Why Women's day is celebrated but Men's day not?

[dream]

Why Women's day is celebrated but Men's day not?

[JDAC092299]

I assumed men didn’t really care about that holiday and if men don’t why would women right? I personally care for neither of them but I recognise the importance of women gaining their right to vote I believe everyone should have equal opportunity the key word here is “opportunity” tho I prefer to earn what I get just as anyone else should, I don’t believe people should be favoured if they don’t have the ability/skill of their counterparts as that’s an injustice to those who have developed these things.

[Heterosketero]

Seems like most men dont even know about it, why is that? Why do women kniw all about womens day, but so many males here didn't have a clue it existed? I never heard about it school, or my government or, anywjere really until this thread. But I am well awate of Womens Day. I dont think its a huge deal, but it makes me question our politics.

[Heolurt]

There is a men's day but like always no one cares about it so it doesn't get celebrated, and even if we wanted to celebrate it, the celebration of men is considered evil, oppressive (somehow) and not needed. Besides guys don't need a day of fake appreciation, we aren't appreciated any other day of the year, what's one more day? Guys don't need days that put attention on us, unlike females with Mother's day, Christmas, Valentine's day, Father's day, women's day, men's day etc.

Yes I realize I added men's day and Father's day to the examples, I did so because of the females who tend to make those days about women every single year.

[KathrynTaylor]

Every day is men’s day. You get more power, independence and influence, you’re more likely to be believed in a court case in most of the world, allowed in most of the world to do whatever you like and are better paid everywhere.

[Heterosketero]

Is that why mothers win the lions share of custody cases, whether they are the more appropriate parent or not. Huh, who knew...

[KathrynTaylor]

@Heterosketero children often need their mothers. There must be a reason why the judge has them win.

[KathrynTaylor]

and they don’t win custody in most parts of the world.

[Heterosketero]

While this is an excellent point that I certainly agree with, I could not know we were speaking to this in a global manner, in my defense. Most folk are dealing with a fairly skewed cust9dy system domestically as opposed to internationally her in the west. My fatger tried to kill me as a young child, I get the frustration and I loclve my mother, may she rest in peace.

Children need both parents amd a community for a hopeful future, you will never convince me otherwise, and I say that globally.

I know I could have used that.

[Heterosketero]

God damn, why doesn't this site have editting? All thumbs, apologies.

[Heterosketero]

100%, but they need father too.

[devilish-cutie]

I guess because men's day is everyday :D Its a mans world, haven't you heard?

On more serious note its cause 8th march was the day of calling for women's right to vote. Since men had all the right there was no need for man's day

[Heterosketero]

Well said. Might be that we need a mens day though, world is super about holidays for everyone that the whole everyday is men's day just doesn't fly anymore. We would likely even invite women, kind of a sausage fest without them. Lol

[Johnny4473]

1. No men did not have the roght to vote too. Majority of the population didn't have the right to vote until the late 19th century.

2. Men also had to register for draft to have the right to vote. Women avoided that bullet, actually the feminists deliberately avoided that.

And, also pick up a history book. Most people did not have any rights, however only one section of society was treated as fodder.

[Johnny4473]

The pick up a book remark was mean spirited though, i apologize for that

[devilish-cutie]

@Johnny4473 Obviously there was slavery too that included men without rights. I would argue about second point, women werent able to go to war even if they wanted to. Also if men wanted man's day they shouldve fight for it, obviously they didn't felt the need. They only talk about man's day cause women fought the right for woman's day.

[devilish-cutie]

to add you're also missing the point cause discrimination never exsisted cause you are a man, the discrimination was againt your social status/race and you might have happen to be a man, so being a man was never an issue

[SpokenTruth]

www.spectator.com.au/.../

[SpokenTruth]

@Johnny4473 www.spectator.com.au/.../

[devilish-cutie]

feminism is abut empowering women cause being a woman was considered less, dont get it twisted, women never denied men their rights

[SpokenTruth]

Feminism was never about empowering women. I gave the link that reveals the truth about feminism and it's origins by a well know university professor. You can go read it or ignore it. If you don't want the truth then the lie is on you.

[crmoore]

I don't mean to be confrontational, but for you to point to one thing and say "women had it hard because of that, they deserve a day for themselves, unlike men" as if countless young men hadn't been drafted and killed in war who otherwise would have had long and fulfilling lives, just as one example, is, with all due respect, incredibly ignorant and possibly even heartless.

