And that is how everyone feels. it's a fun idea why should my great great grandchildren suffer because you "want"? The idea of freedom of choice. And like many other problems, it won't be addressed until it starts to have a BIG impact.
One could argue that overpopulation is not our problem. Our problem is that Humans are the first and only Apex Super Predator in the Earth's geological history. Add to this that we are at the dawn of a new age, The Anthropocene. So not only are Humans the 'top dog', but we have within our grasp the ability to create the 7th ELE (extinction level event - think the meteor that killed all the dinosaurs!)
Yup I live in Canada where we have a lot of space and not very many people and we have so much more natural environment than the rest of the world, Iāve been to other countries and there are too many people, it feels dirty and smelly, fuck I just fuckin hate people tbh
@A-man-22 No one is suggesting we have such an arrangement. Donāt be silly. The point is that the land mass of the earth is still substantially larger than the population
I know it was just a metaphor but we don't just have to account for human living space.
Some places can't be lived on. Some places have fragile ecosystems. Building more houses requires many more materials.
Even if you don't agree with these the human population will eventually get to a point where mass starvation is the only thing preventing us from expanding and I don't want it to get that bad.
@A-man-22 Weāre on the verge of being able to grow meat in labs. As it stands we throw out 40% of the food we produce. Thereās a LOT of wiggle room there.
@A-man-22 If your choice is meat grown in labs or starving, you're eating the meat grown in labs. The point is that we've got the ability to create technologies that will be able to feed humanity for a long time, we're not overpopulated.
Not globally, no. The estimates are that the Earth is big enough to comfortably hold about 20 billion people. The problem is that people are crammed into tiny cities and the fact that governments and corporations create economies where food is wasted, resources are wasted and people don't have enough money. even if they work 60 hours a week.
Yes, there are only so many resources on the planet. And they only renew so quickly. Eventually the population will reach a point in which human expansion will require more resources (space, oxygen, clean water, wood, metals, natural gasses) than the earth can feasibly support. And at that point either the population will die back and the earth will recover, or well do enough damage that the earth canāt recover and well all die.
If we lived like animals and lived life how we originally were supposed to weād be able to keep are planet because itād be free to be a natural normal planet not the one we have now fighting for itās own existence thanks to us.
We actually have a lot more resources on earth to support way more population but we are so inefficient with our resources and practically throwing it away that we already having āover populationā problems.
It is. At a certain moment there wonāt be enough food for everyone. And who will die from that first? The poor. Do they have less of a right to live than rich people? No. But thatās how the world works nowadays.
Yes, of course this is a problem. We will A. Have to little food (some people already don't have food) B. To little space for homes and places for people to live C. Have more people consuming products leading to more global warming.
The list could be longer but I think those are the strongest bits.
Thats a broad question... im assuming you mean is overpopulation of the planet a problem. The answer is probably not yet but i beleive it is about to be looming in the horizon. Computer simulations done by yhe U. N. show the demand for food will surpass the supply the planet can produce around 2028.
I read that (the planet) can support 15 billion people living like jungle natives, 12 billion people living like American Indians, and 2 billion people (approx) living like North Americans...
now as for can we "financially" (as in jobs or taxes) support the number... don't know.
No. I have some math, but I won't bore you. If someone has no child, that's minus 2 of the population. If someone has 1 child, that's minus 1. 2 children, none. Now, if you have three children, you will have plus 1 population. And honestly, unfortunately most likely we would run out of population instead.
in some areas of the world yes cuz then where do you put all these people there's no homes or food for that's why. some countries have limits on having kids which is mean but they did it do to over population
Nope. There is actually too much food (go check FAO reports) & empty spaces available (technologically speaking). The real problem is most people only want to live in big cities & big cities only. It's a rabbit hole topic.
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Even if it is, it won't stop me from having 2-4 kids
I am impressed.
@prasanp thanks i think haha
yeah, I felt kind of relief since I am seeing only how I don't want kids only stuff nowadays.
And that is how everyone feels. it's a fun idea why should my great great grandchildren suffer because you "want"? The idea of freedom of choice. And like many other problems, it won't be addressed until it starts to have a BIG impact.
@WolfsRoze what do you want?
War. š
@WolfsRoze ok I want a lot of kids from my wife
@prasanp same
One could argue that overpopulation is not our problem. Our problem is that Humans are the first and only Apex Super Predator in the Earth's geological history. Add to this that we are at the dawn of a new age, The Anthropocene. So not only are Humans the 'top dog', but we have within our grasp the ability to create the 7th ELE (extinction level event - think the meteor that killed all the dinosaurs!)
