you can still downvote videos but you will no longer see the downvotes. What do you think? good idea? bad idea?
"We're making the dislike counts private across YouTube, but the dislike button is not going away. This change will start gradually rolling out today."
for those of us in the gaming community this comes off a little sussy because nintendo just released the N64 to their new online service and they jacked up the priced exponentially and the quality sucks balls and so the video they showed of it on youtube got disliked all to hell. makes us think nintendo might have had a hand at influencing youtubes decision to do this.
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Looks like it has started. I noticed some YouTube videos without the dislike count.
So YouTube is no longer allowing dislikes to be shown anymore. What do you think of this?
By vote bombing/abusing the voting mechanism, the viewers essentially ruined it. I've heard that huge media companies pay youtube to promote their products, but people quickly vote bomb these videos, so this is a method to remedy that, but they'll probably just pretend it's to promote a positive/safe atmosphere or something (which is ok but still disingenuous lol).
Steam, in my opinion, is the best example of a review system. Steam needs you to buy games in order to review them, which stops individuals from buying voting bots and using them to spam downvotes or upvotes (it goes both ways). When you look at Metacritic scores, you'll notice that they're almost always bad, yet steam is surprisingly consistent (except for free game reviews). I suppose it's unique because YouTube is free, but I still think it's interesting. I'd argue that they should go back to their original 5-star system, but people will simply give 1-star votes anyhow, so it's probably best to just get rid of it altogether.
It's strange, I was looking for videos on how to jailbreak my PSP a few days ago, and the downvotes showed me that the current video wasn't up to date so it was quite useful. Another disadvantage is that content creators would be unable to monitor how their videos perform, but I'm not sure if there is a way to obtain statistics from the video editor on the site. However, you can still read the comments, and that's what we'll have to rely on for the time being. Simply voting is a low-cost investment in and of itself, so maybe it will motivate others to remark and provide better feedback. I'm not sure maybe it will help the site thrive and encourage people to engage more with the videos in the future.
As a YouTuber, I think it is a GREAT idea. I remember years back, some dude disliking every video out of hate. He would wait for new uploads just to dislike them. I think developing tough skin is important but dislikes are not invited by the creator... You have a right to like or dislike something but you don't have an inborn right to express that uninvitedly. Youtube has made dislikes officially uninvited. Some videos are misleading for views and watch hours but dislikes are not the solution. Those videos should be removed from Youtube. As a YouTuber though I prefer to not see dislikes. Its like writing a book you put a lot effort into and care into for it to only be disliked and put down. And we wonder why most people never go after what they want in life. At some point I do think you should learn to handle dislikes and opinions of others but starting out it can really mess with your head. And if you don't like my comment, you can suck my grandmothers toes. by the way why don't people allow others to comment anon on their questions?
When YouTube was created and for the few following years, the vote count was shown in the video preview (you could see the percentage of upvotes and downvotes of the video before clicking on it). It was a consumer-oriented policy, valuing the precious time of the user. However, when YouTube was acquired by Google all these policies changed: now the video creators were able to make a living from video-making and this turned into a business. Now you could pay to spread your videos, VEVO appeared, the automatic reproduction of videos was created. During the 2000s, reaching 1 million views was almost impossible. If a rockstar had 100 million views in a music video this was because 100 million people DELIBERATELY searched and clicked on it, there was no engine automatically reproducing the next video without asking you leading to a billion-click-business. I mean, YouTube has been changed: nowadays it is a show, not a pastime. It is a business, not a hobby anymore. And when businesses grow big and stop being flexible, they need to get consumers, as many as possible, so to be fed up
Don't really care shrugs. People who dislike videos are weirdos anyway like people do realise youtube is a place were you sub to content you like and watch stuff you like? So how on earth would be disliking stuff if your watching stuff you like.
Then it's funny how every video ever always has some dislikes. Like some people have subbed to just dislike every video. Okay example of a video i wouldn't like probably any on the trending page of youtube but you think.. i am gonna go out of my way to click on them a dislike them? No i am just gonna go watch what i like.
Of course i haven't. You think i subbed to people i don't like videos too just to dislike there videos? lol. No i am more smarter than that and sub to content i like. If i like it i don't see how on earth i would dislike it. And all the channels in this world i don't like, i just don't watch there stuff. No need for me to waste time disliking everything which is pointless.
So all of them you're subbed you, you've liked every single video they've ever made? There's not been a single content creator you're subbed to that's made 200 vids you thought were good, and the odd 1 or 2 vids you thought wasn't? Because it's that's the case then you are a very exceptional person.
why would out of them 200 videos would one be bad? That don't really make sense if it's the same content on that channel i always liked and why i subbed in the first place...
