like if all the women in a country end up single can you blame the men?
i saw this video about an article saying that men are ruining women's chances of marriage by being broke. just like Tim Pool, i don't agree with this video but anyway it's ridiculous what these men are being blamed for. no one seems to care that there are broke men out there but how dare these men decided to be broke when they're supposed to be rich and handsome so that they can fulfill their life purpose and marry women. LOL
F No… We have been hearing now for three generations that women don’t need men and most don’t want them. Men have been slow to respond to this but it has taken a couple generations and now they are responding by just simplifying their lives. Being the breadwinner was a big deal once upon a time for men and they busted their asses to make a living to support families. Feminism and now all women have relieved men of that duty because they don’t want any dependency on men so they have chosen to make the babies and pay for it too without men. Halleluiah! Now men have discovered that they can live on $12-20K per year alone if they like go minimalist and they don’t need some university degree to do that. I know that I can live really simple and be happy alone and I enjoy watching these women bust their asses to succeed and climb the ladder. After the corporate holy-grail loses its luster, they find they still want a man that makes more and is masculine but those guys remain only in black and white re-runs. So Dr. morrowlow, do we really give a sht if harpies that would cut your dick off at the drop of a hat are single? I sure as f don’t give a sht.
Wow why are you speaking for me (a woman) and generalizing so much? ! I am not like this at all! And if I ever had a child with someone I would hope that they pay for the child too! It takes TWO to tango you know! Also, that just speaks of their irresponsibility!
@SueAnon84 No, don't accuse her of generalizing. She's telling the TRUTH. You don't get to shit on men, an entire generation of men just spent 10 years seeing the media portray us as trash 24/7, men are nothing, men are weak, men are cowards, men would be nothing without women - and now millenial women have the NERVE to complain no one wants them and there are no good men left? please... get the fuck over yourselves.
@ronaldo75 Dang no YOU'RE just bitter. I tell you I am NOT like this and I also refuse to call myself a "Milllenial" because of all the bad connotations it has! Besides, I'm more of a Gen Yer than a "Millenial" :-) I even have old taste when it comes to furniture and things! I like colorful things, not black and white with a mix of gray and Industrialized furniture and colors and all that other stuff! Eww! I love myself some antiques... Also, why DON'T you want to take responsibility for the children you make with someone? ! That's all I mean! Don't give yourselves excuses to be lazy with parenting and just being plain old responsible! It doesn't look good on anyone! Including the "men" gender!
@SueAnon84 You can put words in my mouth and call me all the names you want. She's still 100% spot on in what she said. Men are noticing that the best thing in a man's life is no longer a woman (the same message feminists gave women). Relationships little by little have simply not become worth it and it's more of headache for men because we have to chase and chase and chase for a girlfriend, we find one, lose her to relationship bullshit then have to start chasing again. Fuck it. There's a lot more to life than sex and women - for some odd reason y'all are triggered over not being man's primary goal anymore.
@ronaldo75 1. No I actually agree with that 2. I'm not triggered if I am not the man's primary goal, it's fine. 3. What about passing on your genes? Don't you want to have children for that? I'm just curious! Without women, you'll have to pay for it (sex and a baby). ... I work in Customer Service and I always see these families coming in all the time. Don't you want any of that stuff that they do? !
@SueAnon84 I have plans to pay for a surrogate pregnancy using my sperm and simply being a single father. It costs PENNIES compared to what marriage costs and without the stress of a woman driving you insane all the time. In Brazil really young women charge anywhere from 20,000 to 50,000 and in places like Dominican Republic they do it for as low as 10,000. A wedding alone can cost 25,000 dollars. And I don't pay for sex. If I don't have sex for a while then so be it. I don't care.
@SueAnon84 Sue... The average couple dates for 5 years before marrying. That's at least 50 dates/dinners a guy hast to pay for. Say about $10,000, then $25,000 for a wedding, then a $30,000 down payment on a house. $10,000 in random gifts for her, $40,000 for a child delivery, HALF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT when you get divorced and then 13% in child support/alimony?
It's best to just pay a young South American woman to have a kid for you. It's cheaper.
