Smart Men Don't Marry Feminists?

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

It depends what you mean by "feminist".

From what I see, a lot of women say they're feminist, but when you dig into their beliefs and values, it becomes apparent they're basically just egalitarians, perhaps with a secondary focus on women's issues (but not to the denigration of men's issues). These "feminists" are basically just normal women who believe in equal opportunities, but also feel that society has room for improvement. Hardly anything controversial there. (although even within this group, there may be splinter groups who have their own ideas of what those "improvements" ought involve.)

Then there's the "militant" feminists, the SJW anti-male types who believe all of society is ruled by "the patriarchy", and that all women are victims, and that men are akin to an airborne toxin that needs to be fumigated. Marrying one of these women is a fast way to get your bits chopped off in your sleep. Metaphorically speaking. (Or even literally, in a few rare cases.)

And then there's a third group: feminists who THINK they're just egalitarians, but who unconsciously take on the beliefs and ideologies of the militant feminists. Often these are young women, either in high school or college/University, where liberal professors and peers indoctrinate them with all kinds of absurdities. Or maybe they even pick it up from Twitter/Tumblr/YouTube rabbit holes. Or from their peer groups, who jump on whatever bandwagon will let them switch off their critical thinking, safe in the clutches of the Rad-Fem hivemind.

This third group may just be the most dangerous of all, even more so than the true radicals. Because most normal, non-converted people recognise a psychotic cult leader when they see one. But the "useful idiots" who are already converted can be deployed by the cult leader, to spread the cult beyond its own borders; and nobody will question what's happening, because the conscripts appear "normal" enough on the outside that their radicalism passes for regularity.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

There should be a third option.
I am married to a feminist. And before you all lose your shit a few things.
1. She cooks better than most restaurants out there. To those who think they don't know how to do it.
2. She is super caring and loving and sex is something I never have lack of.
3. She doesn't nag me. Much less about women's rights. She is rational and even says that men also have their share of problems in society.
4. She is hot AF! Dresses like a proper girl and acts super feminine.
5. No she doesn't hate men. I mean she is married to one and pampers me everyday.
6. She makes more money than me and never ever brags about it. We both split expenses and work at the house. We both call the shots.
And yes she is a feminist! She calls herself one and trust me if you say that "women have no problems in society" she will argue with you, but not yell and she will be able to listen and present factual arguments.
In resume she is a modern girl feminine feminist who is not insane. Yes they exist and I found one!

[OlderAndWiser]

Well, many feminists have relationships with other feminists.

[Harris_sresht]

Dont marry. Thats the best option, delay it as much as possible without depraving yourself of chances. Thats the only way to get a good life.
Ideal case would be to not marry at all but to just enjoy the life of normal singles.
As far as men are concerned feminists should be avoided.
Im not against women rights or supportive laws but the whole meaning of being a feminist has changed over the years to something that beats down on masculine concepts. Like is it masculine toxicity to have a general macho like attitude? If it doesn't hurt or bother anyone why the hell must those women be offended?
Leave em i say. YEET!

[TruthBringer]

Marry a feminist? You mean the so-called "strong independent woman" who in reality is full of insecurity about her own femininity, who claims she "doesn't need no need", but still tries to get with men for their resources while making her lives a living hell through nagging & defiance? And should I even bother mention those with short & dyed hair?

Watch them say "Men like you can't handle a strong woman". No sweeties, men like myself are absolutely capable to handle you. We just don't want to be bothered with your bullshit when we can get with a truly feminine woman who would rather be a teamplayer than a liability. Remember, masculinity attracks feminity and vice versa. Hence why masculine men avoid you like the plague.

There is a reason why non-feminist/traditional women are mostly happy in their relationships and aren't suffering from depression. You don't need no man, remember? Go be with your cats 😂.

[zeitgeist057]

Feminism /ˈfeməˌnizəm/
noun - the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

fem·i·nist/ˈfemənəst/
noun - a person who supports feminism.
adjective -relating to or supporting feminism.

Smart men *are* feminists.
I. e. smart men support the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of *equality* of the sexes.

The communication disconnect here is illustrated by the quote you gave. Many people have their own personal definition of "feminist", which deviates from the dictionary definition. Many feminists, even.

Absolutely I agree with you that *inequality* is a bad thing, and that is the toxic element we see with certain feminists who are pushing back the other way against misogyny (hatred of women), to the point of misandry (hatred of men). Hate is not the answer. Going to extremes is not the answer.

Finding balance and equality and nurturing that is the answer.

[Anonymous]

Third option should have been feminists don't get a relationship. I think so. Like a proper happy relationship is hard to see if they are radical feminists. They might find some beta simps or male feminists but they'll probably break up soon after all cuz they don't have proper boundaries. I feel these radical feminists believe in misandry and not equal respect. A real relationship involves equal respect and love which clearly won't be there in this case.

