Smart Men Don't Marry Feminists?

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A smart woman wrote: "The feminist worldview is antithetical to love because its focus is solely on women: their needs, their wants, their desires, and their rights. Love can’t possibly be sustained with an attitude like that." -- Suzanne Vener, Life Coach.

Yes, Feminists are Cancer in a Relationship

No, I Worship Feminists

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A survey found that 54% of women (in the US) don't identify as Feminist. Yet, if a man says he's against feminism he's told that he hates women. That he isn't human. You see that's a clue that feminism is a cult. It is not a gender or a litmus test for who believes in being fair to others. Thank you for all of the comments (except from the cult members pretending to represent justice & truth).

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

It depends what you mean by "feminist".

From what I see, a lot of women say they're feminist, but when you dig into their beliefs and values, it becomes apparent they're basically just egalitarians, perhaps with a secondary focus on women's issues (but not to the denigration of men's issues). These "feminists" are basically just normal women who believe in equal opportunities, but also feel that society has room for improvement. Hardly anything controversial there. (although even within this group, there may be splinter groups who have their own ideas of what those "improvements" ought involve.)

Then there's the "militant" feminists, the SJW anti-male types who believe all of society is ruled by "the patriarchy", and that all women are victims, and that men are akin to an airborne toxin that needs to be fumigated. Marrying one of these women is a fast way to get your bits chopped off in your sleep. Metaphorically speaking. (Or even literally, in a few rare cases.)

And then there's a third group: feminists who THINK they're just egalitarians, but who unconsciously take on the beliefs and ideologies of the militant feminists. Often these are young women, either in high school or college/University, where liberal professors and peers indoctrinate them with all kinds of absurdities. Or maybe they even pick it up from Twitter/Tumblr/YouTube rabbit holes. Or from their peer groups, who jump on whatever bandwagon will let them switch off their critical thinking, safe in the clutches of the Rad-Fem hivemind.

This third group may just be the most dangerous of all, even more so than the true radicals. Because most normal, non-converted people recognise a psychotic cult leader when they see one. But the "useful idiots" who are already converted can be deployed by the cult leader, to spread the cult beyond its own borders; and nobody will question what's happening, because the conscripts appear "normal" enough on the outside that their radicalism passes for regularity.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

So marrying an egalitarian makes perfect sense, as long as their idea of "equality" doesn't slip into victim mentality.

But marrying a RadFem is one of the worst decisions a man could possibly make. Why marry someone who believes your very existence is a form of tyranny against her gender?

[yofuknutz]

I have dealt with a Third Kind at least the first two are more honest never underestimate this stupid they can put a real hurt on you that would be the third group.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

@yofuknutz agreed

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

There should be a third option.
I am married to a feminist. And before you all lose your shit a few things.
1. She cooks better than most restaurants out there. To those who think they don't know how to do it.
2. She is super caring and loving and sex is something I never have lack of.
3. She doesn't nag me. Much less about women's rights. She is rational and even says that men also have their share of problems in society.
4. She is hot AF! Dresses like a proper girl and acts super feminine.
5. No she doesn't hate men. I mean she is married to one and pampers me everyday.
6. She makes more money than me and never ever brags about it. We both split expenses and work at the house. We both call the shots.
And yes she is a feminist! She calls herself one and trust me if you say that "women have no problems in society" she will argue with you, but not yell and she will be able to listen and present factual arguments.
In resume she is a modern girl feminine feminist who is not insane. Yes they exist and I found one!

[TruthBringer]

That's indeed a unicorn. You better hold on to that one

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer Oh you bet!

[yofuknutz]

Something I have learned while working for law enforcement say no to somebody see what happens double check their background and see what happens then again she could be a unicorn. Sounds too good to be true.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@yofuknutz "check their background"? What am I supposed to find? I know her criminal record is clean.

[yofuknutz]

Too good to be true and usually it is and also enjoy the Ride while it lasts

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@yofuknutz I couldn't be less worried. It will last until one of us dies.

[TruthBringer]

Honestly, she doesn't fit in the category as a "feminist"

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer she calls herself one.
Why do you say she doesn't?

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion I've met girls and women who call themselves feminists while they actually aren't really femnists. If you have to ask how the category of a feminist looks like, then you have been living under a rock, pal. Actual feminists are FAR MORE toxic and your woman seems to lean more towards a traditional woman judging from your description. Something feminists HATE. If your woman would meet them, they would shame her I can promise you that.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer she is rational, doesn't talk about women rights all the time and agrees that men have some disadvantages in society. About being a traditional women I don't know since she actually makes more money than me working on a big ass company. Not a lot more I am an engineer, but still more. I can't tell you which one of us spent more money while we were dating.