[devilish-cutie]

@crmoore How am i hartless? I never said i dont care about men. Ones who are heartless are men, they are the ones starting the wars and participating in them. As i very well explained womens day was cause of gender discrimination towards women. There is no gender discrimination towards men, men are the ones deciding that other men should go to war, it has nothing to do with gender discrimination. If men feel discriminated they should speak about issues they have, not to trash talk about women celebrating womans rights day

[devilish-cutie]

@SpokenTruth thats an opinion of one woman so we can disagree

[SpokenTruth]

You want to be strong and independent and you don't know what either of them mean. You are following the herd because you have no mind of your own and the devil is your leader.

[crmoore]

I said arguably heartless. Your stance is either ignorant, or heartless. You may not have considered the hardships men have had to face, and therefore you'd be ignorant. Or, you are aware of the hardships men have faced, and you feel as though it's undeserving of a day of celebration, unlike your view on women's hardships and whether it deserves a day of celebration.

Additionally, you're being overtly sexist, right now, by attributing a quality or intention to men as a whole when you said "men are the ones starting wars." That is a generalization. The logic behind this statement is no different than "women are the ones bad at math" or "black people are the ones committing crime." Obviously, statements like these are unreasonable. Plenty of women are good or decent at math, plenty of black people most certainly are not criminals. And as such, plenty of men are not starting wars or participating in them.

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[crmoore]

And yes, there is gender discrimination towards men, as you quite literally just exemplified. You engaged in prejudice, or in other words, discrimination, when you attributed enabling war to men as a whole.

Meriam Webster defines discrimination as "prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment." Did you pre-judge (prejudice) men before knowing them by referring to them as war enablers?

Another definition by Merriam Webster is "the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually." Did you attribute that quality of war enabling to men as a whole, or to individual men?

Not to mention, men sending men to war and not women IS discrimination towards men, as those men are treating men and women differently, more specifically, subjecting men to the life-threatening nightmare that is war.

And I don't know who you're referring to when you say "not trash talk women's day." I'm not trash talking anything, I'm refuting your notion that women deserve a day of celebration while men do not. And as for your "every day is men's day." Does that mean you celebrated men today? Yesterday? What about on national women's day? Did you celebrate men, then? No? I see. Peculiar. It doesn't seem like anybody else did, either, despite men's day of celebration being every day, according to you.

[devilish-cutie]

@SpokenTruth haha like you know anything about me lol

[SpokenTruth]

Like you know anything about bogus female oppression.

[devilish-cutie]

@crmoore you are making conclusions about things i never said, i never said all men or that men dont have issues themselves. I just said women have not generally treated men badly denying them anything as men have to women. I am also saying that men need to battle their own battles just as women fight theirs and not expect women to solve mens problems. Men only talk about their problems when women talk about theirs and that is just cause they have issues with women, not cause they care about their own problems. I dont expect men to bother about my fight to right to abortion, I expect men not to oppose women, same way if men wanted to fight for their right to choose to go to war or not and women not opposing that. When it comes to war majority of men was on top in power leading that so mentioning women that may have contributed is so minor its irrelevant. If you care so much about mens problems I suggest you gather men that agree with you when it comes to war and mans right to choose to go to war etc. whatever you find an issues for you as a man depending on the country you live in instead of talking to me about this.

[devilish-cutie]

@SpokenTruth as a female i couldnt not know, you men dont even get that even nowdays its hard for so many men to see women as just people, not to mention equals

[Johnny4473]

@SpokenTruth you do realize that the first psrt of her comment was a joke right. She literally said, jk.

[SpokenTruth]

@Johnny4473 I'm not following you.

[Johnny4473]

1. Do you think it were women who overthrew the monarchy and fought against dictators to establish a society where people have decent human right, or were it men?
2. Really? If men wanted it they would have fought for it? Look at yourself right now, I'm arguing that everyone was oppressed throughout history and infact the both women and men got basic rights that we all enjoy fairly recently. And your first instinct is to attack me by outright denying that men were ever oppressed because they were men, because in your mind why would men opress themselves, because men are the oppressors.
3. The opression against men is not based on their sex? Really? Divorce courts, Domestic Abuse laws, Rape laws, University and Hiring Quotas, Men literally doing 99% of the dangerous jobs because they have to provide for their family.