@ronaldo75 Well for me, if I EVER meet anyone I like enough (again), I couldn't care less for an expensive wedding so that won't be a problem for me. I'm not materialistic like that like a lot of people! $25,000 for a wedding is too extravagant for my taste! I don't think it would take 5 years (at least not for me) to know if I want to marry someone or not! That's just a ridiculous waste of time! Also, the experience of a pregnancy is SUPPOSED to be a very intimate experience between husband and wife (or whatever partner you have!).
If you want to have a baby that way, then by all means. Personally, I'm not attracted to Latinas or Mexicans! I look at them as Dirty! But could just be my racism talking! They ARE pretty... some of them... and I have met a lot of nice Latinos at my job so it's changing my mind slowly to being more open minded! ...
So in addition to supposedly earning more money than them they for the same job and disproportionately taking positions in high earning fields we are also so broke that it is difficult for them to find a viable marriage candidate?
Its simpler than that. Women tend to disguise their true nature with bullshit but at its core, this conundrum is very simple.
>Women want high status men >High status men want women with certain traits >Women with the traits that high status men want, are: -Not western women -Between the ages of 18-25 -Are physically attractive >The women complaining they can't find a man often do not fit within the parameters sought by high status men. Thus leaving them stuck with attractive but broke men. >Women are now shocked when they look around their places of work to find nothing but other women, while men are out doing things they enjoy and living minimally. Which they refer to as being 'immature.'
I see a lot of people mentioning how this is feminisms fault. And I agree but I think it's great women are finanlly able to earn just as much as men do. It's just sad that so many of us are shallow enough to still expext the men to be the breadwinner but want equality in every other aspect.
You're 23 years old. Do you really believe that it's just now that women have started earning as much as men? Please don't tell me that you're that blind. My mom was a single mother in the 80s and 90s and made great money. My grandmother raised 5 kids ALONE in the 60s running a successful business. My other grandmother build 3 houses on her own in the 60s and 70s and died with a bloated bank account. I have an aunt that has been on her own since the 80s, never married, no kids and does what she wants and owns a small gift shop that does great.
Men aren't marrying not because we're broke (I make 6-figures as a programmer and I'm back in school for economics, travel and live great) The problem is too many women have inflated egos and you all have been fed "we're all goddesses and girl power queens who are the BOSS"... who the fuck wants to marry that? Mind you this is a generation where being 20 pounds overweight is CELEBRATED... like really? So.. you want me to marry a fat chick with an ego, attitude and an arrogance problem? Please...
You don't really "earn as much as men do," you cut wages in half by doubling the workforce.
The more workers there are, the lower it drives wages.
That's what's funny about the whole, "gender wage gap" debate, it's actually just a smokescreen to cover up the fact that EVERYBODY'S getting fucked out of 50% of their wages. Divide and Conquer. Every time two groups are fighting, you can bet that somebody else is plundering them both and telling them it's the other one doing it.
It's not just the oldest trick in the book, it's the ONLY trick in the book because it never fails. You don't need any other tricks. This one always works.
Its almost like women have a childish outlook on the world... You ever see a woman have a nervous breakdown? Hoooooo boy! Feminism is NOT your friend kids and "I told you so" seems to make women even angrier despite still having a bit of time left to rectify her situation.
There is a such thing as "the blame game," that's true.
But it's also true that sometimes, some people are TO BLAME because they caused bad things to happen which would not have happened if they hadn't caused it.
I notice that women always like to pretend that anyone blaming them for anything is just a "loser playing the blame game."
That's because those women are losers who play "the shame game."
It's not about being rich and handsome and living your life on a yacht. Granted there are a lot of men and women who wish to get partners just to do that, but you're not looking at in a realistic point of view. If women are deciding not to get married because men are broke, their thinking about the financial well being of their future families.
Women don't want their family, that includes their husbands, to be in a financial hole were they are struggling day in and day out to feed themselves let a lone their children. Worrying and fighting over money is the last thing anyone should go through or want in a relationship, cause when money is tight in relationships that's when a relationship starts to shake or crumble. And that's something a lot of women are trying to avoid.