It's a statistical inevitability that everyone will make a mistake or disagree with everyone about something. If you ask most people that like and dislike video, you'll find most of them have disliked at least one video from someone's content they like for the most part.
I don't watch stuff i would disagree with so not really lol. Somehow i don't think i can disagree with factual scientific videos, or videos on creatures, or videos of lets plays, or videos that talk about updates to games i like. At some point, am i gonna go. No that update is not gonna happen? even tho it is? then dislike the video for no reason? I am gonna watch a thing on about a type of spider and go no that's not what i want the spider to be like even tho it factually is like that so i dislike? I am gonna watch a person having fun playing a game and say no i dislike this video because games aren't fun. Or when Tyson is explaining the sun is white. I am gonna turn around and say NO that's factually correct but i will dislike.
None of this makes any sense. aka why it's never happened.
What if one of their videos is full of pseudoscience? What if one of their videos shows the film crew eating a baby panda? What is one of their videos is boring as hell and nothing like their other much better lets plays?
1. don't happen. 2. i don't even know if that would be allowed on youtube but again don't happen unless i somehow subbed to eat panda's channel lmao. 3. don't happen.
You people must really dislike what you watch to think something bads gonna happen in them videos. Pro tip don't watch and don't sub to who you don't like.
The like/dislike feature is there so can express on if we like something or not. Only people who get butthurt over dislikes are people who are immature and weak.
who's butthurt over dislikes anyway. Isn't it actaully you who is butthurt over the fact of them be removed? a fail to see your logic. To complain about butthurt people while been butthurt.
To see logic one person must posses a few brain-cells. Jokes aside no! I am not butt-hurt over it being removed you're just projecting at this point right now.
"who's butt hurt over dislikes anyway." Calling people wierdo's and putting them in a negative light for disliking a video makes you seem butthurt. This not me just calling you names, that's the impression you give with the way you express yourself.
"like people do realise youtube is a place were you sub to content you like and watch stuff you like?" People find new things on YT every day, and some day they find something they dislike, that's why they press that button.
"To complain about butthurt people while been butthurt."
There is nothing to refute here. Just empty words.
One must see the hypocrite here. You say calling people weirdos is been butthurt. But say yourself is not butthurt by calling people weak. funny. Again the logic of been butthurt to call out another person as butthurt don't work.
But you probably won't figure that one out if you haven't already. Anyway your point is pointless. You can chose to disagree with me but i can do the same. So same moot point leading no where. I know dislikes on YouTube literally mean nothings. But if you wanna keep finding videos just to dislike on go for it. Myself see's no point in that, 100% more effective just to watch things i like and only find things i like. If don't know how to do that with a search button where you can search for things you like then shrugs. And if i did find something not quite my taste it's almost like i can just look for something else. You want the extra step of disliking go for it. Not that anyone cares and i just see people weird and pointlessness in doing it. Just like the disagrees on my comment here, you think that impacts me in anyway you think my opinion changes you think that refilled some sense of purpose to it? Nah lol. But you can think what you want.
I said "if". If all of that stuff happened, and a content creator you liked did create said bad content that's nothing like all the other stuff they produce that you do like, you're saying you wouldn't dislike the vid to inform said creator that their subscribers don't want them to produce content again like this in future at risk of them losing subs?
Your whole reply is nonsense. 99% of what you wrote legit makes zero logical sense. I don't know if it's a language barrier or what but legit none of it makes sense. Also even if the language barrier was not a thing you still didn't address anything I wrote you just deflected my argument, nothing else.
"But say yourself is not butt-hurt by calling people weak" There is nothing butt-hurt about saying that someone is weak if they are incapable of handling the push of a button, what is funny is you trying to make it look like I'm a hypocrite. You're so desperate to view it that way, but I digress.
"And if i did find something not quite my taste it's almost like i can just look for something else." Yes, and you avoid it or you can also dislike it like it's intended to be. Just cause you avoid it doesn't make you any better then the rest of the people. The rating system is there as feedback, if people can't handle the negative then why bother even being on the internet.
