Brazillian Jiu Jitsu: Why would you NOT want to learn other techniques?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

For some reason, the BJJ camps ban judo and small circle jiu jitsu before blue belt level. When I took Isshinryu Okinawan karate and Japanese Jiu Jitsu, the first thing they teach you in your first submissions class is the most basic wrist locks, ankle locks, and finger locks along with rear naked choke, cross arm breaker, full arm bar, reverse arm bar. I think those are all taught on your first day of submissions as a YELLOW BELT.

For some reason, the BJJ guys do not want you teaching any of these moves to anyone less than blue belt. I was like, "I'm a Black Belt Candidate in another Jiu jitsu style, and you can't tell me what not to teach somebody when I want to teach them."

i mean seriously, I know over 200 unique submissions, about 3/4ths of them are applied from standing position, before you even get on the ground.

My chief instructor's credentials (then and / now).

then/now

4th degree black Isshinryu / 7th degree

2nd degree black shotokan

1st degree black in Gracie Jiu jitsu

max level Krav Maga.

Combat Judo (unknown level)

And he taught me literally everything he knew. The only reason I never got my black belt from him is because I had to quit for private/personal reasons during the freaking testing.

Anyway, why do BJJ specialists not want to learn any outside techniques?

The whole point of Isshinryu "karate" as a "style" is to study and absorb the best of EVERY style.

[strateguy632]

I would but i am clumsy so as a kid i only learned karate and surprised a couple big bullies who thought a little nerd was an easy target.

One bully tried twice successfully surprising me and almost snapping my tooth against stuff !

both times.

but i was lucky and surprised him with skill despite nerdy.

A third time i battled back a different bully without karate.

Later i learnt israeli touch battle! Meaning hands only against weapons and m. m. a.

Extremely efficient, i only needed to use it once for self defense and quickly tripped a big gym guy before he could use his muscles. Oh and once a guy looked aggressive but i stared him down! I guess he sensed i was ready!

Twice i fled after getting one hit from them. Instead of stay to defend.

[CindyRuns]

I've been involved with martial arts over the years for two reasons.

It's a nice fitness activity and self defense.

I've had to use the self defense side once in my life to ward of some guy who tried to attack me while out running... It proved amazingly effective... I ended up putting my attacker in the hospital. I also had to laugh at what the guy told the police as he was being put into an ambulance... "Please keep that Kung Fu Chick away from me".

From the self defense side... if it will help disable an attacker, it works for me.

by the way, my preferred martial arts discipline is Taekwondo... not Kung Fu

[SeekerOfTruth007]

real karate or even taekwondo has always been taught in combination with small circle jiu jitsu, so it works anyway. Tai Chi and Hinda Andi Gung Fu both tie in well to Shorinryu and small circle jiu jitsu, so that worked for me. I took a 50 hours seminar on Gung Fu and a 50 hours seminar on Tai Chi and around 200 additional hours seminar from Advincula, which covers everything up to 10th Dan in "Isshinryu" karate system, which includes Combat Judo, escrima stick fighting, and more.

[Anonymous]

They are protecting their income. It's always been a buisness model of the Gracie's. In the past the Gracie BJJ has been defeated by Judo practioners. It's kind of like kung fu dojos, they feel other martial arts are a threat to them. BJJ thrived because other stand up martial arts didn't know how to handle their techniques on the mat but Judo does because both are forms of the orginial jujitsu.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Here I explain why you should really master everything. Chuck Norris had that much right.

www.youtube.com/.../uIEUaFvf4BU

[Opinion Owner]

Again that's not why they do it. They've built BJJ by showing gracie jujitsu as superior to all other martial arts, they spent years giving demonstrations on how easily they were able to humble elite karate guys, boxers, wrestlers, taekondo and others. It's why they launched the first MMA UFC tournaments but now they are finding that BJJ guys can be humbled by stand up MMA practioners who have only a little jujitsu knowledge. The way to beat bjj is to not lay down on the ground.
Youtube is full of usually Asian martial arts fights usually kung fu and it's usually a fight vs a different martial art but either it's a fake fight, a purposefully picked opponent who's no good or fixed rules that gives them an advantage and opponent a disadvantage. This is to promote their brand and protect their credibility. I've seen taekondo fighters do this too. And this is exactly what BJJ does as well, can't gracies can't have guys ditching them for judo or judo guys dominating in bjj tournaments.
youtube.com/shorts/COBYjRqQy3Y?si=RAkgmGrNMyQla4bT
https://youtu.be/EAJ2vt8wUbY?si=3EYVmE5Ucjp1orfT