What's So Unrealistic About the Hot Model Look?

[Anonymous]

Lately you hear a lot of girls say "that's not a realistic body" if they see a picture of a fit woman. I watch videos of girls looking at Victoria secret model's pictures and say "that's not a real body" or "guys should never expect a girl to look like that." And whenever someone tries to argue with them they say thing like "you're trying too hard or looking for attention."

Why is it so hard to believe a girl to look like this? And it's not just skinny people, but anyone who resembles a beauty they can't or don't know how to achieve. I don't look like this because I'm lazy and don't care enough to try. There is not average body because most don't have the exact same body. Not all girls do this, but a lot do and think it's fine.

A lot of girls look like this, and that's fine because we're all beautiful. But think if you don't it's ok to call others unreal. Guys get the same kind of thing but not as bad as girls. If a fit guy wants a fit girlfriend and seen as shallow for having standards by a girl who can't meet those standards so he has so lower them. Does that really seem right? We all have something wrong with us whether it's from uneven boobs, saggy butt, crooked teeth, or our attitudes, so why do we take the time to downplay others to boost ourselves? Because believe it or not we can meet those "unrealistic expectations."

Just something I had on my mind.

[Fathoms77]

As always, balance is everything. It's dangerous to start spreading the belief that women should look a certain way, which thereby applies pressure on every young woman on the planet and that pressure can result in a series of crippling issues. This whole "thigh gap" insanity is just one example.

On the other hand, if you go too far in the other direction, you're back to the "oh, everything is okay" crap that has been systematically decimating our society for years. Yeah, a woman can look good if she takes care of herself. Calling it "unrealistic" is just a lazy dodge; you get to accuse other people of being narrow-minded while you sit around and do nothing.

There's a very big gulf between anorexia and looking at a regular ol' healthy woman and screaming about how it's "unrealistic." :)

[myTake Owner]

Yeah, I agree with you on the thinking every should be this way and everything else you said

[EllieLexis513]

It's unrealistic because not everyone has that body type (endomorph vs. ectomorph vs. mesomorph)

That and pizza is life.

[myTake Owner]

That doesn't make it unrealistic just because everyone isn't like that. But I agree pizza is life.

[zagor]

If you eat a lot of pizza then, yes, looking like that is unrealistic.

[myTake Owner]

I'm totally fine with that if that means always having pizza. Some do because of genes though.

[Oram52]

Sure if they have different body type but for majority its not unrealistic, just requires that extra effort. I don't know the % between endo/ecto/meso but for most model body is achievable if they desire. If then with different body types they can still be fit and slim.

[EllieLexis513]

@Oram52 I never said it was completely unrealistic. And being fit and slim doesn't necessarily mean you look like a model, either.

[Oram52]

True but that's the height part.

[EllieLexis513]

@Oram52 Yeah, but it's still unrealistic to think everyone can look like a model because we aren't all made or built the same. Height is definitely part of it. You can't just push it to the side because it doesn't fit in with your opinion of the question.

[Oram52]

I wasn't trying to and OP wasn't either. The title of Take was changed. I guess I misunderstood your answer because there are people who use their body type or body as an excuse not to be healthy. I was taking a step further that no matter what the body type you can be slim and toned.

I wasn't trying to brush it aside, as far as my understanding goes both ecto and meso can attain slimmer figures, meso would be more curvier. So sure at least most people with good effort can attain slimmer figures.

[myTake Owner]

I don't think everyone should look like a model, just don't shame those who do.

[nalaa]

In the words of Cindy Crawford "I wish I looked like Cindy Crawford"

The images you see in magazines and online are very much fake. there's photoshop, but thats only half of it, right pose , good lighting and stuff like that makes a huge difference and can't be replicated all day everyday. for example VS model Anne Vyalitsyna just running on the beach

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She doesn't look awful by all means, but its not quite this, is it?

