people feel it's healthy to ban, block, censor, mock, slander and threaten honest scientists who share their findings?
The massive push for vaccines and the online censorship campaign was the final nail in the coffin that convinced me to not get the vaccine, even though I consider it reasonably effective and safe. Also, you can laugh while they are banning things you disagree with. When they come for you and your opinion, I bet you will be less amused. And that is exactly what is happening to more and more people on both sides of politics. Once censorship gets going, it rarely stops without a big crash. It's a bad idea even if it did help change people's minds. What it really does is help dig the trenches deeper...
It isn't censorship. If it were censorship, then every single platform engages in censorship. Nothing you guys say makes any sense.
How can you claim anti-vaxxers should be allowed, but then censor porn, naked bodies, hate groups, flat-earth believers, satanists, etc?
Nothing you guys say has anything foundation in reality.
It is just bunch of narcissistic, weird, nonsensical crap.
The founding principle of this country is. . . the government cannot tell a private business what to do.
The only exception is the violation of a citizen's civil rights. You have no civil right to post on youtube. Period. This was decided by our courts centuries ago.
I am not sure who the "us" is in this case and nobody is talking about laws. Companies are used by governments to do their dirty work for them to circumvent laws and that is certainly not cool. But not what we were discussing. Yes, restricting porn is censorship and I am not happy with that either. Violence and sexuality are usually best left as opt-in, hidden by default but available. But that is also irrelevant to the topic. You are specifically happy to have your opponents removed from the debate. I am pointing out that that could happen to you in the future. Whether a company has the right to do so is besides the point. You say changing minds is not the point. So then this is really just about hurting people you don't like. I would understand if you wanted to save someone from being wrong. But if not, then you are indeed not being very neighborly.
I don't have time for conspiracy nonsense. The only issue you have is that you have made vaccinations a political conversation. This while not being a scientist, nurse or doctor. So you are voicing an opinion anonymously that you cannot be sued for or have legal action taken against you. A doctor recommending medical advice at least can be held accountable for someone dying in his/her care.
You are a troll. There is no way to hold you accountable for anything you say here.
So again, you would censor everything else. . . you just allow fruitcakes to post about anti-vax nonsense with no facts, science or evidence to support their assertions. We can't prove flat-earthers claim no one can prove them wrong also. But to pretend they have some foothold in reality is simply not being rational.
You do not seem to be reading my messages, it looks like you are responding to someone else. So only a small clarification. I don't think censorship works. So I wouldn't apply it to anything. It is possible to prove flat earthers wrong. They may not accept it, but a proof is easy to supply. Only as long as their videos remain up publicly though, as opposed to some private groups somewhere else we wouldn't go. Better for everyone if they stay up.
It is not possible to prove a flat earther wrong. They, like the anti-vax/anti-medicine community come to that conclusion all on their own.
All we can do is wait. We have folks in our society writing nurse and doctors accusing them of murder over this vaccine. Imagine that. . . being so insane you literally scare people out of the medical profession because you think they are damaging your political views.
They are beyond our reach. I can only hope God can reason with them. What you propose is not reasonable. You are basically saying all speech is free. We know that is not true. And you can't. . . mean. . . how many ways can this be said. . .
you can't tell a private business how to run its business. . . when do you acknowledge that? You are advising youtube to let anti-vaxxers have access. Well, what about porn videos? What about child molesters? What about racists like David Duke? Why remove any posts at all if the only "crime" they have committed is that they are wrong?
are you saying proof that the earth is not flat does not exist? Whether they like it or not, that is something else. You can point it our for the audience who isn't sure. You can ridicule flat earthers, you can explain how exactly they are wrong. But the proof is clear, it is there and people learn about it because the debates are public. Illegal content will not be allowed so child molesters are out of question. Visually disturbing things should be removed from thumbnails so you have a choice whether or not you see them, but no reason to ban the video. Probably a good idea to have to allow porn on youtube in settings, otherwise you would not see it but you could if you wanted to. All google is doing there is lose market share in something people consume anyway. No I can't force them to run their company how I want. I can however tell them what they should or should not do and point out that you are being nasty if you agree and encourage people to be removed for disagreeing with you. I am not even an anti vaxxer. I agree even the covid ones seem to be safe and effective. Unnecessary for some demographics, but safe nonetheless. But the conviction with which people defend fascist practies just because a private company does them is frankly disturbing.
