Its not a problem in the entire west, in my country they fixed it by making marrying in common goods an option rather then the default so its less toxic here.
Smart men date for a very long time before marriage. Smart men make sure they have found the right woman, no doubts. Smart men make sure they have a good lawyer and a pre-nup.
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Agreed , but i do not want children so why should I bother marrying?
"A good woman." Is a phrase that should be dropped from the lexicon. What the hell that even means is anyone's guess. "A good fit." would be a better approximate.
At any rate, regarding the shaming... oh yeah. It's hard to miss.
That's not true. I believe people who are bored with their lives get married, being smart or not it doesn't matter. Because if you are willing to marry, then you have to sacrifice your personal life.
That's why I'm not willing to get married, because I have so many things to dedicate myself to, and getting married would stop me from doing these things.
Smart men do get married because then they don't have to hire a hooker, or a maid, or a cook, or a babysitter. Statistics prove that married men are healthier because they have someone to care for them.
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I do not want to live lots of years just peacefull and good years.
By smart I’m assuming successful males like doctors/surgeons/dentists/lawyers, and I agree with you. It doesn’t always happen but they’re busy most of the time and won’t have time to get married. I’ve seen it happen a lot
I tried to be a good woman and my husband didn’t appreciate it. So now I live out the rest of my life afraid to make any real commitment or be anything more than in limbo relationships. Seems like it just doesn’t pay to be the good women anymore
If you can tell me that you didn't had one female crush or girlfriend who made you change one little thing in your life..
Wanting her motivated you.. She was the biggest incentive.. Her smiles were a million dollar reward.. 😂 If you had one such girl!.. Yeah she ain't holding you back but fueling you to go forward
We both know.. Even if they do not become part of our life.. The women we fall for.. If gazes back in our eyes.. She changes us and our world!.. 😂😊😍 Half of us men!.. Imagine their face before going to sleep and get out of our Beds to See that face again!.
It certainly looks that way in 2019; therefore, when it comes to marriage: "The sensible man is careful to look where he is going; the fool just believes." - Read Proverbs 14:15.
the smartest men get married early in life, stay committed and build a family. I guess a lot of smart guys stay single because they are too busy with studies, career, etc
We can never talk in absolutes, the perfect woman doesn't exist. The goal is to find the one thats most compatible and shares the same vision You are already assuming divorce is unavoidable
I wouldn’t say it’s not true but given my dad is a national leader in certain subjects and mixes with many other national/global leaders on things and I know their wives and children I’m going to confidentially say this is bullshit.
Marriage is not about intelligence. It’s about commitment and for some religion.
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How many stable/happy marriages u know? How many good women u know?
I know many. But again, neither of those traits is linked to intelligence.
I know many people in retail jobs/min wage who never never leave them who are happily married. Equally I’m in an unusual position to know many people even cabinet level who are happily married.
(Notice how I linked it back to your question for you. As your follow ups had nothing to do with your original question).
And my follow up has everything to do with my question because clever men would refuse to marry if they end up in an unstable marriage with high probability of a divorce. It seems i am not the dum one.
Well no... people marry for many reasons. Marriage itself is not an unintelligent thing to do,. Marrying beneath you or marrying a potato is the issue. So again; the issue is not marriage is unintelligent, your question is the intelligence between the couple.
A partnership (marriage or not) does not qualify intelligence or unionship. Regardless if you attach the term marriage and just say relationship, it is the bond between two people. You seem to think intelligent people must give each other a quick quiz or something, or they are immune to emotion or tragedy. I’m not saying you’re stupid but you yourself have claimed and proved it.
50 per cent probability that the man will be destroyed financially in a divorce court five to seven years later. Then there is a lifetime as her impoverished slave, via a child-support order and prison if he cannot pay the court-mandated child support. Legally and financially, women have recrafted the legal system so that a man would have to have a death wish to even speak to a female.
