Marriage on paper? No. I don't believe it is needed anymore.
You can still wear the symbol on your finger and pretend to be married, which I believe is far more meaningful than spending thousands on a ceremony which displays nothing than vanity.
Yes; there is!! The point of marriage is to make a PACT with another person to commit to one another for life. That's what marriage is. So if that's what you're looking for, that is the reason to get married. (Unless you can find a better written contract.)
... And the point of having a legal contract is so that there are consequences in place if one person renegs on their agreement.
Because humans are fickle, and the stakes are just TOO HIGH to leave that to chance.
So what would be the purpose in marrying then
To share a lifetime of love together.
Thanks for the MHO.
Well it has some legal meaning for example what happens to your property when you die or who can make major medical decisions for you if you are in a coma or something.
Other than that, I would say it is mainly a commitment, not to say you can't break that commitment, but there is more keeping you together than if you were not married as far as expectations and maybe legally also. So it makes things more stable which is important especially if there are kids. JMO!
Nope. It's just a legal contract with some minor "benefits" and significant drawbacks. You can be loyal and dedicated to someone without marriage even being a factor.
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u People who have had failed marriages, or who have never had a relationship that led to marriage, love to cry sour grapes and condemn marriage as a failed institution. I never see people with successful marriages ask this question.
If you have substantial assets, it is the easiest way to pass assets on to someone without the heir getting hit with an inheritance tax. Does not even have to be romantic. Yes, there are various trust instruments that can limit it, but if you want to pass those assets to someone free and clear marriage is the way.
There are a LOT of things in the Bible that need serious thought and explanation, especially in the Old Testament. Perhaps you've all seen this very famous clip from the West Wing, featuring Martin Sheen as the best President the United States never had.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/S1-ip47WYWc
No!
marriage serves no other purpose in life other than to be cucked up liability created to make sure we men dont live our lives free during the marriage and risk losing it all just by simply screwing up or not living up to the spectations of the wife that has nothing but her pussy to bring to the table
No it's about values, marriage isn't needed at all. In modern times it's painting a target on the back of the wealthier partner and we all know that is almost always the guy.
Technically premarital isn't a sin according to the Christan bible, it's adultery that is a sin. Jesus never spoke about it, and Old Testament law doesn't either.
Show me proof of that
Sure show me a Bible verse that saying having sex before marriage is a sin?
“Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.”
1 Corinthians 7:2 KJV
Fornication being sex outside of marriage.
@Exterminatore he said avoid, never said it was a sin. Where in the Bible does it say premarital sex is a sin?
Jesus never spoke about it, and there is nothing about it being a sin in Old Testament law.
@Subarugirl You win the award for most blatant hair-splitting of 2023!
https://youtu.be/TM8EXwemnYA
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman. (Just a blow job.)". Lol
@Jamie05rhs It's not hair splitting, I asked you to show me where in the bible premarital sex is a sin. The best you could do is a verse written by Paul that says to avoid it. If you go back just one verse Paul also said in 1Corninthians 7:1 " Now for the matters, you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” "
But I dont hear you advocating for abstinence all together.
@Subarugirl. That wasn't even me. Lol. That was the other dude.
Oh well the point still stands.
You have zero points. Lol
@Jamie05rhs my point is that the Bible doesn’t say that premarital sex is a sin, that Paul said to avoid it, just as he said to avoid sex all together.
So I’ll ask you the same question. If premarital sex is a sin where in the Bible does it say so?
@Subarugirl Exodus 22:16
"If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride-price for her and make her his wife."
Exodus 22:16 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/exo.22.16.ESV
@Jamie05rhs where does it say that lying with her is a sin?
I mean if you want to talk Old Testament law… I don’t see you advocating for the death penalty for adulterers… which is considered a sin.
Regardless that would have been law, not a sin.
Oh, so now you're moving the goalposts. Which means you recognize that what I said is correct. 😅
@Jamie05rhs you must have missed my first question…. Where in that verse does is say that is a sin? I’ll wait, because I didn’t see it
@Subarugirl You're missing GOD's point. Which is that a man shouldn't have sex with a woman that he isn't married to. (Hence the obligation to marry her if he does, to atone for his behavior.)
@Jamie05rhs okay you’re entitled to that opinion but where exactly does it say that it’s a sin?
@Subarugirl Does something need to be specifically labeled a "sin" for you to not do it?
