My mom said when she worked in an office building 50 years ago, the building had 5,000 employees and only 1 person in the building was divorced. Now over 40% of first time marriages end in divorce. It’s only been 50 years and these changes have happened.
Marriages in traditional Indian communities often last lifetime due to strong family involvement, focusing on community / family goals over individual romance, lower initial expectations, emphasis on financial stability, and cultural pressures to uphold family honour. This maks divorce difficult and viewing marriage as a lifelong, collective commitment rather than just a personal choice. Marriage is considered as a relationship lasting soe seven birth cycles, and every time it is renewed again and again. It includes shared values, family support social networks, clear discussions on expectations before marriage, and a focus on practical compatibility rather than just lust and sexual aspects. Marriage is seen as a union of two families, with relatives and community providing a strong support system. Families usually examine compatibility based on financial security and employment, creating a stable foundation. Once if it is decided, strong commitment to each other and the family is driven by cultural and religious beliefs. Most of the things are taken care during the matchmaking process itself, often ensured better alignment in traditions, values, and backgrounds, setting a stronger groundwork. These traditional elements are still prevalent in most part of India.
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5 mobecause back then women were nothing without their husbands because they couldnt make money for themselves and werent even allowed a personal credit card. they would never survive without a husband, now they can, so they stand up to bad behaviour before its too late.
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The fact that they couldn't make money is a myth. During WW1 for example many women made money knitting socks and things like that. My grandmother in the 30s made money baking bread. My great grandmother in the 1850s owned an Inn. I wish people would stop spreading that myth.
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@Wraith_Cemetery Exactly. Women either DID make money, or CHOSE to do "work" that didn't get paid for (taking care of the home and family)
5 moBecause society itself has also changed. 50 years ago people didn't have friends with benefits. They never even heard of such things. You have to understand back then, there weren't as many people as there are now. They didn't have cellphones or internet peeking their interest. But I think most importantly, because they were raised right. They were told to find someone, marry, work out ur troubles, etc... now a days, people marry with the thought of if it doesn't work out fk trying to fix it, go find someone else. They are to lazy or scared to face their problems and always look for the easy button. Which is selfish. I think.
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It had nothing to do with God, morality or anything like that. Women were forced into marriage and to stay married to men come what may. It was shame and cohesion that was presented as morality.
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5 moDivorce laws changed. 50 years ago it was difficult to get a divorce. One had to prove mental cruelty or physical harm.
Then no-fault divorce laws were passed.
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5 moI personally think it’s because of these little devices most of us are using to be on here right now and then social media has made it even worse. Back then you couldn’t just grab a phone and look at anyone you wanted in the world and people weren’t tricked by what they see online and then end up holding people to higher standards because they believe what they see online is the way the real world is. Also connection and communication in general was harder back then so when you found someone that you truly loved you wanted to hold on to them! Where as now it’s so easy to pretend like people don’t matter irl because you have a whole world online! Love actually meant something back then whereas now I feel like a lot of people don’t know what love even is and just use the word like it’s nothing. People act like love is supposed to be this perfect thing and it’s just not. When you love someone it’s supposed to be unconditionally and you’re supposed to be there for them through the bad and the good. You’re supposed to build them up when something goes wrong and not tear them down but the second someone makes a mistake people act like they never even loved them to begin with which to me means they don’t know what true love even is. If someone makes a mistake you talk to them and you try to figure out a way to make it so that mistake doesn’t happen again but a lot of people think don’t do that. They either tear them down and immediately start thinking they should end things or they never talk about it and try and make things right and just wanna move on like it never happened which will always backfire and make things worse
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5 moA very good question. I am 74 years old and have been married to the same woman for 53 of those years. We are best friends and never go anywhere without the other. I help her with her projects because I understand that success is something built of small accomplishments that stack up and help anyone feel accepted and capable of social acceptance. We have had arguments but we resolve them through before bed time. When she wants something , she relies on me to provide and vice a versa. That goes from house remodels to guitars and banjos. We are team players and don't think of ourselves as individuals. Both of of us have physical challenges. So, we are very tolerant of peoples short comings. Dedication to each other instead of self. This is a concept that somehow is destroyed through affluence.