No, thats actually not true, in fact being “smart” has nothing to do with getting married... although what do you mean by being “smart” define that and you may recieve a more reliable answer
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With those unequal laws of divorce and children custody in the West , those with a little more brain choose never to get married or have a family. Plus is the false rape accussations and all that.
The likes of Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk were either aware or unaware of what marriage entailed, but they took the risk anyway, “love” makes even the smartest of us blind.
Feelings turn to reason when one is caught under a spell, what are you arguing here? Im not really sure at this point. Is it smart to get married, financially speaking no, but you seem to already know this, so what are you asking?
I think its too broad of a question to answer outright, and would depend on each individual situation and who you’re marrying, But in a general sense, in the west its not smart at all for all of the reasons you already mentioned
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Depends on the country but smart men will not sign their rights away.
In the West.
Its not a problem in the entire west, in my country they fixed it by making marrying in common goods an option rather then the default so its less toxic here.
Well, courts care fuck all about dudes' well-being in divorce cases. So, probably.
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Why should men marry?
Why they have to get married?
Smart men date for a very long time before marriage.
Smart men make sure they have found the right woman, no doubts.
Smart men make sure they have a good lawyer and a pre-nup.
Agreed , but i do not want children so why should I bother marrying?
Yeah and you don't need marriage to have kids and that is another way of getting screwed but that is another story.
Interesting to read the women's perspective in this question.
Anyway... smart men, no. Pragmatic men, 'perhaps'.
Pragmatic men i meant. And most of " women 's petspective " is just shaming , i have not found a good woman.
"A good woman." Is a phrase that should be dropped from the lexicon. What the hell that even means is anyone's guess. "A good fit." would be a better approximate.
At any rate, regarding the shaming... oh yeah. It's hard to miss.
Stephen Hawking was married and he was smarter than you.
I am smarter than my father who got married though.
You're still not smarter than Hawking.
That's not true. I believe people who are bored with their lives get married, being smart or not it doesn't matter. Because if you are willing to marry, then you have to sacrifice your personal life.
That's why I'm not willing to get married, because I have so many things to dedicate myself to, and getting married would stop me from doing these things.
The late genius, Albert Einstein was divorced and he considered himself MGTOW.
Smart men do get married but it would be smart not to be married.
Smart men do get married because then they don't have to hire a hooker, or a maid, or a cook, or a babysitter.
Statistics prove that married men are healthier because they have someone to care for them.
I do not want to live lots of years just peacefull and good years.
By smart I’m assuming successful males like doctors/surgeons/dentists/lawyers, and I agree with you. It doesn’t always happen but they’re busy most of the time and won’t have time to get married. I’ve seen it happen a lot
It is not a time issue , it is a mentality issue.
Most of the ones I’ve met have a time issue, and they think they’ve already gotten too old, so they don’t get married.
Men are far more successful with good women behind them
True. But how many good women do u know? I can personally count the ones i know in the fingers of my one hand.
I tried to be a good woman and my husband didn’t appreciate it. So now I live out the rest of my life afraid to make any real commitment or be anything more than in limbo relationships. Seems like it just doesn’t pay to be the good women anymore
This can definitely be said for men as well.
I know you’re right🤘
I'm far more successful without a woman holding me back
@jessture liar!..
If you can tell me that you didn't had one female crush or girlfriend who made you change one little thing in your life..
Wanting her motivated you..
She was the biggest incentive..
Her smiles were a million dollar reward..
😂
If you had one such girl!..
Yeah she ain't holding you back but fueling you to go forward
I'm glad you know my life better than me... LMAO
Women can never let a guy be who he is. They have a compulsion to try to force men to change the stupidest things.
@jessture well then I Salute to you Sir!.
We both know.. Even if they do not become part of our life..
The women we fall for.. If gazes back in our eyes.. She changes us and our world!.. 😂😊😍
Half of us men!.. Imagine their face before going to sleep and get out of our Beds to See that face again!.
