Is marriage just a piece of paper or is it more?

[chocolatetwopointo]

[SnowyOwl]

there is legal marriage, there is romantic marriage, there is religious marriage, and there is spiritual marriage.

- Legal marriage requires paperwork, and its a contract, giving people some benefits and some responsibilities.
- Romantic marriage is about the emotional connection, seen as an ultimate display of love by many, and its about a lifestyle dedicated to each other as a whole
- Religious marriage is done in a religious institution and accordance to the rites, rituals, and doctrines of a particular religion
- Spiritual marriage is about the union of two people, and what that union and connection means and becomes beyond the material world, and how it transcends time and space

Spiritual marriage is the most difficult to understand, and most marriages are not spiritual. But in my opinion it's the most beautiful and meaningful of all.
A couple can be married in more than one of these ways. People who marry religiously usually also marry legally

[Apulu_backagain]

I really love this perspective.

[SnowyOwl]

@Apulu_backagain thanks, I'm glad 😊

[Apulu_backagain]

Sure! I never thought about marriage this way and it helps widen my view on it. Did you come up with this (if you did, then damn, you're one of a kind) or learnt it from somewhere?

[SnowyOwl]

@Apulu_backagain I bet I heard these concepts through life, but I wrote this from what I think/remember

[Apulu_backagain]

I see

[Shelly2002]

No it's more than just a piece of paper dear. It protects you from wasting your years on a boyfriend who will likely leave you after getting your pregnant and you would end up being another single mother who failed to get commitment (marriage) from a man. If you let a guy that's not even your fiance call you ''my beautiful wife'' and get your pregnant, you've been scammed big time because once he has everything for free, he isn't going to ever propose.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i won't have kids so that won't happen.

[Shelly2002]

If you don't want kids then that's different. Make sure to use protection. Though since you're just 16, you can still change your mind later on in life.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah no i won't.

[Shelly2002]

Ok. Time will tell.

[Summeroflove]

Well this depends on the marriage for some people marriage is a deep bond that is between them and only them. While other times people marry for the wrong reasons and the marriage goes south.

A lot of marriages end in divorce, that’s for the lucky ones who are miserable together for the rest of their life here, and then there are some that are basically roommates. But not all marriages are like that.

[Phoenix98]

Marriage has never been about the paper and it's so much more then that.

[ohsheeT]

Well it's both because it is just a piece of paper but

That piece of paper is a contract through God's eyes and states you are 50/50 no matter what goes on in your relationship you must love cherish and obey which I I don't believe in the obey word but it's a contract and with that contract you come in to this marriage together and when you leave if you have to leave it's 50/50 down the



But then now depending on why the contract was broken that 50/50 can go 20 80 you can go 75-25 it's just stating that the church had performed this wedding and God's involved

Me personally I don't need to have that paper and I don't need to have any contract I can go into things as me I can make things work and if the other partner does not want to make it work and we can go our separate ways

[chocolatetwopointo]

and if ur not christian?

[ohsheeT]

Well I don't know what you mean by that but I'm not Christian I'm spiritual but I don't put a title of religion on my name or before my name that's for sure

[Gwendoline]

It's definitely more. As a Catholic it's a sacrament, very holy. It's called Holy Matrimony for a reason, that's were that comes from.

Its covenant by which a man and woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life and which is ordered by its nature to the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring, and which has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament between the baptized. That is how the church defines it.

The piece of paper and recognition from the government is less important than the married couple in question, the church and God.

[electromagnetic]

Legally it’s a piece of paper but romantically, that can mean a lot to someone.
my husband and I got married because we really just wanted it to be the two of us. We got married in a religious ceremony as both our families wanted that. We only did the legal paperwork because it made it a lot easier for us to get the perks of being ‘a first time homebuyer’ and the extra little sprinkle sprinkle of benefits Canada offers couples. Plus he owns a lot of properly abroad and it makes it easier for us should anything happen.

[FreyaRed]

Depends on laws. In some countries everything you earn while being married belong in 50% to your spouse. In most cases it's irrelevant but getting a multi million inheritance is better to get while not being married.

[Darklydarkened]

It's an offshoot of agricultural revolution, and having a society that's based on plantations.

