Youtube, taking out the trash! Not just banning the anti-Covid crap. But all anti-vax videos in general. How long before they start banning videos of the dreaded Lizard-Human hybrid invasion?
YouTube said it is banning all content claiming that approved vaccines do not work or are harmful.
That includes vaccines for illnesses other than the coronavirus disease for the first time.
The ban is a departure from the industry's historical hands-off approach to content moderation.Google CEO, Sundar Pichaihe Google-owned social media platform will remove any video that attempts to describe well-known vaccines that are approved by federal health officials as being harmful, it said in a blog post first reported by the Washington Post. That includes content claiming vaccines can cause autism, cancer, infertility, or can allow the recipient of the vaccine to be tracked via microchip.
YouTube bans all Anti-Vax content. About time. How you guys like it?
It only proves peoples point that something isn't right with the vaccine.
Otherwise you wouldn't be doing things like
1# banning any and all information about it that shows anything wrong with it.
2# Saying things like you gotta protect the vaccinated against the unvaccinated which that itself pokes holes in the claim that the vaccine is effective if the vaccinated get the virus and transmit it just as normally as they would if they weren't vaccinated *shrugs*
3# Telling people to go after unvaccinated people.
4# Threaten unvaccinated people.
5# Try to bribe people to get the vaccine.
6# Are getting sick, dying from the vaccine as well as getting covid and transmitting it after getting the vaccine.
Among other things.
Everything they are doing shows more and more that something ain't right with it.
And let me make it clear I am not anti-vax and am vaccinated for several things. But I do have a right to be suspicious when the government is threatening people and trying to force a experimental, rushed vaccine that lacks full official FDA approval and is working off of emergency status onto folks.
And I especially have a right to be suspicious when a family member of mine immediately after taking his 2nd dose of the vaccine became paralyzed from the neck down and is currently in a hospital bed being fed through a tube. And probably will never move, walk or work again.
Which by the way it's illegal to try and force a vaccine like that onto people.
Everyone owes it to themselves to do their own research from varied sources to find out what is actually going on and if the vaccine is really safe. You shouldn't just take something on blind faith especially something like this.
But no one can research, have a discussion, etc if people are banning everything because they don't like it or it doesn't fit the narrative. That's not gonna solve anything.
And people like you are just part of the problem, ignorant, blind sheep so gullibly and blinding believing everything the people in power tell you.
If anything i hope it wakes more people up, why shut down the truths of the vaccine & what's really happening why are they all trying to control the narrative
It shows how stupid people are. It wouldn't be necessary to forbid misinformation if people stopped believing in it. For example people still believe that the vaccines change your DNA. Do you know how ridiculous that is? People still believe it and then refuse to take it.
So for the same of the general population stupidity and for the long and healthy life of the human race, let's put out bad information.
And you think you are fighting the big corporations? Think again pharmaceutical companies are making millions over promoting shit like Invermectin against the COVID instead of the vaccines. Which have been proven to not work, but if you go online many people believe it does and people are trying to hide it because they want to make money with the vaccine. Isn't that ironic?
Also a few things. 1. Banning ant vaxx information is banning misinformation. Not information.
2. The unvaccinated promote the virus mutation and well as it's spreading.
3. No one is telling us to go after you. The ones that do it do it because we want to.
4. How is threatening you?
5. Who is briding you?
6. Vaccine directed related deaths are negligible at best. And they have indeed reduced the number of daily infections and deaths.
I support that people should have the right to make their own choices. Even while browsing horrible information. But look where that got us before? Misinformation is dangerous and the masses just seem to follow the trends instead of thinking for themselves.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "Carlos Chaccour, a global-health researcher at the Barcelona Institute for Global Health in Spain, says it has been difficult to conduct rigorous studies on ivermectin. That’s partly because funders and academics in wealthy countries haven’t supported them, and, he suspects, have often dismissed trials of ivermectin because most of them have been done in lower-income countries."
@Juxtapose So there are no really viable trials made on it. And he suspects that's because people want to make money out of the vaccine. But pharmas are already making lots of money with Invermectin. Who tells me that doctor isn't one of the ones being paid to try to spread the use of that drug? You can say the same about the use of the vaccine, fair enough. It comes down to who you believe. A few random studies and doctors? Or the WHO and national health organizations?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Holy fuck you're actually a reasonable person and not one of these dogmatic red or blue retards, thank fuck!