No one on earth wants to be in financial struggle, both genders really don't want this cause we see what happens in the poor areas and the ghettos. Those people aren't thriving and can't catch a break. It doesn't' make the situation better if they have to deal with the violence, the crime, the drug abuse, the homeless etc. on top of being poor and with kids. I'm sorry but this is what a lot of men seem to not be consider but instead are just jumping to the women are gold diggers rhetoric.
This has nothing to do with gold digging but instead wanting your children and the future generations to thrive in society. A lot of guys tend to not like me on this site, and I know some of you will just call me a golddigger but there seems to be this extreme disdain for women wanting to do better when it comes to choosing a partner. It's like okay, get dragged if you want a successful and financially stable man or get dragged if you choose the wrong man, the wrong man he left you behind with kids, the wrong man who used you for sex etc. and I don't get it.
Men and women come together for different resources and benefits. The main benefit should be love however we also want other qualities. That's just the truth. Men come to us women for our beauty, femininity, nurturing instincts, to give offspring and of course, emotional and physical love. If woman can't give you that or refuses to give you that, and you can't compromise it hen the relationship is not going to work. It's the same with women, were looking for a partner with resources and benefits, and those benefits are love, protection and providence. And I just feel like this is something a lot of men aren't understanding when it comes to this topic.
Also guys I know feminism is huge here in American, but we have to not assume that everyone is practicing it.
it's true that women look at men for resources and that's sad since i'm a working class guy myself but these women we're talking about are women who are successful in their careers but they're sad that there are not many men who are richer and more successful around. the awful thing here is that men are not making progress in their careers, a lot of them don't go to college but the society doesn't care about them until their shortcomings affect women. then we're all concerned and write articles about it. i think if women still want men to be the providers then they should not put men down when they're being competitive. but if women want to hold really powerful positions then they should be okay with switching gender roles and being the provider. as far as i know working class people are still marrying each other and have no problem. it's usually the career women who have this type of problems
I watch Timcast everyday. Great source. Keep watching and share his videos. Men are not at fault for this. It's liberalism and feminism / misandry. How are women gonna find the man who earns more than them if society and feminists deny men of education and job opportunities? Of course men are part of society and there are plenty of liberal men. They are part of the problem too. In order for society to function at its full potential we need to go back a few decades. The mid - late 20th century is probably best. Men play their gender role by being the provider and protector and the women play their gender role as mothers and caretakers. If they choose to not become mothers then they can go to work and live single. Both work fine because not all men want to be fathers or take that kind of responsibility either. Both have options. It's a win - win. But modern days are corrupted with gender roles being reversed which makes "Normal" people of both genders unhappy. Men want a family, sex and love. Women want a family, sex and love. We just have different methods to reach those goals because of our biology. And messing around with our biology screws up everything that stems from it.
The problem is they shit on men for almost a decade. Had ZERO RESERVATIONS about calling us worthless useless little boys and everything made of GiRL PoWer and female energy was better - and now that millennial women are nose diving head first into the mid-late 30s they're bitching that men dont want them. This is comedy at it's best.
No the rise of feminism is, feminism teaches women today to solely focus on careers, not to care about having children, not care about men. I have said this before and I will say it again. I get it, women want to make money, be independent, not worry about going through 9 months of a child in her stomach and then taking care of it afterwards. But women have to step back and say, "I can't assume all men are bad, if guys/men are on the same boat of trying to find someone then obviously there is a commonality between men and women".
To women out there its fine to be career driven, but your boss will never love you, your money will never love you, call me old fashioned, call me old school but I love the idea of having kids and having a loving family, and teaching my kids how to play sports or helping them with their homework so they excel in school. Seeing my kids graduate, have kids themselves, getting married, etc. I just feel like women want to be single and have a pet dog as her companion... ok fine but uhh humans need human interaction and human love back, unfortunately society today has deemed having kids and being faithful to one person as "crazy" and "pointless". Do women really want to be in their 70s with no kids to care for her, no husband in the picture and a bunch of cats to take care of in a 600 sq ft condo?
