Is marriage just a piece of paper?

[Anonymous]

Talk about commitment means nothing if you're not willing to sign a marriage certificate. Talk is easy. Doing is hard

[Anonymous]

Marriage can be more than just a piece of paper - it represents a legal and social commitment between two people to build a life together and support each other through the ups and downs of life. For many people, marriage is an important symbol of their commitment and love for their partner.

However, it's also true that a marriage certificate alone doesn't guarantee a successful or fulfilling relationship. True commitment involves more than just signing a piece of paper - it involves ongoing effort, communication, and compromise to build a strong and healthy relationship over time.

For some people, marriage may not be a necessary or desired part of their commitment to their partner. It's important to respect individual choices and values when it comes to relationships and commitment.

Ultimately, the meaning and significance of marriage varies from person to person, and it is up to each individual to decide what works best for them and their partner.

[Asker]

people who tend to avoid marriage tend to just want an easy escape route when things get difficult. these people have no determination to making things work but rather rely on "luck " to the survival of their relationships.

[Opinion Owner]

Some people may choose not to marry due to personal beliefs or values, while others may prioritize their commitment to their partner and their relationship over the legal or social institution of marriage.

It's important to approach each individual and relationship with an open mind and avoid making assumptions or judgments based on stereotypes or generalizations. Relationships are complex and unique, and the decision to marry or not should be based on the needs and values of the individuals involved, as well as their shared goals and vision for their future together.

[LiamJHayden]

Under current law in the USA, it is a three party contract between the married partners and the state. The state retains the power to alters the terms and conditions at any time. In most places either partner can violate the terms without punishment, and terminate the contract without penalty. That does not mean that the partner who erns more will not have to pay, but only that under no-fault there is no penalty for cheating or otherwise violating the marriage contract.

[SamA_nold]

It’s a government contract, a piece of paper. Except for a few tax benefits, it’s worthless as a concept

[Asker]

its only worthless to those who aren't in love. if you're in love, marriage is so much more than just a few tax benefits.

[SamA_nold]

It’s the government giving you permission to love someone. And therefore giving you tax benefits.

Marriage isn’t necessary to love someone

[Asker]

You dont even know what marriage is.

Marriage is making two people into 1 under the governments eyes. Any money you make is also your spouses. Any debt you take on is also your spouses'

[SamA_nold]

So, as I said… it’s a government contract giving you permission to be in love with someone.

[Asker]

Any property you own, is also your spouses'. If you incurred a million dollars in medical debt, your husband can be responsible for paying for you

But your boyfriend has no responsibility paying for you

[Asker]

there's way more than just love to this

[SamA_nold]

If the government gives you permission to love someone, they’ll allow you to sign a contract to give you certain benefits.

If the government doesn’t give you permission, you don’t get to sign a marriage contract and you don’t get any benefits. But just because you aren’t married doesn’t mean you aren’t in a “real” or “valid” relationship

[Asker]

It has absolutely nothing to do with love.

your husband is responsible for paying for you. Your boyfriend isn't.

that's the difference.

you and your husband are linked under the government's eyes. you and your boyfriend are separate under the government's eyes.

[SamA_nold]

You said above its only worth something to those in love, so according to your words.. it is about love.

Are you suggesting that relationships are only worthwhile if each party is responsible for the other?

If you don’t like that, you can also do: the government giving you permission to make each other the property of one another. It really makes no difference…

It’s still a government contract, where you need the government’s permission to be in a “legally recognized” relationship, and get a few select benefits that the government is willing to give.

[Asker]

the government doesn't give a shit if you love your husband. Legally, marriage has nothing to do with love. The government doesn't care about love.

Marriage is the BINDING and LINKING two separate individuals together to be bound in almost every way for the rest of their lives. Such a thing doesn't exist in a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship. There is no binding. There are no obligations in a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship. But there are a ton of obligations in a marriage , not only societal obligations but also legal obligations.

[SamA_nold]

So you are agreeing with me then

[Asker]

For example,

if you and your husband stay at an Airbnb rental for vacation. You both get into a fight. Your husband breaks something in the airbnb and he refuses to pay for the damage. YOU will have to pay for the damage , unless you want the home owner to sue you for damages.

In a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship, YOU are not the one responsible for the damage. Your boyfriend would be obligated to pay for it, not you.

[SamA_nold]

So you are agreeing with me

[Asker]

yes, airbnb can sue for you and your husband unpaid damages, even if you did not break anything.

[Asker]

no, i am not agreeing with you. I'm just trying to explain what you don't understand

[Asker]

this is the difference between a married couple versus a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship

[SamA_nold]

Yes… if you get married, you sign a contract that gives you extra benefits… that’s literally what I’ve been saying…

Outside of those benefits that the government grants you… marriage is no different than any other relationship

[Asker]

You clearly aren't reading anything I'm writing. If you're that ignorant.