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And yes exaggerated posing, filters and even photoshop are rampant on social media even among amateurs, like the right side of the last pic you posted.
I mean the last pic is completly overusing everything I just said, its too ridicoulous to even take serious.
The middle picture also obviously uses all of the above, if to a lesser extend. And she's wearing clothes, if she wasn't, youd see rolls. Thats just the thing, they never show that in pictures

On a second note, models almost all of them are underweight by BMI. Even anorexic (which is not the same anorexia nervosa ).
And every few years they make headlines with their extreme diet. Like Adriana Lima not eating a week before the show and not drinking 24 hours before it. Or megan fox describing her diet as "awful". So whos to say its unrealistic, if you can look like Adriana Lima or megan fox, all you have to do is be underweight, dont eat, water cut and be miserable.
And thats another thing. Being thin means you have bones sticking out. Bones that are then photoshopped away, because they look gross and frankly too thin. So they just keep the thin frame in the final picture without showing the "consequences" of being thin. And thats just not realistic

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I hate it that whenever you voice concer about beauty standards as a girl, you're labled as jealous or a hater. And there have been many historical beauty standards that awful for women. Think of Lotus feet. Dont just assume men will like what is healthy, its soooo much more complicated than that and have proven to fixate on bodies that are unhealthy and I dont think obsessing over underweight bodies is any different

[godfatherfan]

Because the majority of people are not born into the "pretty people" club. Sure it is easy for those in that catagory to think "why is that hard to believe". The fact is that most of us have realistic expectations. Why the magazines of the world play to those others I don't know. The fact is I would not bother with the "super hot model" woman even if I could get one. More times then not, she is going to be a high maintenance, shallow person. She will have every "pretty person" male going after her and she will always want the latest and greatest. You want the most "real" woman? pick the 3rd best looking at the table. Based on how the women think, not the man. Because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have had mad crushes on women that I thought were model beautiful, where friends thought she was ugly even. Same with my idea of some of the women they wanted. I like a woman with meat on her bones, not some super skinny woman. Someone that isn't going to be on a constant diet, or worry about what other people think.

[myTake Owner]

My title was changed, so most people think I'm talking about models. I don't expect everyone to look good, or fit. Just why is it so hard to believe people can look that way.

[godfatherfan]

because most can't. sure if you want to be miserable you might be able to be super skinny. I was able to do that but that was due to being bulimic. but no everyone has model good looks. So it is not possible for most to be like those pictures.

[Girl7150]

Just adding that it's incorrect that you have to be miserable in order to be very skinny. Ehm no? Some people are naturally skinny like myself, I was just lucky I guess but I'm pretty pleased..

[frozenhorizon]

Why do men always say that the "super hot model" women are high maintenance and shallow? What is the reasoning for this?

[godfatherfan]

@frozenhorizon it has been proven by studies time and again that the "pretty people" of the world have a much easier life then the rest of us regular folk. Women take that to a whole other level. The model or super gorgeous women have everything handed to them. they get any guy they want. They have most of the rest of the guys gawking at them ready to do whatever they desire. They are high maintenance, stuck up Cu**'s plain and simple.

[KRIEL55]

i think the reasons why people say its unrealistic is because we all still have the old version of model in our minds. a completely flawless woman. these days anyone can be a model. there are catwalk models, magazine models, video vixens, petite models, plus sized models, basically women of any shape and size can model. the ones you posted do look average and i dont see any photoshop but the most popular models now are now curvy models who look like this

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and this

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and this

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all have plastic surgery and use photoshop. of course some women naturally have extreme curves, but the majority buy their curves and get praised for it. that is why so many women say it is unrealistic

[SinisterS]