@Jamie05rhs oh no not at all, I also don’t think that everything that is said to be okay in the Bible to be good things to do either….. but that wasn’t the point
@Subarugirl It sounds to me like you're just looking for excuses to justify your prior bad behavior. Even though you're married now and fully in alignment with God's plan. (Which I have always found rather curious. Why do these former wayward Christians always harbor so much guilt? Why can't you just accept that Jesus has forgiven you and move on?)
@Jamie05rhs haha I’m not guilty. I’m married for legal reasons not religious ones. And im not justifying anything because I didn’t do anything wrong.
It looks like you are trying to twist scripture to justify your own agenda. When did Jesus say that premarital sex was a sin? That’s right never..
Leviticus 18. This “sex chapter” lists all sorts of sexual prohibitions including incest, bestiality, adultery and other sexual sins. It’s fascinating, though, that nowhere in Leviticus 18 is sex before marriage condemned.
Then there is Abraham’s sexual relations with Hagar.. they were not married.
Then David and Bathshebah…. Solomon and all his concubines (not wives) though he had a bunch of those too.
@Subaru
It doesn’t matter if Jesus never discussed the subject it is mentioned copiously elsewhere.
Avoid. Why? Cause it’s ok. What would be the reason for avoiding it?
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Galatians 5:19-21 KJV
Notice it says there that fornication is listed right after and is separate from adultery. Other translations translate that word as “sexual immorality” and it states fornicators will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
I would add that’s not a complete list of every sin if not repented of and forgiven that will keep one out of heaven. It’s a sample list.
@Exterminatore according to Paul…. You do everything Paul said?
Last I checked it was Jesus that was the key to heaven not Paul. Which isn’t it?
@Exterminatore do you have any idea how much Paul’s writing contradict the rest of the Bible?
@Subarugirl I guess you missed the part about David being punished for sinning with Bathsheba. But I'll leave that alone for now.
And you're right; that's exactly what I said. You are forgiven. So accept God's forgiveness through Jesus and move on. Remove this chip from your shoulder. You don't need to dwell on it anymore.
And I already told you why premarital sex is wrong, but you chose to ignore it. I even quoted the verse for you.
@Jamie05rhs What about all of his concubines...
Actually no you didn't you quoted a few verses out of context... and didn't show me any scripture were god or Jusus said anything about premarital sex being a sin. The closes you got were a few verses taken out of context from Paul and some old testament law...
@Subarugirl No; they were completely in context. Your stubborn heart is just refusing to see the truth.
Again, I will repeat, for your convenience:
Exodus 22:16
"If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride-price for her and make her his wife."
Exodus 22:16 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/exo.22.16.ESV
@Jamie05rhs and what other old testimant law do you follow. If you’re wearing mixed fabrics than you are a hypocrite…. And Jesus did have something to say about those
@Subaru
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
2 Timothy 3:16 KJV
The Holy Spirit told Paul what to write. The Holy Spirit is the real author of all scripture who is both coexistent and coequal with God.
@Subaru
Those laws were given to Israel to follow. They are not for the church. The church and Israel are 2 separate entities. Israel was to be an entire nation of evangelists. That duty belongs to the church now. Israel was given some of those laws so other nations would look at them and say: “why do you do that?”
Additionally many of those types of laws were to point to the Messiah, whom Israel did not recognize. The messiah as come, and Israel has been relived of her duty until the Tribulation period.
As for the moral law of the Old Testament, that we are to follow. All commands governing morality are still in effect.
Show me where Jesus had anything to say about wearing mixed fibers of clothing. I assure you he did not utter one word about it.
If you sincerely seek answers to your questions I’ll answer them, but if your intention is to convince yourself or me that the Bible is contradictory or God doesn’t exist all so you can feel free to sin without anxiety I see no point to continue. Once we eliminate God and his commands we eliminate judgment, which allows us to sin more freely without fear of condemnation. Many a man and woman has done this and it is something Jesus addressed.
“And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, so that his deeds will not be exposed. But the one who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds will be revealed as having been performed in God.””
John 3:19-21 NASB2020
@Exterminatore So the holy spirit wants people to stay abstinent? how does that work since it also says to be fruitful and multiply?
@Exterminatore I didn't say Jesus said anything about mixed fabric but its part of old testament law.