@David_Kek Eh it's just If stuff that's not a reality of what happens. it's like saying what If it just started raining cats sure... If. But I'll take it because i get your main point, but here's the thing the amount of dislikes to the ratio of likes almost never matters in that case you speak of let's say i didn't like one type of video they make. But now the rest of the subs all did so let's take an example from just one video i was watching 12 dislikes to 1k likes, let's say i am part of that 12. That would have 0 effect on the content they carry on to make. Plus it's there channel there content my dislikes shouldn't be a thing that changes anything of what they want to make anyway. If them 12 people just don't like what this person is putting out again just don't watch not hard. So no actually i really wouldn't want to inform them lol.
And honestly how a creator knows there doing stuff that don't catch the views is lot more on just the likes mattering. For example you know your doing better if your getting 300 more likes on your videos now. But 12 more dislikes so now maybe 24 dislikes? Effect it has not. The way youtube stuff actually works likes are way more important. So not liking the video and not watching is good enough at showing that it wasn't for you and if it's enough for many people to think it's not for them that channel will lose watchers. Not because of dislikes though just by people not liking or watching.
Also would just like to point a fun fact out, No one can see how many dislikes are on people's comments on youtube and it's been like this for ages. Yet i don't see people complaining about that. It's almost like it happened and it didn't effect anyone and no one cared. Not a surprise to me at all and same thing will happen here. It will change nothing shrugs.
Ok, take that example. A video of 12 dislikes to 1k likes. That creates a like to dislike ratio of something like 100 to 1, meaning out of your audience only 1 person out of 101 people disliked your content. In that situation i guess that tells you that you're doing a good job, knowing you won't please everyone. Now let's say after 20 videos your views start going down, even though it's the same type of content. Happens all the time, the consumer changes and desires something a little different, even by only a little. In that situation in order to stay competitive, they need to experiment, and in their experiments lets say they do two videos that both get the same amount of likes and views as their old content. However, one gets 20 dislikes, and the other gets a 100, that means the percentage of their audience that dislikes their new content has gone up, one much more than the other. Before it was 1 out of 101, and now it's either 1 out of 51, and 1 out of 10. On the surface that doesn't seem like much, but when you look at it from that perspective it makes a hell of a difference. Now it's up to the content creator on whether or not they care about how inclusive their content is or not, maybe they're happy being smaller than they could be. However, if they're not happy being small, and want to be as successful as they can, they can't do that if they don't have that data. In this example, from this creators perspective both of these videos were equal getting the same amount of likes and views, while without that dislike button he'd be oblivious that one was actually 5 times more popular than the other. Hence he has far less information to judge what way he can make his content the most successful it can be in future.
And that's just looking at it from the creators point of view, not even the consumer. Lower quality content aside via the arguments made above, it also hurts the consumer because they're equally blind when searching for new content. That's not an issue when you already trust someone enough to subscribe to, but not when you're looking for someone new. There's plenty of "how to" videos online, many of whom of terrible quality. How good or bad the likes/dislikes are makes it far easier to judge if you're wasting your time or not. Should i spent an hour watching 5 different videos before i find the one that's actually helpful, or should i spend 5 minutes clicking through all of these different videos until i find the one everyone appears to recommend?
And how to's are all just normally bad, but the one with most likes and first one that pops up is normally the best one otherwise why would so many like it? Again dislikes here matter not.
Them dislikes are still pretty useless compared to just likes and views data. Just from like changes alone you would get that exact data difference but actually better. Tbh i even have knowledge of this due to someone who i watch is pretty open about why he stopped doing a series on his channel and not once was it to do with dislikes. He claimed it was due to the likes just were not close to his other series and while he enjoyed it, it honestly wasn't worth his hours of time into it. Now i don't like this example because you cannot verify and it's easy just to say ah a youtuber told me so. But it did happen 100%.
Now this example of 63 dislikes to 4.4k likes. The other has 3k likes and 40 dislikes. Now what are willing to bet, this youtuber looks at? the mere 40 dislikes or the drop of 1.4k likes. aka why not liking is much more effective. This isn't the one he dropped in fact this is just the same series. But the one he dropped he was only getting about 200likes with 4 dislikes.
You think in this series he really looked at them 4 dislikes and thought wow that's the reason i must stop. Honestly there is just so much showing views and likes matter way more than dislikes but if you want to believe they matter and seem to be the only way to tell the creator it's not working that's your choice, But i 100% don't.
Yes, they are all normally bad, with few good ones that are helpful. How are you supposed to find the helpful ones without the like dislike ratio or watching all of them? If a small creator with almost no following creates a much better video than one who's already large, how exactly are people going to know that if they're judging whether or not it's worth their time watching if this person has no likes to begin with? Seriously think about that, you're claiming people should decide based on how many likes a video has, so how on earth do the talented small creators get a food hold in the first place if people aren't watching them because they've got much fewer likes to begin with?