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5 moValues like humility, modesty, chastity, spirituality, and their careful upbringings led by both parental figures of father and mother were all in full practice and refined. Family court laws though still bad when this picture was taken, were less enforced to say the least and as you mentioned were not needed as often due to the marriages staying intact more often, however divorce laws were also enticing women and when the 2nd wave of feminism was leading into third divorces skyrocketed.
Social media killed it
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no women got rights, thats what changed it.
Laziness and a lack of honor. Back then, when you made a promise, it actually meant something. When someone went against their promise, it meant A LOT. You would lose basically all honor in society for doing so. Now, going against promises is normal and means nothing. Honor doesn't really matter now. The laziness part that other long comment kind of covered already.
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Oh, that was an or. For cheating, 100%. You can't just say "the person did something bad, I quit". You make a promise, you have to actually try. Try to get through it. If the person is scum, well, you shouldn't have married in the first place before figuring this out, but now you have a true reason for divorcing. Abuse is worse but another thing where you TRY, not just get depressed until you give up
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typical male🥱
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i feel like its common sense to know why women didn't divorce men back in the 40s - 70s. think about it.. when did women start to get equal to men…?🤔
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they do tho💀 women were shamed for wanting a divorce back then, men also abused them by the way.
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i meant it as a, they do still resolve their problems today.
is this a joke or smth? men abused women way more than women abused them bffr. and as i said, the woman would have nothing if she left him, where would she live? how would she get money?
yeah i agree those things still happen today - 5 mo
Some do. Most don't even try. (to resolve problems)
I never said men didn't do it more. I only said both sides did it.
Welcome to being born a woman. Your job was to find a good man. If you failed your job, you would have to hope your family will supported you. If you had a shitty or no family and made a shitty choice for marriage, then I guess you are stuck with a shitty life. Kind of like how a man would be in the same boat if you failed his job. There is also nothing saying that a woman can't develop the skills to do a job herself. Even in the OLD old days, women could still learn to sew or something else and make things, and then when her husband turned out to be scum, she could leave and use her skills to continue making and selling things. And now days, it's even easier for a woman to support herself. Wait, what were we talking about again? - 5 mo
true.
i doubt a lot of women abused their only source of income and stability…
yeah many women got stuck with an awful marriage bc they had to get married fast to have kids at 20 years old.
yeah ofc they could get jobs, but we both know it would never be in their favor. they were treated awful, paid less, let go for any tiny mistake and just simply treated unfairly bc men thought women couldnt do such stuff. - 5 mo
(abuse) You'd be surprised how often it's true. Not saying it's anywhere near 50%. Probably not even near 20%, but even 5% would be quite a lot.
Same happens for men. Just because a man is married doesn't mean he's happy.
You know you don't have to have an employer right? Sew some hats, scarfs, or other clothing and sell it to outside your home. Buying small items like that from individuals instead of businesses was VERY common in the old old days. The large stores of today didn't exist more than...100? 150? years ago - 5 mo
right.
you think anyone could survive off of selling hats for a living? especially a woman? - 5 mo
Only hats, no. Clothing in general. Yes. I'm not saying it would be a good life, but the woman already lost her chance at a good life when she choose a bad man. Life sucks, you don't get do-overs just because you made a mistake.
Plenty of men (and women) pursue a degree thinking they will make good money, go into debt, then get a degree that numerous other people got, and now they have debt and can't get a job because there are too many people applying for that industry and now have to go to some low paying job because they don't have skills for anything but the field they can't get a job in. Life sucks. Only thing you can do is be extra careful and do what you can to be prepared for it.
Also, to flip this argument around, there are also a lot of men that think they found a good woman, and then a few years after marriage, the woman divorces the man, keeps the children, and lives off his money despite leaving him thanks to child support. There are quite a few women that basically make divorcing men with money their job - 5 mo
not really choosing when she has to get with the first guy she sees or she will be shamed for life and never get one.
ur such a typical male.
then dont marry a bad woman then? i dont see the problem? you should’ve seen the signs - 5 mo
ok👍 yeah its womens fault ofcourse… it could never be the mans…
men vs accountability
who will win?
how am i a typical woman?🥱 - 5 mo
im talking about you never finding a woman🤦♀️
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Oh, that wasn't remotely clear...
