Crash dieting is wrong but so is being overweight (some people think you shouldn't shame people for being overweight), so, whats the real proper way?

[Anonymous]

to deal with food consumption

[Sonorous]

I technically did a "crash diet" (via a psmf) yesterday by eating 997cals. It was mainly fats & protein though & I'm making sure that my weekly average is in a good spot.

They can be brutal on energy levels, can aggravate deficiencies, could make hunger ramp up like crazy etc. But if you're like me & you're dedicated & know how to intelligently approach re-feeds, this approach is great for long-term.

I know that I'm hitting all markers & this approach simply allows me to eat more on most days which is better for my average recovery I notice. Instead of eating in a 500cal deficit per day, I'm eating in a 370cal deficit & then doing one protein sparing modified fast on a second rest day after training. It all becomes even easier if I structure my eating intelligently as well.

But for the average person who isn't as disciplined as I am, I recommend just a consistent deficit where the calories don't vary too much.

[Asker]

No, this is very wrong

[Sonorous]

If it's so wrong, then why am I staying within a healthy rate of weightloss while also seeing results? I've lost 8lbs & counting this year. That's only an average of 400cal deficit per day which is healthy.

[DryGermanGuy]

Reduce the longterm food intake to create a slow, but lasting, weight reduction! Begin with cutting the sugar water and the junkfood.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Crash dieting is not for the long term, which is very strongly not recommended if you want to lose a lot of weight. Listen to nutritionists and find your ideal body weight, which can be on the heavier side. Maybe instead of hating fat people, we can just leave people alone

[Asker]

But it's wrong to be overweight

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

It’s not morally wrong to be fat

[Asker]

Yes, it is

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You’ll have to cite your sources on that one if you want me to buy into it

[Asker]

It's about your morals dude

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

If we’re going by the moral authority of the individual, I say being overweight is not inherently immoral. If you want me to side with you, you need to find a moral authority greater than myself and greater than you that says so

[Asker]

That's the point. It's about morals

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You didn’t understand what I asked you, did you?

[Asker]

I did. I answered. If you don't get my answer, then maybe there's something wrong with you

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I specifically asked you for a moral authority, meaning an established doctrine of moral dictation (ie the bible, the quran, a buddhist monk, etc.), that agrees with your individual moral rules (I’m also assuming you’re smart enough to know what an individual is and how that system of rules is not universal) then I will change my mind and agree with you. You just took that request and said, “yeah, I know the word moral and what it means”

[Asker]

I answered your question. You still don't get it. There must be something wrong with you

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I genuinely don’t think you understand the question and at this point are purposely avoiding it. Fine by me, we all know your fatphobia is rooted in some deep insecurities about your own appearance

[Asker]

Someone's projectingggg

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Says the man who can’t read lol

[Asker]

I've been reading all day, you just don't see it

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Clearly not lol

[Asker]

Someones projecting again/

[itsannalee]

If you like her when she is already overweight, just accept her as she is. You can take her sometime or get her some healthy foods to teach her how to eat well.


If you can accept what she is, just get someone who suits your diet and lifestyle.

[Asker]

This is for anyone, not just someone you're dating