Then there is the issue of whether man has seen god or not... because Jacob said “I have seen God face to face, yet my life has been preserved.” Numbers 12:8
all laws governing mortality is still in effect? So you think its okay to take a rebellious child before the elders and have him stoned and adulteress stoned?
The bible is the last thing id use as a moral compass... like have you actually read it? Rape, genocide, incest, infant mutilation, slavery, human sacrifice... I mean the list of issues goes on an on
@Subarugirl You're supposed to have children within MARRIAGE! So that they grow up in a stable household with both a mother and a father! What part of this is so hard for you to understand?
@Jamie05rhs I'm not talking about children... I'm talking about how the bible never actually says that premarital sex is sin, but the church like to twist scripture to make it sound like it.
@Subaru
1st Corinthians 7:1 is referring to sexual touching. The Corinthians had questions, being new converts as to what was acceptable. So, Paul starts out, “now concerning the things you wrote about” the very next verse is literally this one:
“But because of sexual immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband.”
1 Corinthians 7:2 NASB2020
Now what has that got to do with sexual touching? Simply this. There is a place where God fully allows sex and that is in marriage. God is not anti sex. He’s anti sex with everyone except a wife.
In fact not only is God pro sex in marriage, he himself honors and blesses it and in fact commands it. Yes, God commands sex in marriage. No limits to how much. As much as both party would like.
Song Of Solomon even has some very sexually suggestive poetry concerning the sexuality between husbands and wives.
So God is by no means anti sex. He’s just anti sex with anyone but a wife or husband in your case.
Where you’re getting this idea of abstinence from I have no idea.
In regards to Jacob it’s a figure of speech. Ever had a moment of clarity? And said….”I have seen the light.” Did you actually see light? No. It’s a figure of speech.
The stoning of the rebellious child was part of the civil law of Israel and not for us. You seem to object to that. Did you miss the part where it mentioned the child is a drunkard? What child at a young age is a drunkard? Who refuses to obey his parents on top of that. We’re not talking about a child with mental issues like autism. This is a wicked child. Who not only is an alcoholic…and lives under his parents roof, and eats their food, and uses their resources…at a time when people we’re exceedingly poor. He also refuses to help. Thinking it acceptable to be drunk continuously and then when told to go plow or harvest will not. Oh he’ll eat the food the rest plant and pick. But help? No. He’s to busy getting selfishly drunk.
@sabaru
The child there is probably akin to a sociopath. Certainly exceedingly selfish. And disobedient. The laws don’t apply to him. If he will not obey mother and father, who he sees, will he obey God? What about the law of the land. Certainly not. This child will do anything to anybody for self interest. He has no love or respect for those in his own household. Why would he for anyone else?
Why does this bother you so?
So the scripture says to take that child to the city gates where the elders are. And they will examine him and the facts of the case. They will then stone him to death.
This is not for a special needs child or autistic child, this is for a child with a hard heart who is selfish and cruel and will be a blight on society.
Easy enough to avoid the punishment by simply obeying mom and dad, but nope, not this child. This child is so willful he will disobey knowing the penalty for willfully and continually doing so could mean death. This child has not fear of consequences.
Sounds just like a sociopath.
It’s good you ask these questions. Before you form your opinion you should look carefully at things instead of just piggy backing off what some other liberal has said. These are not the first time I’ve seen these questions.
@Exterminatore Wow lots of assumptions and guesses at probably meanings there. Funny how you cherry pick what is currently applicable today and what isn't based off assumptions..
@Subarugirl Yes, you WERE talking about children. You clearly said the words "be fruitful and multiply.".
Stop lying.
I can't have a conversation with you if you're not willing to be honest.
@Jamie05rhs I am talking about contradictions, specifically in regard to what Paul wrote, not about having children. Your reading comprehension needs some work.
@Exterminatore What about the parts that the Church omitted or reworked to fit its own designs of control? Was that divinely inspired too?
@Jamie05rhs I'm going to throw gasoline on the Old Testament fire, my friend. See my post and the accompanying video.
@Subarugirl Your logic needs some work!
And my reading comprehension is just fine!
@Jamie05rhs lol apparently not
@Subaru
There is no cherry picking going on there. If you care to you can actually look up some of this in non biblical sources.
The elders at the gates were local magistrates. Their jobs were to make judicial decisions on this type of matter. Some of them were know as goals (I hope I’m spelling that right). They were know had redeemer’s. They at at times also made decisions if an avenger of blood could enter a city to arrest a person.