As for why I can't find a woman, the majority of the blame is me not looking until I was past the best time to look. Also, it's not that I can't find a good woman, it's that I can't find a good SINGLE woman that is near my age AND that is also interesting in dating. The very few women I have come across that have met this criteria either just got out of a relationship and don't want to deal with dating for a while, or just moved states and again, they don't want to deal with dating right now. Wait, why am I explaining this to you? - 5 mo
we both know your personality is the problem. no woman wants a man like you.
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Funny, that's not my experience. If I was willing to consider someone that old, I know at least 3 women I could go date right now, but I no matter how great they are, I still don't want a woman 8+ years older than me. Not even sure how I feel about 4+ years older than me.
Let's say for the sake of argument, you are correct though. That means they are DOING THE RIGHT THING by not just settling for a man with a personality they don't like. That's what is SUPPOSE to happen. Both parties are suppose to fall in love with each other. That way there is reason to promise your lives to each other - 5 mo
who said anything about u getting with an older woman?
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right… we’ll say so…
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i do believe u, dont worry…
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uh what?
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okay?
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i dont know what you want me to do about that
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About gag? Nothing, I'm just letting anyone that happens to read my comment know that it is a thing. About the killed conversation, I'm just pointing out that you are the one that ruined it in hopes that somehow affects you and the actions you take in the future. I'm sure it won't, but there is always a chance.
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what actions would affect me in the future by ending a conversation?
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@Snowman84, You are suggesting that Cheating, Physical abuse, and Child molestation are things that are acceptable in the church based on the Idea of, "For better or worse". Based on my experience working in a Medical Examiner's Office for 30 years, Cheating begets Cheating, If it is good for the Goose it is good for the Gander, Revenge Sex. Physical abuse ends in murder because it amplifies with time. Either the abused gets tired and retaliates, or the abuser allows rage to get out of hand and the abused ends up on the autopsy table. As for Child molestation, I think it plays a major role in Gender Identification Situations. Females who are abused by fathers see masculinity as the only way to stop the abuse. "He wouldn't do this if I were a boy" "I don't want a relationship like mom and dads" " He beats Mom, I don't want to grow up to be like him." And of course, females can be the abuser as well. Careful.
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@Snowman84 they killed men who were pedophiles back then jackass
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@MikeMcMansion bro bffr no they did NOT. back then old men would marry fresh 18 yr olds maybe even younger stfu
5 moBecause back in the day if your husband beat the crap out of you there was nothing you could do about it. Women were essentially 2nd class citizens and effectively the husband's property.
Women were made to feel ashamed for not having a husband or worse still not being able to keep one. Should a woman try to escape an abusive husband then counsellors would push her back to him with the explanation any husband is better than no husband.
A woman's role was to shut up, make sandwiches, and spread her legs when he clicked his fingers. These days Women expect better from men and if they try any of this shit then the courts are no longer deaf.10 Reply
5 moBecause divorce was not a thing at all and women did not use to have careers or well paying jobs and had to rely on their Husbands to take care of them. People like to think that relationships were better years ago but trust me people in the past used to marry for stability and not love.
10 ReplyMarriages lasted longer 70 years ago due to
significant financial, social, and legal barriers to divorce, especially for women who often lacked economic independence, coupled with strong societal pressure, stigma against divorce, and different expectations focused on duty and stability rather than personal fulfillment, leading couples to work harder to resolve issues.10 Reply
Anonymous(18-24)5 mo50 years ago was 1975, the height of the divorce rate, at over 50%. It is much lower today, and less than 10% for people who get married over 30 years old.
You keep blocking everyone, I don't know how you expect people to answer your questions.
10 ReplyBecause people back then were more traditional and old-fashioned.
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5 moDivorce laws were stricter. Then there was the pill and the sexual revolution. Then there was feminism. And more people walking away from Christian values. A combination of these things has led to the breakdown of marriage and family.
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Anonymous(30-35)5 moBecause of morality. There was no porn 60-70 years ago as it's so much common now. No internet as well.
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5 moBecause society was not as pathetic as it is today.
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5 moSocial Media even when affair might of been easier to hide.
10 Reply851 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. people had lower expectations.
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5 moPerhaps, People were MORE caring.
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