First of there is something called genetics. Then working out come in to play. But when it comes to someones taste "de gustibus non est disputandum" Some guys dont like skinny girls, some like girls that have some muscles here and there, some like skinny, some like chubby... Probably majority like something at middle not fat not skinny or would not have problem with shapes that are at middle. Anorectic look is ugly, stupid and extreme dieting looks without actually working out is not that appealing. I guess we all look by default for something healthy or healthier for our mate and that includes balancing your eating habits and being physically active. But its stupid to expect to be front cover model or mr. olympia if you dont have right genetics. Sometimes guys actually like more some normal girl with non model looks than front cover model looks. Yes some guys and girls have crazy or unrealistic expectations cos no one is actually perfect. Problem is when media or magazines sell something that is unhealthy as trendy and usually girls think its that or nothing then do some extreme diets or who knows and ruin their health. Healthy is sexy and by that its not just physically good shape but also psychically.
O and did i say if something is product you try to make it look best that it can so girls on cover even when having nice shape end up with some Photoshoping.
Balance and health is key word or should be.

[Anonymous]

People say they can't look like a model because most of the time it is literally true. People are so convinced that what they see on a magazine cover is real, but it's by the model's own mouth's, hours of hair and make-up and then even after they're made to look like that, someone comes in later and digitally removes all their freckles, and straights their crooked tooth, and adds more volume to their hair, and lightens or darkens their skin, and removes every stray hair and wrinkle, and then sells it to you as, oh look how beautiful this person is when a lot of the image is faked in some way.

Now what about "real" women who do look like the first pic. That's awesome, I'm happy for them but it's still unrealistic to believe every woman can achieve that look. Most women or men can be healthy, and be active, and take some sort of care of themselves, but for some genetics has determined certain things about the way they are shaped and will look and their heights, boob size, etc that can't be "earned" with exercise and dedication to some crazy plan. I think that is the distinction and why I think to some extend there is truth in saying, you'll never be that model b/c they are their own person and so are you and trying to look like them and not you, isn't a healthy goal. We have to be the best our bodies can be.

[myTake Owner]

I get that, I agree people shouldn't chase that look. My main point was saying like the girl in the first pic what's unrealistic about her. My title was changed, I guess to get more opinions. It was something like "What's so unrealistic about the fit body look." I think everyone should be themselves, but they don't have to insult others to do that.

[Anonymous]

There are certainly girls out there who look like that. It's just that some girls go too far to try and achieve that look. I think some people feel the need to insult those bodies to make those girls feel better about themselves. There are some girls who are naturally like that, and then there are others who have to work hard to get that, and then maintain it.

I hate when people insult one body type over another to make a girl feel good. While they're making one woman feel better about themselves, they're making another feel bad.

I also disagree with calling someone shallow for liking that body type. Everyone has preferences and they have the right to go for them. There are guys who like skinny girls, and there are guys who like chubby girls. They're allowed to be attracted to what they are attracted to.

And this is coming from a woman who is ugly, and who definitely doesn't have a perfect body. I have some belly fat and a masculine face. I'm not any ones preference but I've never called a guy shallow for it. I mainly just have self-hatred for myself.

[myTake Owner]

Girl rock that body. It's ok I get how you feel because I'm like that too. But sometimes you have to be your own model.

[Anonymous]

I believe that the attractive model is a combination of a thin physique and some digital manipulations to hide blemishes, no matter how tiny. Women are naturally born with pubic hair, but having pubic hair is considered ugly in recent times. So, there is pressure for women to look bare under there. Pornographic media may have standards about the "perfect labia" or the "perfect breasts". Therefore, the hot model, as portrayed in the popular media and pornographic media, is unrealistic and should only be used as a metric for ideal female beauty based on present cultural standards.

Beauty does not always correlate well with health. In ancient times, Chinese men liked small feet, so Chinese women had their feet bound by their family members to be marriageable. This was detrimental to the women's health, because it crippled them to walk like normal people. Forced to be disabled and weak, they were made to be submissive wives for their husbands.

If you know you are ugly, then you don't have to try to make yourself look beautiful. Beauty is highly subjective anyway. Just make sure your weight is within normal BMI range, and your blood pressure, blood sugar, and cholesterol levels are normal. If you are female, then make sure you have normal monthly periods. Wear sunscreen, sunglasses, a wide-brimmed hat, and clothing that covers a lot of skin. Preserving your health will make you live longer, which should be priority.