Do you really think a parent could just March a child to then and be all: “the little turd wouldn’t clean his room, so he needs to be executed.” Do you really think they wouldn’t examine the issue any further?
What point must a child be problematic for a parent to even consider this? What child who certainly would have known of this statute (remember scriptures were constantly read in the tabernacle or temple to all constantly) would persist in disobedience to the point of possible capital punishment?
Ask yourself, what child is an alcoholic? Where would a child get money to continually fund there alcoholism, especially in those times?
You need to be familiar with the history and culture to have a better understanding of these matters.
Do you really think God is so cruel he’d allow for capital punishment for frivolous issues?
Only a very hard hearted and very rebellious and willfully sinful child would persist in such behavior and we call that behavior evil. That child would grow to be a monstrosity. If they will do these things in the earliest days of their youth what will they do as an adult? If they don’t respect their parents authority do you think they will respect God’s, the kings, the police or anyone else’s?
There is no record for or against the being carried out.
Either way, critical thought and understanding of history and culture are required.
The Bible is not merely mechanical. If it’s a sin to be intoxicated, which would imply alcohol, it’s a sin to smoke crack, though crack isn’t mentioned.
@Subaru
In fact Jesus had to touch on this mechanical application of scripture only as the the Jews were guilty of this line of thinking. An example is here:
““You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Matthew 5:27-28 NASB2020
Here Jesus expands on the implications of the command. No only are you not to physically commit adultery, you are not to even desire it in your heart, which would be called covetousness by the way. Jesus made clear to desire to sin, though not act upon it is the same as doing it. He taught the same about murder.
What Good is it to think: “that guy made me angry but I won’t murder him in accordance with God’s commands…. but boy I’d sure like to, why I’ll even plot all the ways I’d like to do it, I just won’t actually do it.” That indicates there has been no change in the heart. A change of behavior is only one part of repentance as it relates to salvation, the other part is a changed heart. One that loves what God does and hates what he hates. It’s an indication of the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
I don’t think it’s wrong to have doubts and questions, but may I kindly suggest you carefully think and research your points of contention in regards to scripture? Every pancake has 2 sides to it. Don’t only listen to vain arguments made by supposed academics. Don’t be like them in that they refute scripture, yet never really bothered to look into all the facts regarding their objections. Their students will heed their objections, but never question the teacher or his material. I think it would be good for you to research matters from all angles and you will find most of these objections you seem to have will be satisfied.
Look up the Greek word for fornication. I’m fairly certain it’s the word pornea, which in Greek at the time had a heavy like to the concept of prostitution.
@Subaru
That’s how God views fornication. As a form of unpaid prostitution.
Many places in scripture God uses fornication or whoredom or harlotry as a synonym for idolatry and links Israel’s idolatry to it. It’s used by God many places as a metaphor because God views actual formication in the same way as idolatry. As a form of playing the harlot.
As for Israel who God often referred to his wife he also linked idol worship to adultery. Again, it’s a metaphor, an analogy to paint a picture by likening idolatry to other sins Israel knew were against the ordinances of God.
As far as Israel being made an evangelistic nation, and the church now having that duty as apostate Israel has rejected Jesus as a nation, you can look it up on your own and find out there are no wild assumptions I’m making there either. This info is not hard to find.
@loveslongnails
Sorry, didn’t mean to ignore your question. So which parts are those? I’m not aware of any changes but 1 and I’ll get to that in a second. The Bibles we have today are perfectly in line with the oldest manuscripts we have.
The only major change I am aware of is in regards to the apocrypha. The first major issue regarding that came around the year 300. I believe it was St. Jerome and another major leader of the early church that disputed each other as to whether it would be in there. 2 years later, the Catholic Church held a Councel and determined it should stay.
Around the early 1600’s it was taken out of Protestant bibles and lectionaries, the Westminster Catechism in particular rejected it as divinely inspired.
Recently I did a lot of research on it and do not believe it to be divinely inspired for far to many reasons to list, but I’d be happy to refer you to several sources and you can read about it if you care to.
That’s the only major change I’m aware of in regards to scripture in the entire history of the church, so over 2000 years of history now.
@Exterminatore
"The Bibles we have today are perfectly in line with the oldest manuscripts we have."
* I sincerely doubt that. There are missing books, like the Book of Hebron, and lost books, and books that have been intentionally removed.