Nowadays, it's society in its most atomic form.

It's not useless, but it contradicts with a lot of current social structures

[nastyb]

this is why marriage will never last nowadays. because people like you, have no idea what marriage entails.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yh bc its pointless💀

[nastyb]

You won't know how to do marriage well if u dont even know what marriage entails

[chocolatetwopointo]

then tell me the benefits of it, i haven't got anyone giving me a valid answer to that question

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

Im not your professor. I dont get paid to teach you

[chocolatetwopointo]

then ur js proving my point💀

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

nothing has proven your point.

[nastyb]

you're just not worth the effort

[chocolatetwopointo]

and u did it again, u can't explain. that says it all.

[nastyb]

what proof do u have that i can't explain it?

[chocolatetwopointo]

this conversation💀 r u like retarded?

[nastyb]

this conversation is not proof that i am not aware of the differences between room mating and marriage.

[chocolatetwopointo]

then tell me💀

[nastyb]

you're the 3rd person i have to explain to in a week. im no longer explaining common sense to dumbasses.

by the way, if you don't wanna get married... i promise you that you will die alone. a boyfriend is not your family. he can ditch you any moment he wants

[chocolatetwopointo]

so u can't explain?💀 got it.. retard. ok and? is that a bad thing? why would i chose to be unhappy in life by being married?💀

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

because there have been studies that show married people tend to live longer and healthier lives than single people.

humans have evolved through millions of years to need each other. that is why all throughout history people have existed in tribes. Even homes tend to built next to each other.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok good for them, personally id think i work better alone. okay? that has nothing to do with marriage lol

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

everyone says they like being alone. but 90% of them are just faking and pretending to be happy

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok well im not one of them

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

thats what the 100% of them all say.

you have no biologically evolved to be a loner, hun.

[nastyb]

you have not** biologically evolved to be a loner, hun.

doing so will only condemn you to a subpar life that you don't truly want.

there is a huge difference between settling in life versus living life to the fullest

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok and? some people love being alone, like me. not everyone wants to be miserable with a man. if i live my life to the fullest ill travel alone or woth friends not guys.

[chocolatetwopointo]

did u know that most women who are single r happeist? its even been a study on it.

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

single women happier only because they have less of a workload. But once they grow old, they will find themselves all alone with nobody to give a shit about her.

Meanwhile women with children, will be able to epxerience the joy of having a huge family who loves and worries for her very much.

you will be left all alone, eating frozen dinners, staring at an empty wall in a silent house for Christmas while she has her 6 grandchildren, daughter in laws, sons, daughter waiting for her to come home for Christmas dinner.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay and? ur acting like thats bad? why do u think everybody wants somebody? i literally can't deal with a person longer than a few hours, id never survive being in a relationship. i would never feel joy if i had kids, kids r awful and idc ab being loved, i have parents for that. oh thank god, i literally can't wait, having a peaceful life, going out whenever i want without having to take care of a kid or a guy saying i can't wear this or that. and by the way i still have parents and a brother lol so i got no worries ab a lonely Christmas. id kms if i had a huge family, too much to take care of, having to yell at a kid 24/7 being ugly after giving birth, hell NO. not for me, u need to accept not everybody wants to be a slave to the patriarchy.

[nastyb]

your parents will die eventually soon... you will have no one to give a shit about you. you will spend your Christmas all alone crying in the bathroom. yea... you're happy... sure... keep saying that

[chocolatetwopointo]

and once again, i have a brother and i have friends. idc if somebody cares ab me i dont need it. why do u think everybody wants to be exactly like you? not everyone wants to risk their life while giving birth or having to raise ugly idiotic kids for a living, thats literal hell. not everyone is like you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

YES id be so fucking happy being all alone, no family, no friends nothing, id be happiest alive no joking, not everyone wants what you want.

[nastyb]

@chocolatetwopointo

we all know you want friends and family... you just can't get them

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg once fucking again, NOT EVERYONE WANTS A BASIC BORING FUTURE. i wanna be a rich SINGLE woman living in nyc. while you won't get a job or earn anything and never get to do anything + have to come home to screaming kids and them calling u a bitch when they dont get what they want, is that a future u want?