[Yaaten]

Feminists believe that a woman needs a man "like a fish needs a bicycle". That being the case, why should we even bother with those ungrateful trollops? Let them stew in the pungent odour of 20 cats in an empty, dark house, with only their own miserable, bitter thoughts to keep them company.

[RolandCuthbert]

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[AD240pCharlie]

I don't care. She can use whatever words she wants to describe herself and her worldviews, what matters is what her beliefs actually ARE. I've met my fair share of Tumblr feminists in real life, and I've also encountered a lot of genuinely good and intelligent feminists like my sister.
I would have a problem dating anyone who takes their political views too seriously, though.

[jshm2]

Depends what you mean by "feminists" as it's not a monolith. Arab feminists are very different from French feminists, who are very different from Indian feminists.

Feminism varies due to cultural and social norms in various societies.

[YHL6965]

Well, in my opinion, a smart man does not marry in the first place because divorce courts statistically favor women on average. Add to that the fact that feminists are often trouble if you happen to be born as a man. Honestly, sticking your peener in a pencil sharpener sounds like a better idea than marrying a feminist.

[MCheetah]

Feminists are just a cancer in society, in general. They're so stupid and out of touch with reality, they're like millionaires complaining that the world doesn't cater to them enough. Maybe that's why so many Hollywood celebs are so woke.

[Bluemax]

Ms. Vener ought to be aware that feminists come in all shapes and sizes. Nothing what she said describes the feminists I know.

I can't vote in your poll because the wording doesn't accurately reflect what I think. I do not worship feminists, nor do I believe they are cancer.

I vote C : I married a feminist. I was very happy with that decision.

by the way, my wife was a feminist, but never once did I hear her call herself one.

[MountAverage]

I'm not exactly looking for marriage, but in terms of relationship yeah. So far every woman I've dated was at least in some sense a Feminist. Nothing special about it, it's pretty normal.
Smart men know what Feminism is and especially what it ISN'T.

[Dchrls78104]

I'm a Christian. Feminists are not. The Bible says that the man heads the Christian household (1 Corinthians 11:3) and that the wife should have respect for her husband (Ephesians 5:33). Such teachings are incompatible with the tenets of feminism. A relationship between a feminist and, at least, me, could never work.

[oddwaffle]

You can date them, you can bone them but marry someone who cares about you.

Feminist can't love men. They have too much hatred in them to be a proper wife.

[jestergent]

I don't care. I tell people to their faces. That it was good at one point and I supported until I woke up to the damage it has caused going too far to date. Shame blame won't work on me.

[Dracuaw]

If you're talking about bitter lesbians then these should burn in hell. If you are talking about egalitarian feminists then why not marry one of them if you like her?

[ColHathi]

She doesn't sound smart, but I guess that's subjective. I believe feminism in part focuses on equality between our genders, men and women. It's not an exclusively female thing. It's not about making women greater than men or focusing only on "their needs, their wants, their desires, and their rights". It includes men, so I don't know where you or her have your ideas from.

[havingfun101]

False dichotomy. All western women benefit from Feminism and aren't clamoring to have those unearned advantages taken away. I. e. only men must register for Selective Service or become felons, be fined and lose voting rights. Only white men don't receive Affirmative Action in universities and the workplace.

[Anonymous]

I would't call them cancer. But I do think feminists are an problem in modern society. Mostly because they are selfish, act out of control and only wants to make themselves better than men. I think they are most of the times just insecure about themselves and want to inflict their pain on others.

[VertigoJ]

The quote is ridiculous. Feminism isn't about focusing solely on women, it's about equality. Most peoples ideas of feminism are intersectional, radical feminism, which the quote describes, is what it says it is. Radical. It's a non sensical outlier to a pro ethical idea.

[KrakenAttackin]

Smart men don't marry at all. Marrying a feminist is like putting a pistol to your head

[CasaNorba]

marrying a woman is bad enough nowadays. so whatever man that goes as far as marrying a feminists must not have a brain, balls or a soul. or maybe non of the three

[Browneye57]

I absolutely love women. And feminism is about absolutely hating men. See? You have it backwards. LOL

[Walrus_au]

Smart men aren't terrified of women.
Adult men aren't threatened by strong independent women.

So we have established you are neither smart nor adult.

[argyle]

I'm a lifelong feminist, and I'm of the opinion that smart guys are the ones who fall for feminists Feminism may sound like it's all about the woman, but true Feminism is all about gender equality.

[Lionman95]

Neither I wouldn´t say it´s cancer but it´s still no reason to worship feminism. I would say that women should be equals in a relationships. They should have the same to say in the relationship.

[genericname85]

well i'd say you're wrong. because you can be smart AND a massive soyboy xD

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Smart men don't put stock in the advice of life coaches.

[msc545]

Only a simp or an incredibly stupid man would even date a feminist, much less marry one. Feminists are vicious, voracious man-haters who live to make men miserable.