1. You simply are not responding to my point. Why on earth does youtube have a special obligation beyond that of any other company to let flat-earthers on their platform? You are putting youtube, I guess into this special category. Without explaining why they have an obligation to the American tax payer. The American taxpayer has not given them a single dime. Advertisers give them their money. That’s why I say in every post nothing you say makes any sense. It doesn’t matter if it is a religious group or an insane fruitcake flat earth conspiracy organization. The only thing different about youtube, is its size and popularity. And it should do whatever it wishes to remain the most popular and biggest provider out there. That’s the freedom it has. You do not have the freedom to make business decisions on behalf of youtube. They are not government owned. They have no mandate to service all Americans. I cannot understand why this is not something you see as a basic right in a capitalistic society. A business must be allowed to do what it thinks ensures its profitability. Even if you think the decision is a bad one. 2. Why is the content illegal? Who decided that one? All speech is free. That’s your definition not mine. So if all speech is free, why are you banning some speech and allowing others? Oh. . . that is based upon your subjective morality. That’s all I am saying. Youtube is basing their decisions upon their subjective decision making process. They never claimed to be a free speech platform. And even if they did, changing their mind would be a business decision. Not a government one. The government. . . as in “we” do not own youtube. We can’t tell it one single thing. We can only complain as customers.
3. So your argument really isn’t grounded in anything. You pose possibilities you know that will never become true. Youtube will never allow porn. It will never allow blatantly racist content. It will never allow David Duke to post videos. Because youtube can decide for itself what it will allow and what it will not. And those decisions are not based in a debate about vaccines or the benefits of free speech.
They are based in the founding principle of American democracy. A business has one responsibility.
To be profitable.
This has nothing to do with your strange ideas about how to run a company. I own a company so by your definition I am a fascist. Because I do not entertain nonsense about how my company should run. I will hire folks I think help me be successful. I will fire folks I think hurt my success.
And no one will use some nutty argument about Hitler and Germany to tell me I can’t.
This is another example of tyranny that it being used to stifle opposition to the COVID lie and to make it more difficult for people to realise that the DNA altering bioweapons that are being called vaccines are intended to wipe out the population of the planet.
@RolandCuthbert The global elite and their boot lickers in Silicone Valley, politics and business will not escape. The day of the guillotine is coming. Whether or not we the people administer justice in this dimension, the elite and their minions will all burn in Hell for eternity. So will you, if you do not open your eyes and repent.
I don't know if I feel anything. I will still watch fight clips and other stuff. YouTube banning stuff have been doing left and right, I don't know how and how many videos they will take down. Well let us see. Also I am pretty cynical when it comes to private companies and I think whatever they do, they do for their profits and control and not because they care so much about us. Also tyranny anarchy censorship cancellation is supported when as long as it serves your agenda so, celebrate if you like it and feel bad if you don't. Cheers
Isn't that the truth? I am not applauding youtube because they are virtuous. I am applauding them because it is good business. If they keep allowing clowns, regular folks will go elsewhere. And of course, the clowns will follow.
Hahaha, didn't think about it that way. I don't consider YouTube as a platform where people often interact with each other, I mean if you are living in a bubble, YouTube's algorithm will pull you even deep in that bubble. So people don't really care what other people are doing, unless they really want to know. So I am not sure if it will attract more regular people. Also this youtube.com/shorts/WHh5CizBtu4?feature=share Hope it works.
We’re about to shut America down one by one ☝️- see if you Biden supporter work ! Millions of us to shut this shyt show down ! Watch what we do ! Sheep 🐑
Wait until we start shooting and looting - we have antifa and BLM on our side now - let’s get this party started ! The plan ! The global reset when unemployed workers start quitting and the lights go out ! I can survive and guess what I stocked piled us crazy conspiracy theropod did - wait until the food runs out too - stfu sheep
That extention will automatically take you away from youtube if the same video exists on https://odysee.com and will also allow you to convert your subscriptions. That way you automatically boycott youtube videos if they exist on this alternative platform.
No one wants your sickness spread on us unvaccinated people - these spiked proteins either keep that shyt somewhere else.. keep getting your boosters RolandCuthbert
oh yeah. Imagine, a vaccine that works so well, that the same social media that helped install a communist dictator into office, is now censoring any reports of negative side affects from the vaccine, or people pointing out that vaccinated people are still going to the hospitals all over the place. Sort of reminds me of the time Hitler burned books/information that he disagreed with too. Crazy to see another black man up here advocating for the rise of another Hitler. But you do you, honey boo boo.
Censoring information is the opposite of free speech.
Yawn a communist troll comes to my thread to talk about how his communism is not communism. The guberment coming in and telling google to allow anti-vax freakshows to post is the very definition of communism. You are free to infect any other platform. But whine because they are not popular.
It sounds like all of you are just poor businessmen.
YouTube has long been a propeganda platform and this is only another step into the direction of banning anything thats not vetted. They also ban things like fishing or politically dissenting speech.
If you care about creator freedom and debate https://odysee.com is the place to go, and if you make content you can sync your youtube content there so you are on a site with a functional algorythm.
This horrible and VERY scary news. For some reason, big tech is trying to control what we see and hear. It is also a VERY slippery slope. When does it stop? What will be the next topic to be censored? Who controls what subjects are censored? As censorship is seen as the new normal, how far will it go?
There are many subjects on Youtube that I consider stupid, unwise, unethical, immoral, or just plain misguided. However, I still support the right for others to watch, believe, and support what they wish. Big tech needs to do the same for others.