[vishna]

What's so unrealistic about the buff guy look?
A lot, it would take a lot of protein, gym time, and who knows what else to make the naturally skinny guy into a buff model guy.
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even after working out, this guy still isn't like Jason Mamoa.
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Same goes for ladies, not all of us are meant to be lanky models with perky boobs and perky butts. And that's ok because everyone shouldn't look the same and people shouldn't be pressured to fit into one mold to be hot.

[myTake Owner]

but that doesn't make their body type unrealistic. My title was changed so people think I'm talking about models. I simply mean fit people, natural curvy people, or big boned beauties. sure it's unrealistic for everyone to meet those expectations because of genes. But it's not unrealistic for people to be able to have that kind of body

[vishna]

It's not unrealistic to have that body type, but it's unrealistic and extremely dense to expect all women to look a certain way. So, yea, I agree, it's not unrealistic because it happens, haha. Just like J. Lo's fabulous butt happened. I think people say it's unrealistic to expect every woman to look like a VS angel or have a big butt/big boobs, flat stomach, no cellulite, - basically, all those combinations that a minority of women have and do have mostly because of genes... or money. Yea, a lot do work for it, but a lot don't.

[Heymonyo]

A lot of the 'buff guys' girls post up are on steroids. The bottom just isn't, and top guy is more likely on than off. Girls have no idea the amount of guys on steroids, Ask the Banana Guy. He can give some first hand info

[vishna]

@Heymonyo Don't tell me Jason Mamoa, the Khal Drogo dopes :'c
I believe it though, there were some guys at my old high school talking about steroids! Crazy to think about.

[Heymonyo]

I don't know who those are specifically, but a lot of actors do

[Rainie_]

It's not unrealistic at all. Some people are just lucky to be born with nice bodies, and others can personally achieve a nice body themselves if they made the effort. People are just lazy and would rather say something is unrealistic instead of trying to actually achieve it. But by saying that they put down people who actually have these bodies and say they are not real. Are they supposed to feel bad or something? I think it would kind of be an insult to those who actually do work out very hard for a nice body and tell them their body is unrealistic. What the actual fuck?

[myTake Owner]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

[-Bokie-]

Totally agree

[MG-TOW]

"The unrealistic look" does not truly exist. And other side it does exit.

Most of my live I have been in entertainment. like music, video and photoshoots. So I know these "unrealistic" models. The models that you see don't look like that in real life. Some of them are actually called ugly in real life. I know girls that do photoshoots all over the world for big magazines. They are all called ugly or unattractive. Another friend of mine does photoshoot for all major fashion magazines. The girl she shoots look terribly average in real life. But if I show people the pictures they say they look "unrealistically beautiful".

I have had shoots with girls that look average but when picture are taken every woman wants to look like them. It mostly shooting them from a right angle, photoshop, being able to look natural in front of the camera.

[myTake Owner]

I'm not talking about models, my title was changed. I'm talking about fit people or those who are born certain ways

[NatashaBeauty]

No body type is unrealistic all body types are achievable. Just like lots of girls like my body they started making rumors saying I had butt implants and liposuction at the age of 13 but that's illegal. I've always been told that I look like a model and that I should be one and my body isn't unrealistic that just something to say to girls to make them feel better.

[BiscuitesSwag]

The VS model look is impossible to achieve for most women (not unreal, just not meant for everybody). There are 3 main body types: ectomorph (like VS models), mezomorph (easy to gain muscles and most of the time it guarantees an hourglass body shape too) and endomorph (they have a hard time losing weight and they are just naturally stockier).
I agree with you that they shouldn't say it's an unrealistic body, but we also shouldn't expect everyone to look like that (because well, it's not possible for everybody), get what I'm saying?

[myTake Owner]

I agree, I'm not saying anyone should be expected to look like a model. Just that we all have different bodies and you shouldn't call someone with a body different than yours unreal.