😉
It certainly looks that way in 2019; therefore, when it comes to marriage:
"The sensible man is careful to look where he is going;
the fool just believes." - Read Proverbs 14:15.
the smartest men get married early in life, stay committed and build a family.
I guess a lot of smart guys stay single because they are too busy with studies, career, etc
Or they do no want to get divorce raped.
A smart man would probably know how to maintain a marriage and select the right partner.
Also a smart man wouldn't value money so highly
I am talking about kids mostly. And the " food women " are not enough dor all men ou there.
*" good women ". Good luck if u want to get married.
We can never talk in absolutes, the perfect woman doesn't exist. The goal is to find the one thats most compatible and shares the same vision
You are already assuming divorce is unavoidable
Divorce/ unhappy marriage is unavoidable for most men.
Lol what kind of weird question is this? Of course smart men get married. The most powerful men on earth are married.
Smart men choose more wisely who they marry, and think deeply about the future with the woman.
Dumb guys will marry girls because because of how they look, try to make a hoe a housewife!
I wouldn’t say it’s not true but given my dad is a national leader in certain subjects and mixes with many other national/global leaders on things and I know their wives and children I’m going to confidentially say this is bullshit.
Marriage is not about intelligence. It’s about commitment and for some religion.
How many stable/happy marriages u know?
How many good women u know?
I know many. But again, neither of those traits is linked to intelligence.
I know many people in retail jobs/min wage who never never leave them who are happily married. Equally I’m in an unusual position to know many people even cabinet level who are happily married.
(Notice how I linked it back to your question for you. As your follow ups had nothing to do with your original question).
Also I know how to spell “you” so I’m not sure intelligence is the true goal here
If you think i am stupid it your right. That does not change anything of what I am.
And my follow up has everything to do with my question because clever men would refuse to marry if they end up in an unstable marriage with high probability of a divorce. It seems i am not the dum one.
Well no... people marry for many reasons. Marriage itself is not an unintelligent thing to do,. Marrying beneath you or marrying a potato is the issue. So again; the issue is not marriage is unintelligent, your question is the intelligence between the couple.
A partnership (marriage or not) does not qualify intelligence or unionship. Regardless if you attach the term marriage and just say relationship, it is the bond between two people. You seem to think intelligent people must give each other a quick quiz or something, or they are immune to emotion or tragedy.
I’m not saying you’re stupid but you yourself have claimed and proved it.
Smart men find a decent partner and marry if they wish to.
not true
i think people get married when they find someone they wanna share life with
50 per cent probability that the man will be destroyed financially in a divorce court five to seven years later.
Then there is a lifetime as her impoverished slave, via a child-support order and prison if he cannot pay the court-mandated child support.
Legally and financially, women have recrafted the legal system so that a man would have to have a death wish to even speak to a female.
No, thats actually not true, in fact being “smart” has nothing to do with getting married... although what do you mean by being “smart” define that and you may recieve a more reliable answer
With those unequal laws of divorce and children custody in the West , those with a little more brain choose never to get married or have a family. Plus is the false rape accussations and all that.
Your question was not asking if it was smart to get married, it asked if smart men get married or not, and the answer is that they do, all the time.
Well i meant the later it seems.
The likes of Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk were either aware or unaware of what marriage entailed, but they took the risk anyway, “love” makes even the smartest of us blind.
But those are feelings , not reason. And we saw how Bezos's marriage ended.
Feelings turn to reason when one is caught under a spell, what are you arguing here? Im not really sure at this point. Is it smart to get married, financially speaking no, but you seem to already know this, so what are you asking?
If it smart to get married cinsidering all gains and risks.
I think its too broad of a question to answer outright, and would depend on each individual situation and who you’re marrying, But in a general sense, in the west its not smart at all for all of the reasons you already mentioned
Seeing as bachelor's are the ones driving a the convertible Audi's by the time they are 50 it seems so.