Regrettable and disappointing. The worst way to promote an idea or, in this case, a product. The Catholic Church did something similar centuries ago to promote and defend her faith---except that another of the tools she employed was called the Inquisition.
Nope. This is no inquisition. Covid-deniers are not on trial. And regular folks don't want to deal with them. You guys can go to any dark place on the net and cook up any nonsense you wish.
You have no "freedom" to post nonsense on any platform you wish.
I guess Youtube is no longer about free speech. Sad that people aren't given a chance to decide for themselves... I'm glad that I really don't use youtube.
Disagree Roland, you are entitled to your opinion but people should be allowed to decide for themselves. It's suppression of free speech. Do me a favor though if you have a moment and google Pyridostigmine Bromide or PB pills, Anthrax Vaccine and tell me what you find. We were told these were safe as well. I bet you find a lot of info about Gulf War Syndrome, Lupus and various other diseases attributed to these. We in the military were told they would be FDA approved "soon" and that they were "safe".
For what purpose? To have a debate with an anti-vaxxer?
You don't get it. I am not here to debate you. Your beliefs are like akin to a religious zealot. The point you have freedom. You are free to go to any dark place on the net and spout these conspiracies. You just can't do it on youtube. Because youtube has the freedom to set policies on how their platform is used.
I have had hundreds of posts removed from GaG.
And if I whine, all management here would do is drink my tears.
How can we be debating the simple rights and freedoms granted to us as citizens in 2021? We decided this decades ago.
RolandCuthbert, because you are close minded, I really don't care what you think and the fact that you are too lazy to google anything proves it. They are vaccines that were proven to cause various illnesses, but you just toe the line like a good little sheep and believe whatever they tell you to believe. Also, I'm not an anti-vaxxer as I have taken other vaccines that are proven. It's to early with the Covid vaccines to say they don't have detrimental effects, so I choose to wait. You realize that last year alone the FDA recalled around 340 drugs that were initially approved right? There are hundreds that are recalled every year so all the more reason to wait considering the virus is over 99% survivable.
I have the freedom to be closed-minded. And you are free to be insane. But you keep lying to yourself and to everyone else. You are playing this victim role for a platform that you did not pay for nor did your tax dollars go to create. Youtube became this immensely successful platform. They owe you nothing. Not even the right to post a video on it. They create terms of service the same as every other platform. I have violated those terms before. . . in their opinion and have had opinions and videos taken down. I have had posts removed from GaG. I have been banned from Twitter for posting absolute truth about scam websites.
And there is no one to complain to. Because those social networks are not government owned. No tax payer dollars went to the creation of those sites. And the funny thing is, your tax dollars go to subsidize oil corporations, banks, and other businesses and you don't care one lick.
Anyone can see if you guys are so upset, this is a business opportunity. If your case is so compelling, then billions of people should flock to a platform full of superstitious, violent, nonsensical, racist, pornographic bullcrap.
RolandCuthbert, yep... typical response from people like you. My view is right and anything different is wrong. I think everyone realizes you are the insane one here.
watch all the anti-vaxxers claim it violates freedom of speech lol. remember youtube is a private company. its a TOS thing not a 'freedom of speech' thing!
They talk about preserving bodily autonomy but can't see that transmitting a deadly pathogen is a far greater infringement of bodily autonomy than saying you can't go to work if you don't get a vaccine.
@DarkWinterNights How much is the vaccination increasing the profit margins of the companies making the vaccines and how does that compare to how much we'd be indebted to the financial sector were it not for the stimulus checks?
@Ad_Quid_Orator, One if the reasons besides rampant censorship that are fueling the vaccine hesitant are people like you who don’t even know what the Covid vaccine does. The amount of misinformation you guys are spreading is only hurting your side.
@Ad_Quid_Orator, “.. found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar.”
This was from months ago and now it’s so prevalent they’ve stopped calling them breakthrough cases.
Less likely to contract Covid or more likely to be asymptomatic?
There are many people who have had Covid at least once that are not worried about being hospitalized or dying from Covid. If there was an exemption for natural immunity like other countries have there would be much less pushback.
How do you exercise your free speech further? Free speech is your constitutional right. Don’t confuse that for the freedom to speak on a social network. I get posts deleted here everyday. And I haven’t whined once.
I'll remember the wise words of the "experts" at the FDA next time I see one of those "you may be entitled to compensation if you have taken..." ads. In the meantime, all hail our lords and saviors, the YouTube fact checkers.
Its all fun and games until they ban something YOU want to say. They're setting the precedent that they can control information. And you're cheering. Remember this feeling of joy and triumph when it happens to you. Feel that swell of pride and vindication when YOU get censored, because you cheered their ability to control what you can and can't say
Fuck you! My mom and I both got vaxxed and I was sick for 1 week and my mom for 2, and my dad who had no vax, got the LEAST sick! Fuck you, you ignorant unpatriotic tyrant! There's BOTH sides to the story!
