Trust me, women are just as shallow as dudes. Most women only want the top 10% of alpha males out there who have wealth, money or fame. Dudes have always been ready to downgrade their expectations and love an average chick for life. But the same is not true for women. Look up the word HYPERGAMY. This is strictly a female characteristic. Men don't give a fuck how much money you make or what your career is or if a chick is famous. Those things matter a lot to women when searching for a man though.
I disagree with you from a personal standpoint. I just got married to a gent who isn't loaded, famous or wealthy... his weird meshes perfectly with my weird and the amount he carries in his wallet, how much money he makes and his looks were Never factored in when I said "yes" when he asked me to marry him.
Maybe I'm in the small percent of women who could care less about such superficial things, but still... It's not something all women need - some of us simply require mental and emotional stimuli and don't care about all that other crap.
@acridtaf I'm a woman, but I agree w/this poster. I have come across shallow women and men. In dating guys played games w/me, some of my supposed best female friends stabbed me in the back or treated me like crap. Both sexes are equally as likely to be shallow.
@acridtaf Imagine if he was short. eg. 5'2 would you still say yes. If you are comparing a fat girl, she should be compared to the one trait men are most shunned for and unlike fat girls without medical issues, we can't control our height AND we are shunned in the job market as well. by the way, I am 5"2.
@shephardjhon 5'2" isn't short to me. If you had dwarfism, then you'd be considered short. I mean, you are shorter than I am (5'10"), but most guys I know ARE shorter than I am; which is why it doesn't bother ME.
Short men can not be compared to fat women because the two are not synonymous - but I see your point.
It's super annoying, actually - after all of these trends of pushing for acceptance: men are still drawing the short straw --- no pun intended.
When you are fat, it doesn't only affect your "looks". It also means that you are lazy, that you don't care about your own well-being and probably don't involve a lot of effort and dedication in most other things that you do.
Being overweight is never just about "looks". It tells a lot about your personality, and it doesn't say anything good.
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Disagree. When I were fat, I were successful in my career as I'm now. My overweight friends in college had good GPA and were very hardworking.
His point stands. I actually prefer cubby/curvy/thick/whatever... But an obese person, of any gender, screams loser. Sorry, but true. Being chubby, says I'm not about material, physical bullshit. Being obese says I'm not into doing shit.
Sexual attraction is the first thing someone notice in a person though and people date those who are like them. I would try giving it another go and see if you can form an emotional connection with a man first through friendship so you see that some of em are alright. But besides that yeah some people are awful but not all.
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My ex was obese and it took a while for me to see through that but yeah initially guys are shallow. To be honest, I was in the opposite boat where I totally wanted to disassociate from women as a sex because they didn't want me sexually unless I stuck a dildo up my @$$ and made moaning noises into a microphone (which was a phase I went through when my self love was very low).
It's sad that you don't associate with any men now. You are missing out. I'm proud that the men I know are not so shallow, and it's not like that kind of guy is scarce. I'm glad that you feel empowered from your weight loss. Maybe you will trust men again after you do your thing of being an acronym label for a while. It is great to be single sometimes.
Women do the exact same thing, if anything, worse. Women who are 4's or 5's can act like they're 10's just by posting a bikini selfie on instagram and no matter how ugly they are everyone will be like OMG SO BEAUTIFUL and they won't accept any guy who isn't 6'3 and rich, and ride the cock carousel throughoutt their 20s. once their eggs start drying up then they con you into marriage, complain that they're not happy, divorce you and take everything that a MAN has worked for because courts are fucking sexist.
I should remind you that there are bad people from every gender, every social class, every race, every nationality.
Don't oversimplify the reality, no matter how much easier it would be by restricting badness to a specific kind of people.
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I was fat too growing up, and similar stuff happened to me regarding women being attracted to me only after the weight was off. People are arseholes, and will try to go after you for anything they can. Weight used to be it for you, and it was for me as well. But you know what, I forgive them for that, and still love women to this day. Just because some of them were mean, doesn't change that I have many women in my life who love me for who I am.