[cavmanier]

I agree it's not unrealistic to be in shape or fit. Trying to have that low body fat percentage isn't really realistic when trying to consciously restrict calories (using willpower) when eating a typical fast food and pizza majority diet while having certain genes (especially while having an endomorph body). The foods taste is hard to resist and it's not filling per calorie eaten vs the non pizza and burger, etc diet. Certain people can eat pretty much what they want and look that way until a certain point though.

Of course a body like that is probably fairly possible for most people with certain diets and lifestyle. There are diets a person can eat as much as they want of certain foods which I think it's realistically very possible.

[vonasaurus]

there's no one way to be~ if that were true, then we'd all be a bunch of narcissists dating ourselves.

yes, some people are fat because they're lazy, or skinny because they starve themselves. but to assume that's true for all is willfully ignorant~ there are medical issues (hyper/hypothyroidism), side effects of medication (certain asthma meds and antidepressants can cause weight gain), mental illness (some people are emotional eaters, while others purge to ease stress), diet (anorexia can stall your metabolic function), genetics, and many other things that can contribute to someone's shape/size.

i've always said, promote what you love instead of bashing what you don't, and those who truly love themselves don't need to prove it by insulting others.

[myTake Owner]

I know we all can't be the same and I agree promote what you love. What do you mean be there's no one way to be.

[vonasaurus]

when i say "there's no one way to be", i mean that there's no universal body type (or any other physical characteristic, really) that should be the standard for one and all. what's normal for some may not be for others, for various reasons, and the same could be said for personality traits as well.

[myTake Owner]

I agree on that

[Shorty1991]

Of course it's not unrealistic to obtain this type of body if your willing to work really hard to get it. It takes time and effort. A lot of people don't have the will power to keep going. Some people achieve that goal, then stop exercising and go back to over indulging. All that efforts gone out the window and then they are back to square one again. I don't have a model type body and I'm really not that fussed about achieving one. I'm average build with a broad frame, I have a little bit of padding which I would like to tone up a bit. I do have shape, which i would like to maintain. I wouldn't like the thought of bones rubbing together while having sex. Lol! When I exercise I do it for my own benefit, not to fit other peoples idealisms. I hate body shaming full stop. People just need to accept that everyone comes in all shapes and sizes. Skinny, athletic, average, chubby, obese. Just stop picking on each other and enjoy life.

[myTake Owner]

My title was changed, I was really talking about fit girls, girls with natural curves, big boned beauties. The kind that just have it and are called unreal for it

[Shorty1991]

Ok. I see.

[popsickle]

It's unrealistic to expect an uncommon look unless you've got a lot going for you. Just because you've seen people with a model body doesn't mean it's common. I rarely see it and I've lived in multiple countries. Of course they are still normal human beings. Why does it matter? If someone expects something uncommon, he's probably gonna be doomed to disappointment. Model kinda beauty thrives on the fact that their beauty is rare. They tower above women in height, they spend most of their money on their moneymaker bodies, they have unique memorable faces, they have the best stylists doing their hair, they have personal trainers, they have professionals taking their pics, the best outfits for their figure, etc etc.

[myTake Owner]

I'm not saying you should expect others to be that way. I'm saying why do people call it an unrealistic body when it can be achieved. I don't think you should change yourself just because someone else has. But I do believe it's wrong to call others unreal for it. My title was changed a little so that's a lot of people think I'm talking about people in magazines.

[popsickle]

Unrealistic isn't the same as impossible. Unrealistic means it's possible but unlikely. Do you see the difference? It's like how a parent of a hardworking but straight C student expects an Ivy League score on the SAT. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? No. Most straight A students don't even achieve Ivy League scores so it would be unrealistic for the parents to expect that out of their kid. When it comes to models... no one can change their height. Average height is around 5'4". Models are at least 5'8". They are naturally proportioned differently. No affordable plastic surgery can change height and proportions. Most people have no reason to spend as much on their bodies as models do. Fitness is a lot of dedication, and models get help for that. Some average folks do it too, as a hobby. It's not common though. Common things are common and fair to expect.