Your faith is that the "Holy Church" is more concerned with dispensing the truth than it is about exerting control. I HAVE no such faith. In fact, I have NO doubt that the Vatican holds documents and information which they do not want the general populace to EVER know.
" The Bibles we have today are perfectly in line with the oldest manuscripts we have."
Who is "WE" ? "We" is what and who the Church wants you to believe, nothing more.
In regards to the Vatican and even a few situations in Protestant churches since the reformation you’d be quite right.
We know this because we have many historical documents that would indicate, particularly in the history of Catholicism that the leadership was much more concerned with exerting control than the truth.
Certainly today there are no shortage of false teachers, many of whom would be called televangelist who fleece people and swindle money. They too are interested in controlling people and their purse stings much more than the truth.
In regards to missing books, I do not believe there are any missing.
In regards to the contents of the Bible, you have internet access. You can very easily study the history of Christianity and learn when such decisions were made, by whom, for what reason and you can just as easily find criticism to any supposed doctrine issues regarding any matter. You have full access to the information to thoroughly research these things.
Also, in regard to the Vatican, even they openly admit they have many documents, but a very, very limited number of people at the Vatican can even be privy to know the contents of those documents.
“We” is all people on earth. All of us. You can just as easily research who translated the Bible’s we have, where the documents they translated them from are, and all other things pertaining to this matter.
In fact I encourage all Christians to research these things, and on any debate, to read the statements of both those pro and against any given issue to get a full perspective on any given matter.
In regards to the “Church” I am not Catholic. On Sunday I go to Church. Sunday afternoon I compare what the preacher said to scripture. I look at the original Greek and Hebrew, I study the geography, the culture and even the history of a location as it pertains to a particular segment. I take no one’s word for it. I trust, but I verify and anyone who doesn’t I think is foolish.
That said I do not believe most theologians, Or denominations intend to control via controlling information. It has most certainly been done and done wrongfully at times in the last 2000 years. Man’s error or intentional falsehood does not change God.
At the end of the day it is you who must decide to do with Jesus. To follow and obey, to ignore or to not believe in him at all.
Just remember, man’s error or lies do not change what God has said it has not. On Judgment Day, no one will be able to say: “I didn’t believe in you cause the catholic priests molested kids.” Indeed they did but their vile pedophelia doesn’t erase God or culpability. No one will be able to say in an age where we have unlimited info at our finger tips “I didn’t believe because of changes to the Bible or in church teaching, or because there are so many religions and denominations I couldn’t tell who was right.” All that need be done to discern the truth of such matters is research, and by that I mean serious scholarly inquire into such matters. On the Day of Judgment each of us will give an account of our decisions and ignorance in a time of easily accessed info on any subject will very likely not be an excuse God will accept. Perhaps he may ask you why you had time to be on GAG, or watch porn, or play video games, but no time to search for the truth as you seem to have your doubts. You had time to do everything on your phone, but study what is true and not true and the whys and how’s. For such a matter of importance it should be high on the priority list for those with doubts to get to the bottom of things. No one on Judgment day will be able to say: “I sinned because the devil made me do it.” “Or I did thus and so because Bob told me to.” We will all give an account of our deeds and choices and God knows the secrets of every heart. Nothing is hidden from him. I say that because sincerely doubting the truth, while failing to look for it will not be acceptable with God.
So my point my friend is make whatever choice you will in regards to any and all of this, I will not presume to tell you how to live your life nor pass judgment on you as I am not the judge. I’m simply saying, be sure that your sure in whatever conclusions you come to in these matters and that you are responsible for you alone and your choices. That one day we will all be judged and must live with the choices we made and the results of those choices.
@Exterminatore Internet access doesn't help me figure out what the Vatican is hiding, or has intentionally omitted from the Bible. It's not there, and they have intended to deceive for many hundreds of years.
I understand you're well meaning, but in my opinion, you'd be better off blogging than writing all you do on here, and you DO expound quite a bit. Everything you said could be summed up in these short points:
* whatever conclusions you come to in these matters and that you are responsible for you alone and your choices. That one day we will all be judged and must live with the choices we made and the results of those choices.
* At the end of the day it is you who must decide (what) to do with Jesus. To follow and obey, to ignore or to not believe in him at all.
Peace be with you.
@loves
Fair enough. You are quite right. Brevity is not a skill I possess lol.