I've literally just given you a detailed logical reason why said dislikes are very helpful to content creators that want to do better, and instead of addressing it with a counter argument, you've just ignored it with an empty assertion of just claiming "dislikes are still pretty useless". Your response is a non-sequitur.
"63 dislikes to 4.4k likes. The other has 3k likes and 40 dislikes. Now what are willing to bet, this youtuber looks at?" - If he's a successful YouTube that plans on making it to the millions of views one day, he'll look and both and not ignore either, because that's what all the big fish do. Those four numbers are four different data points to learn from, in which both are equally important. Views is about how much attention you're getting, likes is about how much a group in society likes your content, dislikes is about how much others dislike your content, and the ratio is how popular society itself views your content. Ignore the dislikes and ratio, and you're ignoring 50% of the most important data you have as have as a content creator.
50% don't account to 4 dislikes to 200. Or 50% to 3k to 40 dislikes. That data of dislikes is so irrelevant it's funny how you really don't see that. It's like a person saying welp because one person is dislikes coca cola that's the thing they should cater to... when that one person makes zero difference to them. I am pretty sure at this point you don't understand how businesses work. There will always be a couple people who don't like it. The overwhelming amount that like that keep the sales coming in is what matters. aka the likes matter. Not the dislikes.
At this point it's a waste of time trying to debate with you, for the sole reason you have no counter argument to my argument, only the assertion it's wrong.
You just deflected my whole argument and discredited the points i made and proceeded to block me. It just further proves my point that you clearly are butthurt. You're incapable of actually coming up with a valid argument so you just proceed to write a nonsense answer and then block someone just so you can have the last word. You truly are a pathetic person that can't handle different opinions very well and if I knew that from the get-go I would never interact with a person as dull as you are.
@SneakiBreeki Don't worry about it, I've met plenty of people just like him. In my experience it's best just to give them the benefit of the doubt until you are sure they're purposefully arguing in bad faith whether because of their ego or sensitivity, and then just walk away. Arguing with people like that is genuinely a waste of time that doesn't accomplish anything productive.
I didn't block to get last word i said clearly i didn't want to go around in circles but tbh now your both doing that. So that''s what it's about nothing else. Not ego or whatever else.
Personally I would have to disagree with you on that, the dislikes is normally to inform the community to avoid certain things, like spam videos. I've come across random YouTubers and some of the content I watch was fairly decent, there was one video I didn't like so I disliked it cause, it helps the creator of the video understands what the viewers are wanting to see as well. You find dislike to be for the weirdos but Sometimes it's just gives the creator insight to what avoid creating if they want more views.
You really think is has such a big impact on the community of youtube? But how on earth does 200likes to 4 dislikes or 4k likes to 60 dislikes, impact the community massively? These dislikes are small trivial numbers that nobody cares about, it impacts more for a youtuber just to notice he is getting less views and less likes.
"who really made a level 1 account just to reply."
If you check all my accounts then you would know that they were made months ago. I got like 2 alt accounts in total in case I forget the login info on one of them, all it takes is one press of a button to switch to a different account, I wouldn't go trough the hassle to create an account specially for you (you're not that important). You're trying to make it like it's a big of a deal. You blocking me is the equivalent of disliking a video, you could just avoid it if you disagree like you said but you're not ignoring it, you decide to discredit someone and silence them cause you disagree with what a person has to say. It shows how much of a hypocrite you are.
You avoided my argument and deflected it again, it just proves once again that you're incapable of having a civil discussion. You're using cheap straw-man "arguments" to discredit someone, which in itself is sad.
You blocking me proves that you can't handle disagreements really well, which makes it seem that you're the exact same person that would want the dislikes to be removed. Considering that you block people for the sake of having a disagreement with them. You can claim as much as you want that you don't care, your actions say otherwise.
This is my last reply since I'm out of accounts, but judging by your character you're going to block me again I assume. Wouldn't be the first time ;)
And he does it again but himself is not aware that he is going around in circles like i clearly stated i didn't want. Funny it's like one has on concept of what that means. And hopefully it is your last so then you finally put an end to this circle that you made even tho i Cleary expressed my wishes not for that. Your the single most annoying person on this site and that's saying a lot.
Odd example since a Janitor needs a mop to do his work. A youtuber don't need 60 dislikes to do his job. But let's see how you can argue that his dislikes of 60 to 4k likes is vital to his job like a janitor with a mop. I'll wait.