Go ahead and continue your agenda. The day will come when the country has had enough of you people. And just remember, WE have guns. You guys don't!
Yeah. Who decides what's "misinformation"? You can't just pick and choose what suits you. Just because it didn't happened to YOU doesn't mean it isn't real. YouTube is starting to piss me off with this shit, and the fact that people are okay with it, is concerning. Funny how the Left spread misinformation all the time, but they have no qualms about censoring stuff that doesn't fit their agenda.
Why can't they just put both sides of the argument and let people make their own mind? Posting anti vax content is dangerous, but promoting tourism to radical Islamic countries ISN'T?
Get the fuck off my thread you batshit crazy troll. Here you are telling me about what happened to your family while being anonymous?
That's how fucking nuts you are. My auntie and sister died of Covid.
And if you are going to stay anonymous, I will call you what you a lying batshit troll spreading lies on the net trying to force people to accept his insane beliefs.
You're a fucking psycho! People like you are ruining this country. And your reply to me isn't doing much to help the agressive black guy stereotype. Of course my experience doesn't matter because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Was your family vaccinated? So YOUR experience happened but MINE is made up. You people are fucking pathetic!
And I will call you one until you prove me wrong. I will met you in any forum you wish, Zoom, Microsoft Teams, Webebx, I have the photos of my sister in the hospital intubated in the ICU with dozens of tubes going in and out of her. I have the funerals photos, videos, of my her and my auntie.
So I have called you out you cowardly lying freak.
Fine, I'll answer it for YOU. If you say she DIDN'T get it, you go against your own argument and the very thing you're supporting. If you say she TOOK it, but got COVID anyways, then you prove MY argument right. So no matter what you answer you end up looking like a fool, that's why your best tactic is to throw insults. Maybe next time thing things through before you go on a rant like this. But you Liberals don't know how to think. All you've accomplished here is make Liberals look like morons, and Blacks look aggresive. Good job. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Both our posts are up. People can read them and come to their own conclusion. At least a few are smart enough to see through your bullshit
If Google and the other "platforms" really are platforms and protected by the law, they should not be manipulating people and playing judge and juror with content. It's hypocritical and I don't like it.
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Fuck censorship loving liberals who love propaganda and despise truthful information that calls into question the corrupt WHO, CDC and big pharma narrative.
How dare any one do their own research, seek honest information or ask questions. They should just do what they are told.
"As a scientist, it baffles me when people say things like 'trust the science.' Scientists are the most skeptical people on the planet, we absolutely would never "trust the science,' we doubt everything that our peers claim at every single step. Scientists don't trust other scientists so why the hell does everyone else? You shouldn't trust science, science isn't supposed to be based on trust."
Why do people feel it's healthy to ban, block, censor, mock, slander and threaten honest scientists who share their findings?
Follow the money.
This isn't censorship. If that is censorship, GaG is censoring posts every single day.
What in the world is this silliness?
Oh. . . by the way, private businesses want to make money. You are using GaG.
The owners here did not create this platform for charity work.
The massive push for vaccines and the online censorship campaign was the final nail in the coffin that convinced me to not get the vaccine, even though I consider it reasonably effective and safe.
Also, you can laugh while they are banning things you disagree with. When they come for you and your opinion, I bet you will be less amused. And that is exactly what is happening to more and more people on both sides of politics. Once censorship gets going, it rarely stops without a big crash. It's a bad idea even if it did help change people's minds. What it really does is help dig the trenches deeper...
No one is trying to change your mind. That's just narcissism. If you left youtube, no one would lose two seconds of sleep.
So if it's not about changing minds, why the cencorship? If you are not going to achieve anything by it, then it would be kind of petty.
It isn't censorship. If it were censorship, then every single platform engages in censorship. Nothing you guys say makes any sense.
How can you claim anti-vaxxers should be allowed, but then censor porn, naked bodies, hate groups, flat-earth believers, satanists, etc?
Nothing you guys say has anything foundation in reality.
It is just bunch of narcissistic, weird, nonsensical crap.
The founding principle of this country is. . . the government cannot tell a private business what to do.
The only exception is the violation of a citizen's civil rights. You have no civil right to post on youtube. Period. This was decided by our courts centuries ago.
I am not sure who the "us" is in this case and nobody is talking about laws. Companies are used by governments to do their dirty work for them to circumvent laws and that is certainly not cool. But not what we were discussing. Yes, restricting porn is censorship and I am not happy with that either. Violence and sexuality are usually best left as opt-in, hidden by default but available. But that is also irrelevant to the topic.
You are specifically happy to have your opponents removed from the debate. I am pointing out that that could happen to you in the future. Whether a company has the right to do so is besides the point. You say changing minds is not the point. So then this is really just about hurting people you don't like. I would understand if you wanted to save someone from being wrong. But if not, then you are indeed not being very neighborly.