I know what the stereotype is. Thing is the feminists I see online are nuts. But the ones I meet in real life are all rational and very put together girls.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion The nutty feminists are often an abundance online as they are the ones who feel the need to complain. And the true modern feminists will lash out at your girlfriend for making more money and belittle you. And she also cooks and gives you regular sex? Like I said, she doesn't fit the category. You've described my girlfriend aswel. The only difference is that I make more money than she does. And guess what, she is not a feminists and neither does she call herself that.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion Many girls who aren't truly 'feminists' call themselves that just for the idea of men and women having equal rights, equal pay and equal opportunities. Then again, you don't have to be a feminist to want those things.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer oh yes! It was my birthday last Friday and my stomach was filled and my nuts emptied. Didn't had to ask!
She says she is a feminist because she believes in equality. Simple as that. She follows the old fashion definition.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer you don't have to be a feminist to want those things. But that is the original defenition of feminism. The idea of equal rights.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion See? just proved my point. She isn't a true feminist. And that's a good thing. She is simply a good woman. True feminists are often the ones who would rather 1-up men and always have their right than to be healthy partners who want to be a teamplayer. Trust me, if you would be with an ACTUAL feminist, you would want to kill yourself.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion And congratulations on your birthday ;)

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion The original feminism is no more, mate. That doesn't exist. It's corrupted now. Back then at least they had a reason to be feminists. And it wouldn't surprise me if the old feminists would hate the current ones.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer I think it depends on you definition of what a "feminist" is.
You immediately imagine that ugly, fat pink hair irrational girl who thinks the pilot who suicide by crashing a plane on the french Alpes was an attack on women because there were more women than men on board. Those are the third wave feminists. Those are insane lunatics and I would never marry one!

My wife is an old fashion feminist, still a feminist.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer thanks! 🤜🤛

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer they would hate the third wave feminists for sure!
They are a mockery of the old ones who actually just wished equality.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion Yeah too bad the good ones are a dying breed. It's far more likely to encounter a crazy feminist than a good one. At my old university, there was a research done because 1 teacher (who fits the stereotype of a feminist in terms of looks) happened to fail more male-students than female-students. The issue is that these kind of people cannot be longer ignored. Just imagine you or your son happens to fail a course because his teacher happens to hate men.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer it's really bad! But schools always had some bias against boys, but it is worse now.
Is true that the school system doesn't fit what boys like as much as girls do. The books they read, the games they play and even the concept of listening instead of doing favors girls at young ages. So is normal that they do better.
BUT a study was made that showed that if teachers just grade students on their grades alone, without knowing the name of the student (meaning they do not know if they are a boy or a girl). The boys grades went up 30%. 30 fucking percent! Their average score would still be lower than the girls, due to the factors I mentioned earlier. But 30% is a lot!

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer I have no real idea why this is. Most teachers at young age are women and so they are bias? Do they feel they need to repress violent games and punish adventurous attitudes of boys? What?

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion I don't know why they do this either. I can only speculate. Wouldn't surprise me if feminism does play some part in this. Afterall, most teachers are women. I've met great female teachers, but unfortunately, as you can see, there is a bias in the school system. I've not seen a SINGLE feminist raise their voice against this if this happens to be true. Can you source the study? I've not known about it.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer I can try to find it again.
Most college graduates today are girls and they actually make more money on average then guys on the begging of their careers.
Wale gap is bullshit and they actually seem to have the advantage when they go into the work market.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer I am not finding it. I probably saw it quoted somewhere.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion That's another thing feminists never complain about. And I found the BBC covering it here, but in case you do find the study, let me know : https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31751672

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion I'll let you know if I happen to find it

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer thanks!
I already saw a feminist say something like "we want to address men's issue, but we are simply focusing on what is more prevalent and common in society today. Girls have most of the disadvantages so we need to address and worry about them first."
This logic is the same has having two plates in front of two starving children. And giving both to one of the children because looks skinnier at first glance. When one plate is more than enough to feed the child and will have no real use for the second plate that is being given.

[TruthBringer]

@thisismyopinion Great example! This pretty much shows how modern feminism is not out for equal rights, but is only for women. It's modern feminism that gave birth to groups like MGTOW. There is a reason why those feminists are ending up alone and miserable. Let's take a moment and appreciate the fact we aren't dealing with that kind of woman.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@TruthBringer amen to that!

[yofuknutz]

She might be saying that she's a feminist just to shut everybody up

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@yofuknutz?
Shut who up? He call herself a feminist when it's just me and her on the room and she knows I don't call myself a feminist.

[yofuknutz]

I woke up for this man I'm going back to sleep

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@yofuknutz?

[yofuknutz]

https://youtu.be/_kaNZm7v1-o

[OlderAndWiser]

Well, many feminists have relationships with other feminists.

[yofuknutz]

You got that right UC you're not just fucking the feminist you have to go through all of them her friends basically

[Harris_sresht]

Dont marry. Thats the best option, delay it as much as possible without depraving yourself of chances. Thats the only way to get a good life.
Ideal case would be to not marry at all but to just enjoy the life of normal singles.
As far as men are concerned feminists should be avoided.
Im not against women rights or supportive laws but the whole meaning of being a feminist has changed over the years to something that beats down on masculine concepts. Like is it masculine toxicity to have a general macho like attitude? If it doesn't hurt or bother anyone why the hell must those women be offended?
Leave em i say. YEET!