Well considering that the USA government has experimented on its citizenry before & how much public officials have already been lying to us, Dr. Anthony Fauci being a prime example, I am more inclined to trust what the establishment rallies against.
If a medicine for covid is censored on social media (which has admitted working with the government) then it immediately gains my attention.
Either way you slice it though, more studies need to be done on all of this but of course profit motive & politics gets in the way.
@Juxtapose Same to you! Always glad to have a civil conversation even if the other side doesn't agree.
Answer me this, you in the US, left or right, you have a lot of mistrust in your media and government don't you? With good reason they care more about popularity than with the people. I blame them because makes it hard for the general population to know something with 100% sure. Here we also are skeptics of ours, but not nearly as much.
I fully support the finance of all studies of all drugs that might help. If they are proven to help and endorsed by health organizations let's use them! We need to save people. So far that I know of we don't. If the ones trying to bring light to them are genuine and are not greedy fucks? I can't say with 100% certainty. No one can.
But I have seen first hand the good that the vaccines are doing to my country. See Portugal numbers of new cases today with 84% of the population vaccinated and the number we had before the vaccination began. How can I disapprove it? We had LOTS of confinement rules and over 6000 new cases a day. Today we have nearly total freedom and this week we had days with less than 300.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "Answer me this, you in the US, left or right, you have a lot of mistrust in your media and government don't you?"
Yes. The media lies for the government & the government is controlled by sociopathic megalomaniacs. America is not a Democratic Republic, it is a Plutocratic Oligarchy that masquerades as a democracy.
Our prisons are filled to the brim with people (highest per capitia in the world), and for what? Smoking a plant? So much for bodily autonomy.
Civil asset forfeiture? That is dystopian enough that other people traveling to the United States have to be warned in travel brochures about it.
Don't like being spied on? Well too bad, the government was doing that before they even pretended to ask for permission.
Don't like war? Well too bad, the president lied about Iraq and started one of the longest wars in US history under false pretenses.
Don't like torture or human experimentation? Well too bad, especially if you are black!
Etc.
I believe all organizations are doomed to fall to corruption and that there are no or almost no legitimate governments in existence.
A legitimate government would exist to serve the people, not corporations.
1. Nonsense. People are banned here everyday. Posts are deleted. So are entire threads. If youtube is wrong, then every single platform that has a policy and deletes threads/bans users is wrong also. You see, you aren't logical in the foundation of your argument. If all speech is free speech why do business have policies banning certain speech. And why hasn't the federal guberment stepped in to force companies to allow every single form of speech?
2. You think this is a discussion about vaccines. That's how insane you are. You post your nonsense about vaccines here every single day. You can go to Parler right now and post your more ignorance. But you are going to whine to me about youtube, right?
:D
3. What? Who?
4. Again, what? Who? The only folks who are violent in this debate is your group. The American Taliban.
5. And?
6. Lies. In fact, your group is dropping like flies. Including the 75 year old man talked out of staying in a hospital by an anti-vaxxer who takes no responsibility for his death.
So if you, the American Taliban were so right, youtube will fail. But we know they won't. Here you are telling me I am sheep. Simply because you are sheep that wants to be raped, poisoned, beaten and then lied to about that. You are not a scientist. You are not a doctor. So when it comes to being accusing someone of being a follower. . . just shut up and look into the mirror.
On top of that, there ARE things that WILL cure and prevent it and they're keeping us from knowing about them or talking about them and "MAKING US" take their fucking shots!!
Finally.. 😍😍😍😍😍 I want to thank google and youtube for doing this..
Can they remove all the conspiracy theory and lizard human and alien crap too..
YouTube is accessible to kids.. And such information disrupts their minds..
These kind of stuff should only be exposed to an individual after age of 20 and left for them to decide what's right and wrong... After they are well educated..
It takes courage. Because the backlash about what Google is doing with its own property is insane. Well, actually this is beyond insanity. These folks think they can tell Google what to do with its own property.