Says "Don't really care" then proceeds to write essays upon essays on why the dislike feature is "useless" and labels people who dislike clips as "weird" like there is something wrong with them. It is clear that you actually do care, why claiming the opposite then... smh
Publishers are allowed to turn off comments and likes on a video. They are allowed to make a video private at any time. There is no reason that a no-show of dislikes is universally mandatory, when individuals and companies are able to customize these options on their end.
Actually you can still see the dislikes and it is impossible to turn likes and dislikes off. You can make it where the public cannot see the number of likes and dislikes but the youtube can still see it in video settings.
@GaGirls What kind of sissy is gonna cry about dislikes. anyway... they have to deal with it.. not everything can go their way... Sometimes I fall out of bed in the morning but you won't see me making some company make it so that doesn't happen.. sometimes things don't go your way snowflakes, deal with it
@GaGirls Are you aware by YouTubes own research that taking away the public dislike button, people who dislike it are less likely to push the button? I mean it's just common sense, that if you take away a service, then people stop using it. AKA, the creators can't see the dislikes, because most of them aren't pushed in the first place, giving said creators far less reliable information on how well their content is liked or disliked.
BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD idea. Many youtubers look at the videos of other youtubers within their realm of content. Seeing the number of dislikes on other videos gives youtubers an idea for what to avoid in their next videos. This just took a major tool away from content creators and could result in lower quality content down the road.
This also affects viewers. Time is a limited resource so viewers often use the number of dislikes to determine if a video will be a waste of time or not. Some of these viewers come from major gaming companies like Rockstar, who often look up trends of likes and dislikes to help guide their own content. This ONE action from Youtube will have a negative trickle effect on several industries. At the most extreme, it could have an effect on a portion of the economy. If people who use Youtube dislikes to help make decisions lose this tool, eventually crappier content will be created, followed by people consuming less content/buying less product, which can result in a loss of revenue for creators, which can lead to creators quitting, which could lead Youtube to have less creators, which would cut into Youtube's revenue, which would affect Google.
That last paragraph might sound far-fetched, but it really is not if you truly think about it.
That's purely bullshit. If they want to protect young, new youtubers starting their channel, then sen them to youtube kids. People have to learn how to accept judgement. Of course, in wholesome videos such as "planting trees" "helping those in need", they can take the dislikes off, but I thought that taking the amount of dislikes was enough.
I'm starting to believe they did that so they won't get many dislikes in their rewinds.
Pewdiepie talks about this matter and he makes good points about it too.
It's fucking stupid and the world is becoming a political correct soft baby shit. Makes me not wanna live here anymore. I miss the days when the world was normal and we had freedom. We're slowly having all our freedoms and fun taken away from life. For what?
Fucking soft ass snowflakes need to deal with dislikes. I get them too but I get over it in a minute. If you don't like a dislike fuckin deal with it you absolute fairies 🤬🤬🤬🤬😤😤🤬🤬😤🤬🤬
It's a farce. They claim it's to protect delicate creators, but the public count is the only thing that's hidden, creators still see the count.
I think Youtube is doing it to suppress public dissent to protect governments and large companies when they do something the public dislikes; an unpopular politician, an out of touch advertisement, a bad policy change, etc. They want inattentive people not to suspect anything is wrong, as well as to demoralise dissidents by making them believe they're alone. They are trying to establish an ideological hegemony, an obligatory echo-chamber.
You can still estimate dislikes by assuming an interaction rate from views and subtracting the likes. Eg. 2018 YT rewind, 221M views, 3M likes, ? dislikes -> (221M*0.1 - 3M = 19M dislikes). It's low resolution, requires scale, and could use some tuning for edge cases, but it's something.
I can imagine why they did this but I think it's a bad idea. Just like we have the right of liking a video we also have the right to dislike it. Perhaps they're trying to avoid conflicts between the users, the ones that post and the ones that just comment.
You do but you Do NOT have the inborn right to express your likes and dislikes when it is uninvited; looks like YouTube made it uninvited. And as a youtuber I like it.
No, but removing dislikes. jus so some weaping heart fairy can't handle it is ridiculous,
I'm actually quite empathetic and caring towards people, if someone was being bullied I would stand up for them and tell the bully to fuck off.. but if someone is so soft they cry over seeing a dislike... I think there's a point someone has to learn to have a thick skin and deal with things like that...
