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Lol some of the women here are pretty funny. Smart men marry the right woman?
Ok seeing how divorce rates are high I'm guessing a lot of men don't marry the right woman meaning they must be dumb right? Women are so funny haha...
Anyways you don't have to marry if you don't want to. I knew a few older guys that has kids with a woman and they stay together, but never married.
And if I remember correctly Nicola Tesla never married either. So... It's really up to you at the end of the day to decide whether it's a smart move to get married.
What are the benefits? What are the risks?
The risks definitely outweigh the benefits.
Yeah many don't marry the right woman, but a lot of them do. And I bet you that the half of marriages that work are the smart guys who picked a goog women.
Nicola Tesla was super inteligent yes. But that only make it hard to understand other people. He died alone and insane.
True that. You don't need marriage to have a family and live with the love of your life.
Aside from social benefits and some economical perks marriage brings nothing to the table. But the only downside is the possibility of divorce, if it even happens. So ya it's worth it.
Yes most smart men don't get married. Cause they know what it cost them in a divorce. It's almost always half of what they have. Consider somebody with nothing. Then all of the sudden they get half of man's millions.
This gentleman gets it.
That is assuming it will end in a divorce.
I think it's true. These men know that marriage is just a contract and a way of wasting money with the wedding and later with the divorce.
If you love someone and if you want to be with them, you don't need to get married to prove that.
Amen.
Really smart men marry the right woman instead of some woman they only are attracted to sexually.
It's also stupid to avoid marriage to avoid divorce. That's like anticipating the relationship won't work right from the beginning.
The risk and the loses are too high and the benefits really few.
Well if that's how you see it, then just don't get married.
I guess u do not see it that way.
I don't know if I want to be married myself.
Although it's not because of the reason you give.
I just think it's a stupid mindset not to get married because the divorce is possible.
If you think that then you haven't found the right woman.
I wll probably not find the right woman, cause the percentage if good women in really small. I do not have relationships as well. I am out of the game.
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You just do you.
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Smart men get married because they want to have a secure family unit for their children to be raised in.
It could right to say - smart men do not marry selfish woman who use them for money, lie, contribute nothing to the marriage, treat them bad and refuse to be professionally employed.
But not all girls are like that.
Most women have one of the characteristics u talked above.
Can you explain how a marriage provides a secure family unit?
- Shared goods is bad in bad times because they can collect the debt of both.
- No guarantee she doesn't leave is added.
- No known benefits are added.
- Splitting in the event something goes wrong is easier without being married.
- No guarantee i don't leave is added as i am both loyal and stubborn. But the consequences for me when someone leaves are far worse.
If i could think of the pro's of marrying i might consider it, but i really don't see any.
A smart man might also say having a family is a drag on his potential. So both the wife and the kids distract from true capabilities. Why bother with either?
If the men are smart they just are smart enough to know what they are getting into no matter what the consequences might be if it doesn't work out. Many men jump in head first without really evaluating everything involved and they get kicked in the ass when it goes down hill.
I want to adress this here for the simple fact that Jesus F****ing Crist you guys fell about this topic. Here are some pearls sent my way on this site regarding marriage.
1. "You will lose financial stability"
2. "She will force you out of our hobbies"
3. "You will not see your friends anymore"
4. "You will be denied sex"
5. "She will force you to do stuff you don't want like going to her parents"
6. "She will not accept that you watch porn"
7. "She will cheat on you and you will raise another man's kid"
8. "Divorce will take evertything from you"
Oh I am going to enjoy this... so much! Let's go!
1. We share the house expenses so I actually can save more thank to her.
2. I still have all my hobbies and even play ps4 with her sitting next to me on the couch.
3. I see my bros very often. We both have our friend and we don't stop the other from seing them.
4. Hahahahaha! You know that means she doesn't have it also right? And boy does she like it!
5. I love to visit her parents! Her mother is a great cooker and we always play cards after dinner.
6. Since she actually watches porn with me this one was my personal favourite.
7. No she won't cheat on me. It's difficult for you to believe, but she had guys way richer than me going for her and she refused them. She will always be mine and I her's.
8. We actually have good divorce courts here. That and she is not a gold digger. I doubt a divorce wouldn't fair for both.
The reason many men don't want to get married anymore is because there is no benefit for them at all, but it makes it easier for courts and women to abuse men when it comes to finances and children's/father's rights. The system is very sexist against men and until that changes, less and less men will want to get married.