[chocolatetwopointo]

you really live up to ur name yk, someone can't accept not everyone gets knocked up by some middle class guy💀

[nastyb]

you definitely don't sound like a rich woman... you sound like one of those very bitter, jaded, semi mentally ill cat ladies over the internet who has no social life , nor friends , nor anything good going on for her.

rich ladies have tons of connections, a social life, have tons of knowledge, aren't jaded and bitter, love to work.

[chocolatetwopointo]

LMAO ok so what does a rich woman sound like?💀 LMFAO god ur jealous. who says i dont have a social life? who says i dont have friends? who says i dont have knowledge? and who says i dont love to work? who says im jaded and bitter? ill wait for an answer to ALL of these questionsz

[Anonymous]

under a traditional culture, marriage is a foundation for the nuclear family unit

under a gynocentric culture, marriage is a communist trap that punishes traditionalism and weaponizes kids to be used as pawns for the state

[RavVid]

It is a lot more.

It is a major liability.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[RavVid]

Best to not incur liabilities in my view unless it is for an asset that will increase in value.

[midnightmoon05]

Have you ask your parents? They can answer better than any of us.

[Anonymous]

It's much more than that. And no, you don't have the mental capacity to understand it, so don't ask.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ur acting like im 5, explain it to me, if not ur obviously js talking ba

[chocolatetwopointo]

bs**

[Opinion Owner]

No, YOU are acting like you're 5.

[chocolatetwopointo]

im not tho, explain now, ill wait.

[Opinion Owner]

"And no, you don't have the mental capacity to understand it, so don't ask."

https://www.starfall.com/h/ltr-classic/

[chocolatetwopointo]

so im js gna take this as you dont know what the point is, byebye

[midnightmoon05]

As long as you have decided to become a cat lady… why won’t it matters to you?
Do us a favor and Stick to your plan.

[Opinion Owner]

@midnightmoon05 Haha, agreed. I've been a member of GAG for 6 years this user is one of the top 3 most bitter, misandrist users I've ever seen here. She is no better than any of the incels here. They're all disguising.

[midnightmoon05]

The sad part is… more and more are like that nowadays…

[Opinion Owner]

@midnightmoon05 Yep, GAG has become femcel central lately, and this one is leading the pack.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so its bad i dont wanna be with men? and how am i bitter for being realistic. im looking out for my life. i have even know girls who got assulted and abused by their bfs, its actually not as uncommon as u think.

[midnightmoon05]

It takes two…
M/f both need to lear how to love…
It’s obvious that most are selfish and should stay single… so no one gets abused.
What did your parents say about this? How did they raise you?

[Opinion Owner]

@chocolatetwopointo My criticism of you has nothing to do with you not wanting to be with men. I think that's great tbh. Your problem is that you make a complete asshole of yourself here every day.

[chocolatetwopointo]

@midnightmoon05 it takes two to? and why do i need to know how to love? yeah sure, idc what others do, this is js what im gna do with my life. why would my parents care? they raised me normally? or what?💀

[chocolatetwopointo]

how am i an asshole?

[midnightmoon05]

I am going to move on from this negativity. Best of luck to you. Bye kiddo.

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmfao💀

[Pterodon]

Much more. If that’s all it is then no one should have a problem getting it

[chocolatetwopointo]

well why should we get it, thats what im asking

[Pterodon]

Well if just living together one can say fuck it I’m out of here at any time. Once legally married that becomes much more complicated

[chocolatetwopointo]

and? if they dont want to be together they shouldn't be, why should it be harder to leave somebody?

[Pterodon]

It’s about commitment.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wow signing a paper is such commitment

[Anonymous]

Depend on who you are married to. Some treat marriage as a collecting event and marry 4 plus times

[KrakenAttackin]

Marriage is a.44 magnum, three rounds, and a game of Russian Roulette.

[Crazzyyworld]

It’s a contract these days. It’s a temporary arrangement to get money in exchange of sex

[Abdulwahh]

To a religious person its an important aspect of life.

[katiesmuff]

It's much more especially in a legal aspect!