Also, lastly, did you really just compared not being allowed to go and blow up in a battlefield, with being forced to do and blow up in a battlefield.

Also also, yes, during the feminists fight for the right to vote, they actively avoided and said no to wanting to sign up for the draft to get the right. So, your statement that women would've wanted to go to war, is absolutely incorrect.

Let me ask you this, why don't any feminist fight for equality in draft right now?

Why is it that you people expect everyone else to be completely selfless and step aside to make everything have equality of outcome, and yet you people wouldn't even fight for equality of opportunity, or accept the same responsibilities?

And men had all the rights? We literally gained the right to vote 20 years before you, only the extremely wealthy... the top 6% were doing it before that and the rest of us were slaves.

Lol, you have absolutely no notion of human history.

[Johnny4473]

@SpokenTruth I meant that your original comment, where you said about her not knowing about yhe bogus movement.

I was pointing out that OPs first paragraph was a joke.

Although having read her reply, boy she sure doesn't seem like she was joking.

Just another typical feminist who've been fed the same taking points without any shred of evidence or logic.

These people literally believe that men have it so easy and women have and always had it so hard.

But i mean, when you reach the point where someone says that not being forced to fight in wars is opression, you know it's needless to argue.

[SpokenTruth]

@Johnny4473 Evidently she believes men were behind all wars: www.thetimes.co.uk/.../killer-queens-are-up-for-the-fight-and-theyre-better-than-kings-v2xw80793

And the truth is it's WOMEN who have taken more lives than all the wars in history and women aren't even done yet.

The number and rate of U. S. abortions increased from 2017 to 2020 after a long decline, according to figures released Wednesday.

The report from the Guttmacher Institute, a research group that supports abortion rights, counted more than 930,000 abortions in the U. S. in 2020. That’s up from about 862,000 abortions in 2017, when national abortion figures reached their lowest point since the 1973 U. S. Supreme Court ruling that legalized the procedure nationwide.

AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO TURN YOUR STOMACH:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Se4Xj0MISHrq/

I never ever want to touch another woman again end of story, PERIOD.

[devilish-cutie]

@Johnny4473 I have never stated not being forced to fight in wars is opression even tho it is denied right to women

I said men could fight for right to have freedom to choose to go to war

and I have clearly stated that I do acknowladge men have their issues however they dont seem to want to solve their problems but rather hate on women for fighting for their rights and nagging them to solve their own. Women are not demanding men to fight for their rights

I hope you all know the history we know about is very questionable, winners write history

I see we cannot really reason here so bye guys, its been fun!

[Heterosketero]

You aren't hearltess, you are critically defensing your point. I respect that. I would say, when women were involved in the 90s in eliminating mens only associations, that did harm men and we can clearly see it a generation on. No mens clubs has led to no privacy in bathrooms, can't have it both ways.

[Heterosketero]

Reading some of these counter arguments makes me sad for what men think they are now.

[devilish-cutie]

Tnx and I agree on what you said :)

[Heterosketero]

Reading below I was reminded, Mes Day is November 19th. We forgot. Because men hahahahaha. Nobody read the instruction or asked for directions...

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It is "sad" because it actually makes sense. When you say that women didn't have the rights to fight for their rights, i just have to remind you that it is actually most women's choice in the first place. Because if that is not the case then they wouldn't really let men not allow them to. And speaking of no rights, men also didn't have the right to refuse because most women don't like to do men's job also because jobs before we're not as easy as jobs today like voting before wasn't as easy as voting today where we can just do online or we have better que system. It's just now that everything is modernized, it unlocked more options for both men and women. So yes you don't need to be a suffrage to vote because everything is just easier now

[purplepoppy]

International men's day is on the 19th of November. The same day as International toilet day.

[lightbulb27]

holy carp, you are right!

[Heterosketero]

Well shit...

[Echosoul]

I'm starting to wonder if that's deliberate 😆

[BubbaSparkx]

Maybe to them, men don't put the toilet seat down. So, therefore it's on the same day, lol.

[Heterosketero]

@Echosoul majority of plumbers are men, except Mario and Luigi apparently... How is Yoshi not asexual, it lays eggs ffs, I have never seen. Yoshi mate, have you? HOT FUCKING GARBAGE

[Nikki1989]

It is on November 19th and always has been.