More men around my age and older have already experienced the sexist system and we let the other men know just what can happen if they get legally married. The wise ones listen and don't get married.
And the good women will understand that they can be perfectly happy, live together, raise a family together, and be exclusive without any need for a legal document/marriage. Only the ones that want to abuse men will insist on legal marriage these days.
You are comparing something subjective with IQ. The decision to marry or not is shaped by our personal experience, and it doesn't correlate with intelligence. Only under certain context, I would make a correlation, for example, if a guy is poor and unemployed, it wouldn't be smart if he married, his situation would create an economic imbalance that would result in a divorce, if his wife doesn't earn enough money or no money at all.
Is all about the context and emotional intelligence, rather than the traditional parameters the IQ test establish.
Yes, it's true that smart men do not marry..
But intelligent men understand that life is about Leaving off, your offspring!..
And wise men know that love is worth getting destroyed over..
Find a women fall in LOVE..
That smartness will go down the drain..
And then.. MARRY HER!..
Like it's a women's job to bear kids and raise them right..
It's a men's job to stand beside women and assist, and in the end it does not matters if she takes it all for a generous living..
While he is left like rugrat,
Because he knows he has lived his life..
Had kids..
I completely and utterly DISAGREE. You see reality under the prism of your emotions and not cold reasoning , i value most. If you believe thay a woman just because she is a woman " it does not matter if she takes it all for a generous living " ( my work , my sucrifices my children ) , I am sorry but you are a fool.
Most women given the chance will act on their hypergamy. Most women given the chance will use a man.
Another thing I strongly disagree as well that " Life is about leaving an offspring ". No , life is about to be the best person u can and contribute to the society. Genghis Khan had hundreds of children , 1/5 of Asian men have his Y chromosome to this day , and he was one of the most gruesome people ever lived in his practices and in his live.
My bottom line is that I know I will be dissatisfied being in a relationship or in marriage.
Only stupid men spend their lives jumping form one woman to another as soon as their done with her sexually without finding true lovee ever. Your girlfriend will live with you for how many years? 5? 10? 20? She will dump your ass as soon as she realize that you will never marry her and go to find someone who's really worthy even if she loves you. My opinion is if a man can't take responsibility of starting a family and be mature, he should never think of getting married. I'm not saying all women are like that but the majority are and it's the real life after all.
A very small percentsge of women will become good spouses and mothers. They are hust simply not enough for all men. I know that having a wife or a girlfriend will make me more misrable and sadder than already am. I just do not want to become another victim of hypergamy that is all.
True. In the end it's your life and no one can force you to do something you don't want or believe in.
Hypergamy is not part of women nature as many claim.
Smart men get married to women who are worth it. They don’t take quick decisions. They know exactly what kind of woman they want, with detail.
Dumb men are mostly shallow and only go for women who are nice and good looking. This kind of shallow mindset will end up making him miserable in the long run, because “nice”, “pretty” and “funny” aren’t traits with depth. Guys who aren’t smart often choose these women and end up getting hurt.
I am not taking this raw. I have stopped dating as well
@nathanp97 If they’re also rich they’ll be even more careful as to whom they choose to marry.
Very much true to the this extent “Smart people can make very dumb decisions.”
Guys know marriage is bad for us, though we do it anyway.
Like what is marriage other than a contractual agreement for the US government to use for legal reasons when “things” happen.
I can’t think of one reason to get married that Ian based on some selfish trait.
You can preform perfectly functional and healthy familial units without marriage.
No, that's pathetic MGTOW logic.
Smart men marry good women.
What percentage are these women like 5 % ? They are not enough for all of the guys.
In this day and age any man with half the IQ of a rhesus monkey avoids marriage like the dark plague.
Why risk getting raped in court when you can live free?
Very true. Thank you for seeing the truth.
Smart men are people who are virgins and never touched a woman. Smart men get married of they want sex to the right woman. Not dumb women who will use them.
As i said most women are not good. Most women are hypergamous given the chance. And people like me who do not want childre , they do jot get married.
Then don't touch a woman. Problem solved. Their only hoes because you don't expect sex as their husband you expect it being Less of that that. A lot of men are hoes too bit want sex from me. You don't see me messing with a man for sex. My legs are closed. Better if 90 a virgin and happy than have a harem of men under the belt. Choose who you pick wisely and don't hop into something you can't commit to but you expect sex. Nog happening. Dumb girls who give up have to pay up.