It's up to you, but as someone who's been through similar things, I think you should give some men a chance. Start with some gay friends maybe, and then branch out. We aren't all terrible lol
I hate to disappoint you but WGTOW will never exist because you women are too chicken shit to punk out of society and make it on your own, seriously I know we MGTOWs are bruising a lot of people's egos nowadays but this does not mean you all have the right to imitate us so please stop it.
till then even if WGTOW does rise into existence its just gonna further proof that feminism was a total failure after all
As I say to MGTOW, you're generalizing 50% of the human race. This is immature, like how in grade school there were "Boy's Only Clubs" and "Girls Only Clubs". We should be past this. I'm fat, and I know it. I don't have a boyfriend, but I do have guy friends and girl friends. I'm not bitter about it. Cutting out half of the population sounds like cutting out many opportunities.
Although that is what you experienced, I think that is unfair to men to generalize your experience to all of us. Plenty of us are happy to help women trying to get into shape or date bigger women.
Men are selfish, but women encourage men to be selfish. Women expect men to always make the first move on them, so if a man isn't selfish in approaching a women for his own needs. How would a unselfish man ever get a date or relationship with a girl?
So you renamed Feminism but have the same old excuses. Not too creative.
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You're not a WGHOW; you're a feminist. Your story, or some variation of it, is exactly why many feminists become feminists. The rest just succumb to the anti-male rhetoric of the others. Congratulations.
Can I ask - only because I am curious. Were you confident around these males when you had the weight on or only after you've lost the weight? Were you more comfortable around the females than you were the males?
I just wonder if all your crushes on men were fat ugly ones or if you were shallow too? Also fat is physically manifestation of mental issues. Ie no self control men can literally see that you are an emotional eater and at that weight you must be very emotional.
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I respect your choice, however you are satanizing men way too much. Women are at the very least just as shallow as men. People generally are shallow and assholes. And this world sucks. You need to accept those facts. It may sound sad or depressing but its true, and you can run away from it
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So basically you don't like men. Okay, but MGTOW wasn't based off of "I don't like women." What you're doing is not a mirror to MGTOW, so the title is misleading.
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Trust me, women are just as shallow as dudes. Most women only want the top 10% of alpha males out there who have wealth, money or fame. Dudes have always been ready to downgrade their expectations and love an average chick for life. But the same is not true for women. Look up the word HYPERGAMY. This is strictly a female characteristic. Men don't give a fuck how much money you make or what your career is or if a chick is famous. Those things matter a lot to women when searching for a man though.
I disagree with you from a personal standpoint. I just got married to a gent who isn't loaded, famous or wealthy... his weird meshes perfectly with my weird and the amount he carries in his wallet, how much money he makes and his looks were Never factored in when I said "yes" when he asked me to marry him.
Maybe I'm in the small percent of women who could care less about such superficial things, but still... It's not something all women need - some of us simply require mental and emotional stimuli and don't care about all that other crap.
Just sayin'.
@acridtaf I'm a woman, but I agree w/this poster. I have come across shallow women and men. In dating guys played games w/me, some of my supposed best female friends stabbed me in the back or treated me like crap. Both sexes are equally as likely to be shallow.
@acridtaf Imagine if he was short. eg. 5'2 would you still say yes. If you are comparing a fat girl, she should be compared to the one trait men are most shunned for and unlike fat girls without medical issues, we can't control our height AND we are shunned in the job market as well. by the way, I am 5"2.
@shephardjhon 5'2" isn't short to me. If you had dwarfism, then you'd be considered short. I mean, you are shorter than I am (5'10"), but most guys I know ARE shorter than I am; which is why it doesn't bother ME.
Short men can not be compared to fat women because the two are not synonymous - but I see your point.
It's super annoying, actually - after all of these trends of pushing for acceptance: men are still drawing the short straw --- no pun intended.
When you are fat, it doesn't only affect your "looks".
It also means that you are lazy, that you don't care about your own well-being and probably don't involve a lot of effort and dedication in most other things that you do.
Being overweight is never just about "looks".
It tells a lot about your personality, and it doesn't say anything good.
Disagree. When I were fat, I were successful in my career as I'm now. My overweight friends in college had good GPA and were very hardworking.
His point stands. I actually prefer cubby/curvy/thick/whatever... But an obese person, of any gender, screams loser. Sorry, but true. Being chubby, says I'm not about material, physical bullshit. Being obese says I'm not into doing shit.