[SamA_nold]

You can call me ignorant. You are saying the same thing as I, you just don’t like that I’m reverting it to it’s basic form and not giving you special importance.

[Asker]

because you're never able to learn anything. thats why you're such a clueless person.

[SamA_nold]

K hun

[Anonymous]

yes. it's a legal agreement. why do you think divorce is annoying to go through?

[Opinion Owner]

when my friend got married, someone asked how married life was. she said the same... with pretty much a blank face. so there's all the proof i needed.

[Asker]

do you realize married people actually live longe than singles?

[Asker]

do you realize married people actually live longeR than singles?

[Opinion Owner]

and? what is your point? how does this fit the question? where is the proof in that? and just because someone is not married doesn't mean they're not in a relationship. where is the correlation?

[Asker]

there have been various studies over hundreds of years that prove that married folks actually live longer and stay in better health into old age compared to singles or divorced people.

[Opinion Owner]

LOL.

[Asker]

benefits of marriage tend to show up in your older years. Married older people tend to be in better health- mentally and physically. It has to do with the fact that both people have each other's backs during rough times. Someone to hug, talk to, share life with- prevents loneliness. Other studies have proven that loneliness can shorten up your life up to 15 years

[Opinion Owner]

pssst, you can also do all of that in a committed relationship, just saying

[OlderAndWiser]

Marriage begins as a purely legal definition of a relationship with certain rights and obligations. What marriage becomes is what you and your partner want it to become. And if your relationship fails, marriage did not fail you; no, you failed yourselves.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think a lot of guys are realizing it's a legal document that makes them pay out the ass in the end, and is usually ended by the woman for any reason (80% of the time) and that it's usually a cheating woman that makes the man do it.

Commitment my ass. The only commitment being made is the man's money or material possessions. The whores just cheat or end the relationship to get the cash and prizes 100% of the time it ends. Then when it doesn't end... you think that guy is happy or just henpecked into submission?

Work slave work! Happy wife, happy life you fucking tool!

[PeachyPie93]

Yeah a guy who won't commit doesn't love you. It's simple as that, all these guys saying they don't want to marry because they have money.. Then how can they pretend to love and trust someone when they can't even trust her not to fuck him over if it doesn't work out. That is how you can tell fake love is if they aren't willing to commit to you in a serious way after 2 years..

[hahahmm]

I believe almost all of the people who say it is just a piece of paper have excuses/reasons not to get married but they don't want to admit that marriage is a higher level commitment. That said... the number of people worth marrying has been shrinking fast for decades too.

[NamerOfStars]

Talk about commitment means nothing if you REQUIRE a piece of paper- a bond between two people has nothing to do with the government. Rhetoric is easy; trust is hard.

[Quackthulu2]

Well yeah, but in the same kind of way that the code of federal regulations is just a piece of paper.

[OfMiceandMen]

Marriage licenses are like currency, not worth the paper it is written on.

[OfMiceandMen]

... both are suppose to have value, but neither really does.

[Asker]

marriage is just a piece of paper, just like money. the value is entirely based on how much value you're willing to put on it. Someone who doesn't love money won't place much value on a hundred dollar bill

[clampfan101]

Politically, yes. But marriage isn’t meant for politics. It’s meant for the joys of love while proving your commitment to the vows of marriage that show your commitment to them as your partner in life.

Put simply, it’s a promise.

[WanderingLoveWizard]

Considering there's legal implications to getting married, I would say no

[BarryLiverstone]

Nope, marriage is honoring God by becoming one in His eyes and committing to your partner for a lifetime. It’s a blessing and forces people to stay and deal with tough parts of life.

[genericname85]

well it is a piece of paper like any contract but like any contract there's consequences if you violate the rules written on that paper.

[KatherineJ]

I suppose it could be, but I think most people see it as a lot more than just a marriage certificate.

[Quigly]

It's a legal financial contract, it doesn't mean a person is anymore committed.

It's no different than a cellphone contract, People break those all the time.

[paledreams]

I hear ya there 😋 especially when "I settled for less "

Obviously I didn't 😉

[paledreams]

However it is a legal document - that is important and a technical legal contract lol

[MysteriousDarkness]

Outside of taxes and stuff like that the rest can happen whether you are married, engaged or in a relationship.

[SolitarySolace]

You're right about doing being hard. Women can't even sign a fucking pre-nup

[DrPepper12]

Not just ANY piece of paper! It's a legal contract. That's serious!!

[Anonymous]

Keep telling yourself if you need an excuse to feel good about being single.

[najekim]

A marriage license is only for tax purposes.

[Anonymous]

Yes, marriage is a piece and also telling government worlds you're married for tax purposes

[dudeinohio]

It's a sign of commitment

[MrTaboo]

no. Its a promise to each other.

[Anonymous]

Nope.

[Jmmmfi4]

Not to me