Are they dumb if they don't want it. Nor the woman?
If all women have to offer is that why bother?
It's true that some people settle, marry for the wrong reasons, or don't protect their financial assets.
Someone just said "smart men marry smart women" and I have to stress that a smart man would never ever do this. A smart woman would know that if they ever got divorced she could clean him out in divorce court. Smart men don't get married and the men who are saying that they do... simply aren't smart.
Some people think that being 'smart' means thinking you are too good for everyone and not assiciating with anyone.
If course there us nothing intelligent about this. Truly intelligent people know how to relate to people, and what company to choose.
I am not going tobplay a game which is rigged
At this point, it's true. Smart women get married because it's an investment. Even if everything goes wrong, she still gained something.
For men, it's a gamble. You're betting half of your future that she'll do what she vows to do, and there's no risk for her if she breaks her vows.
A smart man doesn't play a game that's rigged against him.
Plenty of smart men get married, plenty of men in general marry without protecting themselves and planning ahead. Certainly doesn't mean they're dumb, just not thinking throughly. I also know quite a few marriages that have lasted, and plenty that have not. Life happens. Both men and women make actions with deceit, whether that be to others or/and themselves.
Not all the time, but yes, it's a smart thing to do, since women are so damn spoiled and stuckup nowadays and they know for a fact that they can divorce rape them and claim custody of the kids, since the court usually favors them.
That, plus the fourth-wave of feminism and the #MeToo movement have made it clear to men that women cannot be trusted.
Well I'm certainly not smart. My ex wife had an affair with a colleague and advertised the affair to everyone by changing her profile photo to a photo of the two of them. She even denied they were having an affair to me after doing that... Meantime it was the truth. She admit it a few days later
Depends on the country but smart men will not sign their rights away.
In the West.
Well, courts care fuck all about dudes' well-being in divorce cases. So, probably.
Simple
Why should men marry?
Why they have to get married?
Smart men date for a very long time before marriage.
Smart men make sure they have found the right woman, no doubts.
Smart men make sure they have a good lawyer and a pre-nup.
Agreed , but i do not want children so why should I bother marrying?
Smart men marry (when they find the woman they want to spend the rest of their life with) and then they treat her well. ;)
Hmmmm. What about the women?
Oh, smart women don't get married! ;)
But seriously, a lot of men aren't strong enough, emotionally, to stay faithful, and they end up breaking a woman's heart, according to https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/892933
So a lot of women are better off not getting married. The problem is, we don't know that at the time we get married. We think the guy is wonderful - then we find out later that he isn't who we thought he was (and that goes for some boyfriends, too).
I see u see things very one-sidedly and u put women or a pedestal. Women ate not angels , are not princesses , are not the " weakest sex ". Women is in fact the strongest sex. Men are disposable and arw valued less in a society than women. So I suggest u start being informed better. Also smart men do not get married as well.
It isn't one sided. It's the truth. Take it from a man. Nobody's saying women are angels or princesses even though a lot of them are. I am married to one. We are informed. Just look around you. I read that book and it is true. Nobody is disposable. if men are valued less in society it is because there are so many men who are abusers. I got married and it was the smartest thing I ever did. I am smart. I put my wife on a pedestal because she deserves it.
I think maybe you are just looking for an argument.
@bailey11 Whatevee u say. I know that I am going a lot of happier without a wife than with one. I do not want anything to do with women actually. I am pretty happy on my own in my tranquility.
I am going to be.
Thank you @bailey11. :)
@Asker A person's level of intelligence is irrelevant to his/her marital status.
You don't know whether you're going to be happier without a wife because you have nothing to compare it with. I know that if you found someone you loved with all your heart (and she loved you and you were good to each other), you'd be a lot happier than being single.
Maybe a woman hurt you but that doesn't mean that every woman will hurt you.
But if you've hardened your heart, maybe you're doing women a favor by staying single.
I wish you well. 😌
How many stable/ happy marriages do you know?
And 2) How many " good " women do u know?
I read the book too when it first came out. Everything in that book is spot on. You tell me how we can be better informed than that. Ever since I read it, I've seen example after example of it. If anything, women (generally speaking) would be smarter staying single.
Interesting to read the women's perspective in this question.
Anyway... smart men, no. Pragmatic men, 'perhaps'.
Pragmatic men i meant. And most of " women 's petspective " is just shaming , i have not found a good woman.