Sexual attraction is the first thing someone notice in a person though and people date those who are like them. I would try giving it another go and see if you can form an emotional connection with a man first through friendship so you see that some of em are alright. But besides that yeah some people are awful but not all.
My ex was obese and it took a while for me to see through that but yeah initially guys are shallow. To be honest, I was in the opposite boat where I totally wanted to disassociate from women as a sex because they didn't want me sexually unless I stuck a dildo up my @$$ and made moaning noises into a microphone (which was a phase I went through when my self love was very low).
It's sad that you don't associate with any men now. You are missing out. I'm proud that the men I know are not so shallow, and it's not like that kind of guy is scarce. I'm glad that you feel empowered from your weight loss. Maybe you will trust men again after you do your thing of being an acronym label for a while. It is great to be single sometimes.
Women do the exact same thing, if anything, worse.
Women who are 4's or 5's can act like they're 10's just by posting a bikini selfie on instagram and no matter how ugly they are everyone will be like OMG SO BEAUTIFUL and they won't accept any guy who isn't 6'3 and rich, and ride the cock carousel throughoutt their 20s. once their eggs start drying up then they con you into marriage, complain that they're not happy, divorce you and take everything that a MAN has worked for because courts are fucking sexist.
I should remind you that there are bad people from every gender, every social class, every race, every nationality.
Don't oversimplify the reality, no matter how much easier it would be by restricting badness to a specific kind of people.
I was fat too growing up, and similar stuff happened to me regarding women being attracted to me only after the weight was off. People are arseholes, and will try to go after you for anything they can. Weight used to be it for you, and it was for me as well. But you know what, I forgive them for that, and still love women to this day. Just because some of them were mean, doesn't change that I have many women in my life who love me for who I am.
It's up to you, but as someone who's been through similar things, I think you should give some men a chance. Start with some gay friends maybe, and then branch out. We aren't all terrible lol
I hate to disappoint you but WGTOW will never exist because you women are too chicken shit to punk out of society and make it on your own, seriously I know we MGTOWs are bruising a lot of people's egos nowadays but this does not mean you all have the right to imitate us so please stop it.
till then even if WGTOW does rise into existence its just gonna further proof that feminism was a total failure after all
OMG CAN I USE THIS AS A YOUTUBE COMMENT? PLZ?
@MelaninDoll not sure if you're either with it or against it but yea feel free to do so as I'm not the only mgtow who spouses these views
With it.
As I say to MGTOW, you're generalizing 50% of the human race. This is immature, like how in grade school there were "Boy's Only Clubs" and "Girls Only Clubs". We should be past this. I'm fat, and I know it. I don't have a boyfriend, but I do have guy friends and girl friends. I'm not bitter about it. Cutting out half of the population sounds like cutting out many opportunities.
Although that is what you experienced, I think that is unfair to men to generalize your experience to all of us. Plenty of us are happy to help women trying to get into shape or date bigger women.
Men are selfish, but women encourage men to be selfish. Women expect men to always make the first move on them, so if a man isn't selfish in approaching a women for his own needs. How would a unselfish man ever get a date or relationship with a girl?
Guys like it only if hot chicks approach them
Well is it any different for a girl when a guy she doesn't like approaches them?
So you renamed Feminism but have the same old excuses. Not too creative.
You're not a WGHOW; you're a feminist. Your story, or some variation of it, is exactly why many feminists become feminists. The rest just succumb to the anti-male rhetoric of the others. Congratulations.
Can I ask - only because I am curious. Were you confident around these males when you had the weight on or only after you've lost the weight? Were you more comfortable around the females than you were the males?
WGHOW is just women who can't get dick at all and if you can't get dick as a woman there must definitely be something wrong with you
I just wonder if all your crushes on men were fat ugly ones or if you were shallow too? Also fat is physically manifestation of mental issues. Ie no self control men can literally see that you are an emotional eater and at that weight you must be very emotional.
I respect your choice, however you are satanizing men way too much. Women are at the very least just as shallow as men. People generally are shallow and assholes. And this world sucks. You need to accept those facts. It may sound sad or depressing but its true, and you can run away from it
So basically you don't like men. Okay, but MGTOW wasn't based off of "I don't like women." What you're doing is not a mirror to MGTOW, so the title is misleading.
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