I don't have time for conspiracy nonsense. The only issue you have is that you have made vaccinations a political conversation. This while not being a scientist, nurse or doctor. So you are voicing an opinion anonymously that you cannot be sued for or have legal action taken against you. A doctor recommending medical advice at least can be held accountable for someone dying in his/her care.
You are a troll. There is no way to hold you accountable for anything you say here.
So again, you would censor everything else. . . you just allow fruitcakes to post about anti-vax nonsense with no facts, science or evidence to support their assertions. We can't prove flat-earthers claim no one can prove them wrong also. But to pretend they have some foothold in reality is simply not being rational.
You do not seem to be reading my messages, it looks like you are responding to someone else. So only a small clarification. I don't think censorship works. So I wouldn't apply it to anything. It is possible to prove flat earthers wrong. They may not accept it, but a proof is easy to supply. Only as long as their videos remain up publicly though, as opposed to some private groups somewhere else we wouldn't go. Better for everyone if they stay up.
It is not possible to prove a flat earther wrong. They, like the anti-vax/anti-medicine community come to that conclusion all on their own.
All we can do is wait. We have folks in our society writing nurse and doctors accusing them of murder over this vaccine. Imagine that. . . being so insane you literally scare people out of the medical profession because you think they are damaging your political views.
They are beyond our reach. I can only hope God can reason with them. What you propose is not reasonable. You are basically saying all speech is free. We know that is not true. And you can't. . . mean. . . how many ways can this be said. . .
you can't tell a private business how to run its business. . . when do you acknowledge that? You are advising youtube to let anti-vaxxers have access. Well, what about porn videos? What about child molesters? What about racists like David Duke? Why remove any posts at all if the only "crime" they have committed is that they are wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3fZj2qpZ1Y
are you saying proof that the earth is not flat does not exist? Whether they like it or not, that is something else. You can point it our for the audience who isn't sure. You can ridicule flat earthers, you can explain how exactly they are wrong. But the proof is clear, it is there and people learn about it because the debates are public.
Illegal content will not be allowed so child molesters are out of question. Visually disturbing things should be removed from thumbnails so you have a choice whether or not you see them, but no reason to ban the video. Probably a good idea to have to allow porn on youtube in settings, otherwise you would not see it but you could if you wanted to. All google is doing there is lose market share in something people consume anyway.
No I can't force them to run their company how I want. I can however tell them what they should or should not do and point out that you are being nasty if you agree and encourage people to be removed for disagreeing with you. I am not even an anti vaxxer. I agree even the covid ones seem to be safe and effective. Unnecessary for some demographics, but safe nonetheless. But the conviction with which people defend fascist practies just because a private company does them is frankly disturbing.
1. You simply are not responding to my point. Why on earth does youtube have a special obligation beyond that of any other company to let flat-earthers on their platform? You are putting youtube, I guess into this special category. Without explaining why they have an obligation to the American tax payer. The American taxpayer has not given them a single dime. Advertisers give them their money. That’s why I say in every post nothing you say makes any sense. It doesn’t matter if it is a religious group or an insane fruitcake flat earth conspiracy organization. The only thing different about youtube, is its size and popularity. And it should do whatever it wishes to remain the most popular and biggest provider out there. That’s the freedom it has. You do not have the freedom to make business decisions on behalf of youtube. They are not government owned. They have no mandate to service all Americans. I cannot understand why this is not something you see as a basic right in a capitalistic society. A business must be allowed to do what it thinks ensures its profitability. Even if you think the decision is a bad one.
2. Why is the content illegal? Who decided that one? All speech is free. That’s your definition not mine. So if all speech is free, why are you banning some speech and allowing others? Oh. . . that is based upon your subjective morality. That’s all I am saying. Youtube is basing their decisions upon their subjective decision making process. They never claimed to be a free speech platform. And even if they did, changing their mind would be a business decision. Not a government one. The government. . . as in “we” do not own youtube. We can’t tell it one single thing. We can only complain as customers.
3. So your argument really isn’t grounded in anything. You pose possibilities you know that will never become true. Youtube will never allow porn. It will never allow blatantly racist content. It will never allow David Duke to post videos. Because youtube can decide for itself what it will allow and what it will not. And those decisions are not based in a debate about vaccines or the benefits of free speech.
They are based in the founding principle of American democracy. A business has one responsibility.
To be profitable.
This has nothing to do with your strange ideas about how to run a company. I own a company so by your definition I am a fascist. Because I do not entertain nonsense about how my company should run. I will hire folks I think help me be successful. I will fire folks I think hurt my success.
And no one will use some nutty argument about Hitler and Germany to tell me I can’t.
This is another example of tyranny that it being used to stifle opposition to the COVID lie and to make it more difficult for people to realise that the DNA altering bioweapons that are being called vaccines are intended to wipe out the population of the planet.
Haha!!! It is tyranny because you can't rant and rave on youtube?
Oh, the humanity!!!
@RolandCuthbert
The global elite and their boot lickers in Silicone Valley, politics and business will not escape.