[chocolatetwopointo]

like what?

[katiesmuff]

In event of a serious accident who can make decisions for that person, If your living together financial issues arise, getting home loans, car loans etc. I could go on and on and by the time your old enough to think about marriage you'll likely understand what I am talking about.

[chocolatetwopointo]

why would car or home loans be better if ur married? nah u can go on, i won't wanna get married, im not you

[katiesmuff]

I didn't either at 16 or even 21, but things and minds change as we mature.

[chocolatetwopointo]

well i won't, bc im not you, once again.

[katiesmuff]

That's fine, everyone has their own ideas of life! You take care and have a nice day.

[Cute_User513]

It’s so much more! It’s a life long commitment!

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[Danny_dan92]

It’s a legal agreement

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[Danny_dan92]

What?

[chocolatetwopointo]

thats it?

[Danny_dan92]

Yes?

[chocolatetwopointo]

so its pointless?💀

[Danny_dan92]

Noo?

[chocolatetwopointo]

then whats the legal agreements

[Danny_dan92]

To be together

[chocolatetwopointo]

u can do that without being married

[Danny_dan92]

Yes you can. But that’s not a legal agreement

[chocolatetwopointo]

so whats the point of the legal agreement?

[Adel50]

It's a commitment.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how?

[Adel50]

Because when you're married, both of you are tied down with responsibilities and loyalty. This forms the commitment.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what responsebilities? people cheat in marriage a lot

[Adel50]

A husband's responsibilities to his wife and vice versa. And a lot more people don't cheat in marriage. Regardless, it isn't the fault of the marriage. Rather, it's the fault of the individual.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and those responsebilities r? people cheat all the time, no matter if ur married or not. yeah no shit its their fault, im js saying there's no difference or benefits of being married.

[Adel50]

For the husband — provisions, protection, etc. For the wife — homemaking, child rearing, etc. Marriage is a social institution between a man and a woman, of course there are benefits.

[chocolatetwopointo]

is it the 1950s anymore? then tell me those benefits

[Adel50]

Why does it have to be the 1950s? Financial benefits (especially for the wife), sexual benefits, companionship, better quality of life, etc.

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc nowadays a woman can't be a stay at home wife unless her partner makes over 6 figures. what financial benefits? what sexual benefits? u can have companionship without marriage. how is it better quality of life?

[Adel50]

I didn’t say 'stay-at-home wife,' I said 'homemaker.' As a wife, the financial burden has been lifted from you, and the husband is now responsible for providing. Marriage enables a man and woman to have intercourse with one another. Yes, you can have companionship without marriage, but you can also have companionship within marriage. Research suggests a better quality of life among married people.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay, but its still basically impossible nowadays bc of the economy. people have sex all the time before marriage. so whats the point of companionship in marriage if u can have it without marriage? and that research is?

[Adel50]

That would depend on where you are. It’s not the case where I’m from. People shouldn’t have sex before marriage; just because others do it doesn’t make it right. The type of companionship you have in marriage can lead to problems if it’s not within the bounds of marriage. You can read 'Happy, Healthy, and Wedded? How the Transition to Marriage Affects Mental and Physical Health'—it’s one of many studies on this topic.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and where r u from? ur not gna die if u have sex before marriage, religion has made it a bigger deal than it actually is, its ridiculous. why is it wrong in the first place? what problems exactly? or u could js give me a short summary

[Adel50]

I am from the Middle East. You're not going to die, but you're going to face a myriad of problems—issues like child support and custody, runaway fathers, single mothers struggling to care for their children, false child claims, false rape allegations, and more.

[chocolatetwopointo]

or js use protection?💀 that can happen if u get a divorce too yk after having kids. what does false rape allegations have to do with sex before marriage?

[Adel50]

Protection doesn't always work. In cases where it doesn't, marriage would be the institution that allows for just rulings on child custody. It can, but that's because the child was conceived during the marriage. It's easy to falsely accuse someone of rape if you're having sex with someone before marriage. During marriage, false accusations have dire consequences for both the accuser and the accused. The bond of marriage prevents such accusations.

