"It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls." Agree or Disagree?

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A quote i picked up from the Ancient Greek playwright Aristophanes.

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"It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls." Agree or Disagree?

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You could build a wall around a city back in the day, because flying vehicles didn't exist, cannons and bombs were rudimentary, and you could stockpile food inside of the city. It was also small enough to defend the exterior on the most vulnerable sides.

None of this applies to modern times or to wide borders such as a country border... walls can only deter basic bitches from crossing, it's not going to stop someone who is determined especially if it's so long that it can't be heavily armed the whole way.

But anyway if we interpret the quote abstractly and/or metaphorically... then I disagree, it's more like the opposite. You build high walls when you realize you need to vet your friends better.

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jacquesvol Follow
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Aristophanes lived during the Peloponnesian War (431–404 BC). It was an ancient Greek war fought by Athens and its empire against the Peloponnesian League led by Sparta.
Normal to have such ideas then.
On the other side, Aristophanes wrote 'Lysistrata' (about a conspiracy by women to deny all sex until the men stopped waging wars.)

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Piffanni Follow
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The need to build high walls, is to protect, to sheild. We do it in our daily lives. Sheilding ourselves from pain and hurt. But that pain can come from outside as well as inside of us. The wall might be built there to protect one from the foe outside of the wall. But the wall might also be built as a projection of ones own fear, fear of the unknown. And only way to feel safe is to build a wall, because you don't have to think about what's outside of that wall. Sorry if it's messy :) Hope you understood anyways.

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MuffinHead Follow
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Juan can agree, that no matter how high Trump builds a wall, it's no match for Ángel climbing skills. Cause' no way Ángel, he will not make it across.

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Chrysis Follow
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Walls against friends are useless. You're trapping them with you in there. :')
Therefore, I agree.

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OPBinYYC Follow
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whoa, deep thought (head hurts... arghh), wait no it doesn't it's to keep the crazy people inside and the crazier people out... only so much pizza a beer for us in here, you outside get your own dammit! cheers mgtow

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- OPBinYYC
  
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  Wait I forgot, they built them so we could have questions like this centuries later. Yay, do I get a prize or sumthin? lmfao, cheers... mgtow
  
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MackLoan Follow
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Depends if you're taking it as old thing and real walls or new things and virtual wall. I have created a virtual wall so I can be safe from my friends.

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NearlyNapping Follow
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Somebody has been playing Civ.

And yea, it's somewhat true. Either their own foes, or someone else's foes.

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Phoenix98 Follow
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Agree.

After all the dozens of ancient and modern walls created in the world were created to keep out the enemy. No one ever made a wall to keep out friends.

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ThisDudeHere Follow
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Makes complete sense. Keep your friends close. But keep your enemies behind a big wall.

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_moo_ Follow
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Aristophanes was fantastic, though I hope this doesn't come out of wanting to turn desperate refugees away!

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meatballs21 Follow
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Big Walls are invariably to keep stuff out, not in. With a few exceptions...

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Guevara00239 Follow
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we are going to build a wall. it is going to be a beautiful wall! it is going to be a fabulous wall! and we are going to make the Mexicans pay for it!

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- Intraluminal
  
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  ^^^^^TRUMP SAID IT. IT MUST BE SO!^^^^^^
  
  https://youtu.be/mJZZNHekEQw
  
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RegularTK421 Follow
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I think they quote that in civilization 4 if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I agree with it.

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Blitzkrieger Follow
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A world of established territories is a stable world. If it takes walls to achieve stability so be it. Mass migration isn't exactly stable is it?

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IAmBlueThunder Follow
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I think we need to BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! TRUMP 2017!

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- Intraluminal
  
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  ^^^^^^^^°THE MEXICANS WILL PAY FOR IT^^^^^^^^
  
  LOL!
  
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- IAmBlueThunder
  
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  👌WRONG!👌 CORRUPT HILLARY AND LITTLE MARCO WILL PAY FOR IT.
  
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jakeofalltrades Follow
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agreed, most of humans technology was originally designed for war and modified for different areas

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Iraqveteran666 Follow
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People don't build walls if they don't need them.

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- Toad-1
  
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  But then why would they need them?
  
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- Iraqveteran666
  
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  To keep people out. A great example is the giant wall Mexico has or all the walls Israel has. Israel has a huge boarder fence on its boarder with Egypt which is rarely breached.
  
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- qdoek
  
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  Yep. There used to be 10 thousand illegal crossings a year, now it is down to a couple dozen. The wall in the Westbank, although very controversial and hated by many, decreased terrorism inside Israel by 99%. In Israel's case, they keep the baddies out
  
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- Iraqveteran666
  
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  @qdoek just look at China's great wall it was omly defeated when some genius let the Mongols in.
  
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Izumiblu Follow
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Aristophanes, the original captain obvious.

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vishna Follow
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Yea, I'd agree with that.

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mooky06 Follow
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Makes perfect sense! 👍🏽

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COCOCHANEL Follow
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what lesson?

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- Toad-1
  
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  that in order to protect your city a wall may be necessary
  
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CubsterShura Follow
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Obviously I agree.

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Alistayr Follow
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Mexico take note.

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mT2359 Follow
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nice and deep

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