It continues to amaze me how so many people, people who should know better (like those who run a multinational company like 'YouTube') fail to realise that when you try to ban something because it is, in your view, "misleading and wrong", that it only encourages people to dig deeper into the reasons why, and leads what would be otherwise disinterested persons to believe there is much more going on, that you have "something to hide". The execs who came to this, quite baffling and rather idiotic, decision, obviously know nothing about basic human psychology. All those who have been banned will simply go to the alternatives to 'YouTube' and post there, as will their followers, resulting in a net loss of customers, and therefore revenue for the company. Maybe those at the top truly believe that 'YouTube' is invincible and indispensable, but other companies that were just as big in their time (ex. Kodak, Pan-Am, MySpace) made the very same mistake, and because of their disdain for their customers they are now no longer around. You don't disprove a theory or hypothesis (ex. "vaccines cause autism") by forcefully silencing those who espouse it. This is just another example of someone basically saying, "I can't refute your arguments, therefore I'll simply deprive you of your platform, take away your ability to speak". It's childish, it's hypocritical, and it's counter-productive.
"You don't disprove a theory or hypothesis (ex. "vaccines cause autism") by forcefully silencing those who espouse it."
No, you refute it by following the science, finding that there's no correlation, and that the author had a financial stake in a competing vaccine. That was all done 20 years ago. After a while, it just gets beyond a joke. At some stage, it's worth banning the snake oil salesmen so that their lies will kill fewer people. If they had real proof, they'd have been listened to.
It is amazing to that you think the anti--vax crowd can be reasoned with. When the very basis of their ideology is to forego reason, logic, respectful dialogue, critical thinking, etc. How can you reason with a zealot? It is better to just forget them and focus the user base that actually responds to reasoned debate.
Here you are pissed over a business decision made by a business. Just like you or anyone has a right to tell a business what policies it can or should enact. If the business decision fails, then youtube will fail. If you guys hate it so much, create your own platform and create a space where lunacy, insanity, violent, vile, disgusting rhetoric can thrive. Youtube made this decision because the anti-vax nonsense is leading to the loss of human life.
I will never understand your views. Youtube owes no one anything in terms of an explanation. And if your business model of "free speech" can/would succeed, then platforms like parler, GaB, 4chan, should start beating it hands down.
But we know they won't. Because there is a word that describes such platforms;
Roland - the "anti-vax crowd". Is that how you see people who simply don't agree with you, because they remain to be convinced, because they're not quite sure that what they're being told is actually the truth? I'm not "anti-vax", but I DO have serious doubts about the effectiveness, necessity and safety of the ones that have been developed to counter this particular virus. Is that really such a bad thing? "When the very basis of their ideology is to forego reason, logic, respectful dialogue, critical thinking, etc. How can you reason with a zealot? It is better to just forget them and focus the user base that actually responds to reasoned debate." NONE of that is true, none of that applies to the people that I have personally met. Online you will meet all kinds of strange people, but that's only to be expected.
You keep saying "you", "you guys", "you people". What the hell does that even mean? To whom are you specifically referring? The so-called anti-vaxxers? I'm not against vaccinations per se, and I don't believe that vaccines cause autism, so I don't know what the hell you're going on about.
"If you guys hate it so much, create your own platform and create a space where lunacy, insanity, violent, vile, disgusting rhetoric can thrive. Youtube made this decision because the anti-vax nonsense is leading to the loss of human life." - Roland Oh puhleeese, don't be such a drama queen! The only lunacy, insanity, and vile and disgusting rhetoric I come across tend to be from those who cannot accept personal choice and responsibility, and wish for Big Brother governments to take care of them because they're far too inept, incompetent and infantile to face life on their own and without the "helping hand" of the State.
"Then why does GaG ban people?" - Roland You would have to ask them. GAG isn't 'YouTube', they no doubt have different rules. However, I have noticed that people can more freely express their views here, even if those views are clearly wrong or just plain eccentric. I wouldn't be banned for pushing the view that the earth is flat, for example (not that I would, because I don't believe it is), and that's how it SHOULD be. Why? Because bad ideas need to be exposed to the fresh air of constructive debate, otherwise you will just wind up looking foolish, like someone who needs to use the heavy hand of censorship in order to counter arguments you don't personally like.
@goaded Okay, let's assume for argument's sake that "they" (the "anti-vaxxers" I presume) are lying. The best way to counter lies is to expose them, to present evidence that demonstrates that the claim (s) being made are false. Agree?