"A good woman." Is a phrase that should be dropped from the lexicon. What the hell that even means is anyone's guess. "A good fit." would be a better approximate.
At any rate, regarding the shaming... oh yeah. It's hard to miss.
Stephen Hawking was married and he was smarter than you.
I am smarter than my father who got married though.
You're still not smarter than Hawking.
That's not true. I believe people who are bored with their lives get married, being smart or not it doesn't matter. Because if you are willing to marry, then you have to sacrifice your personal life.
That's why I'm not willing to get married, because I have so many things to dedicate myself to, and getting married would stop me from doing these things.
The late genius, Albert Einstein was divorced and he considered himself MGTOW.
Smart men do get married but it would be smart not to be married.
Smart men do get married because then they don't have to hire a hooker, or a maid, or a cook, or a babysitter.
Statistics prove that married men are healthier because they have someone to care for them.
I do not want to live lots of years just peacefull and good years.
By smart I’m assuming successful males like doctors/surgeons/dentists/lawyers, and I agree with you. It doesn’t always happen but they’re busy most of the time and won’t have time to get married. I’ve seen it happen a lot
It is not a time issue , it is a mentality issue.
Men are far more successful with good women behind them
True. But how many good women do u know? I can personally count the ones i know in the fingers of my one hand.
I tried to be a good woman and my husband didn’t appreciate it. So now I live out the rest of my life afraid to make any real commitment or be anything more than in limbo relationships. Seems like it just doesn’t pay to be the good women anymore
This can definitely be said for men as well.
I know you’re right🤘
@jessture liar!..
If you can tell me that you didn't had one female crush or girlfriend who made you change one little thing in your life..
Wanting her motivated you..
She was the biggest incentive..
Her smiles were a million dollar reward..
😂
If you had one such girl!..
Yeah she ain't holding you back but fueling you to go forward
@jessture well then I Salute to you Sir!.
We both know.. Even if they do not become part of our life..
The women we fall for.. If gazes back in our eyes.. She changes us and our world!.. 😂😊😍
Half of us men!.. Imagine their face before going to sleep and get out of our Beds to See that face again!.
😉
It certainly looks that way in 2019; therefore, when it comes to marriage:
"The sensible man is careful to look where he is going;
the fool just believes." - Read Proverbs 14:15.
the smartest men get married early in life, stay committed and build a family.
I guess a lot of smart guys stay single because they are too busy with studies, career, etc
Or they do no want to get divorce raped.
A smart man would probably know how to maintain a marriage and select the right partner.
Also a smart man wouldn't value money so highly
I am talking about kids mostly. And the " food women " are not enough dor all men ou there.
*" good women ". Good luck if u want to get married.
We can never talk in absolutes, the perfect woman doesn't exist. The goal is to find the one thats most compatible and shares the same vision
You are already assuming divorce is unavoidable
Divorce/ unhappy marriage is unavoidable for most men.
Lol what kind of weird question is this? Of course smart men get married. The most powerful men on earth are married.
Smart men choose more wisely who they marry, and think deeply about the future with the woman.
Dumb guys will marry girls because because of how they look, try to make a hoe a housewife!
I wouldn’t say it’s not true but given my dad is a national leader in certain subjects and mixes with many other national/global leaders on things and I know their wives and children I’m going to confidentially say this is bullshit.
Marriage is not about intelligence. It’s about commitment and for some religion.
How many stable/happy marriages u know?
How many good women u know?
I know many. But again, neither of those traits is linked to intelligence.
I know many people in retail jobs/min wage who never never leave them who are happily married. Equally I’m in an unusual position to know many people even cabinet level who are happily married.
(Notice how I linked it back to your question for you. As your follow ups had nothing to do with your original question).
If you think i am stupid it your right. That does not change anything of what I am.
And my follow up has everything to do with my question because clever men would refuse to marry if they end up in an unstable marriage with high probability of a divorce. It seems i am not the dum one.
Well no... people marry for many reasons. Marriage itself is not an unintelligent thing to do,. Marrying beneath you or marrying a potato is the issue. So again; the issue is not marriage is unintelligent, your question is the intelligence between the couple.
A partnership (marriage or not) does not qualify intelligence or unionship. Regardless if you attach the term marriage and just say relationship, it is the bond between two people. You seem to think intelligent people must give each other a quick quiz or something, or they are immune to emotion or tragedy.
I’m not saying you’re stupid but you yourself have claimed and proved it.