Dislikes piss me off too, I see random people disliking my videos for no reason and it makes me angry for a good 5 minutes... But I wouldn't wanna have them removed.. u jus learn to deal with it... Not everything always goes your way.. not everyone's gonna like your video
@GaGirls you are so wrong it's mindblowing. When you put something out into public domain, you *expressly give the right* for others to judge. You are inviting people to judge your work.
She made her own reply to the OP, yet disabled replies to her reply. Hence it's very hypocritical she's prepared to reply to others to tell them they're wrong, yet she's not prepared to accept the same.
You can do it on this site, and you can do it on YouTube as well. If someone is so sensitive that they can't handle criticism on YouTube, they already have the ability to turn off the likes/dislikes ratio, comments and even make their videos private. Anyone claiming this policy has anything to do with protecting vulnerable creators are outright lying, to further their agenda of silencing dissent, which YouTube are more than happy to engage in because a large percentage of said dissent is directed to their main source of income, aka; paid advertisers that have paid a lot of money for it and hence only want positive publicity.
@David_Kek Oh ok, yeah I saw her opinion and I know what you mean. I did know that we could do that on this website/app. " If someone is so sensitive that they can't handle criticism on YouTube, they already have the ability to turn off the likes/dislikes ratio, comments and even make their videos private." - Another thing that I didn't know but it's useful. You seem to know a lot about YouTube so now I understand why this topic is controversial.
I mean i don't know tons, but i know enough. When any business grows too big, the CEOs become so far high up on their ivory tower that they are unable to see the ground even when looking directly down. They genuinely believe this will make the site more money, because they're so far detached from the community that use it, they can't even conceive that this will result in some people to stop using the site over a long enough time frame.
It's not, its been gradually getting worse ever since Google bought it, for likely exactly that reason; being it's in the hands of the collective corporations.
I think it is hilarious and silly. It seems they want to clean up the platform with the least amount of work. I guess the hope is if they eliminate the ability to dislike videos, trolls will go elsewhere.
Truthfully, they should have cleaned up the platform a decade ago. But they were scared that the trolls would leave and decrease the amount of traffic they have. Trollish traffic no matter how disgusting is still traffic. I guess GaG employs this philosophy also. But when the platform became rancid and actual customers started leaving, they faced a dilemma. So they started banning anti-vax and other insane content.
Too little too late in my opinion. Corporations need to start thinking about the bigger picture. Regular folks do not like sharing platforms with disgusting trolls. They have families.
Seems to be that all the social platforms care about these days is what they want to do with Like/Dislike features, including GaG with its own new cheesy and out-of-place emoticons for Liking and Disliking answers.
These platforms put unnecessary focus on these little features but won't get their hands dirty by getting rid of persistent scam and spam accounts, malicious users who have connections with site moderators so they can try to restrict you, and by letting endless talentless and empty-minded women create page after page full of ass photos and whatnot.
It feels that Google, once again, feels that users are too stupid to not let themselves be influenced by what they see. Evident by making only the downvote count invisible.
I would even submit, that this may be somewhat inspired by political views and the upcoming elections in many states. Rotten Tomatoes did similar when Captain Marvel when people chose to voice their opinions through their votes. You look at the White House videos since the Biden Admin currently and they are all pretty consistently mostly negative.
I personally use YouTube to watch how to's and various perspectives and techniques for projects. To me, the Up/Down ratio is a good indicator of the creator's competence due to the fact the viewers tend to be peers and saves me time.
Does me less good than it does more. I don't magically gain more time to screen videos.
In short they have myriad agendas, such as pro-official covid policy. Most of the propaganda videos from tyrannical governments and news media which pay lipservice to this authoritarian nonsense, tend to have downvotes that are literally 10x as many upvotes.
The question of what they have got to hide is indeed a pertinent one. They don't want to know that a mass of people strongly disagree with their policies.
It's obviously being done to cover up the fact their favored political commentators and narratives are getting ripped up and down, given the timing. The concept of "getting ratio'd" is nothing new and could've been addressed at any point in the last decade, and if their concern was really about mean speech or hurt feelings, then they'd remove comment sections- or do absolutely nothing since the channels themselves already have the ability to do those things if it really bothers them. All this really does is create an avenue for a dumb talking point where for a hypothetical example they could state how popular a new regulation or movie is because over 50,000 people have "liked" the official announcement video while covering up that say 300,000 have downvoted it, which would completely undermine their argument.
The propaganda they want to ram down our throats regularly gets ratioed with thumbs down. Since they don't like the criticism, they just eliminate it, rather than change their behavior. We have moved into some seriously despotic and tyrannical behavior and so many people are duly unaware that it is even happening. Look at what rights and freedoms you took for granted 5 years ago and look how much of it you lost and it should astound you. Slow rolling it makes people not notice until it's too late.