@kc_4308 Yes, like 'Bitchute'. I'm surprised people like Roland don't seem to know about them (or maybe he thinks alternatives to 'YouTube' are irrelevant, I'm not sure).
They can’t @Rschelspiks because they use the same narrative the heard from somewhere else or what their Tel lie vision told them! They want us to tell them where we got our information from ! Nope 👎 lol they need to do their own research ! Every claim and document is in my back pocket !
You cannot dictate to a business it can do with its own property. That is the founding principle of American democracy. I mean if youtube was subsidized, you could say something maybe. But all of you kept your mouths shut when the banks took two trillion from the American taxpayer and then fucked us up the ass.
At this point there is no rational basis for a debate.
"... all of you kept your mouths shut when the banks took two trillion from the American taxpayer..." All of which is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Why are you now trying to change the subject? Yes, we know 'YouTube' can run their business the way they see fit, but I would have thought that the objective of any corporation would be to attract as many customers as possible in order to maximise profit, not go on some crusade to try and influence public opinion on scientific and social issues. Anyway, you did ask the question "How do you guys like it?", so I've answered that question, and my answer is that I don't like it at all.
No, I don't agree. The best way to counter persistent lies, especially if they will predictably result in harm, is to deny them a platform. Not to publish them. They can stand on a street corner and rant, or set up their own websites, but there's no reason to lend them credibility by publishing them.
Freedom of speech is the freedom to say something, it's not a right to other people's resources to amplify what you say.
@Rachelspiks @goaded How can it be irrelevant? I mean wow.
Do you know the difference between a taxpayer subsidized private business and a business that takes no money from the government? Like my consulting business. I do not take a dime from the government. Why on earth should it be able to tell me what to do?
Then you jump to this view. . ."attract as many customers"? Uhm, their customers are advertisers.
Does anyone here know how youtube works?
What in the world is happening here?
The CEO of Apple is Tim Cook. He is gay. If he saw some insane crazed homophobic nonsense on youtube, He would tell youtube, "you know that 2 billion I gave you guys last year? Well, I am pulling all advertising if you guys don't get this crap off your platform."
You do not pay youtube a dime. As for folks who are homophobic, racist, sexist, crazed, anti-vax etc. . . they don't pay youtube a dime either. Youtube gets its money from the corporations and companies that advertise on it.
So when it is attracting "customers" that ain't you. Besides the fact, if you owned a restaurant, you, Billyballs, etc. would ban folks you claim to be liberal from your restaurant. That isn't just allowed, it is the very basis of our Constitutional rights. Maybe you can't stand their politics. Or maybe you have made a business calculation that if the vast majority of your clients agree with you politically, you don't want to lose their business because they don't like diversity. That is a business decision and the government has no place in meddling in a private business affairs. Except to protect rights and freedoms.
@BillyBalls No, I believe you are a racist because you are a racist. Not sure what that has to do with youtube doing whatever it wants with its property.
@goaded I want to do this publicly because goaded, you keep giving these guys an off-ramp to victimhood which is their favorite tactic. I do not agree that they should de-platformed.
You are European. You live in Germany. So I want to take moment to re-explain the difference between Europe and America, even as @billyballs and @rachelspiks do not know what those differences are.
Germany is built upon Germany culture, Germany history and the German people. That forms the basis for a general consensus of Germans when it comes to racism, anti-semitism, etc. So I can generally understand that Germany would legally ban certain ideas and philosophies.
That ain't the United States.
The U. S was formed on the basis of an idea, not on the basis of a single culture. In the beginning there were Germans, British, Scottish, Spanish, Irish, etc. . . created a nation that allowed for all Europeans to exist here with their culture and religion intact, free from government interference. It took a couple of centuries to extend those same rights to "Blacks", American Indians, women, etc.
But that core concept still remains.
We do not have this issue of consensus in the United States. You seem to think that Youtube would ban anti-vaxxers even if it were profitable. I can assure you that's not true. Which is why facebook is having such issues right now. The people you are arguing with switched places with liberals by claiming they are victims. Because it was just a short while ago, liberals made similar arguments. Unpopular opinions should be de-platformed universally. Now theses folks say unpopular opinions should be allowed universally.
And those concepts clash with the principles we defined the Constitution.