The day of the guillotine is coming.
Whether or not we the people administer justice in this dimension, the elite and their minions will all burn in Hell for eternity. So will you, if you do not open your eyes and repent.
Ah the global elite conspiracy to support the vaccine conspiracy to support the liberal conspiracy to support the one world gumberment conspiracy. . .
Haha!!!
@cth96190 I agree with you on this.
I don't know if I feel anything. I will still watch fight clips and other stuff. YouTube banning stuff have been doing left and right, I don't know how and how many videos they will take down.
Well let us see.
Also I am pretty cynical when it comes to private companies and I think whatever they do, they do for their profits and control and not because they care so much about us. Also tyranny anarchy censorship cancellation is supported when as long as it serves your agenda so, celebrate if you like it and feel bad if you don't.
Cheers
Isn't that the truth? I am not applauding youtube because they are virtuous. I am applauding them because it is good business. If they keep allowing clowns, regular folks will go elsewhere. And of course, the clowns will follow.
Hahaha, didn't think about it that way.
I don't consider YouTube as a platform where people often interact with each other, I mean if you are living in a bubble, YouTube's algorithm will pull you even deep in that bubble. So people don't really care what other people are doing, unless they really want to know. So I am not sure if it will attract more regular people.
Also this
youtube.com/shorts/WHh5CizBtu4?feature=share
Hope it works.
It’s time to start boycotting businesses that restrict people freedom of speech so fuck all these corporations that ARE OK WITH THIS.
The left is the problem for this country ! Right wings conservative are gonna sit back and watch thus shyt show !
Exactly boycott!
Hopefully you will find 25 people. You guys will make a devastating impact.
Haha!!!
There are millions of us - we can shit America down as we will ! Enjoy the shyt show
Yep, there are millions of you. Tell the orderly that your straight jacket needs tightening.
We’re about to shut America down one by one ☝️- see if you Biden supporter work ! Millions of us to shut this shyt show down ! Watch what we do ! Sheep 🐑
Wait until we start shooting and looting - we have antifa and BLM on our side now - let’s get this party started ! The plan ! The global reset when unemployed workers start quitting and the lights go out ! I can survive and guess what I stocked piled us crazy conspiracy theropod did - wait until the food runs out too - stfu sheep
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That extention will automatically take you away from youtube if the same video exists on https://odysee.com and will also allow you to convert your subscriptions. That way you automatically boycott youtube videos if they exist on this alternative platform.
There you go! Bye!
No one wants your sickness spread on us unvaccinated people - these spiked proteins either keep that shyt somewhere else.. keep getting your boosters RolandCuthbert
oh yeah. Imagine, a vaccine that works so well, that the same social media that helped install a communist dictator into office, is now censoring any reports of negative side affects from the vaccine, or people pointing out that vaccinated people are still going to the hospitals all over the place. Sort of reminds me of the time Hitler burned books/information that he disagreed with too. Crazy to see another black man up here advocating for the rise of another Hitler. But you do you, honey boo boo.
Censoring information is the opposite of free speech.
Yawn a communist troll comes to my thread to talk about how his communism is not communism. The guberment coming in and telling google to allow anti-vax freakshows to post is the very definition of communism. You are free to infect any other platform. But whine because they are not popular.
It sounds like all of you are just poor businessmen.
This sounds like a good idea to me. I approve of it.
Your nuts lady, thats called censorship. One of our basic rights
@humanearth You have no rights on a privately owned platform. You don't even have rights here on GaG.
To believe you do is to be an insane fruitcake troll.
YouTube has long been a propeganda platform and this is only another step into the direction of banning anything thats not vetted. They also ban things like fishing or politically dissenting speech.
If you care about creator freedom and debate https://odysee.com is the place to go, and if you make content you can sync your youtube content there so you are on a site with a functional algorythm.
Yep, go there. Go back to your troll infested dens. I am sure they are great places to bring the family.
Haha!!!
Whether you’re for or against the vaccine I don’t see why anyone would celebrate freedom of speech being taken away.
This horrible and VERY scary news. For some reason, big tech is trying to control what we see and hear. It is also a VERY slippery slope. When does it stop? What will be the next topic to be censored? Who controls what subjects are censored? As censorship is seen as the new normal, how far will it go?
There are many subjects on Youtube that I consider stupid, unwise, unethical, immoral, or just plain misguided. However, I still support the right for others to watch, believe, and support what they wish. Big tech needs to do the same for others.
You not being able to post on youtube is not scary news.
It is hilarious.
Not being able to find my left umbrella sock is scary news.
Regrettable and disappointing. The worst way to promote an idea or, in this case, a product. The Catholic Church did something similar centuries ago to promote and defend her faith---except that another of the tools she employed was called the Inquisition.
Nope. This is no inquisition. Covid-deniers are not on trial. And regular folks don't want to deal with them. You guys can go to any dark place on the net and cook up any nonsense you wish.
You have no "freedom" to post nonsense on any platform you wish.