On that note, in regards to the Bible and scripture, the overwhelming majority of scrolls and fragments from which the Bibles we have are translated are not in possession of the Catholic Church.
You are right in saying that you think I mean well. Thank you for saying that.
Peace be with you also.
@Exterminatore Thank you. I think you DO mean well. I also think that the Catholic Church became corrupted and doesn't mean well. I've heard it said that there are more satanists in the Catholic Church than there are in the Church of satan. That may be true!
@loves
I know you’re referring to various conspiracy theories regarding the Catholic Church. I’ve heard quite a few of them.
I don’t think there are really any Satanists in the Catholic Church.
I do however think the Catholic Church at current time is quite misguided by incorrect doctrine formed by incorrect theology.
More importantly though, I do not like the current pope and I do think he has evil intent.
I’ve head his statements about guns, gun owners, and gun manufacturers and that it’s all connected to evil. I immediately view that as suspicious as there is quite a concerted effort in this country as well as international pressure to essentially disarm Americans. I see that as conspiratorial in nature. Perhaps if many Protestant martyrs had arms there would have been far less of them dead as the Catholic Church would not have had such a monopoly on the use of force.
I also find him to be a blasphemer of the highest order. Promoting social justice and Woke philosophy which has nothing to do with Christianity, and often is contradictory to it. I find not social justice and woke philosophy to be intentional inventions and intentionally and constantly injected into every as deliberate attempts to brain wash unsuspecting people as it is disguised as virtue. I strongly believe these tools are being used to destroy nationalism and promote globalism with intent to erase all boarders, establish a one world government by promoting globalism and eroding national identity. With multiculturalism I see it as a deliberate attack on unique and individual cultures in an attempt to blend the peoples of the world into a homogeneous blob, and eliminate individuality.
I don’t think the Pope and Vatican are the leaders or initiators of this though. I think they are just another mouthpiece for it, one with global influence.
Lastly the current pope continually promotes not tolerance, but acceptance of homosexuality, transgenderism, and transvestitism.
All of those explicitly are defined as sin in scripture. I also take note of his constant attempts at ecumenicalism. The intent to fold all the denominations of Christianity and also Islam into one religion, under the leadership of the Catholic Church. He went so far as to elude that Allah and God are the same God and that Islam is a form of Christianity. That’s a blatant lie. During Covid he encouraged Catholics and all others of all religions to pray to there respective gods regarding the pandemic and set aside a day for us all to pray together. WTF? Why is the pope encouraging anyone to pray to any other god then the God of the Bible first off, and secondly why is he directing Catholics to have joint prayer with idolaters and pegans? That’s out right blasphemy.
I don’t want to jump the gun but all these things do very much look like the attempt to establish one world government and one world religion as predicted would occur in the last days in Scripture. The one world government being headed by the Antichrist and the one world religion which will be the worship of both Satan and the Antichrist being headed by the false prophet, all mentioned in Revelation.
I can see cause for concern with all this for certain, but I can’t say for certain that’s what’s happening, though it very much looks like the seeds of these things are being planted or even more than that, have started the earliest stages of formation.
What are your thoughts on these things?
@Exterminatore There absolutely are satanists in the Catholic Church. 100%. They have enough issues dealing with their own priests at the moment!! I think the Pope was making a "practical" statement that would appeal to the world. He could have simply said "Please pray to God" and left it at that. I don't put much stock in the whole idea of "Popedom" anyway. A bunch of imperfect men supposedly being given Divine Guidance to choose God's next voice on Earth? Sorry, I don't buy it. Brevity, my friend. LOL There's no room to discuss the Apocalypse here.
It's a legality. The state recognizes the relationship between spouses as special in many ways.
It signifies the love you have for each other. Anyone can date someone.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to be married. You can have domestic relationships, etc..
Why do you HAVE to be married, according to the bible
What does the bible have to do with marriage?
I already mentioned it. If you are not married and you have sex before hand, you are a sinner. So, accoridng to the bible, it is not ok to to not be married
@Asker The question you asked was "BESIDES religion.". And she answered you. You're the one who is bringing up religion here.
Really…only legal shit. Helps with taxes, child custody, etc. If you’re with someone you trust and neither don’t really care, don’t worry about it.
To have a partner for life and to pass on future children for future generations
Nope. Nada. But there are reasons not to marry.
It's a celebration of a beautiful union.
Necessary? No. It's a social invention.
Tax benifits.
Not really.
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