@RolandCuthbert "You seem to think that Youtube would ban anti-vaxxers even if it were profitable."
That's not quite it. I think that, even if their customers are advertisers, running out of their product (eyeballs) would hurt the bottom line, and being known as a place that promotes dangerous conspiracy theories *might* have that effect. (On the other hand, various TV channels are just a flood of "Aliens built the pyramids" nonsense, but at least that doesn't lead people to attack vaccination centres or convince them they're safer taking random drugs than a simple vaccine.)
(When I responded to @billyballs, I wasn't referring to this particular old thread, just saying that disagreeing with you doesn't result in you calling someone racist, it has to be something racist.)
You can say pretty much anything in Germany except incitement to hatred (of a "national, racial, religious group or a group defined by their ethnic origins"), which includes Holocaust denial. There are six million good reasons for that law.
@goaded I am not saying that isn't a perfectly good law for Germany. Did you read what I said?
Why is that law in Germany but in the U. S? Because of Germany's history with killing six million Jews. It is one of the defining moments in German history. It makes perfect sense to pass that law given the context of the experience of the German people.
But you keep projecting universally, what is perfectly fine for Germans isn't necessarily fine for Americans. The genesis of American society came out of this need for freedom of religion, freedom from government intervention, and the ability for people to have representation in the government that taxes them.
These ideas compete with our disdain for racism, discrimination, anti-semitism, etc. And we have to strike a balance. I have attempted to explain how we did that for several posts.
Anti-vaxxers can't be de-platformed in America. They have every right to create their own platform and spout all the nonsense they choose. The point is that youtube isn't making some political decision as everyone pretends. If anti-vaxxers brought in revenue, we would be singing a different tune.
So youtube made a business decision. Is it profitable to keep nonsense. . . or get rid of it?
That's why the government has to stay away from a company's ability to make its own decisions. Sometimes it will support a moral outcome. Sometimes it won't. But we hope that in the grand scheme of things, we get on the right path.
Thank goodness. It's dangerous information with 0 real evidence being scrubbed from a major platform. It drives me crazy they cling to the same easily disproven articles that get passed around and do 0 real research into it (and no, no you didn't do real research because you aren't an actual scientist now are you?)
I'm sorry, but these people who post from Fox News, Facebook and blogs and quote it as the gospel are terrifying in their ineptitude. I'm all for your decision not to take it. The government shouldn't be able to force it on you, just like they shouldn't be able to force you not to do something with your own body (I see you pro-abortion and transgendered folks) , but please don't justify your reasoning on social media with the most inane and easily disprovable links.
These people were responsible for huge numbers not getting vaccinated for measles etc and guess what, large measles outbreaks and kids dying or having long term complications.
it’s laughable were people say they don’t trust government but by default are trust a struck off and discredited English Doctor.
oh and these two with their other members are making lots of money out of it
Freedom and of speech hasn’t ever been free, people have died for you to have that right in the first place or so we have been told, the true part of that is they don’t give a crap about you or I, war is war… soldiers are money, that’s all it is, don’t believe me? Go look at how we treat our veterans…
And freedom of speech doesn’t apply to Private owned social media platforms, read their policies…
Also Why would anyone fall into the Pfizer trap? Pfizer has caused so many deaths over the years, they are equivalent to big tobacco in death percentages.
The fact that people buy into what the media tells you what to do is ridiculous. The same media that lies to you every single day, the same media that manufactures hatred and racism for their agendas whether it’s Super Left CNN or Super Right Fox…
Both Media platforms are sponsored by PFizer…. Hmmmmm makes you wonder….
I’m not political in anyway, I just point out the hypocrisy among both sides.
I think he made the right choice, but the damage has already been done. The only way to convince them otherwise is to show how anti-vax content is misleading, but then again even Donald Trump's newfound support for the vaccine is failing to convince them
And it was courageous too! Anti-vaxxers and Covid-deniers are violent folks. They think they can actually convert folks by threatening them.
Isn't it amazing? That here they are, the only believers in the truth in their own opinion. Yet they go insane because we would have the nerve to disagree with them. You would think they would be at peace knowing they are the only ones who know the truth.
Nope!
Because miserable people are happy only f other people are suffering and being miserable with them.