I guess Youtube is no longer about free speech. Sad that people aren't given a chance to decide for themselves... I'm glad that I really don't use youtube.
No, they actually believe in freedom. And that is the freedom to not listen to insane nonsensical conspiracy theories.
GaG hasn't figured that out yet.
Disagree Roland, you are entitled to your opinion but people should be allowed to decide for themselves. It's suppression of free speech. Do me a favor though if you have a moment and google Pyridostigmine Bromide or PB pills, Anthrax Vaccine and tell me what you find. We were told these were safe as well. I bet you find a lot of info about Gulf War Syndrome, Lupus and various other diseases attributed to these. We in the military were told they would be FDA approved "soon" and that they were "safe".
Why would I google that?
For what purpose? To have a debate with an anti-vaxxer?
You don't get it. I am not here to debate you. Your beliefs are like akin to a religious zealot. The point you have freedom. You are free to go to any dark place on the net and spout these conspiracies. You just can't do it on youtube. Because youtube has the freedom to set policies on how their platform is used.
I have had hundreds of posts removed from GaG.
And if I whine, all management here would do is drink my tears.
How can we be debating the simple rights and freedoms granted to us as citizens in 2021? We decided this decades ago.
RolandCuthbert, because you are close minded, I really don't care what you think and the fact that you are too lazy to google anything proves it. They are vaccines that were proven to cause various illnesses, but you just toe the line like a good little sheep and believe whatever they tell you to believe. Also, I'm not an anti-vaxxer as I have taken other vaccines that are proven. It's to early with the Covid vaccines to say they don't have detrimental effects, so I choose to wait. You realize that last year alone the FDA recalled around 340 drugs that were initially approved right? There are hundreds that are recalled every year so all the more reason to wait considering the virus is over 99% survivable.
I have the freedom to be closed-minded. And you are free to be insane. But you keep lying to yourself and to everyone else. You are playing this victim role for a platform that you did not pay for nor did your tax dollars go to create. Youtube became this immensely successful platform. They owe you nothing. Not even the right to post a video on it. They create terms of service the same as every other platform. I have violated those terms before. . . in their opinion and have had opinions and videos taken down. I have had posts removed from GaG. I have been banned from Twitter for posting absolute truth about scam websites.
And there is no one to complain to. Because those social networks are not government owned. No tax payer dollars went to the creation of those sites. And the funny thing is, your tax dollars go to subsidize oil corporations, banks, and other businesses and you don't care one lick.
Anyone can see if you guys are so upset, this is a business opportunity. If your case is so compelling, then billions of people should flock to a platform full of superstitious, violent, nonsensical, racist, pornographic bullcrap.
I would simply call it HELL.
So create your hell and make billions.
Prove us wrong.
RolandCuthbert, yep... typical response from people like you. My view is right and anything different is wrong. I think everyone realizes you are the insane one here.
Every site should be doing the same thing. The anti-vaxxers are killing people.
i love it.
watch all the anti-vaxxers claim it violates freedom of speech lol. remember youtube is a private company. its a TOS thing not a 'freedom of speech' thing!
but you won't listen anyways lets be real lol
They actually do not believe in freedom of speech. They only believe in their universal right to violate everyone else's rights.
They talk about preserving bodily autonomy but can't see that transmitting a deadly pathogen is a far greater infringement of bodily autonomy than saying you can't go to work if you don't get a vaccine.
The speed in which the Right abandoned corporations and the Left embraced them is stunning.
@DarkWinterNights lol logic escapes you i guess huh?
@DarkWinterNights How much is the vaccination increasing the profit margins of the companies making the vaccines and how does that compare to how much we'd be indebted to the financial sector were it not for the stimulus checks?
@Ad_Quid_Orator, One if the reasons besides rampant censorship that are fueling the vaccine hesitant are people like you who don’t even know what the Covid vaccine does. The amount of misinformation you guys are spreading is only hurting your side.
@DarkWinterNights What are these effects and more importantly, how do they stack up to letting a deadly pathogen run rampant?
@Ad_Quid_Orator, “.. found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar.”
This was from months ago and now it’s so prevalent they’ve stopped calling them breakthrough cases.
www.npr.org/.../cdc-study-provincetown-delta-vaccinated-breakthrough-mask-guidance
@DarkWinterNights Yeah but people are less likely to contract covid if they have the vaccine in the first place:
www.jwatch.org/.../how-well-does-covid-19-vaccination-protect-against-delta
@Ad_Quid_Orator not to mention that you are also way wayyy less likely to die from covid when vaccinated and get it then when you are not.
Less likely to contract Covid or more likely to be asymptomatic?
There are many people who have had Covid at least once that are not worried about being hospitalized or dying from Covid. If there was an exemption for natural immunity like other countries have there would be much less pushback.
Post like these actually encourage people to exercise their freedom of speech further.