[myTake Owner]

Sorry, I agree that it's possible, but not common. Just when I use the word unrealistic. I actually mean it's not real at all. And even though I know a lot of people mean it as that. It is kind of rude to call someone who is like that "unreal." I'm not saying in anyway people should always expect that from people. Mostly I mean fit. From women who work out almost everyday. Like I said my title was changed so it seems I'm talking about models you see in magazines.

[popsickle]

Some people are just born with model looks, so of course it's possible. I think some people are jaded by the beauty standards imposed on them since a very young age so when they talk about it, there may be some bitterness. Unrealistic isn't an offensive term though, maybe you think that it is... but I've never seen it that way. Saying a model isn't a real woman is offensive though. Haha I guess it's just a play on words then.

[myTake Owner]

I guess so

[Fearless_banana]

It's very realistic lol. People just like to bring everyone else down to their level. They see an amazing beautiful body and instead of saying wow I should put in hard work so I can maybe look like that... they resort to "that makes me feel insecure... I don't like that" It's quite pathetic. All of these "normal" model advocacy movements are ridiculous. Their version of 'normal' is slightly overweight and terrible proportions. Only the elite should be models..

[idiotmanchild]

Completely agree. Getting a great body takes years and years of hard training, but people expect to get it overnight and if they don't, they try to take those who've put in the work down to their level so they can feel better. Sure, it's definitely harder work to have an amazing body for some, but certainly not impossible.

[ichot]

"People just like to bring everyone else down to their level."
Women can be the most vile creatures to each other.

[becca123]

If my only job was to work out and look good with trainers, stylists etc of course I'd look like that. I live in the real world of a 48 hour work week and parenting a homeschooled kid. It's not in the cards that I wake up at 3am and go to the gym prior to a day shift, or that I go in between my night shifts when I need every drop of rest for the next one. I do, however, pay attention to diet and my lifestyle is far from sedentary. I am in shape and proud of my figure, my dress size and weight. If I start to add a few pounds, I notice immediately and adjust my food intake accordingly.

That said, I'm putting the kid into school a few days in the fall and intend to join a gym.

So anyway, "realistic " means that most of us can't afford trainers and haven't got the time to dedicate hours each day to achieve that look or maintain it.

Watch what you eat, get off the couch, work out as you can.

[meowyumyum]

It is realistic for some girls but not all. I see girls who work out and eat healthy and still don't look like that. It is unhealthy to look at a model and have the belief that you have to look like that. The boobs and city that many of those models have on a thin body like that is pretty unrealistic for about 95% of women. Most women who are thin like that will not have those curves. Just eat healthy and exercise and don't worry about what magazines say. I do agree that some women look at them not being able to look like that as an excuse to stay unhealthy but to say that all women can look like that is untrue.

[-Bokie-]

I think people tell themselves it's unrealistic because they don't want to feel bad. If you work hard enough and eat right like these models you would probably look like them. There are some girls that naturally look like that and trust me I'm not one of them. I don't think it's unrealistic expectations though most of the models I see today look healthy. You can achieve anything you put your mind to. The only thing I think is unrealistic is that stupid thigh gap think, if you don't have the bone structure for it your not gonna get. It's sad that some people starve themselves trying to get this. If you have it you have it. If you don't you don't.

[Oram52]

The confusion seems to stem from the "model" part, having the model look. Of course anyone can get the model look if they have the height. But even without height they can be slim and have the model look simply wouln't be runway/editorial models where height is required.

So yes model look is achievable for everyone if they are willing to put in the effort. A lof of people have model look, its sad its become an anomaly that some people try to put down people who work hard to maintain attractive bodies.

[myTake Owner]

yeah, my title was changed. As you can see in the whole article. I never mentioned models. Just people who are naturally beautiful or those who work for it. Everyone is beautiful, but we have different body types. Like someone who works out everyday to achieve a certain body, but then are called unreal