[chocolatetwopointo]

abortion is an option, and most of the time protection does work lol. how is it easier to accuse somebody if ur not married? that makes no sense? u can falsely accuse someone if ur married, unmarried or never even had sex. it really doesn't tho?

[Adel50]

Abortion is murder, and murder shouldn't be an option. Forty-three percent of contraception attempts fail, which isn't a significant margin. As I mentioned, marriage is a relationship. If one spouse falsely accuses the other of rape, the accuser is likely to lose the benefits mentioned earlier.

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh god ur one of those🤦‍♀️ and wheres ur source for that? so what should people who dont want kids do when they have sex? what? ur making no fucking sense rn

[Adel50]

That abortion is murder? According to the definition, murder is 'the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.' The couple should have the child and raise it like they would any other child. At worst, they should place the child in the care of responsible adults.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wah wah wah wah. all of y'all r like that. until it comes to ur mistress ofc. and what if those parents grow resentment to that kid bc they didn't want it? thats usually the case. what parents?

[Adel50]

You don't seem to know what you're talking about. Everything I have said is valid, and there's no evidence against it. What mistresses are you talking about? The parents who conceived the children.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i am tho, abortion isn't murder its health care, its not valid at all. all the mistresses men have. omfg and if those parents grow resentment towards the kid they didn't want and starts abusing it, neglecting it and so on, what happens then.

[Adel50]

What is abortion? Is this what you resort to, accusations? So is that a valid reason for parents to abuse and neglect children, because they don't want them?

[chocolatetwopointo]

abortion is health care. its when u remove a fetus from a uterus. wdym with accusations? when did i say it was valid? im asking what happens when people who dont want kids become pregnant. it happens naturally bc of resentment. that would happen to me if i had a kid tbh lmao

[Adel50]

Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. Notice the word 'termination.' That implies the foetus would have to be killed as a result or as a prerequisite. The definition holds, because it’s usually a person who performs the abortion. You’re accusing men of having mistresses. Now, you see, that’s the problem with you. If you had a child, you’d resent it and become abusive towards it. Don’t you think there’s something mentally wrong with you?

[chocolatetwopointo]

but a fetus isn't a human so it can't be killed lol, it doesn't have a heartbeat or anything yet. well many women do have mistresses lmao. yeah did i say it was ur problem or anything? nope, if i dont want kids, i won't have kids. i hate kids.

[Adel50]

What do you mean a foetus isn't a human? What is a human?

[chocolatetwopointo]

when it comes to fetuses i think its considered a human after 10 weeks and then u can't have an abortion, i think so

[Adel50]

Then what is a human?

[chocolatetwopointo]

a fetus after 10 weeks🌝

[Adel50]

What do you call it before 10 weeks?

[chocolatetwopointo]

still a fetus, a fetus is a fetus until its born lmao

[Adel50]

So, according to you, a human is a "foetus" after 10 weeks, but a "foetus" is a "foetus" until it's born? So people that aren't born aren't humans?

[Adel50]

So people that are* born aren't humans?

[chocolatetwopointo]

nah thats according to doctors who do the abortions. according to me they become human at birth. no? the people who are born ARE humans. how did u get it to that?💀

[Adel50]

You said humans are "foetuses...'. You also said "foetuses remain foetuses until birth". So if humans are "foetuses", and "foetuses remain foetuses until birth", then people who are born aren't humans, since they aren't foetuses. And according to you, humans are "foetuses".

[chocolatetwopointo]

what the fuck r u talking ab now? a fetus is inside a womans uterus, until it becomes a baby when its born. its not hard to comprehend.

[Adel50]

I wasn't the one who said it. You did.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i def did not say ANY of what u said in ur comment💀

[dudeinohio]

It's a commitment before other people and to God.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym with before other people?

[dudeinohio]

Friends and family

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[dudeinohio]

That's about it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so its pointless, got it

[dudeinohio]

Not pointless to me.

[DaBiggestBird]

It is infinity

[msc545]

More often than not, it's also a problem.

[chocolatetwopointo]

elaborate pls

[Kelly6]

@chocolatetwopointo just a pepper to me

[Agape93]

Yeap.

[WowGIrl4ever]

Way more

[chocolatetwopointo]

im waiting.