[TruthBringer]

Ironic how feminists target masculinity, yet try to mimic a masculine man in style and attitude 😂

[Harris_sresht]

I know right

[TruthBringer]

Marry a feminist? You mean the so-called "strong independent woman" who in reality is full of insecurity about her own femininity, who claims she "doesn't need no need", but still tries to get with men for their resources while making her lives a living hell through nagging & defiance? And should I even bother mention those with short & dyed hair?

Watch them say "Men like you can't handle a strong woman". No sweeties, men like myself are absolutely capable to handle you. We just don't want to be bothered with your bullshit when we can get with a truly feminine woman who would rather be a teamplayer than a liability. Remember, masculinity attracks feminity and vice versa. Hence why masculine men avoid you like the plague.

There is a reason why non-feminist/traditional women are mostly happy in their relationships and aren't suffering from depression. You don't need no man, remember? Go be with your cats 😂.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

I think I married a unicorn then.

[zeitgeist057]

Feminism /ˈfeməˌnizəm/
noun - the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

fem·i·nist/ˈfemənəst/
noun - a person who supports feminism.
adjective -relating to or supporting feminism.

Smart men *are* feminists.
I. e. smart men support the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of *equality* of the sexes.

The communication disconnect here is illustrated by the quote you gave. Many people have their own personal definition of "feminist", which deviates from the dictionary definition. Many feminists, even.

Absolutely I agree with you that *inequality* is a bad thing, and that is the toxic element we see with certain feminists who are pushing back the other way against misogyny (hatred of women), to the point of misandry (hatred of men). Hate is not the answer. Going to extremes is not the answer.

Finding balance and equality and nurturing that is the answer.

[hahahmm]

"Personal definition"... actually, many people simply observe the hypocrisy of self-avowed feminists. Instead of trusting all the positives associated with the label and ignoring the negatives, we take them at their word.

[zeitgeist057]

To define a word by those labeled with the word serves to confuse things, if what you seek is confusion. "Christianity" for example, would have an entirely different meaning if defined by "self-avowed Christians".

Of course, I understand the hypocrisy of cherry picking to support a particular perspective, rather than applying the same logic across the board.

As I said, I partially agree with you, in that there are people who label themselves as feminists who are actually misandrists. I prefer to call a spade a spade, even if that spade insists it is a hoe. XD

[Anonymous]

Third option should have been feminists don't get a relationship. I think so. Like a proper happy relationship is hard to see if they are radical feminists. They might find some beta simps or male feminists but they'll probably break up soon after all cuz they don't have proper boundaries. I feel these radical feminists believe in misandry and not equal respect. A real relationship involves equal respect and love which clearly won't be there in this case.

[hahahmm]

I posted another question around the same time called, "Most Women Aren't Relationship Material?"... Most Women Aren't Relationship Material? ↗

[Opinion Owner]

Oh, but there are plenty women out there who are actual egalitarians but would rather not be coined with feminism.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

If you are talking about radical feminists we agree.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm glad we do

[Yaaten]

Feminists believe that a woman needs a man "like a fish needs a bicycle". That being the case, why should we even bother with those ungrateful trollops? Let them stew in the pungent odour of 20 cats in an empty, dark house, with only their own miserable, bitter thoughts to keep them company.

[Texaskid1]

Ouch😮😮😮

[RolandCuthbert]

The Incel Manifesto

[hahahmm]

Are you calling the female life coach I quoted an 'incel' ? That's a stretch. Trying to fight logic with emotional cartoons is funny. Please, consult your feminist leadership to get better talking points & try again.

[RolandCuthbert]

An incel is calling folks emotional.

LOLx10!!!

[hahahmm]

You're calling names and being emotional right here. Nice dodge attempt tho.

[RolandCuthbert]

How am I calling you names? Involuntary celibate is a condition. It isn't name-calling. Besides, you have no problem wielding the term "feminist". And lookie, here. . . your widdle feelings are hurt.

But you aren't emotional?

[YHL6965]

Well, in my opinion, a smart man does not marry in the first place because divorce courts statistically favor women on average. Add to that the fact that feminists are often trouble if you happen to be born as a man. Honestly, sticking your peener in a pencil sharpener sounds like a better idea than marrying a feminist.

[jshm2]

Depends what you mean by "feminists" as it's not a monolith. Arab feminists are very different from French feminists, who are very different from Indian feminists.

Feminism varies due to cultural and social norms in various societies.

[MCheetah]

Feminists are just a cancer in society, in general. They're so stupid and out of touch with reality, they're like millionaires complaining that the world doesn't cater to them enough. Maybe that's why so many Hollywood celebs are so woke.