When I first saw this question, I was tickled. I think it's so funny and silly at the same time. Then after a while, it's just sad. It's like whenever I encounter an inconvenience or disadvantage, all I got to do was to cry foul and blame it on others. Rubbish. We need to take responsible for our own actions and life choices. Yes, there are instances when life does dealt us with an unfair punch. What we should do is to get back on our feet and try to make the best out of what we can, and not just lie down on the ground, whining and crying at how unfair this world is.
Yes. If you are a man and you say cheated on your girlfriend and she broke up with you and is now single, that man, specifically in that case,specifically, is responsible for that specific woman being single for a while, but he cannot be blamed indefinitely.
Men in general, no, not anymore than women are responsible for all the single men out there. Everyone is a case by case basis and you have to look at a specific relationship and why it goes right or wrong, but blanket statements that blame all of one group for a problem are ridiculous because everyone is an individual and should be judged as such.
but even in the cheating scenario it's the woman who does the breaking up. i mean if it is her who makes the decisions, she should accept the consequences
You can play the semantics game, but if I woke up this morning, got in my car, and then was rear ended by a drunk driver, is it my fault that I woke up and decided to drive that day? Should I just never drive ever?
If yesterday that same couple was happy because the woman thought she wasn't being cheated on, and the only difference between yesterday and today is that she now has the knowledge that this guy is not a good guy for her because he doesn't respect their relationship enough not to cheat, then yes, his fault. Also as I said, it is his fault for now, but if we meet up with her a year from now and she is still single, that same guy cannot be blamed indefinitely for cheating being the sole reason she is single right now because after a while it is on her to get back into the dating world on her own and leave the past behind her or we could just as easily change her to him, she to he, and the story would be the same.
@ opinion owner, I don't understand how all of that has anything to do with this question? I mean, this was specifically asking about the article, which was about broke men being at fault into why woman aren't getting married.. but you're over here talking all about cheating? I believe the question was specifically asking about broke men, nothing to do with cheating 🤷🏻♀️
@Lauren-green my question was inspired by the article but i deliberately made it more general to see what people think and yeah most of the women blamed cheating men
@morrorlow which is interesting because I think woman don't want to admit that woman cheat too. It's always blaming the men, never accepting fault 🤷🏻♀️
I think people in general are single more now because our society is morally bankrupt. Marriage has no value in society today, so why pursue a relationship? Men and women both engage in casual hookups, and this tends to be more damaging for women. Why the fuck would a reasonable guy ever seriously date a woman that has fucked more than one or two people? They’re damaged goods. Men can get away with this more, not that it’s okay. I don’t have a double standard there, but biologically it makes a lot more sense for women to take the responsibiltiy in society to not engage in casual sex... and they did up until the advent of birth control. Birth control has probably dealt the most lethal blow to human society out of anything else, even social media.
No, I don't think either gender is responsible (overall) for the other gender failing to find people. Also the statistics discussed don't seem to fit among the various people I know in life, though I don't know very many people compared to all the people that exist so maybe my experiences really do deviate from average. But I doubt it. I don't see significantly different employment rates between genders of people I know and the women I know, on average, do not have more skills or make more money than the men I know.
Toxic feminism is the greatest culprit. It has stripped boys of education , vilified masculinity, created a new generation of softbois and has inspired many men to go either MGTOW or Gay Bi or consider trans women. Relationships with women in the western world is simply a lose lose for the man. The only remaining beenifit was sex but after Metoo men are seeking alternatives. the moment prostitution and sex bots are readily available women will become in the eyes of a large portion of the male population
No we aren't. Saw the video too. Apparently "broke" men are to blame for women not being able to find a husband. 1. If men are broke , how is there a wage gap? 2. The reason men are "failing" is bcs women were given GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED ADVANTAGES aka. affirmative action programs and gender quotas , giving them the legal ability to cut in line based on the fact that they are women under the pretense of equality.
Women wanted this and now that its spectacularly backfiring in their face , they blame men for it.
I received an inheritance between the time I left my ex and a year and a half later I filed for divorce. My divorce lawyer told me we aren't filing for alimony there is no point. Not all lawyers advice a woman to file for alimony and my lawyer was a woman too.