I'm hoping this is just a ploy by YouTube for more publicity, and they don't actually intend on doing this. Because if they do go through with it, they'll be no point using the site anymore. Imagine if Amazon took away your ability to give public negative reviews, why on earth would you still use it as opposed to buy from others? One of the reasons Amazon and YouTube are successful is exactly because they give that priority of service to the consumer over the feelings and interests of the creator. Without the ability to publicly argue and criticize, YouTube will just turn into TicTock or Twitter, aka low quality garbage.
I still see the dislike button and the amount of dislikes or likes it shows for a video on YouTube. Unless it will be slowly implemented for all videos in the future. How I feel about it? Honestly I think with social media or YouTube for that matter the replay back button should not be allowed because that is where hate starts and it becomes an avalanche of hostility. I'm okay if the dislike button is not shown anymore. There can be a video online that predicates on truth and good values but people if there are 10,000 dislikes and 5 likes that also indicates people may just go with the flow and dislike a video for the sake of disliking it anyways because others have.
Are they afraid of something? Maybe about the fact that majority of people don't believe in their dozens of different agendas? Oh yeah, China with its internet firewall and censorship is the pure evil, right? But our private corporation censorship is for good not for evil. lol
its apart of mind/thought control. if you are pushing good ideas then there is no reason to not have it remain as it is. I dont know much about Rumble or Locals or Bitchute but maybe its time to check on of those out. YT been going do the sh*ter for years now. First with upload restrictions, then the sheer volume of ads, the copyright strikes, now this.
It's cowardly marketing. They don't want advertisers to see negative perception of their site, so they are silencing anything that doesn't pat them on the back.
Frankly, if you ran ads on a site that embeds youtube videos and enabled dislikes, you'd make a lot of money for very little effort.
It’s bad. Whether it’s news, political, video games, product pages, movies, etc. Not one site that’s gotten rid of or hidden downvotes has become a less “toxic” platform. Now if anything people are just going to comment “dislike” and bury other peoples opinions in the comments.
I guess it's both good and bad. I don't know how I feel about this. I don't like it because I would keep wondering if I upset someone if I post something that someone doesn't like. I'd want to know who disagrees with me. But otoh, it also feels good to not see those downvotes
The only purpose the Likes and Dislikes serves is to give YouTube an idea as to whether or not suggest the content to other viewers with similar interests. I have had to dislike videos in the past, and honestly the only reason I would Dislike is to advise YouTube that my personal recommendation is to NOT suggest the video to others.
Absolute fucking restarted idea. Dislikes are there for a reason. When people dislike bomb a person, they only do it for a few weeks or so then stop caring. If I see a video with a considerable amount dislikes I know something is up. There's tons of scam videos and links to viruses and if a video is downvotes into oblivion I'll know it's a scam. But literally nobody wants the dislikes gone. If you can't handle criticism or dislikes you shouldn't be a creator period. The real reason behind this is political censorship just like facebook. These platforms have become weaponized by the government
Also how's a creator gonna get feedback on a video now? Nobodies gonna even use the dislike button now. Most people don't want to comment so the dislike system was an easy way of giving that feedback
Just another way for politicians and corporations to push out their propaganda now 🤦 oh no we can't let other people see all the dislikes and down votes our videos get! They should only see the up votes! Such moronic world we live in. Honestly every should stop using YouTube and move on to a different platform
""We're removing the dislike count to protect the creators, but they can still see the count themselves.""
In what universe does this make sense? Who came up with this? Actually now that I think about it, I'd like to applaud to YT. They are one of the only companies that allow legit retards to be in charge and make decisions.
Smfh (facepalm) what is this world becoming. Fuck me... What a bunch of soft ass fairy girl scouts this world is becoming... I don't wanna live in this world of fucking soft ass weak idiots anymore (ours gun to head)
It's just fucking stupid. I both feel like laughing and being angry at same time. I could kill who ever puts these sissy ass dumb rules in place :(. 🤬🤬🤬🤬😤😤
I never judge a video by its like/dislike count, so it really doesn't matter to me. Dislike/downvote features in general just enable hate and hate-brigading, so all they really serve to is allowing the censorship of an opinion which a person should be free to have.
It really just is a decision-making form for YouTube so they don't have to work. Basically all it does is alert YouTube as to whether or not to recommend the video to others.