Smart men find a decent partner and marry if they wish to.
not true
i think people get married when they find someone they wanna share life with
50 per cent probability that the man will be destroyed financially in a divorce court five to seven years later.
Then there is a lifetime as her impoverished slave, via a child-support order and prison if he cannot pay the court-mandated child support.
Legally and financially, women have recrafted the legal system so that a man would have to have a death wish to even speak to a female.
No, thats actually not true, in fact being “smart” has nothing to do with getting married... although what do you mean by being “smart” define that and you may recieve a more reliable answer
With those unequal laws of divorce and children custody in the West , those with a little more brain choose never to get married or have a family. Plus is the false rape accussations and all that.
Your question was not asking if it was smart to get married, it asked if smart men get married or not, and the answer is that they do, all the time.
Well i meant the later it seems.
The likes of Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk were either aware or unaware of what marriage entailed, but they took the risk anyway, “love” makes even the smartest of us blind.
But those are feelings , not reason. And we saw how Bezos's marriage ended.
Feelings turn to reason when one is caught under a spell, what are you arguing here? Im not really sure at this point. Is it smart to get married, financially speaking no, but you seem to already know this, so what are you asking?
If it smart to get married cinsidering all gains and risks.
I think its too broad of a question to answer outright, and would depend on each individual situation and who you’re marrying, But in a general sense, in the west its not smart at all for all of the reasons you already mentioned
Seeing as bachelor's are the ones driving a the convertible Audi's by the time they are 50 it seems so.
It doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. It all depends on what makes you happy.
Some guys are happy getting married and some are happy bring single. That's all that matters.
Plenty of smart men have been married and plenty of smart men have never married.
Your marital status has nothing to do with how smart you are and vice versa.
I see no reason to get married. You can still be together the entire life in a monogamous relationship if thats what you want.
However splitting up is way easier if you are not married
Einstein got married and divorced. If he can't figure out women, then I shouldn't get married.
It is a myth or a conspiracy stating that "smart men will never get married." They get married just as much as everybody else do. Overall, the people who believe in such like this are wearing tinfoil hats.
Well , i do not want to get married because I do jot want to get divorce raped.
I'm a smart man and i got married. Best decision of my life.
My uncle is old and never did and he has no money problems like everybody else so maybe
A lot of people want to be with someone for the rest of their lives.
Unhappy marriages and divorces are more common than happy.
You'd be a fool to.
I can do anything a married person can but without gambling everything I've ever worked for
Whatever helps you sleep at night. They say ignorance is bliss.
I agree. Ignorance is bliss.
I don't know but a lot of people are taught to marry the first person they have sex with which is a horrible call in most cases
If I think of smart men I immediately think of einstein. He was married. Twice, even, I believe.
But he regretted it.
There are sources to prove that. And do not call ke " sweet cheeks ".
He was smart in one way maybe not in another
Not saying I am against marriage I am not but at least one of his wives took him for his money
He definitely had to pay the first wife alimony him being who he was
Getting the government involved in my relationship is *INSANITY.*
He's got spurs hat jingle jangle jingle.
They are less likely to rush into marriage and may get married later, but no smart men generally end up getting married.
I am never getting married because of the situation of laws and women in the west.
What do you mean? Are you from an eastern country?
No I am a westerner. But the laws in the west are against man both in divorce and child custody.
Oh right yes. You mean the female privilege of women almost always winning no matter who is at fault.
Yep , that is it.
Why do I even want to live if I won't get married? .. it's just stupid.. I mean.. everybody wants to get married at least being with someone (one only person) for the rest of their lives
I do not. I am pretty sure my opinion will not change as well.
With my question i wish to see if other have the same opinions as me and obviously there are
I see marriage as an archaic and oppressive institution made for times woth a different socioeconomical situtation. As soon as women are equals than men and do not " answer" about their behaviour thanks to feminism and sexial liberation , i do not see the value of a marriage to a man that does not want children like me. As I said in some other comments nowdays the risks outweigh the benefits from it.
Are equals with men sorry.
What type of smart are we talking here? Book smart, street smart, socially smart?
He means smart as in someone ends up old with mad cash
Stephan Hawkins got married. So does my professors.
Most of my professors are too. But in this current form of society , marriage is a war deal.
Well, good luck finding a guy. But I am sure i am never getting married no matter what.
I'm not playing on getting married either but it's for self worth reasons
There are a lot of highly intelligent men who are or who have been married.
It's true if you add on "to awful people" at the end
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