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No men can not be blamed for women being single or not entirely. People are just not marrying like they used to for various reasons. The blame game environment does have some influence on people's thinking to make them wary of starting a serious relationship.
Obviously, because alimony is based on maintaining the same standard of living. How would you prove that with all the money you got. + depending on where you live he could be entitled to half of that money, so if you pushed for alimony he could try too.
@nathanp97 In my state no as long as the funds don't mingle since it is inheritance. If I had not inherited I would have received alimony since we were married for 16 years by that time. I did not want to leave the marriage but he would not get treatment for his alcohol addiction. I ended up going to subsidized housing for a while because of my limited funds.
Natural selection. It can be the female's that doesn't have what's needed for a male to see them as a potential partner and mother to their offspring. That means they must work on themselves instead of being entitled of something that is two sided. Or that they think's they are entitled of a partner that doesn't exists that makes them self destructive.
Just because she is a female doesn't mean she is God's gift or are perfect by nature and shouldn't adapt to how society develops. The funny thing is that those delusional females gonna die out un less adapting just like the equivalent males since they not gonna spread their genes and people that are adaptive gonna avoid to take after those just like in the past.
Until the birth rate drops to zero, there really isn't a problem and thus nothing to bother trying to blame anyone for - unless for some russian reason they're trying to be divisive by misrepresenting progressive or conservative policies.
Like, the conclusions one would naturally draw from your question are absurd. Thus no one would possibly make that case unless they were trying to make everything associated with said case look absurd. Russian lies brought us Chernobyl, and it seems like if they learned anything from it about the dangers of misinformation, the thing they learned was how to weaponize misinformation to attack better countries.
No matter what happens, women will find a way to not take responsibility of their shit and blame everything on men. It's funny because they complain incessantly that women earn less than men, and yet here they are complaining that men don't earn enough and thus are ruining their chances of getting married.
That is false. What is really ruining women's chances is the fact that men don't want to get married anymore because marriage is a a horrible decision for men now compared to the past, and it is women who are to blame for that, not men.
Yes and no. If men have to make an effort to get a woman, those women that do not make an effort to find someone will be single because they choose to wait rather than takr initiative.
On the other part, nah... Men aren't responsible for the lot of women being single.
You can’t blame anyone for that but on the other hand, women are now able to have careers and choices. Back in the day, they couldn’t really choose a career over marriage, their only choices of survival outside of their parents’ home was marriage. I know a lot of women who choose to be single now because they can provide for themselves.
I personally don’t have time for a relationship because of my career and my life is plenty full without a boyfriend.
See I totally respect that but at the same time I feel like most women nowadays see relationship and marriage as weakness which is so wrong (Not saying you are specifically). They believe relationships is an opression tool or something and being in one means you can't provide for yourself and so if you aren't in one, you're more independent. But independence can exist alongside a partner. People fall in love for a far different reason than what you think it is. And by the way nobody said its impossible for a woman to land a man when she's older, its just less likely
Lol I saw that article it basically proves that women are all gold digging sluts who only like men for their money I mean there are literally stats behind it now. It’s up to guys now to act we now know women don’t love now it’s time for men to just throw women to side of the curb like dogs. It will be a long process cause of all the white knights but I think men are moving in the right direction
No, not really. This current development is exactly what feminists and left-wingers were advocating for. Disregarding all inherent biology of the sexes. Now you reap what you sow despite all the warnings that have been said the past 20+ years.
It's not like no one saw this coming. Many people did. But at best they were ignored. At worst they were witchhunted. So let's see where this goes. Might end up being the downfall of society as we know it without men who are actually getting shit done.
"Broke women are hurting American men's marriage prospects." said no commentator, ever. If love conquers all, then why so concerned about income? Or are these women planning on living off the wealth of the men whom they trap and frustrated because these men do not meet their wants.
Interesting question. No, I don't agree with that either. It sounds like more new elitist thinking that's supposed to manipulate men into shaping up for feministic 'empowered' wealthy women who want millionaire types. I don't like or want those women, so I don't care what they want.
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