I know! it's so crazy 💀 Sometimes there are those who are easily paranoid too, and they get caught up in the anti-vax frenzy. It is hard to accept things when you are living in fear especially when anti-vax people are spreading misinformation with lots of confidence. I know someone who told me people are inserting chips into our bodies through the vaccine, and it sounded like she was fully convinced that was true
Anti-vaxxers and their moronic theories is frustrating. I'm so sick and tired of them yapping about "freedom of speech" and all, wtf? so spreading the virus and killing not only themselves but others is "freedom of speech"? They're a bunch of nincompoops.
Downvote me mfs, if you choose to die, then I dont give a flying fuck! Let's take it as natural population control
You have seen this insane crowd here. I actually worry a lot about you being exposed to such insane nonsense here. And these folks want access to legitimate platforms to flood them with insane nonsensical mythology and lies.
It did take a long time. But it takes courage to confront this new extremist element within our society. They are violent. They are committed. They are miserable and they want company.
Oh what a relief! I wish GAG would do the same. At least on there I won't have to hear those crazy idiotic conspiracy theorists spreading lies about the vaccines. Downvote me all you want motherfuckers I'm tired of hearing your garbage
I don't like it. Not because I'm anti-vaxxer, but because censorship doesn't make sense. I don't care how many flat earth videos there are on youtube, I'm not going to start believing in flat earth. And I don't like to be treated like a dumb kid who would start believing.
Censoring conspiracy material only grows the belief in conspiracies. Like "Of course they want to hide it, because they don't want us to know about it", right? And I don't blame people thinking like that, because it really is suspicious if you need to censor and hide information. If someone is talking crazy things, you don't need to silence them. Just debunk them with logic.
Yeah I get that, they can do whatever they like. I can also make whatever rules in my house I like, but I can't complain if people don't like the rules and refuse to visit. After all, the question was "How you guys like it?"
I never said I think youtube cares about me. You asked a question, and I answered your question. I wasn't answering to youtube's question. You're being really slow dude.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of access. You're welcome to say what you believe, but any personal "right" ends at the point where it causes harm or injury to another party or society at large
Antivax, antifa, Trump, all gained traction because of unlimited access to an underinformed population that was impossible when the constitution was written. Over time the constitution has been amended to better reflect the advances of the day including abolishing slavery and the right to remove an incompetent president from office.
The biggest concern about the internet is the implications for global reach. It's a relief to hear the content will be removed rather than just housing it offshore
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The fact that you’re cheering this shit on says everything about you. You’re just dumb. Cheering censorship on just because this time it’s opposing views to yours that are being censored. I’m willing to bet that you wouldn’t be as quick to praise it if and when it’s your opinion, thoughts or reality that is being censored. You think censoring people will make their thoughts and opinions go away? Think again. If anything, it will make them even harder believers because why would anyone need to censor what they say if they’re not hiding anything? Why not just adress their arguments and let it be. If you need to censor and shut up your opponents to feel you won you lost. Again, you’re dumb but so are the majority of people here I see.
@RolandCuthbert Yep just a bunch of trolls. If GAG didn't have the anon feature I wonder if they would be saying all these insane and outrageous things
These are the same people ok with being used as lab rats 🐀.. the same ones who say the unvaccinated don’t deserve beds I don’t feel sorry for them when this goes down !
Just wait until this winter 🥶 or the next 2-3 years! For the unvaccinated to wish death on us ! Don’t let that shyt bite in your ass ! I won’t swoop to the level of some of you hateful ass vaccinated people! You have no ideal what you signed up for and I’m a health care worker! So it what it is !
Wait until we bankrupt the economy with all of the workers quitting are you vaccinated people gonna work and keep the economy going - we’re already walking out and quitting our jobs the medical field is short staffed. We will shut America down one profession at a time ! Unvaccinated people aren’t dying stop watching CNN , Fox News sheep 🐑- you sound like a programmed bot ! @ RonaldCuthbert a herd of sheeps
Wait until the winter hits and you vaccinated people start wigging out because you don’t have an immune system because the vaccines tore it down by 35%
Great! I'm tired of these knuckle-heads ruining our world because their dumb asses don't understand science. I'm sure all of them claim to be patriots, but they are the ones destroying the country. Covid is now ravaging rural towns in red states with a higher death rate than urban setting. Hurricanes slam Texas, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, and these people still don't get the picture. God bless their soul, as they would put it.