[Vesuvius87]

Honestly, I don't care about them. Neither of them are even holidays. The only reason I ''celebrated'' the women's international day last year was for my mother. She makes a big deal out of it. My family and I were just doing it for her.

[FreyaRed]

Because men don't get flowers but other less materialistic gifts. Think just a millisecond why those all girls day come in months when roses don't bloom in gardens? It's the greedy florist guild that boosts those girls days.

[RockyHammock]

How interesting, haha, so would that conspiracy be big roses or big florist?

[FreyaRed]

@RockyHammock I'm kidding, but there is a business model behind that.

[RockyHammock]

@FreyaRed oh no, big roses got to you

[Heterosketero]

Profound theory. Please keep us informed :)

[peedy]

Because the government has determined that men are second class citizens
They trying to get us to fight with each other sex, color, race creed doesn't matter because if we are fighting each other we are to busy and we won't see what they are doing

[Anonymous]

There is an International Men’s Day will fall on the same date it does every year – the 19th of November, but every time Its mentioned on social media it gets buried under a blizzard of of anti male posts, if its on twitter it is usually gets buried under UN Pro women posts.

[Dargil]

Because, in the end, every day is Men's Day. We are just patronizing the Karens,... for now. My advice is they should enjoy it while it lasts.

[SolitarySolace]

Because of misandry. You'd think if women wanted equality they wouldn't want a day dedicated to them they'd want one dedicated to both men and women. This just goes to show how hypocritical and selfish women truly are

[Heterosketero]

This user for the win for best use of a proper term in context. Misandry is a big fucking deal. Undermines everyones attempts at equality, not ust womens.

[xHoneyxBeex]

International Men's Day is November 19th... but really, who actually "celebrates" either of these days? Come on.

[Gibbons44]

You know when they get you used to getting it all on a silver plate? And then you get depressed that it isn't a gold plate and you start to neg and abuse about it, feeling all righteous and expecting to get 'empowered'?
That is why.

[Anonymous]

Generally, women get all the celebrations, and men are taught from childhood to toughen up and do work without expecting anything. In modern, educated, and well-off households, girl children get an easier life. Women get birthday treats, parties, and celebrations more often and mostly free of cost.

However, I agree that women in remote areas and conservative areas of certain countries have it harder than men, but those women have no clue or bother to celebrate women's day.

[Wish4UrB00ty]

Lol! Because men don’t remember what day it is… and woman don’t care since they gonna give their guy all he wants later that day anyways…

[AdithyaR]

There is a men's day. Just that weirdly enough men never seem to remember it and the only time they remember it is on Women's day 😂.
I actually take the time to wish my make friends on men's day.

[Heterosketero]

Which day. I feel like you are right and we forgot hahahaha.

[Heterosketero]

Nvm I saw above and yeah, totally forgot about that. Everyday is a day at least once a day.

[AdithyaR]

Men's day is November 19

[Heterosketero]

Gonna have lobster on this day whenever I can...

[AdithyaR]

Go for it bro!🔥

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

I celebrate both but to be honest I don't consider them to be days of actual importance.

They aren't actual holidays.

[DarkLegacy]

It is because thanks to feminism, the world has become largely biased towards men. But i personally support any of these days for various groups. Modern woke nonsense.

[DarkLegacy]

Excuse me, i meant to say i don't support any of these days

[Wade12345]

"All animals are Created equal, but some are more equal than others."

[TrueConfection]

I'm going to need to give my husband the memo about celebrating Women's Day. 🤔

[Anonymous]

Every day is Men's day. If you were a man, you'd know this. You wouldn't need a bunch of twats to tell you "This is the one day in the year allocated to you."

[Razp_Sorbet]

You're a man why don't you answer the question? Why do you not celebrate international mens day?

[Heterosketero]

Eeeee, agressive. Why?

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Heterosketero aggressive? Where?

[Heterosketero]

You're a man why don't you answer the question? Why do you not celebrate international mens day?

I may be reading this as more hostile than you intended, am I wrong? We often lose people meaning in text, perhaps you are asking this in a positive light?

[Razp_Sorbet]

@Heterosketero you should always read text without emotion unless emotion is clearly shown. Was just a question.

[Heterosketero]

Agreed. I have always said that texting could use italics for that.

[Agape93]

No idea. But I find it funny that not even most men celebrate it.