Also YouTube is getting old anyway, can’t wait for a new platform to replace it😌
That will probably never happen
Odysee. com is a good alternative
@sawno thanks boo
How do you exercise your free speech further? Free speech is your constitutional right. Don’t confuse that for the freedom to speak on a social network. I get posts deleted here everyday. And I haven’t whined once.
@Wubs1 ye hope not
I'll remember the wise words of the "experts" at the FDA next time I see one of those "you may be entitled to compensation if you have taken..." ads. In the meantime, all hail our lords and saviors, the YouTube fact checkers.
Well, find your "saviours" at Parler. And when you get sick, don't go to a hospital. Go to your "saviours" crib.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRTDsqNH_f8
listen to the millionaires and billionaires. they are extremely concerned about the paupers' (i. e. the 99 percent) health and safety.
Troll. . . logic. . .
A billionaire decides to kick me off his platform. I go elsewhere instead of whining.
Somehow that is listening to him.
If you find a dictionary open it up. If you want to find the kind of logic that reasoning represents. . . you will it under batshit crazy.
@RolandCuthbert if you find a history book, open it up. but keep licking the boot of the experts and live life in happy ignorance.
Its all fun and games until they ban something YOU want to say. They're setting the precedent that they can control information. And you're cheering. Remember this feeling of joy and triumph when it happens to you. Feel that swell of pride and vindication when YOU get censored, because you cheered their ability to control what you can and can't say
Haha! I get banned on Facebook, Twitter, and GaG.
I whine to no one.
But keep screaming and whining.
We might notice you down there one day.
Took you three days to come up with that lame ass response, huh? That explains a lot.
NO. . . I have 200 folks on this thread and unlike you I have a life in the real world.
Your world is going from forum staying anonymous and posting trash.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, my friend
Fuck you! My mom and I both got vaxxed and I was sick for 1 week and my mom for 2, and my dad who had no vax, got the LEAST sick!
Fuck you, you ignorant unpatriotic tyrant! There's BOTH sides to the story!
Go ahead and continue your agenda. The day will come when the country has had enough of you people. And just remember, WE have guns. You guys don't!
Right on!
Yeah. Who decides what's "misinformation"? You can't just pick and choose what suits you. Just because it didn't happened to YOU doesn't mean it isn't real. YouTube is starting to piss me off with this shit, and the fact that people are okay with it, is concerning. Funny how the Left spread misinformation all the time, but they have no qualms about censoring stuff that doesn't fit their agenda.
Why can't they just put both sides of the argument and let people make their own mind?
Posting anti vax content is dangerous, but promoting tourism to radical Islamic countries ISN'T?
Get the fuck off my thread you batshit crazy troll. Here you are telling me about what happened to your family while being anonymous?
That's how fucking nuts you are. My auntie and sister died of Covid.
And if you are going to stay anonymous, I will call you what you a lying batshit troll spreading lies on the net trying to force people to accept his insane beliefs.
You're a fucking psycho! People like you are ruining this country. And your reply to me isn't doing much to help the agressive black guy stereotype. Of course my experience doesn't matter because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Was your family vaccinated?
So YOUR experience happened but MINE is made up. You people are fucking pathetic!
I'm anonymous because I don't want you crazy Liberals to put a bomb in my mailbox
You are a lying batshit crazy anonymous troll.
And I will call you one until you prove me wrong. I will met you in any forum you wish, Zoom, Microsoft Teams, Webebx, I have the photos of my sister in the hospital intubated in the ICU with dozens of tubes going in and out of her. I have the funerals photos, videos, of my her and my auntie.
So I have called you out you cowardly lying freak.
Prove me wrong.
Did she have the vaccine or not?
YOU ARE ANONYMOUS BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING BATSHIT TROLL. YOU ARE A COWARD.
You are really aggressive. You were probably a bully in school.
Why don't you wanna answer a simple yes or no question as to whether or not she had the vaccine?
You are a liar. And a coward.
Fine, I'll answer it for YOU. If you say she DIDN'T get it, you go against your own argument and the very thing you're supporting. If you say she TOOK it, but got COVID anyways, then you prove MY argument right.
So no matter what you answer you end up looking like a fool, that's why your best tactic is to throw insults.
Maybe next time thing things through before you go on a rant like this.
But you Liberals don't know how to think.
All you've accomplished here is make Liberals look like morons, and Blacks look aggresive. Good job. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Both our posts are up. People can read them and come to their own conclusion. At least a few are smart enough to see through your bullshit
An anonymous batshit troll has to nerve to think his rhetoric is more than dogshit.
You are a liar and a coward.
If Google and the other "platforms" really are platforms and protected by the law, they should not be manipulating people and playing judge and juror with content.
It's hypocritical and I don't like it.
How is it hypocritical? If they are running a bad business model, your troll dens like Parler and 4chan should beat them hands down.
Besides, this is not just the law, this is the founding principle of American democracy. The guberment cannot tell a private firm what to do.
Well, unless they are taking taxpayer money. But the strange thing is, you just care about what youtube is doing.