I don't care that they do not understand or care to understand science. They can build their own anti-vax, flat-earth, lizard alien invasion batshit insane fruitcake forum.
They have no "freedom" to post on youtube, facebook or any place else.
As C-3PO would say, "Thank the maker!". The echo chamber for these crazy conspiracy loons just got considerably smaller. Late, but not too late. As a result, the Kremlin mouthpiece "RT Deutsch" was banned from YouTube. Apparently they didn't like that and the Kremlin is now threatening to ban "German media", whatever that means.
But it is not even that. This ain’t a free speech argument. These idiots are claiming they can use the government to tell Google what to allow on their platform.
There's also the legal issue of unqualified people giving medical advice. There's a current case in the uk of an old man dying after an antivaxer convinced him to leave hospital and abandon treatment.
It's a good thing. Their argument is never "my doctor told me...", it's always "a doctor on the internet says...". These days, it's easy to find one person who agrees with you about something, no matter how wrong. There is, after all, a Flat Earth Society, with members around the globe.
It isn't that hard to see really and it isn't just a wild claim that if a particular vaccine indeed worked then the unvaccinated, who potentially merely represent the virus, would pose no threat to those vaccinated against it. Doesn't seem real hard either to know that an effective vaccine would not already need a booster. The unvaxxed are blamed for it which erases perspective of choice. Flu is equally deadly yet flu shots are optional without any political or otherwise push to mandate them or a mask and the fact that covid is a politicized fight should speak for itself. It's no secret anymore that cannabis has a wide spectrum of medical benefits, proven benefits, but in U. S. it remains banned in the claim it needs further study. Who can tell me the long term possible good or bad side effects of this vaccine? The one that was insufficient the first time around.
@suisuiola They don't like to hear the truth. They know they're selfish but they don't want to admit it. That's why you have all these people downvoting you. Just pay attention to the people who upvote you because those downvoters don't matter
This is more of a page taken from the Saul Alinsky playbook. Take something that is mildly harmful and by use of the media and top elites, make it out to be much much worse than it really is. Push Fear. You see it in Climate Change too.
What's wrong with ratio? It is 7 to 10. GaG is a troll dungeon. Trolls are on equal footing here. They just aren't in too many other places, hence all the whining.
@RolandCuthbert Yes they're a bunch of evil trolls. Do you see the way the anti vaxxers talk about us? They either want us dead or they don't care if we die. Who really knows who they are irl? Maybe they're not even human but just a bunch of bots lol 😂 I'm on here everyday but it's not like I'm on here 24/7. I still have a life bc I have classes I go to, assignments I have to do, and I'm making plans now to hang out with people irl. I'm going to an open-mic tmrw night with someone who lives in my dorm building
Nobody is preventing anybody's "freedom of speech", you can sit in the park and talk about anything you want. That is Freedom of speech.
The "freedom of speech" isn't "freedom to lie" and break Terms of service on private platform. There isn't a single paragraph that would force privately owned company to pread every fake news you say just because you feel entitled enough to breakt it's Terms of Service.
Government wants to keep their backdoors running and google is their favorite slut for that, they'd do anything they're being told to so thats not surprising. I am against censorship of any sorts, even stupidty but who cares. Also, Susan's been working hard to make her platform kids friendly despite them having youtube kids but their bias for what content is legit and whats not is total bullshit. I don't understand why do they even have certain warnings anymore and why not can they put one for stupidity.
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“When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar… only that you fear what he might say.”
What are their motivations and why don’t they want you to oppose them? 🤔 Are the people who have had negative experiences with the vaccines wrong? Is it wrong for them to warn people that they might not work as intended for you?
I don’t like it… this is harmful to our right to free speech and sharing information that can affect us and our lives as individuals. There is HUGE corporate and government overreach happening right now… WHY?
So you’re out here shilling for corporations, when we have individual rights? Who’s side are you on? You and I have the right and freedom to disagree, but you’re willing to give that up?
I am not shilling for anyone but myself. If I create an awesome social network and everyone starts to use it, I will kick out whoever I want. And no amount of whining is going to change my mind.
As Eddie Murphy said, "this is my house. . . if you don't like it you can get the fuck out."
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