I would argue that this is a MUCH bigger issue than overpopulation!
Yup I live in Canada where we have a lot of space and not very many people and we have so much more natural environment than the rest of the world, Iāve been to other countries and there are too many people, it feels dirty and smelly, fuck I just fuckin hate people tbh
Not really. There's enough room to put the entire world's population in Texas.
Texas is huge
That may be for human housing but what about farms, factories , nature reserves etc.
Farms take up a lot more space than housing.
We need to keep a balance between living space and natural space as well.
@A-man-22 No one is suggesting we have such an arrangement. Donāt be silly. The point is that the land mass of the earth is still substantially larger than the population
I know it was just a metaphor but we don't just have to account for human living space.
Some places can't be lived on.
Some places have fragile ecosystems.
Building more houses requires many more materials.
Even if you don't agree with these the human population will eventually get to a point where mass starvation is the only thing preventing us from expanding and I don't want it to get that bad.
@A-man-22 Weāre on the verge of being able to grow meat in labs. As it stands we throw out 40% of the food we produce. Thereās a LOT of wiggle room there.
Meat labs have ethical issues as well as many who would prefer traditionally farmed goods.
Wood and other natural resources still are limited and you can't use science to change that.
@A-man-22 If your choice is meat grown in labs or starving, you're eating the meat grown in labs. The point is that we've got the ability to create technologies that will be able to feed humanity for a long time, we're not overpopulated.
Absolutely not. I'm pretty sure God understands math and measurements then all humans combined.
He made the earth big enough to accommodate billions of humans with plenty of space and food, and water to go around.
In fact, believe it or not, all of earth's population can fit in just the city of Jacksonville FL. alone. It will be super crowded but they can fit.
Not globally, no. The estimates are that the Earth is big enough to comfortably hold about 20 billion people. The problem is that people are crammed into tiny cities and the fact that governments and corporations create economies where food is wasted, resources are wasted and people don't have enough money. even if they work 60 hours a week.
Yes, there are only so many resources on the planet. And they only renew so quickly. Eventually the population will reach a point in which human expansion will require more resources (space, oxygen, clean water, wood, metals, natural gasses) than the earth can feasibly support. And at that point either the population will die back and the earth will recover, or well do enough damage that the earth canāt recover and well all die.
If we lived like animals and lived life how we originally were supposed to weād be able to keep are planet because itād be free to be a natural normal planet not the one we have now fighting for itās own existence thanks to us.
Yes because if the population keeps growing we're going to run out of resources and climate change/global warming could get worse
We actually have a lot more resources on earth to support way more population but we are so inefficient with our resources and practically throwing it away that we already having āover populationā problems.
It is. At a certain moment there wonāt be enough food for everyone. And who will die from that first? The poor. Do they have less of a right to live than rich people? No. But thatās how the world works nowadays.
Yes, of course this is a problem. We will
A. Have to little food (some people already don't have food)
B. To little space for homes and places for people to live
C. Have more people consuming products leading to more global warming.
The list could be longer but I think those are the strongest bits.
Thats a broad question... im assuming you mean is overpopulation of the planet a problem. The answer is probably not yet but i beleive it is about to be looming in the horizon. Computer simulations done by yhe U. N. show the demand for food will surpass the supply the planet can produce around 2028.
Ever been stuck in traffic on a hot summer day?
My answer is yes.
I read that (the planet) can support 15 billion people living like jungle natives, 12 billion people living like American Indians, and 2 billion people (approx) living like North Americans...
now as for can we "financially" (as in jobs or taxes) support the number... don't know.
Well... I've heard that more people die than are born on any given day...
That is interesting
Then how do we go from 7 bill. To 8 bill?
@WolfsRoze we probably won't. The birthrate is decreasing by a lot
Well, it's a Rumor, anyway. Perhaps a Theory?
Really that's interesting I'd have to do some research.
No. I have some math, but I won't bore you. If someone has no child, that's minus 2 of the population. If someone has 1 child, that's minus 1. 2 children, none. Now, if you have three children, you will have plus 1 population. And honestly, unfortunately most likely we would run out of population instead.
So Ma an' Pa' Kettle Math?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfq5kju627c
in some areas of the world yes cuz then where do you put all these people there's no homes or food for that's why. some countries have limits on having kids which is mean but they did it do to over population
Nope. There is actually too much food (go check FAO reports) & empty spaces available (technologically speaking). The real problem is most people only want to live in big cities & big cities only. It's a rabbit hole topic.
Personally, it's a problem for me. I don't like crowds.