The bullshit continues first you could not say what was true without it be taken down some one was offended on the left but what was offensive to the right stayed now you can like something but cannot dislike it. Evrn if it was that someone used a speed wrench in their lefthand and not their right give us a break
It’s good step because there are sick people that like to give dislikes on anything just like that. Some You tubers work hard on their channel and make good videos then you see those idiots giving dislikes for no reason and that can be reflected badly on the youtuber.
I don't know though there's a lot of videos on yt that are just scams/a little too clickbaity and when im in a hurry looking for something specific a like/dislike ratio can tell me whether or not i can trust this uploader with my time.
Yeah. Some guy use to do that to me. Just dislike out of hate. People sub to people just to dislike as soon as an upload happens. I think developing tough skin is important but it can be hard to handle.
They’re saying that they’re doing this to protect small businesses but really it’s more about political influence and censoring dissent than anything else. There’s no other reason for why they would, certainly not because of video games.
I had this happen in the mobile app for a while, it had a negative effect on how i perceive the video's. If a video has less than 1 thousand likes i assume its a very disliked video before seeing that it only has a limited number of views.
I don't think this is specifically nintendo, its the corporate news channels, advertising brands that do woke stuff and the whitehouse they don't want to see is massively unpopular. Websites like 81m. org track the real dislike counters for that channel so faking it is no longer possible for them.
Since I use the likes and dislikes to find the potential red flags of a video, I don't think it's a good idea. So as a result, I'll probably end up watching less youtube.
They just got sick and tired of all the crap that was getting ratio’s. I guess they figure if nobody can see it they’ll stop disliking ridiculous crap! I hope it backfires!
I think it's very stupid. I'm aware there are trolls and haters who dislike videos for no reason at all, but for me it's usually an indicator if a video is helpful or not (usually for tutorials, recipes, and stuff like that)
YouTube didn’t decide to do this - as you suggested this came from corporations who can’t use “review bombing” as the reason their shit gets downvoted anymore.
Doesn't the fact a YouTuber already has the option to hide likes/dislikes, comments or even the video itself, kind of make that argument moot? This isn't about protecting some people, since those people are already protected. This is taking away everyone's right to criticize, including for creators that are ok to have said criticism against them public.
@David_Kek i also said people are very influenced by it and dont form their own opinion but its not like my opinion on this is very strong, its just frist what came into my mind
They said they'll be removing it gradually, so it won't happen right away, likely in some small pockets one at a time to see what happens. It's possible they'll cancel it if it's unpopular enough.
Oh this just panders to the everyone's a winner society, in that case they should hide the number of likes too. The world has negativity in it, smoothing over it doesn't make it go away.
It doesn’t make any difference to many. Whenever I consume any content on YouTube, it is extremely rare I ever comment, like, dislike or do anything like that. I think I have about 6 videos liked over the laat 9 years or so. So for me, it makes no difference whatsoever
Trolls and hate? Why do people put the dislike button into such a negative light. Just cause i disliked a video doesn't mean I'm trolling or hating, I'm just disliking the content.
I think all websites will do away with the downvotes, just look at G@G you can give one a dislike emoji but that's about it, I think it happens, and nothing we can do
= Easy to manipulate the number of dislikes to promote a disliked video or hide a liked video based on who made it and what it is about. YouTube will definitely not abuse this to further its political agenda. Definitely not
I can't see YouTube doing this for just Nintendo. I'm more willing to believe media companies did this. Suffice it to say, horrible idea. Time to start looking at alternatives like Rumble or Oddessy.
Imagine if we time. travelled back to 2005 and said "in the future they're going to remove the dislike bar" and the 2005 people asked why and we said "because some soft snowflake people on the internet can't handle it and cry about it"
Do you know. how hard they would laugh? It's ridiculous how soft the world is becoming, you can't take a dislike? Wow... Grow up... It's jus a fucking dislike... Why do they take it so personally and take it to heart so much? Who cares... They need to develop thicker skin.. absolutel fairies
Maybe we all should be a bit nicer to each other. People say they are just being honest, but as Shakespeare once said, judged by his merits no man would escape the lash.
Don’t want to butt hurt anyone anymore. Just like little kids playing sports. Everyone gets a trophy! No one looses anymore. A down vote would be a lose!
Listen bruh imma keep it a buck with u. If I wanted to know how to not fail no nut November then imma look at the dislikes to see if that individuals’ advice is even good to begin with
boo hoo... soon they will do away with Letter Grades (A+ to F-) in school... that way the laziest person is as good as the hardest working... It's DUMB...
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